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Religions > Bible |
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"Read The Bible" |
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04 Apr 2006 10:56:49 PM |
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Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another,
committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall
put away her husband, and be married to another, she
committeth adultery. Mark 10:11-12
Whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her
husband committeth adultery. Luke 16:18
Unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord,
let not the wife depart from her husband. But and if
she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be
reconciled to her husband. And let not the husband
put away his wife. 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
The wife is bound by the law* as long as her husband
liveth. But if her husband be dead, she is at liberty
to be married to whom she will, only in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 7:39
(* Law: not the Mosaic law, but the law of Christ.)
-Fulfil the law of Christ. Galatians 6:2
(Unlike the law of Christ, the Mosaic law allowed
divorce and remarriage:)
Let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it
in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when
she is departed out of his house, she may go and be
another man's wife. Deuteronomy 24:1-2
The Pharisees also came unto (Jesus), tempting him,
and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put
away his wife for every cause? And he answered and
said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made
them at the beginning made them male and female, and
said, For this cause shall a man leave father and
mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they twain
shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain,
but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined
together, let not man put asunder.
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They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give
a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He
saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of
your hearts suffered you to put away your wives, but
from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you,
whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for
fornication*, and shall marry another, committeth
adultery, and whoso marrieth her which is put away
doth commit adultery. Matthew 19:3-9
(* Fornication example:)
I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found
her not a maid... Deuteronomy 22:14
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(Because it is adultery to enter into a second
marriage after divorce from a valid spouse, to
remain in such a second marriage is to remain in an
adulterous relationship, and to do that is to
remain in willful, unrepentant sin, a very serious
matter:)
-For if we sin wilfully after that we have received
the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more
sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for
of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour
the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-27
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the
kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
(Jesus has sent this message to us so that we all
might know the truth and have a chance to repent
from our adulterous relationships, and from all of
our other sins, before it's too late.)
Not willing that any should perish, but that all
should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luke 13:3
(The good news is, we can repent at any time!)
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9
(Because entering into a second marriage after
divorce from a valid spouse is adultery, the only
repentance from it is to break off the adulterous
relationship, and then either to remain unmarried or
to return to the original, valid spouse:)
Let not the wife depart from her husband. But and if
she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be
reconciled to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
(Do not listen to anyone who will try to tell you that
it's okay to continue in a second marriage after
divorce from a living, valid spouse. Do not listen to
anyone who will try to tell you that the word doesn't
mean what it says so clearly.)
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine. For the time will come when they will not
endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall
they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears,
and they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:2-4
They commit adultery, and walk in lies. They
strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none
doth return from his wickedness... Jeremiah 23:14
They be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous
men. And they bend their tongues like their bow for
lies, but they are not valiant for the truth upon
the earth. For they proceed from evil to evil, and
they know not me, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 9:2-3
(Many of us will be horrified to find that the Lord
we thought we were serving for so many years, the
Lord we were sure we knew and were sure knew us --
many of us will be horrified to find that he will
reject us outright because we never repented from
our sins!)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth
the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will
say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out
devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you;
depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:21-23
(The church has fallen into severe corruption
regarding second marriage adultery, which has become
more and more pervasive in these end times. And now
the storm of the great tribulation will shortly be
upon us. How many of us will commit apostasy in the
coming times, because we didn't repent from our sins,
because we refused to obey the words of Jesus?)
Whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth
them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built
his house upon a rock. And the rain descended, and
the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon
that house, and it fell not, for it was founded upon
a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of
mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a
foolish man, which built his house upon the sand.
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the
winds blew, and beat upon that house, and it fell,
and great was the fall of it. Matthew 7:24-27
There come a falling away (apostasy)...
2 Thessalonians 2:3
The land is full of adulterers . . .
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Both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house
have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD.
Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery
ways in the darkness. They shall be driven on, and
fall therein, for I will bring evil upon them, even
the year of their visitation, saith the LORD...
