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17 Jan 2005 03:09:24 PM |
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Divorce and Remarriage |
"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to
his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more
twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not
man put asunder . . .
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth
adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be
married to another, she committeth adultery."
-- Mark 10:7-12
"...and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery."
-- Luke 16:18
"...the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband
so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from
the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be
married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her
husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no
adulteress, though she be married to another man."
-- Romans 7:2-3
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her
husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only
in the Lord. But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment:
and I think also that I have the Spirit of God."
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-- 1 Corinthians 7:39-40
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| User: "jw no" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 06:33:31 AM |
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"But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except
sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman
who is divorced commits adultery." --- Matthew 5:32
"He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted
you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say
to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries
another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits
adultery." ---Matthew 19
"Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to
depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain
unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce
his wife. But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife
who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not
divorce her. And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is
willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving
husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by
the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are
holy. But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister
is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. For how
do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know,
O husband, whether you will save your wife? --- 1 Corinthians 7: 10-16
<bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105996163.970449.281550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to
his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more
twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not
man put asunder . . .
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth
adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be
married to another, she committeth adultery."
-- Mark 10:7-12
"...and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery."
-- Luke 16:18
"...the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband
so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from
the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be
married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her
husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no
adulteress, though she be married to another man."
-- Romans 7:2-3
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her
husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only
in the Lord. But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment:
and I think also that I have the Spirit of God."
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-- 1 Corinthians 7:39-40
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 01:57:15 PM |
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"...if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is
not under bondage* in such cases..."
-- 1 Corinthians 7:15
* under bondage: "Greek... douloo... Biblical Usage [can be referring
to:] give myself wholly to one's needs and service"
"...the woman which hath an husband is bound* by the law to her husband
so long as he liveth..."
-- Romans 7:2
* bound: "Greek... deo... Biblical Usage [can be referring to:] to
bind, tie, fasten"
"The wife is bound* by the law as long as her husband liveth..."
-- 1 Corinthians 7:39
* bound: "Greek... deo... Biblical Usage [can be referring to:] to
bind, tie, fasten"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 01:53:09 PM |
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"Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication..."
-- Matthew 19:9
"...Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was
found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a
just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to
put her away privily."
-- Matthew 1:18-19
"If any man take a wife and say, I took this woman, and when I came to
her, I found her not a maid..."
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-- Deuteronomy 22:13-14
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
17 Jan 2005 05:46:58 PM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 13:09:24 -0800, wrote:
Right, civil divorce only and remarriage is adultery.
"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to
his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more
twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not
man put asunder . . .
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth
adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be
married to another, she committeth adultery."
-- Mark 10:7-12
"...and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery."
-- Luke 16:18
"...the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband
so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from
the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be
married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her
husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no
adulteress, though she be married to another man."
-- Romans 7:2-3
"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her
husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only
in the Lord. But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment:
and I think also that I have the Spirit of God."
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-- 1 Corinthians 7:39-40
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Ninure Saunders" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 08:08:37 AM |
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In article <cijou05245vdc665clfv3j266l8jv4utek@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
-On 17 Jan 2005 13:09:24 -0800, wrote:
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-Right, civil divorce only and remarriage is adultery.
And where does that say in he Scripures cited?
Where is it even implied?
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->"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to
->his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more
->twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not
->man put asunder . . .
->
->Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth
->adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be
->married to another, she committeth adultery."
->
->-- Mark 10:7-12
->
->"...and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
->committeth adultery."
->
->-- Luke 16:18
->
->"...the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband
->so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from
->the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be
->married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her
->husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no
->adulteress, though she be married to another man."
->
->-- Romans 7:2-3
->
->"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her
->husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only
->in the Lord. But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment:
->and I think also that I have the Spirit of God."
->.
->-- 1 Corinthians 7:39-40
-
-duke
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-*****
-Matthew 7
-21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
-will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
-who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "Rowland Croucher" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 03:14:56 AM |
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On divorce and remarriage:
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/4972.htm
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 05:45:54 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:14:56 +1100, "Rowland Croucher"
<rccroucher@removethispleaseoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
On divorce and remarriage:
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/4972.htm
God said "what I have joined let no man put asunder".
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 09:43:29 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:45:54 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:14:56 +1100, "Rowland Croucher"
<rccroucher@removethispleaseoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
On divorce and remarriage:
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/4972.htm
God said "what I have joined let no man put asunder".
God also said take adulterers outside of the city and stone them to
death but your little group ignores that command.
God also said that a man and woman should get married but your little
group does not allow priests to follow God's words.
God also said you would be able to make a mountain move but I have
never seen a Catholic do that.
God also said don't get drunk but I know plenty of priests and
Catholics who do that regularly.
