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"whitey" |
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10 Jul 2006 06:06:26 AM |
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end times |
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
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| User: "Code Programmer" |
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10 Jul 2006 08:19:21 AM |
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"whitey" <me@here.com> wrote in message
news:80d4b25oolamtksk28ggdvtbdfd67garld@4ax.com...
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Depends who u ask...
There will be a period in the final 42 months of the reign of the antichrist
where believers are persecuted. Daniel 7 gives an overview from Babylon to
the New Kingdom of the saints (saints is all believers, coz all are clean by
God's grace & Jesus blood)
Note there is also a place prepared by God for safety away from the Dragon
for the final 42 months (times time and half a time/ 2 years, 1 year and
half a year)/3.5years
Revelation 13 tells of the beast/antichrist.
He gets a fatal wound and is healed and all who are not written in the book
of life will be amazed and follow after him and worship him. (says all these
will suffer for eternity Rev 14:9-11)
Trumpets in Revelation can be fulfilled up to the 6th (Rev 9) being
fulfilled right now with fire smoke and brimstone killing a third part of
men starting at the river Euphrates in Iraq with insurgencies. Note 4am
4/4/2004 Basra joins the insurgencies as Fallujah is being beseiged by
American's swearing revenge over the 4 contractors killed on the 29th, 6
days earlier, the 88th day of the year (88 appears a lot near prophecies in
hindsight)
Daniel 11:21 is the final beast/king/antichrist coming to power, so from
there down to verse 45. with 21-24 being fulfilled already (24 coinciding
cross ref to the 5th Trumpet) and 25 possibly partially fulfilled with the
6th Trumpet.
Many will wage war in God's name (which is not a godly thing to do) Jesus
preached peace, is called the prince of peace. Jesus weapons are spiritual.
Ther is the Mark of the Beast, Image of the Beast, and Worship of the Beast
and it's image. These occur in Revelation 13, and are warned about in
Revelation 14:9-11 as being UNFORGIVABLE and ETENAL TORMENT. The 3 things
besides blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which cannot be forgiven. Why?
Because there will be a major warning. Perhaps it is blasphemy against the
Holy Spirit, which is to say, don't believe the Spirit, and even think of it
as being evil and trying to do harm to mankind. (such is lost, because they
see good as bad and visa versa. Such means that they wouldn't know good is
to help them and flee from it.)
BEAST CODE
in a code to calc the number of the beast, as in Revelation 13:18,
the word SEAL = 222, and 911 = 222.
Makes sense it was an attention getter, 911 changed the world and got
everyone's attention. Also as the Emergency number of USA.
Note 911... you want info and proof, this will blow your mind... see all
these links to 911 prove it is a sign from God, as foreknown.
http://beast666.faithweb.com/cgi-bin/i/newstuff/images/0911links-2dCutOut2.jpg
You may like to get a free program of the bible so you can do searches and
comparisons of many versions (I got 11 for free as extra downloads from
them) called E-Sword. It allows copy and paste too. So you can see original
Greek and Hebrew as well built in with the KJV+ version. You need to DL the
main program and the add on versions.
www.e-sword.com
Daniel 7 says when the Power of the Holy People are shattered then the end
shall come. Daniel 8 says he will suceed with deception and destroy many by
peace/security.
See main site, shows much proofs that independant of the bible prove
backings for some major events and secondary signs.
http://beast666.faithweb.com/
Note this message is attacked even by so called Christians.
PEace
Ray
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| User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: end times |
10 Jul 2006 11:26:37 AM |
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"Code Programmer" <raymokeeffe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8tk4m$19$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
"whitey" <me@here.com> wrote in message
news:80d4b25oolamtksk28ggdvtbdfd67garld@4ax.com...
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
First of all, Whitey, if you're a Christian, lay off the prophecy drivel and
pay attention to what you need to do.
Ultimately, the only thing to be learned from prophecy is what Jesus said
plainly--keep the faith. The enemies of God will gather in their four
corners, and all hell will break loose against the church. Be not disturbed
or afraid. The only thing they can do is take your life, not your soul, IF
you keep the faith.
There are better ways for you to spend your time that listening to lunatics
like the one below.
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Depends who u ask...
There will be a period in the final 42 months of the reign of the
antichrist where believers are persecuted. Daniel 7 gives an overview from
Babylon to the New Kingdom of the saints (saints is all believers, coz all
are clean by God's grace & Jesus blood)
Yo, moron.
Revelation follows the Olivet Discourse, which itself is based on Daniel's
numbers--62/1/7.
That 62 years of the Beginning of Sorrows, a one year transition, and 7
years divided between Satan's attack and God's rebuke.
As usual, you boobs cut off the front of the prophecies and jump to the end
of the story when the story hasn't yet begin.
And it's a good thing it hasn't, since the beginning of the story is the
false accusation, persecution, discrimination, and execution of the
believers.
