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"Bible John" |
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01 Jun 2005 09:02:37 PM |
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Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down. It may be a server problem, but it also seems
down when I connect with other isp's. Maybe its a glitch, or maybe you
were involved, as you said my websites would be down soon. Perhaps you
sniffed my unsecure telnet connections.
Unix techies, is it possible for one to shut down my webserver from the
public, yet allow me (at this time) to FTP and ssh in?
OSX users, should I be using ssh instead of telnet for security? I
believe we have a firewall here, or does it not matter? If so, how can
I successfuly use SSH from the unix shell, instead of having to launch a
separate 68K ssh app? Telnet works from the shell, but ssh does not for
some reason. I'd rather use the built in shell, over a slower classic
ssh app.
Thanks..
John
From: Bible Bob <biblebobnos...@biblebob.net>
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:35:34 -0700, Bible John
<john.dogg...@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <1117236768.733288.181...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"rogue" <rogue...@hotmail.com> wrote:
But, you still haven't answered the rest of my post: that basically
you are just offering your own opinion which has no real support for
it, it's just your different interpretation of the same text.
I wrote a paper on the diety of Christ which may answer some of your
questions on my website.
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John
Dear Satanrules9666 aka Bible John who is really John Wolf and not
John Doggett.
Be man enough to answer what I wrote in a public forum. Besides, your
web sites will be down soon.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Bruce Barnett" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 07:38:42 AM |
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Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> writes:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down. It may be a server problem, but it also seems
down when I connect with other isp's. Maybe its a glitch, or maybe you
were involved, as you said my websites would be down soon. Perhaps you
sniffed my unsecure telnet connections.
Try to ping the system. This will tell you if it's up.
If not, try "traceroute" to see if the routes to your server are up.
If you can't traceroute, then it's not a server problem.
If ping works, try to telnet to port 80 - the web server.
If you are connected, the web server is on.
Unix techies, is it possible for one to shut down my webserver from the
public, yet allow me (at this time) to FTP and ssh in?
I don't understand your question, but probably yes. One can set up
firewall rules to block everything except for SSH traffic from one
address - yours. But that's not a shell question.
OSX users, should I be using ssh instead of telnet for security?
In general, yes. Sniffers are not easy to use against others, unless
you compromise a system used by the other person.
I
believe we have a firewall here, or does it not matter?
All systems should be defended in depth. That's usually a
network-based firewall (external), AND a host-based firewall (on your
machine). I don't know about OSX, but on Linux, you can use
iptables/ipchains.
If so, how can
I successfuly use SSH from the unix shell, instead of having to launch a
separate 68K ssh app?
you use the command "ssh" - if it's not on your machine, find a copy
of openssh and install it. It's open source, so it runs nearly everywhere.
Telnet works from the shell, but ssh does not for
some reason. I'd rather use the built in shell, over a slower classic
ssh app.
I don't know what this means. I'm not an OSX person. ssh is an
external app, and not built into the shell. If you mean native versus
68k emulation mode, that's different. There should be no reason why
you can't find a native version of (open)ssh.
Thanks..
John
From: Bible Bob <biblebobnos...@biblebob.net>
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[snip]
Please don't top-post. Edit your posts to trim unnecessary stuff.
That's the polite thing to do. Also - I don't think your questions
have much to do with shell programming, which is where I saw your
posting.
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| User: "Bible John" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 08:29:18 AM |
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In article <d7muki$3s1$2$208.20.133.66@netheaven.com>,
Bruce Barnett <spamhater113+U050602082349@grymoire.com> wrote:
Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> writes:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down. It may be a server problem, but it also seems
down when I connect with other isp's. Maybe its a glitch, or maybe you
were involved, as you said my websites would be down soon. Perhaps you
sniffed my unsecure telnet connections.
Try to ping the system. This will tell you if it's up.
If not, try "traceroute" to see if the routes to your server are up.
If you can't traceroute, then it's not a server problem.
Thank you Bruce. MacOSX should have this stuff built in this time
(unlike the pre OSX systems). I should learn more about network
troubleshooting. I have an IT degree, but I enrolled before the
Internet was widespread, so networking, and internet network
troubleshooting was not required of me at that time. A indepth
knowledge of DOS and MS office was, but DOS is dead today, and most IT
people I know, do not have an indepth knowledge of Office. Times have
changed. However I could buy a 200LX and get DOS up and running again,
or PocketDOS on my Jornada 720 and get back to 6.22. But thats another
story. I am saving your email, so in the future I need help.
If ping works, try to telnet to port 80 - the web server.
If you are connected, the web server is on.
Unix techies, is it possible for one to shut down my webserver from the
public, yet allow me (at this time) to FTP and ssh in?
I don't understand your question, but probably yes. One can set up
firewall rules to block everything except for SSH traffic from one
address - yours. But that's not a shell question.
OSX users, should I be using ssh instead of telnet for security?
In general, yes. Sniffers are not easy to use against others, unless
you compromise a system used by the other person.
I figured out how to use ssh from the OSX command shell, and I paid for
a ssh client for my Jornada 720. I wont pay for one on my Windows 98
laptop, since I rarely ever use it to shell. But a general rule of
thumb should be to avoid Telnet at all costs.