Jeremiah 23:10-12
They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD
hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto
every one that walketh after the imagination of his
own heart, No evil shall come upon you. For who
hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath
perceived and heard his word? Who hath marked his
word, and heard it? Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD
is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind. It
shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have
executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of
his heart. In the latter days ye shall consider it
perfectly. I have not sent these prophets, yet they
ran. I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused
my people to hear my words, then they should have
turned them from their evil way, and from the evil
of their doings. Jeremiah 23:16-22
(There is a deceivableness to unrighteousness, that
is, if we are in unrepentant sin we will more likely
be deceived and believe the lie of the Antichrist:)
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan
with all power and signs and lying wonders. And with
all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish, because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should
believe a lie, that they all might be damned who
believed not the truth, but had pleasure in
unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
04 Apr 2006 11:57:14 PM |
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Read The Bible wrote:
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another,
committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall
put away her husband, and be married to another, she
committeth adultery. Mark 10:11-12
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 05:32:07 AM |
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On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Read The Bible wrote:
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another,
committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall
put away her husband, and be married to another, she
committeth adultery. Mark 10:11-12
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
http://www.creationists.org/ervin.html
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 07:08:45 AM |
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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:32:07 GMT, Pastor Dave
<_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Read The Bible wrote:
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another,
committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall
put away her husband, and be married to another, she
committeth adultery. Mark 10:11-12
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Since happiness is based on righteousness, there can be no happiness
without righteousness in the first place. In fact, they are one and
same. Only an evil law would turn righteousness against happiness.
Whenever you see righteousness is in against happiness, you see the
work of evil.
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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05 Apr 2006 06:50:46 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Jesus is my righteousness, in the meantime God wants us to be happy.
:)
oh quit actin like you got anything the Lord wants
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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05 Apr 2006 07:37:36 AM |
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On 5 Apr 2006 04:50:46 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Jesus is my righteousness, in the meantime God wants us to be happy.
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
"Let your moderation be known unto all men.
The Lord is AT HAND" - Philippians 4:5
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| User: "vernon" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 09:21:44 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ee73218hghtk9mpfnfrgq9u3l29ql6oa4@4ax.com...
On 5 Apr 2006 04:50:46 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Jesus is my righteousness, in the meantime God wants us to be happy.
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
He that says he is without sin, the truth (Jesus) is not in him.
If we confess (properly translated as agree CONTINUOUSLY) we are forgiven.
We are on the earth.
There is an admonition against classic adultery.
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 10:07:26 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:21:44 -0700, "vernon"
<there@there.com> spake thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ee73218hghtk9mpfnfrgq9u3l29ql6oa4@4ax.com...
On 5 Apr 2006 04:50:46 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Jesus is my righteousness, in the meantime God wants us to be happy.
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
He that says he is without sin, the truth (Jesus) is not in him.
If we confess (properly translated as agree CONTINUOUSLY) we are forgiven.
We are on the earth.
There is an admonition against classic adultery.
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
So on one side, the guy who says that nothing
he does is sin. On the other side, you claiming
that everything I do is sin.
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
The Last Days were in the first century:
Matthew 3:7,10,12
7) But when He saw many of the Pharisees and
Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto
THEM, O GENERATION of vipers, who hath warned
YOU to flee from the wrath to come?
10) And NOW also the axe is laid unto the root
of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire.
12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will
throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat
into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff
with unquenchable fire.
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| User: "vernon" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 11:12:58 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:68n732tv6edenag382pu0j7m5614ja6glt@4ax.com...
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:21:44 -0700, "vernon"
<there@there.com> spake thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8ee73218hghtk9mpfnfrgq9u3l29ql6oa4@4ax.com...
On 5 Apr 2006 04:50:46 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On 4 Apr 2006 21:57:14 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
I hear ya! but! I believe God wants us to be happy
Yes, I'm sure He doesn't care at all
about that righteousness thing.
