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User: "Thomas Ellis"
Date: 08 Jun 2005 08:44:08 PM
Object: Divorce
So at what point did adultery and divorce become so passive a sin in the
church; how can saved, blood bought christians justify such (those that do
it) within the body of Christ (the Church) and go with business as usual?
It seems the question goes begging.
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User: "Tom P"

Title: Re: Divorce 10 Jun 2005 05:10:01 PM
"Thomas Ellis" <teve2743@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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So at what point did adultery and divorce become so passive a sin in the
church; how can saved, blood bought christians justify such (those that do
it) within the body of Christ (the Church) and go with business as usual?

It seems the question goes begging.

I am well aware of the words of Jesus concerning adultery as recorded in
Mark 10:10, Luke 19:9, and Matthew 5:32 and 19:9, and those words seems
rather unequivocal.
What do you recommend the churches do to divorced Christians? What type of
sanctions do you believe the churches should impose on divorced Christians?
Remember that Jesus also commanded, not suggested, not encouraged, but
commanded his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give to every
beggar, love our enemies, give to charity in secret, and come to terms with
anyone we are involved in a legal dispute with before we go to court. Yet,
the world is fully of starving, malnourished, and ill-clothed people while
good Christian church members grow fat and spend thousands of dollars a year
on their wardrobes. How many Christians walk past the beggar? How many
good Bible believing Christians arbitrate their disputes in courts every
single day? And how many churches are parties to civil litigation? How
many churches publicize the lists of donors and amounts of their donations?
How many good church going Christians accept awards and nominate others for
honors for their charitable donations? Jesus never said these acts of
omission and commission were more sinful than divorce. Shouldn't those
Christians who commit these acts be sanctioned by the churches to the same
extent as the divorced?
Jesus also said rather unequivocally that rich people cannot enter the
Kingdom of God at Mark 10:25, Matthew 19:24, and Luke 18:25, and the words
of Jesus recorded in those verses are just as unequivocal as the passages on
divorce I mentioned above. And since Jesus himself said that a rich cannot
enter the Kingdom of Heaven, how can rich people be considered saved?
Do you suggest that rich Christians be treated the same as divorced
Christians? Jesus did not opine that one sin was greater than the other, so
if the churches are going to sanction the divorced, the church should also
sanction the wealthy, shouldn't they?
.
User: "Thomas Ellis"

Title: Re: Divorce 01 Jul 2005 06:45:28 PM
So we read about the divorce rate issue in the church, yes as said as it is,
it happens.
What do we do with the divorced? Sanctions? . . . Not really . . . The
question is a bit vague and does go begging. So what's the point? True there
are those in the church that have divorced for the sake of own safety, or
because of an erring spouse in the most server sense of an adultress action
.. . . Yet I think that the greener pasture syndrome enters into the picture
as well. Like those in the world outside of the church, divorce is just to
easy.
The only offices that i believe a divorced Christain should not be allowed
to are the offices of Bishop, or Pastor, and Evangelist might be iffy. And
yes I do believe in repentance, forgiveness and restoration, followed by a
time of proving ones self.
"Tom P" <t_h_om_as_p@iyahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Thomas Ellis" <teve2743@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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So at what point did adultery and divorce become so passive a sin in the
church; how can saved, blood bought christians justify such (those that

do

it) within the body of Christ (the Church) and go with business as

usual?


It seems the question goes begging.

I am well aware of the words of Jesus concerning adultery as recorded in
Mark 10:10, Luke 19:9, and Matthew 5:32 and 19:9, and those words seems
rather unequivocal.

What do you recommend the churches do to divorced Christians? What type of
sanctions do you believe the churches should impose on divorced

Christians?


Remember that Jesus also commanded, not suggested, not encouraged, but
commanded his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give to

every

beggar, love our enemies, give to charity in secret, and come to terms

with

anyone we are involved in a legal dispute with before we go to court.

Yet,

the world is fully of starving, malnourished, and ill-clothed people while
good Christian church members grow fat and spend thousands of dollars a

year

on their wardrobes. How many Christians walk past the beggar? How many
good Bible believing Christians arbitrate their disputes in courts every
single day? And how many churches are parties to civil litigation? How
many churches publicize the lists of donors and amounts of their

donations?

How many good church going Christians accept awards and nominate others

for

honors for their charitable donations? Jesus never said these acts of
omission and commission were more sinful than divorce. Shouldn't those
Christians who commit these acts be sanctioned by the churches to the same
extent as the divorced?

Jesus also said rather unequivocally that rich people cannot enter the
Kingdom of God at Mark 10:25, Matthew 19:24, and Luke 18:25, and the words
of Jesus recorded in those verses are just as unequivocal as the passages

on

divorce I mentioned above. And since Jesus himself said that a rich

cannot

enter the Kingdom of Heaven, how can rich people be considered saved?

Do you suggest that rich Christians be treated the same as divorced
Christians? Jesus did not opine that one sin was greater than the other,

so

if the churches are going to sanction the divorced, the church should also
sanction the wealthy, shouldn't they?




.


User: "John D Newport"

Title: Re: Divorce 09 Jun 2005 07:10:59 PM
"Thomas Ellis" <teve2743@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:I9Npe.1214$eM6.98@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

So at what point did adultery and divorce become so passive a sin in the
church; how can saved, blood bought christians justify such (those that do
it) within the body of Christ (the Church) and go with business as usual?

It seems the question goes begging.

Divorce can never be justified, but in a good church, following Christ's
teachings,
it is forgiven.
.

User: "• Ninure Saunders"

Title: Re: Divorce 09 Jun 2005 09:36:12 AM
In article <I9Npe.1214$eM6.98@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Thomas
Ellis" <teve2743@earthlink.net> wrote:
-So at what point did adultery and divorce become so passive a sin in the
-church; how can saved, blood bought christians justify such (those that do
-it) within the body of Christ (the Church) and go with business as usual?
-
-It seems the question goes begging.
Because it is easier to "go on a tear" about homosexuality.....to pick at
motes than remove beams?
Philip Yancy, in his book What's So Amazing About Grace?, has the
following to say about Christian marriages: "Surely a peculiar people
should demonstrate a higher standard of personal ethics than the
surrounding world. Yet, to take just one example, pollster George Barna
discovered that born-again Christians in modern America actually have a
higher rate of divorce (27%) than nonbelievers (23%); those who describe
themselves as fundamentalists have the highest percentage of all (30%).
Indeed, four of the six states with the highest divorce rates fall in the
region known as the Bible Belt. Far from being peculiar, modern Christians
tend to look just like everyone else, only more so."
Peace,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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