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"Pastor Dave" |
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14 Aug 2007 02:00:19 PM |
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End of Time |
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
17 Aug 2007 09:02:51 AM |
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"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age. It also
speaks of eternal life. There will be a time when time *as
we know it* will end, meaning sin for us will come to an
end. I don't believe time will stop ticking for us as long
as we have physical bodies. And I believe we will have
physical bodies forever. So I'm not sure what your point is?
randy
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
17 Aug 2007 10:42:01 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:02:51 -0700, "randy"
<rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
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A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 10:51:34 AM |
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"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 11:38:29 AM |
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randy a ecrit :
"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
You goofed again as the NT claims that the age will be "cut short"
Enjoy !
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 05:02:33 PM |
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"Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" <hasatan@grex.cyberspace.org> wrote in message
news:1187714309.846073.32130@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
randy a ecrit :
"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
You goofed again as the NT claims that the age will be "cut short"
Which is when it ends.
His,
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ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the Lord
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
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Enjoy !
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
22 Aug 2007 03:49:57 AM |
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Fred A Stover a ecrit :
"Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" <hasatan@grex.cyberspace.org> wrote in message
news:1187714309.846073.32130@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
randy a ecrit :
"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
You goofed again as the NT claims that the age will be "cut short"
Which is when it ends.
another NT mystery -- the `aion` which is prematurely aborted.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 11:02:23 AM |
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randy wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
===>It says he would come during the lifetime of the author of
Thessalonians.
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them
in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be
with the Lord." (SEE 1 Thessalonians Ch. 4)
Of course both that writer and his followers died long ago, and no
"Lord" did "descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the
archangel and with the trumpet of God". No Lord, no archangels, no
trumpets, only the shouting of ridiculous preachers trying to convince
dumb believers that it is still going to happen any day now. ;-) -- L.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
23 Aug 2007 02:22:19 PM |
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"Libertarius"
randy
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
===>It says he would come during the lifetime of the
author of
Thessalonians....
No it doesn't.
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up
together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the
air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." (SEE 1
Thessalonians Ch. 4)
Nothing you quoted indicates *when* Paul expected Christ to
return. When the author refers to "we" he is not specifying
himself or his own generation. It is a reference to the
Church in general. Paul already knew that Christians were
not to be concerned about the "times and seasons set by the
Lord alone." Luke had stated this, and he had been Paul's
companion. (Incidently, Paul made it clear in his letters
that he expected to die--and not be "alive to remain and be
caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air!)
This is what Luke wrote...
Acts 1:7 He said to them, "It is not for you to know times
or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority.
randy
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
26 Aug 2007 07:11:15 PM |
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randy wrote:
"Libertarius"
randy
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
===>It says he would come during the lifetime of the
author of
Thessalonians....
No it doesn't.
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up
together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the
air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." (SEE 1
Thessalonians Ch. 4)
Nothing you quoted indicates *when* Paul expected Christ to
return. When the author refers to "we" he is not specifying
himself or his own generation.
===>That is STUPID!
If you wrote to someone and said that the President will come
to "our twon when we invite him", what would that mean?
Go back tou school and learn English grammar.
It is a reference to the
Church in general.
===>That is pure NONSENSE.
Paul already knew that Christians were
not to be concerned about the "times and seasons set by the
Lord alone." Luke had stated this, and he had been Paul's
companion. (Incidently, Paul made it clear in his letters
that he expected to die--and not be "alive to remain and be
caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air!)
===>WE THE LIVING means HIM AND HIS ADDRESSEES.
This is what Luke wrote...
Acts 1:7 He said to them, "It is not for you to know times
or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority.
randy
===>Irrelevant what the fictional "Luke" may have written.
You are mixing together two totally different writers'
statements, while having no proof there ever was a "Paul", let alone
that the author of LUKE was his "companion".
But even if he was, the statement in 1 Thess. stands for itself
and it does not mean what you are trying to twist it into, LIAR! -- L.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
27 Aug 2007 01:05:01 PM |
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"Libertarius"
randy
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up
together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the
air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." (SEE 1
Thessalonians Ch. 4)
Nothing you quoted indicates *when* Paul expected Christ
to return. When the author refers to "we" he is not
specifying himself or his own generation.
===>That is STUPID!
If you wrote to someone and said that the President will
come
to "our twon when we invite him", what would that mean?
Go back tou school and learn English grammar.
It is perfectly acceptable to use "we" in reference to the
entire Church of the current age. It is, for example,
perfectly acceptable to say, "We Americans will have to
confront many trials and conflicts. We will have to face the
problems of old age. We will have to reexamine our beliefs
in centuries to come, when our beliefs no longer seem
applicable." In this case, "we" does not mean me personally.
