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"Pastor Dave" |
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19 Jul 2007 11:06:03 AM |
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Divine Manifestation of our Lord, by Eusebius |
The Theophania, or Divine Manifestation of our Lord
and Saviour Jesus Christ, by Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea
(c. 265 - 340)
Translated and Edited from an ancient manuscript
recently discovered by Samuel Lee Lee's Preliminary
Disseration on the Theophania
"But the things which took place afterwards, did our Saviour,
from his foreknowledge as THE WORD or GOD, foretell should
come to pass, by means of those which are (now) before us.
For He named the whole Jewish people, the children of
the City; and the Temple, He styled their House. And thus
He testified, that they should, on their own wicked account,
bear the vengeance thus to be inflicted. And, it is right we
should wonder at the fulfilment of this prediction, since at
no time did this place undergo such an entire desolation
as this was. He pointed out moreover, the cause of their
desolation when He said, 'If thou hadst known, even in this
day, the things of thy peace:' intimating too His own coming,
which should be for the peace of the whole world. But, when
ye shall see it reduced by armies, know ye that which comes
upon it, to be a final and full desolation and destruction.
He designates the desolation of Jerusalem, by the destruction
of the Temple, and the laying aside of those services which
were, according to the law of Moses, formerly performed
within it. The manner moreover of the captivity, points out
the war, of which He spoke; 'For (said He) there shall be
(great) tribulation upon the land, and great wrath upon
this people: and they shall fall by the edge of the sword'.
We can learn too, from the writings of Flavius Josephus,
how these things took place in their localities, and how
those, which had been foretold by our Saviour, were, in
fact, fulfilled. On this account He said, 'Let those who are
in its borders not enter into it, since these are the days of
vengeance, that all may be fulfilled which has been written'.
Any one therefore, who desires it, may learn the results of
these things from the writings of Josephus." - Eusebius
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I will only add that we can note how he shows us how
Jesus tied the peace of the whole world, to the phrase,
"thy peace", which was tied to (from that same time
as the Lord said it) "this day".
It was about peace within us, not outside and around us.
They wanted a worldly kingdom. Jesus did not offer them
one and that is why they rejected Him and crucified Him.
He flat out denied a physical kingdom and told them that
it is within and could not be pointed to, nor seen with
the eye.
Luke 17:20-21
20) Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when
the kingdom of God would come, He answered them
and said, 'The kingdom of God does NOT come with
observation'.
21) Nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’.
For indeed, the kingdom of God is WITHIN you.
What Jesus preached regarding the "outside and around us",
was war and desolation for the Temple, Jerusalem and Judea,
so that "all may be fulfilled, which has been written".
Luke 21:20-22
20) But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies,
then know that its desolation is near.
21) Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains,
let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not
those who are in the country enter her.
22) For THESE are the days of vengeance, that ALL things
which are written may be fulfilled.
And note that Eusebius tied this destruction to what Jesus
said about "His coming".
So while many quote Eusebius and others out of context,
thinking they have proved that he/they was/were Futurists,
this proves you shouldn't take that for granted. And while
many claim that there were no (I don't like using this name),
"church fathers" that believed that Christ had returned in
70 AD, that claim is patently false, as I have just proved
with a quote by the same man that the Futurists try to
claim believed that Christ's return was yet future to him,
in the 3rd/4th century.
I hope this information was a blessing to you all! :)
--
Pastor Dave
When making liars happy in their word games takes
precedence over truth, Christ has been abandoned.
-unknown
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: Divine Manifestation of our Lord, by Eusebius |
19 Jul 2007 11:49:10 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" < SATAN @nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:5v2v93tu3hrt9jvsst87iejuikv8rg8e2k@4ax.com...
The Theophania, or Divine Manifestation of our Lord
and Saviour Jesus Christ, by Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea
(c. 265 - 340)
Translated and Edited from an ancient manuscript
recently discovered by Samuel Lee Lee's Preliminary
Disseration on the Theophania
"But the things which took place afterwards, did our Saviour,
from his foreknowledge as THE WORD or GOD, foretell should
come to pass, by means of those which are (now) before us.
For He named the whole Jewish people, the children of
the City; and the Temple, He styled their House. And thus
He testified, that they should, on their own wicked account,
bear the vengeance thus to be inflicted. And, it is right we
should wonder at the fulfilment of this prediction, since at
no time did this place undergo such an entire desolation
as this was. He pointed out moreover, the cause of their
desolation when He said, 'If thou hadst known, even in this
day, the things of thy peace:' intimating too His own coming,
which should be for the peace of the whole world. But, when
ye shall see it reduced by armies, know ye that which comes
upon it, to be a final and full desolation and destruction.
He designates the desolation of Jerusalem, by the destruction
of the Temple, and the laying aside of those services which
were, according to the law of Moses, formerly performed
within it. The manner moreover of the captivity, points out
the war, of which He spoke; 'For (said He) there shall be
(great) tribulation upon the land, and great wrath upon
this people: and they shall fall by the edge of the sword'.
We can learn too, from the writings of Flavius Josephus,
how these things took place in their localities, and how
those, which had been foretold by our Saviour, were, in
fact, fulfilled. On this account He said, 'Let those who are
in its borders not enter into it, since these are the days of
vengeance, that all may be fulfilled which has been written'.
Any one therefore, who desires it, may learn the results of
these things from the writings of Josephus." - Eusebius
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Early Church Father Papius (circa c. 60-135 AD):
"In these he says there would be a certain millennium after the
resurrection, and that there would be a corporeal reign of Christ on this
very earth."
Early Church Father Tertullian (circa 160-225 AD):
"But we do confess that a kingdom is promised to us upon the earth, although
before heaven, only in another state of existence; inasmuch as it will be
after the resurrection for a thousand years in the divinely-built city of
Jerusalem, 'let down from heaven,'"
Early Church Father Justin Martyr (circa 100-165 AD):
"We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is
as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject. And further, there was
a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ,
who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who
believed in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem; and that
thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment
of all men would likewise take place. Just as our Lord also said, 'They
shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the
angels, the children of the God of the resurrection.'"
Early Church Father Irenaeus (circa 130-202 AD):
"For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall
it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: Thus the heaven and
the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a
conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested
upon the seventh day from all His works.' This is an account of the things
formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day
of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were
completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the
sixth thousand year.
"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he
will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at
Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the
glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake
of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that
is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the
promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that 'many coming
from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob.'
"The predicted blessing, therefore, belongs unquestionably to the times of
the kingdom, when the righteous shall bear rule upon their rising from the
dead."
--
For 1600 years the Bible said: "For many deceivers are entering into the
world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh. This is a
deceiver and an antichrist."
The original Greek text of the Bible and the Vulgate tranlation read "Jesus
Christ is coming in the flesh" because coming is in the present active
participle. The earliest versions that I've found to mistranslate the
present participle "is coming" as "is/has come," are the Douay-Rheims NT
(1582) and the King James (1611).
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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
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Preparing the way of the Lord.
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