Jesus is my righteousness, in the meantime God wants us to be happy.
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
He that says he is without sin, the truth (Jesus) is not in him.
If we confess (properly translated as agree CONTINUOUSLY) we are forgiven.
We are on the earth.
There is an admonition against classic adultery.
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
So on one side, the guy who says that nothing
he does is sin. On the other side, you claiming
that everything I do is sin.
No sides. He has chosen or not.
Eph 2:1
Eph 2:8-10
1Jn 1:7-11
He that says he is without sin, the truth (Jesus) is not in him.
If we confess (properly translated as agree CONTINUOUSLY) we are forgiven.
We are on the earth.
There is an admonition against classic adultery.
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 12:03:34 PM |
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:12:58 -0700, "vernon"
<there@there.com> spake thusly:
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
So on one side, the guy who says that nothing
he does is sin. On the other side, you claiming
that everything I do is sin.
No sides. He has chosen or not.
Right. According to you, we're all Jesus murderers,
who can't do anything but sin. Gotcha. Goodbye.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
The Last Days were in the first century:
"And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom
of heaven is AT HAND." - Matthew 3:2
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| User: "icono" |
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05 Apr 2006 06:59:12 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:12:58 -0700, "vernon"
<there@there.com> spake thusly:
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
So on one side, the guy who says that nothing
he does is sin. On the other side, you claiming
that everything I do is sin.
No sides. He has chosen or not.
Right. According to you, we're all Jesus murderers,
who can't do anything but sin. Gotcha. Goodbye.
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NOTICE TO ALL, PASTOR DAVE THINKS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
"PASTOR" Dave is God.
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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05 Apr 2006 10:24:40 PM |
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icono wrote:
NOTICE TO ALL, PASTOR DAVE THINKS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
"PASTOR" Dave is God.
hmmm
I believe we have our *state with God then there is our *standing with
God and our state is not always up to our standing
with my mind I do serve God but with this body I do serve sin UNTO
DEATH
what shall we say then; shall we continue in sin? GOD FORBID! How shall
we which are dead to sin live any longer therein, but so that no man
can boast, it is the Grace of God whereby I am saved and no longer of
works (lest any man should boast).
So I see two laws warring inside of me, one after the flesh and one
after the spirit.
I had a pastor tell me once (talkin about the two natures) *whichever
dog you feed the most will be the strongest.
I gave up a long time ago trying to please the Lord after the flesh,
it's the reason certain religions who do embrace (easy do works) are
popular; they appeal to the innate pride in a man or woman.
There are days when it would be easy for me to just get up and goto
church on Saturday; and call myself doing God a favor, or if I was a
female to abstain from certain articles of clothing, like lipsticks,
nylons, short dresses high heels etc...IF THAT'S ALL THERE WAS TO IT!!
WE'D HAVE IT MADE but it's not.
Daily! I depend on God's grace, his unmerited favor.
GOOD WORKS do not give birth to themselves they are a direct result of
being on the vine.
OH HAPPY DAY!!! OH HAPPY DAY!!! The day I realized my standing with God
was immaculate! I shouted! I cried! I DANCED WITH JOY!! I didn't have
to "live up" anymore.
There was a time on earth when in that book of heaven, and old account
was standing
with sins yet unforgiven, My name was at the TOP and MANY things below
but I went unto the keeper and settled them long ago...!!!
LOL!!!
Love divine love divine!! every promise in the book is mine!! i don't
know the next line..
but it's LOVE DIVINE
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is going to peel some of you raw, but, there's nothing like real
freedom to give birth to real freedom; you haven't began to live until
the Son... has-set-you-free
I pray for all my brothers that are weaker in the faith, and no! I will
not indulge in one single liberty if it causes one to stumble, Dave
needs to know this.
Can't nobody put a yoke around my neck, can't nobody do me like Jiiiuus
I SAY CAN'T NOBODY
do me like the Lord.
