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"Echo2Drs" |
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12 Sep 2004 08:33:44 PM |
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Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
THERE SEEMS TO BE MANY DISAGREEMENTS ON EVOLUTION AND THE BIBLE! I HOPE I CAN
HELP CLEAR UP SOME OF THE DISAGREEMENTS ON THIS!
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt
eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto
the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust
shalt thou return.
Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of
all living.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins,
and clothed them.
In the following verses after the fall of Adam and Eve; God makes coats of
SKINS and clothed them.
There is a deeper meaning here if you will understand it! The SKINS mentioned
here is the animal body (ape), because animals have skins, but the soul does
not!
.. Adam and Eve (like ourself) became trapped into an animal body because of
sin.
So now, Adam will have to eat his bread with the sweat of his brow!
Meaning, because of their sins, God will no longer supply all their needs!
So... Adam, (like ourselves) will have to work for it and learn his lessons the
hard way!!
What am I talking about??? An animal has to have food, water, shelter, etc. And
we have to go to a stinkin job everyday to pay for it!!!
Eve, will have to bare children in pain (just like we do ladies). Meaning we
conceive children in the same manner as animals; and we bare children in the
same manner as animals!
Our Real Body and Our Physical Body
(An Explanation of Both)
Basically you have two bodies and walk in two different planes, (dimensions).
The physical or material (matter, flesh, animal) is not your real body. It is
the body you see everyday when you look in a mirror or catch a glimpse of in a
store window. The material body is an animal body. And just like the animals
and plants, requires elements from the earth to sustain itself, because it is
of organic material. For example: food, water, shelter, air, sleep and Sunlight
Etc. If one of these elements is taken away or denied, or if diseases invade
the physical body, or the case of murder or suicide, the animal body [flesh]
will die. As plants and other animals do from some of these circumstances.
You have a spiritual body [soul]. It is your REAL body. You cannot see it,
because it is in another dimension, but it is definitely there.
It is the thinking process, reasoning, intelligence, common sense, intuition,
(sixth sense) emotions, personality, sense of humor, ego and pride, [you, me].
It requires love, laughter, experience of life, companionship with others and
companionship with God.
It never dies even if these elements are taken away, or denied. It never
experiences diseases or death. It is immortal, as God Himself is immortal. It
cannot be murdered. The spiritual body is a portion of God, and you cannot
destroy God, or a portion of God. (You and me are that portion).
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| User: "Gnos Theos" |
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| Title: Re: Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
13 Sep 2004 04:23:24 AM |
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(Echo2Drs) wrote in message news:<20040912213344.09094.00000605@mb-m21.wmconnect.com>...
THERE SEEMS TO BE MANY DISAGREEMENTS ON EVOLUTION AND THE BIBLE! I HOPE I CAN
HELP CLEAR UP SOME OF THE DISAGREEMENTS ON THIS!
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt
eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto
the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust
shalt thou return.
Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of
all living.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins,
and clothed them.
In the following verses after the fall of Adam and Eve; God makes coats of
SKINS and clothed them.
There is a deeper meaning here if you will understand it! The SKINS mentioned
here is the animal body (ape), because animals have skins, but the soul does
not!
. Adam and Eve (like ourself) became trapped into an animal body because of
sin.
So now, Adam will have to eat his bread with the sweat of his brow!
Meaning, because of their sins, God will no longer supply all their needs!
So... Adam, (like ourselves) will have to work for it and learn his lessons the
hard way!!
What am I talking about??? An animal has to have food, water, shelter, etc. And
we have to go to a stinkin job everyday to pay for it!!!
Eve, will have to bare children in pain (just like we do ladies). Meaning we
conceive children in the same manner as animals; and we bare children in the
same manner as animals!
Our Real Body and Our Physical Body
(An Explanation of Both)
Basically you have two bodies and walk in two different planes, (dimensions).
