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"Pastor Dave" |
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28 Dec 2007 06:08:57 PM |
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Dispensational Kook Factor |
The Dispensational Kook Factor, By Gary DeMar
Some dispensationalists are dangerous. When Jews were
being exterminated under Adolf Hitler’s anti-Jewish policy,
a number of prominent dispensational writers believed that
prophecy had set the course of inevitability for the Jews.
According to dispensationalism, two-thirds of the Jews will
be killed during a future “great tribulation” (Zech. 13:8).
This led some to advocate a “hands off” approach when
millions of Jews were being taken to concentration camps
and marched into gas ovens. Bible prophecy had made
it so (Bruce Lindsey).
A new dangerous kook book has been published:
Eye to Eye: Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel.
The advertisement for this book states that the author
“provides undeniable facts and conclusive evidence
showing that indeed the leaders of the United States
and the world are on a collision course with God over
Israel’s covenant land”. The author’s argument is that
the recent spate of “major catastrophes transpired on the
very same day or within 24-hours of U.S. presidents Bush,
Clinton and Bush applying pressure on Israel to trade her
land for promises of ‘peace and security’, sponsoring major
‘land for peace’ meetings, making major public statements
pertaining to Israel's covenant land and/or calling for a
Palestinian state”.
If God is so concerned about Israel and her land, then why
didn’t He send an earthquake to swallow up the Palestinians
who were given the land by Ariel Sharon, a Jew? Why send
a hurricane to punish New Orleans when the real culprits
are those who are calling for Israel’s extermination?
Why punish the United States when we have been Israel’s
greatest defender? What nation protected Israel during
the first Gulf War and continues to send billions of dollars
in aid?
The advertisement for the book claims that the several
catastrophic disasters that have hit the United States are
a fulfillment of Zechariah 12:9: “And it shall come to
pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the
nations that come against Jerusalem.”. It seems to me
that the nations coming against Israel are not being
destroyed. Notice that Zechariah 12 uses the phrase
“all the nations”. For a dispensationalist, this must mean
every nation in the world today. So why punish just the
United States? As I point out in my book Zechariah 12
and the “Esther Connection”, Zechariah 12 is a description
of events that happen soon after the prophecy was given.
The events described in Esther are a perfect fit to what
Zechariah 12 predicts. “All the nations” were those
under the domain of the Persian empire throughout its
“127 provinces” from “India to Ethiopia” (Esther 1:1) that
Haman had called on “to destroy all the Jews, the people
of Mordecai, who were throughout the whole kingdom of
Ahasuerus” (3:6). “All nations” is used this way throughout
the Bible (e.g., Dan. 4:1; 1 Chron. 14:17; 2 Chron. 32:23;
Jer. 28:11; Ps. 118:10; Acts 2:5).
The author of Eye to Eye is selective in the disasters
he picks. How do the following fit his scenario?
1. Galveston (Texas) Hurricane, 1900, estimated 8,000 deaths
2. Great Okeechobee Hurricane in Florida, 1928,
estimated 2,500-plus
3. Johnstown, Pa., Flood, 1889, estimated 2,200-plus
4. Louisiana Hurricane, 1893, 2,000-plus
5. South Carolina-Georgia Hurricane, 1893, 1,000–2,000
6. Great New England Hurricane, 1938, 720
7. San Francisco Earthquake, 1906, 700
8. Georgia-South Carolina Hurricane, 1881, 700
9. Tri-State Tornado in Missouri, Illinois and Indiana,
1925, 695
10. Labor Day Hurricane that hit the Florida Keys, 1935, 405
Then there’s World War I and World War II, Pearl Harbor,
the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. What is their
prophetic significance? The nation of Israel has no
prophetic significance today.
--
Exchange between Marge and Geoffrey the butler
on "Fresh Prince" (both African American):
Marge: "My brother, you have been oppressed,
repressed and suppressed. Don't you know
you can be free?"
Geoffrey: "I have known freedom. I don't like
the health plan."
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: Dispensational Kook Factor |
29 Dec 2007 05:22:10 AM |
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"Pastor Knave" < SATAN_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g04bn3lqbkid6mlt48jbdffd4c2ved7rrn@4ax.com...
The Dispensational Kook Factor, By Gary DeMar
Another book that isn't in my Bible, Satan.
The Three Dispensations
One of the points the Lord was making on the road to Emmaus as recorded in
the book of Hebrews is that salvation through faith was nothing new, for
salvation was through faith before the law was given: "By faith Noah, being
warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to
the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became
heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb. 11:7). However, under the
law salvation was through faith and doing the law, as Paul later wrote: "For
I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do
the whole law" (Gal. 5:3), Just as Noah and others before the law was given
were under a different dispensation than the circumcision, so are believers
in Christ under a different dispensation..
There are three dispensations in scripture as man is redeemed from the fall
of Adam. When Adam fell, he was no longer a servant of the Lord's house. He
had become a servant of Satan's house, the house of which all the
descendents of Adam are born: "he that believes not is condemned already"
(John 3:18). This is the condition resulting from Adam's original sin. As
servants of another, men were not called by the Lord. However, "the heavens
declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handywork" (Ps. 19:1),
and the Lord did find the runaway servants who sought Him: "then began men
to call upon the name of the Lord" (Gen. 4:26). Salvation was by faith, as
we are shown in Hebrews, but not free from the condemnation of sin,
"Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses (even over them that had not
sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression) who is the figure of
him that was to come" (Rom 5:14), and under this first dispensation
condemnation was immediate with death, the condemned under the first
dispensation are the people of old time in this verse: "When I shall bring
thee down with them that descend into the pit, with the people of old time,
and shall set thee in the low parts of the earth, in places desolate of old,
with them that go down to the pit, that thou be not inhabited; and I shall
set glory in the land of the living" (Ezek. 26:20). Satan made his claim for
the body of Moses (Jude 1:9) because Moses had killed the Egyptian (Ex.
2:11-12) under the first dispensation. Since some of Satan's servants were
slipping into salvation, a new agreement was sought to stop the gap. The
Lord's part in the agreement was deferment of condemnation until the
judgment, negating Satan's claim for the body of Moses, who died under this
dispensation, and bringing Jacob and his descendents to whom the law was
given into the Lord's house. The other guy's part in the agreement was the
adding of the curse of the law to salvation: "For as many as are of the
works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one
that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to
do them" (Gal. 3:10, 1Tim 4:1-3):"When you come to appear before me, who has
required this at your hand, to tread my courts?" (Is. 1:12,1 Tim. 4:1-4)
Salvation now came not merely through faith but also through doing the law.
Wayfaring Jews were people of His house and could be sought out and called
by Him: "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
Samaritans enter not. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of
Israel" (Matt 10:5-6). When the price for all sin was paid on the cross, the
Lord was free to seek out all: "Go into all the world, and preach the gospel
to every creature" (Mark 16:15), and salvation of all in Him was through
faith, free from condemnation: "There is therefore now no condemnation to
them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the
Spirit" (Rom 8:1). All, not in Christ, remain under the condemnation of the
law, for "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise
pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" (Matt 5:18).
The Jews and those who have come into Christ are servants in the Lord's
house; so, there are two groups of elect, the gospel elect (Col. 3:12) and
the enemy-of-the-gospel elect (Rom 11:28). Only the gospel-elect are free
from the condemnation of the law. One is not appointed to wrath (1 Thess
5:9), but the other is appointed to wrath (Ps 95:11)
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