Qui stipes!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 05:58:04 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:43:29 GMT, Don < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
God said "what I have joined let no man put asunder".
God also said take adulterers outside of the city and stone them to
death but your little group ignores that command.
Nope. that would mean we stand in judgement of them.
God also said that a man and woman should get married but your little
group does not allow priests to follow God's words.
The bible provides 3 reasons for not marrying, and one is specifically "for the sake of
the kingdom of God", ie, the priesthood.
God also said you would be able to make a mountain move but I have
never seen a Catholic do that.
If Jesus provides as we ask. Try again.
God also said don't get drunk but I know plenty of priests and
Catholics who do that regularly.
Where did God say "don't get drunk".
Qui stipes!
Yep, you lose.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
18 Jan 2005 06:31:05 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:58:04 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:43:29 GMT, Don < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
God said "what I have joined let no man put asunder".
God also said take adulterers outside of the city and stone them to
death but your little group ignores that command.
Nope. that would mean we stand in judgement of them.
What do ya mean "nope?" The Bible says that...but you don't really
believe the Bible, except when it fits your dogma, do ya?
God also said that a man and woman should get married but your little
group does not allow priests to follow God's words.
The bible provides 3 reasons for not marrying, and one is specifically "for the sake of
the kingdom of God", ie, the priesthood.
Nice twisting of the scripture to fit your dogma again.
God also said you would be able to make a mountain move but I have
never seen a Catholic do that.
If Jesus provides as we ask. Try again.
WHAT? When was the last time you moved a mountain? When was the last
time a priest moved a mountain?
God also said don't get drunk but I know plenty of priests and
Catholics who do that regularly.
Where did God say "don't get drunk".
Oh...I forgot...you only know parts of the Bible, not those that
disagree with your dogma.
Try Eph.5:18.
"Don't get drunk!"
Qui stipes!
Yep, you lose.
Not trying to win, just correct some of your fractured theology.
One is often told that it is a very wrong thing to attack religion,
because religion makes men (and women) virtuous.
So I am told; I have not noticed it.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
19 Jan 2005 05:44:03 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:31:05 GMT, Don < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
God also said take adulterers outside of the city and stone them to
death but your little group ignores that command.
Nope. that would mean we stand in judgement of them.
What do ya mean "nope?" The Bible says that...but you don't really
believe the Bible, except when it fits your dogma, do ya?
Nope.
God also said that a man and woman should get married but your little
group does not allow priests to follow God's words.
The bible provides 3 reasons for not marrying, and one is specifically "for the sake of
the kingdom of God", ie, the priesthood.
Nice twisting of the scripture to fit your dogma again.
Dogma = what the bible says.
God also said you would be able to make a mountain move but I have
never seen a Catholic do that.
If Jesus provides as we ask. Try again.
WHAT? When was the last time you moved a mountain? When was the last
time a priest moved a mountain?
The last time I asked Jesus to. Which is never.
God also said don't get drunk but I know plenty of priests and
Catholics who do that regularly.
Where did God say "don't get drunk".
Oh...I forgot...you only know parts of the Bible, not those that
disagree with your dogma.
dogma = what the bible says.
Try Eph.5:18.
"Don't get drunk!"
Ephesians 5:18 (New International Version)
18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.
You see, debauchery is the problem, not the drinking.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: Divorce and Remarriage |
20 Jan 2005 12:05:10 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:44:03 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:31:05 GMT, Don < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
God also said take adulterers outside of the city and stone them to
death but your little group ignores that command.
Nope. that would mean we stand in judgement of them.
What do ya mean "nope?" The Bible says that...but you don't really
believe the Bible, except when it fits your dogma, do ya?
Nope.
God also said that a man and woman should get married but your little
group does not allow priests to follow God's words.
The bible provides 3 reasons for not marrying, and one is specifically "for the sake of
the kingdom of God", ie, the priesthood.
Nice twisting of the scripture to fit your dogma again.
Dogma = what the bible says.
God also said you would be able to make a mountain move but I have
never seen a Catholic do that.
If Jesus provides as we ask. Try again.
WHAT? When was the last time you moved a mountain? When was the last
time a priest moved a mountain?
The last time I asked Jesus to. Which is never.
God also said don't get drunk but I know plenty of priests and
Catholics who do that regularly.
Where did God say "don't get drunk".
Oh...I forgot...you only know parts of the Bible, not those that
disagree with your dogma.
dogma = what the bible says.
Try Eph.5:18.
"Don't get drunk!"
Ephesians 5:18 (New International Version)
18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.
You see, debauchery is the problem, not the drinking.
You see..."Do not get drunk!"
You must be a drinker...probably a drunkard...or you would not be
trying to change the words of Scripture!
Qui stipes!
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