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| User: "vernon" |
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05 Apr 2006 06:57:09 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <_-_Ananias917_-_@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:12:58 -0700, "vernon"
<there@there.com> spake thusly:
EVERY man, get it, EVERY man, including YOU is CONTINUOUSLY guilty of
adultery.
So on one side, the guy who says that nothing
he does is sin. On the other side, you claiming
that everything I do is sin.
No sides. He has chosen or not.
Right. According to you, we're all Jesus murderers,
who can't do anything but sin. Gotcha. Goodbye.
"NONE ARE RIGHTEOUS,NO NOT ONE"
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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05 Apr 2006 08:27:35 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
If you're married stay married
if you're single stay single
if you're miserable, leave the sucka and STAY SINGLE
leaving someone is not adultery
Here is my judgement, it's MUSICAL CHAIRS DAVE!
Everybody better get somewhere and get planted.
Why do we suppose the Lord would want anyone (especially those young
and weak in the faith) to remain miserable against their will!
The rule is! There is no sin to the believer, apart from un belief.
Thing is, you Christianity must be practical!
You can't herd up a whole nest of heathens and realistically expect
everyone to remain with their partner upon herding them in!
In a heathen world heathens divorce and remarry, so do Christians...
The church shouldn't make such a big deal about it, neither should this
be any surprise to the seasoned minister
rather.. my judgement is, HEY!!
You keep talking about leaving that woman or that man...
GO AHEAD!!! JUST DO IT!!! THEN GET PLANTED....
"NO" you're not going to keep running in and out of marriages..
but many Christians are unequally yoked..
I agree! It is God's highest will for us to endure and suffer through a
hard hearted rebellious spouse...hang in there...etc..
but in practice this becomes unpractical; you look like you're here,
you look like you're there
JUST
GET
SOME
WHERE
AND
STAYTHERE!
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I'm saying it very poorly here.
God don't care if you're married, single, bond, free, rich, poor,
black, white, yellow, green, any of it!
God began a work in us; by sheer virtue of the numbers God knows so
many will not remain married; and it's ok, he expected it, he made
provision for the reality! that we see Dave.
I dare you to stand in front of a congregation of 300 new converts and
tell them, nobody get a divorce, or make someone feel bad, or compel
someone to remain with that jackass abusive husband
The Lord has contempt for the man that covers his wife with violence.
Call it! accpetable losses...
God wants us to be happy.
we need not contrive that God is some magical cure for the garbage we
did to ourselves.
You, or me or anyone, we married this one or that one...while we was
insane!
anyone that is not saved is a little insane...I know you can agree with
that..
God don't blame us...
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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05 Apr 2006 10:06:24 AM |
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On 5 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
If you're married stay married
if you're single stay single
if you're miserable, leave the sucka and STAY SINGLE
leaving someone is not adultery
Here is my judgement, it's MUSICAL CHAIRS DAVE!
Everybody better get somewhere and get planted.
Why do we suppose the Lord would want anyone (especially those young
and weak in the faith) to remain miserable against their will!
The rule is! There is no sin to the believer, apart from un belief.
Thing is, you Christianity must be practical!
You can't herd up a whole nest of heathens and realistically expect
everyone to remain with their partner upon herding them in!
In a heathen world heathens divorce and remarry, so do Christians...
The church shouldn't make such a big deal about it, neither should this
be any surprise to the seasoned minister
rather.. my judgement is, HEY!!
You keep talking about leaving that woman or that man...
GO AHEAD!!! JUST DO IT!!! THEN GET PLANTED....
"NO" you're not going to keep running in and out of marriages..
but many Christians are unequally yoked..
I agree! It is God's highest will for us to endure and suffer through a
hard hearted rebellious spouse...hang in there...etc..
but in practice this becomes unpractical; you look like you're here,
you look like you're there
JUST
GET
SOME
WHERE
AND
STAYTHERE!
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I'm saying it very poorly here.
God don't care if you're married, single, bond, free, rich, poor,
black, white, yellow, green, any of it!