I
believe we have a firewall here, or does it not matter?
All systems should be defended in depth. That's usually a
network-based firewall (external), AND a host-based firewall (on your
machine). I don't know about OSX, but on Linux, you can use
iptables/ipchains.
OSX as a built in firewall tab. Its really a much nicer Os, over the
pre X systems. Unfortunately I will need to repurchase some hardware
and software that did not transition over from OS 9.
If so, how can
I successfuly use SSH from the unix shell, instead of having to launch a
separate 68K ssh app?
you use the command "ssh" - if it's not on your machine, find a copy
of openssh and install it. It's open source, so it runs nearly everywhere.
Telnet works from the shell, but ssh does not for
some reason. I'd rather use the built in shell, over a slower classic
ssh app.
I don't know what this means. I'm not an OSX person. ssh is an
external app, and not built into the shell. If you mean native versus
68k emulation mode, that's different. There should be no reason why
you can't find a native version of (open)ssh.
Classic apps are apps written for the pre Unix based OS X mac os.
Whatever kernel apple was using before OSX is what is called a classic
app. I did figure out how to use the built in ssh client. Its nice
that osx has all this built in. Something that could not be said of
earlier systems.
Thanks..
John
John
From: Bible Bob <biblebobnos...@biblebob.net>
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Please don't top-post. Edit your posts to trim unnecessary stuff.
That's the polite thing to do. Also - I don't think your questions
have much to do with shell programming, which is where I saw your
posting.
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| User: "Solbu" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 09:47:38 AM |
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Bible John tried to express the following opinion:
I paid for
a ssh client for my Jornada 720. I wont pay for one on my Windows 98
laptop, since I rarely ever use it to shell.
You don't have to pay.
There is a freeware application available called PuTTY
http://www.putty.nl/
Also you can install Cygwin to get a UNIX like enviroment on Windows.
Cygwin have most of the applications that a normal *NIX system have.
Including OpenSSH.
http://www.cygwin.com/
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| User: "Bruce Barnett" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 04:58:20 PM |
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Bible John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> writes:
Thank you Bruce. MacOSX should have this stuff built in this time
(unlike the pre OSX systems).
ping and traceroute are open source. Either compile it, get a binary
version, or find a server on the Internet that can do it for you.
I figured out how to use ssh from the OSX command shell, and I paid for
a ssh client for my Jornada 720. I wont pay for one on my Windows 98
laptop, since I rarely ever use it to shell. But a general rule of
thumb should be to avoid Telnet at all costs.
A free ssh clinet for windows is PUTTY. That's what I use.
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| User: "Just Mark" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 03:27:40 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down.
Bible Bob!!! You wicked, wicked monkey!
And if it wasn't you, then who? Could it be....SATAN???
My money's on Xenu. Or Bigfoot.
JM
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| User: "Grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 11:12:21 PM |
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Just Mark wrote:
Bible John wrote:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down.
Bible Bob!!! You wicked, wicked monkey!
And if it wasn't you, then who? Could it be....SATAN???
My money's on Xenu. Or Bigfoot.
I've always been suspicious of that little guy on the Lucky Charms box.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
02 Jun 2005 11:02:20 PM |
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On 2 Jun 2005 13:27:40 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bible John wrote:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down.
Bible Bob!!! You wicked, wicked monkey!
And if it wasn't you, then who? Could it be....SATAN???
My money's on Xenu. Or Bigfoot.
JM
JM,
Wasn't me. I don't know anything about UNIX.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Did you hack into my UNIX server Bible Bob? |
01 Jun 2005 09:45:38 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:02:37 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
Not saying that you did, but you said my website would be down soon, and
today it has been down. It may be a server problem, but it also seems
down when I connect with other isp's. Maybe its a glitch, or maybe you
were involved, as you said my websites would be down soon. Perhaps you
sniffed my unsecure telnet connections.
Unix techies, is it possible for one to shut down my webserver from the
public, yet allow me (at this time) to FTP and ssh in?
OSX users, should I be using ssh instead of telnet for security? I
believe we have a firewall here, or does it not matter? If so, how can
I successfuly use SSH from the unix shell, instead of having to launch a
separate 68K ssh app? Telnet works from the shell, but ssh does not for
some reason. I'd rather use the built in shell, over a slower classic
ssh app.
Thanks..
John
John,
Yes, I did warn you that your web sites would be down soon.
No, I did not do anything to your server.
I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from you.
From: Bible Bob <biblebobnos...@biblebob.net>
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 20:35:34 -0700, Bible John
<john.dogg...@x-files.gov> wrote:
In article <1117236768.733288.181...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"rogue" <rogue...@hotmail.com> wrote:
But, you still haven't answered the rest of my post: that basically
you are just offering your own opinion which has no real support for
it, it's just your different interpretation of the same text.
I wrote a paper on the diety of Christ which may answer some of your
questions on my website.
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John
Dear Satanrules9666 aka Bible John who is really John Wolf and not
John Doggett.
Be man enough to answer what I wrote in a public forum. Besides, your
web sites will be down soon.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
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