The physical or material (matter, flesh, animal) is not your real body. It is
the body you see everyday when you look in a mirror or catch a glimpse of in a
store window. The material body is an animal body. And just like the animals
and plants, requires elements from the earth to sustain itself, because it is
of organic material. For example: food, water, shelter, air, sleep and Sunlight
Etc. If one of these elements is taken away or denied, or if diseases invade
the physical body, or the case of murder or suicide, the animal body [flesh]
will die. As plants and other animals do from some of these circumstances.
I think you are reading too much into these passages. Adam and Eve needed
to eat the fruit of the garden before the fall. They had physical needs
before the fall. I think you are mixing evolution, atheistic psychology,
and the Bible. It is not a good mix.
You have a spiritual body [soul]. It is your REAL body. You cannot see it,
because it is in another dimension, but it is definitely there.
It is the thinking process, reasoning, intelligence, common sense, intuition,
(sixth sense) emotions, personality, sense of humor, ego and pride, [you, me].
It requires love, laughter, experience of life, companionship with others and
companionship with God.
It never dies even if these elements are taken away, or denied. It never
experiences diseases or death. It is immortal, as God Himself is immortal. It
cannot be murdered. The spiritual body is a portion of God, and you cannot
destroy God, or a portion of God. (You and me are that portion).
Hmm. I am a portion of God? I am not too sure about that. God
created a spirit within me, but that is not the same as me being a
part of God. God did not break off a chunk of Himself to create
me. That is not what it says.
http://www.gnostheos.org/nephesh.html
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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| Title: Re: Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
13 Sep 2004 11:59:05 PM |
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I think you are reading too much into these passages. Adam and Eve needed
to eat the fruit of the garden before the fall. They had physical needs
before the fall. I think you are mixing evolution, atheistic psychology,
and the Bible. It is not a good mix.
Their fall came when they began living too freely in the flesh. They were
suppose to set examples and a codes of ethics for the rest of the souls.
However, they (Adam (Amilius) and Eve (Lillith) began to separate themselves
from God).
Hmm. I am a portion of God? I am not too sure about that. God
created a spirit within me, but that is not the same as me being a
part of God.
God is NOT flesh, God is Spirit, the portion of you that is created from God's
own being is the soul/spirit, NOT the flesh. Oviously we have a FLESH body
that is not a part of God. Flesh was created from clay/dirt!
God is not clay/dirt!
The soul is the real body. You can't see it, but you can get a glimpse of it by
the sparkle or light of the eye! Look at another persons eyes, when you see the
light or sparkle you see the soul.
The spirit is the intellect of the soul...THE MIND, or thought process! Sit
there and think a thought in your mind...THATS IT!
When you "kick the bucket" the flesh (what you see) goes back to dirt...plainly
put....it rots and disentegrates back to dirt/clay....
The soul steps out of the dirt/clay!
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
12 Sep 2004 09:36:06 PM |
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On 13 Sep 2004 01:33:44 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
I HOPE I CAN
HELP CLEAR UP SOME OF THE DISAGREEMENTS ON THIS!
Only if you can show us some evidence for this metaphysical fantasy
you're attempting to peddle.
## Recipio ***** grano salis
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| User: "Echo2Drs" |
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| Title: Re: Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
14 Sep 2004 12:00:15 AM |
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Only if you can show us some evidence for this metaphysical fantasy
you're attempting to peddle.
## Recipio ***** grano salis
Wouldn't you be more happy in the athiest group?
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Disagreements on Evolution and the Bible! |
14 Sep 2004 07:01:42 AM |
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On 14 Sep 2004 05:00:15 GMT, (Echo2Drs) wrote:
Only if you can show us some evidence for this metaphysical fantasy
you're attempting to peddle.
## Recipio ***** grano salis
Wouldn't you be more happy in the athiest group?
Not everyone who is interested in the Bible agrees with it.
And even those who do accept the Bible don't necessarily
agree with you...
## Where all think alike, no one thinks very much!
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