It refers to the group with whom I'm associated, ie
Americans in general.
It is a reference to the
Church in general.
===>That is pure NONSENSE.
See above. On the contrary, it is perfectly natural,
perfectly acceptable. It would, for example, be perfectly
acceptable for Paul to say, "We Christians will one day have
to face the Antichrist, and may have to reexamine our
beliefs after centuries of testing by modernistic methods of
examining truth." This can be abbreviated to say, "We will
one day have to face Antichrist and the modern world." Paul
would not be indicating that *he himself* would be the one
having to face Antichrist and the modern world!
randy
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 11:37:32 AM |
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Libertarius a ecrit :
randy wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
"randy"
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
It says that Christ will return on the "last day" of this
present age. That is the end of the current age.
randy
===>It says he would come during the lifetime of the author of
Thessalonians.
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them
in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be
with the Lord." (SEE 1 Thessalonians Ch. 4)
Of course both that writer and his followers died long ago, and no
"Lord" did "descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the
archangel and with the trumpet of God". No Lord, no archangels, no
trumpets, only the shouting of ridiculous preachers trying to convince
dumb believers that it is still going to happen any day now. ;-) -- L.
interesting how the `paulos` author felt confident to go so far as to
set a date.
many prophets get carried away with their own con and "slip"
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| User: " ::: trash of ACC :::" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
17 Aug 2007 11:45:15 AM |
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In news:4dgbc3t0cv053be4q85mjqj1brl9f1ou81@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> typed:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:02:51 -0700, "randy"
<rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
Nowhere does the Bible say, "In 70 AD the heavens will pass away with a
great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and
the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." NOWHERE!
::: trash :::
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
17 Aug 2007 02:50:03 PM |
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" ::: trash of ACC :::" <veralein@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:5im1l2F3q4ri1U1@mid.individual.net...
In news:4dgbc3t0cv053be4q85mjqj1brl9f1ou81@4ax.com,
Pastor Knave < SATAN @nowhere.com> typed:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:02:51 -0700, "randy"
<rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
Nowhere does the Bible say, "In 70 AD the heavens will pass away with a
great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and
the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." NOWHERE!
You notice that too. Pastor Knave still hasn't.
His,
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http://tinyurl.com/2hf6ak
ho echon hota akoueto
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
<)))))))><
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
17 Aug 2007 02:21:31 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:45:15 +0200, " ::: trash of ACC :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:4dgbc3t0cv053be4q85mjqj1brl9f1ou81@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> typed:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:02:51 -0700, "randy"
<rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:
"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
No stupid, it doesn't. Nowhere does the Bible say,
"In 2007 AD, the Bible speaks of your time.".
Nowhere does the Bible say, "In 70 AD the heavens will pass away with a
great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and
the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." NOWHERE!
::: trash :::
Hi Vera. More stupid antics?
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
18 Aug 2007 07:56:27 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:21:31 -0400,
in article <29tbc3p044pa8hjoaju8nrr9el2cr6a3mv@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
Nowhere does the Bible say, "In 70 AD the heavens will pass away with a
great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and
the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." NOWHERE!
::: trash :::
Hi Vera. More stupid antics?
You're the one who tried to pull a Glenn, by claiming that
since you didn't "say" the exact words "the destruction of
Jerusalem fulfilled the prophecy that Christ would save all
Israel", that means you didn't "claim" it. You DO claim it
when you "claim" the destruction of Jerusalem was the
culmination of Christ's return, in perfect contradiction to
Romans 11:26.
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
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We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
21 Aug 2007 11:34:58 AM |
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randy a ecrit :
"Pastor Dave"
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF
TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
The Bible speaks of the end of the current age.
well the Neo_zoroastrian NT does.
it is lifted straight from Zoroastrian eschatology.
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: End of Time |
14 Aug 2007 08:15:27 PM |
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"Pastor Knave" < SATAN @nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:dru3c3p3an8dh8040mf1nvoj4g3qjpu5oj@4ax.com...
Did you know that the Bible NEVER mentions the END OF TIME?
It only tells of THE TIME OF THE END... of course meaning
the END of the OLD COVENANT AGE or WORLD.
Satan lies again.
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 12:32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be
forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be
forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The first have become last, and "this world/age" is the church age, which
ends with His coming and the salvation of His gospel-elect church.
The end of "this world" begins "the world to come" when His
enemy-of-the-gospel elect are returned to Israel: "Behold, O my people, I
will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and
bring you into the land of Israel" (Ezek 37:12). That world ends at the
judgment and the new heaven and earth: "And whosoever was not found written
in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven
and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;
and there was no more sea (Rev. 20:15-21:1).
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His,
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http://tinyurl.com/2hf6ak
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matk 10:15)
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