God began a work in us; by sheer virtue of the numbers God knows so
many will not remain married; and it's ok, he expected it, he made
provision for the reality! that we see Dave.
I dare you to stand in front of a congregation of 300 new converts and
tell them, nobody get a divorce, or make someone feel bad, or compel
someone to remain with that jackass abusive husband
The Lord has contempt for the man that covers his wife with violence.
Call it! accpetable losses...
God wants us to be happy.
we need not contrive that God is some magical cure for the garbage we
did to ourselves.
You, or me or anyone, we married this one or that one...while we was
insane!
anyone that is not saved is a little insane...I know you can agree with
that..
God don't blame us...
You didn't answer my question. You rambled
and avoided it.
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
All we can do every day is the next right thing.
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage - |
05 Apr 2006 11:17:07 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
That is correct
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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05 Apr 2006 12:02:33 PM |
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On 5 Apr 2006 09:17:07 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
<bigbadbarry@adelphia.net> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
So in other words, if someone says that they
"have Jesus", then they can do whatever makes
them happy, including committing adultery,
for example?
That is correct
You are wrong and it is not Christ that you worship.
Matthew 7:24-27
24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine,
and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which
built his house upon a rock:
25) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and
the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell
not; for it was founded upon a rock.
26) And every one that heareth these sayings of mine,
and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish
man, which built his house upon the sand:
27) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and
the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell:
and great was the fall of it.
"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants
to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether
of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"
- Romans 6:16
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
The Last Days were in the first century:
Matthew 16:27-28
27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory
of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works.
28) Verily I say unto you, There be some standing
here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Jesus said He would return within the lifetime
of the Apostles. we know this, because Jesus
said SOME (at least one, not not most) would
be alive when this happened.
This is not the Transfiguration. There was no
coming with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they were
all still alive.
This is not Pentecost. There was no coming
with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they
were all but one, still alive.
Now see a verse that no one argues is about
His Second Coming and see that this is what
Jesus was referring to, in Matthew 16:27-28.
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward
is with me, to give every man according as
his work shall be." - Revelation 22:12
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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05 Apr 2006 04:01:08 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 09:17:07 -0700, "Freight Train Jones"
That is correct
You are wrong and it is not Christ that you worship.
:p~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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04 Apr 2006 11:19:04 PM |
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Read The Bible wrote:
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They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give
a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He
saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of
your hearts suffered you to put away your wives, but
from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you,
whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for
fornication*, and shall marry another, committeth
adultery, and whoso marrieth her which is put away
doth commit adultery. Matthew 19:3-9
(* Fornication example:)
I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found
her not a maid... Deuteronomy 22:14
So let me see: You can't divorce your wife if she kills your children.
You can't divorce your wife if she flies a plane into the World Trade
Center. You can't divorce your wife if she lies or steals.
But you can divorce her if there's evidence of "fornication."
If there's one place in the New Testament where it seems to be that
someone was putting words into Jesus's mouth, it's right there in that
"except it be for fornication." Jesus was about forgiveness. It seems
odd that he'd make an exception in this case, and ONLY for fornication.
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| User: "knowing" |
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08 Apr 2006 10:31:39 PM |
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your post is spot on.
seems the only protesters and the ones who dont
know or want to know god.
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| User: "Freight Train Jones" |
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08 Apr 2006 10:34:00 PM |
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X-No-Archive: Yes
knowing wrote:
your post is spot on.
seems the only protesters and the ones who dont
know or want to know god.
nice try Pastor Dave
simple little Sock Puppet
You tried this before
you really do have a temper problem
temperance is a fruit of the spirit
but you'll never get tempered running from pain
If you're gonna have some sips from the silver cup, you have to be
ready to have a few sips from the bitter cup first.
It's a trade of, death for life.
Unless a kernel of corn goes into the ground and dies! it will never
become what it can be.
Later Sock Puppet
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