[snip the rest of the "wham, bam, thank you 'mam," pointless and convoluted,
"Reader's Digest" false interpretation of prophecy]
Ike
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www.eickleberrybooks.com
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The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves
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| User: "Code Programmer" |
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| Title: Re: end times |
10 Jul 2006 11:39:11 AM |
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lol, I have to laugh because I cannot believe someone like you can seriously
be real.
http://www.id-chip.4t.com/
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PEace
Ray M O'Keeffe
An open mind has eyes to see and ears to hear.
If you don't get to the end because you dont like the message, then dont be
surprised when it all goes south and you didnt see it coming.
www.angelfire.com/oz/zen/prophecy/
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"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Code Programmer" <raymokeeffe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8tk4m$19$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
"whitey" <me@here.com> wrote in message
news:80d4b25oolamtksk28ggdvtbdfd67garld@4ax.com...
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
First of all, Whitey, if you're a Christian, lay off the prophecy drivel
and pay attention to what you need to do.
Ultimately, the only thing to be learned from prophecy is what Jesus said
plainly--keep the faith. The enemies of God will gather in their four
corners, and all hell will break loose against the church. Be not
disturbed or afraid. The only thing they can do is take your life, not
your soul, IF you keep the faith.
There are better ways for you to spend your time that listening to
lunatics like the one below.
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Depends who u ask...
There will be a period in the final 42 months of the reign of the
antichrist where believers are persecuted. Daniel 7 gives an overview
from Babylon to the New Kingdom of the saints (saints is all believers,
coz all are clean by God's grace & Jesus blood)
Yo, moron.
Revelation follows the Olivet Discourse, which itself is based on Daniel's
numbers--62/1/7.
That 62 years of the Beginning of Sorrows, a one year transition, and 7
years divided between Satan's attack and God's rebuke.
As usual, you boobs cut off the front of the prophecies and jump to the
end of the story when the story hasn't yet begin.
And it's a good thing it hasn't, since the beginning of the story is the
false accusation, persecution, discrimination, and execution of the
believers.
[snip the rest of the "wham, bam, thank you 'mam," pointless and
convoluted, "Reader's Digest" false interpretation of prophecy]
Ike
--
www.eickleberrybooks.com
******************************
The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves
******************************
Remove X from address to reply
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| User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." |
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| Title: Re: end times |
10 Jul 2006 12:41:28 PM |
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"Code Programmer" <raymokeeffe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8tvr4$fg6$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
lol, I have to laugh because I cannot believe someone like you can
seriously be real.
http://www.id-chip.4t.com/
LOL
You better believe I'm real, and the message is real.
The whole point of prophecy is to exhort the beleivers to keep the faith,
even to the bitter end, and then it describes how the adversaries come after
us.
Then people like you come along and make prophecies a farce.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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| User: "Whitey" |
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| Title: Re: end times |
10 Jul 2006 06:50:15 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:19:21 +1000, "Code Programmer"
<raymokeeffe@hotmail.com> wrote:
"whitey" <me@here.com> wrote in message
news:80d4b25oolamtksk28ggdvtbdfd67garld@4ax.com...
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Depends who u ask...
There will be a period in the final 42 months of the reign of the antichrist
where believers are persecuted. Daniel 7 gives an overview from Babylon to
the New Kingdom of the saints (saints is all believers, coz all are clean by
God's grace & Jesus blood)
Note there is also a place prepared by God for safety away from the Dragon
for the final 42 months (times time and half a time/ 2 years, 1 year and
half a year)/3.5years
Revelation 13 tells of the beast/antichrist.
He gets a fatal wound and is healed and all who are not written in the book
of life will be amazed and follow after him and worship him. (says all these
will suffer for eternity Rev 14:9-11)
Trumpets in Revelation can be fulfilled up to the 6th (Rev 9) being
fulfilled right now with fire smoke and brimstone killing a third part of
men starting at the river Euphrates in Iraq with insurgencies. Note 4am
4/4/2004 Basra joins the insurgencies as Fallujah is being beseiged by
American's swearing revenge over the 4 contractors killed on the 29th, 6
days earlier, the 88th day of the year (88 appears a lot near prophecies in
hindsight)
Daniel 11:21 is the final beast/king/antichrist coming to power, so from
there down to verse 45. with 21-24 being fulfilled already (24 coinciding
cross ref to the 5th Trumpet) and 25 possibly partially fulfilled with the
6th Trumpet.
Many will wage war in God's name (which is not a godly thing to do) Jesus
preached peace, is called the prince of peace. Jesus weapons are spiritual.
Ther is the Mark of the Beast, Image of the Beast, and Worship of the Beast
and it's image. These occur in Revelation 13, and are warned about in
Revelation 14:9-11 as being UNFORGIVABLE and ETENAL TORMENT. The 3 things
besides blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which cannot be forgiven. Why?
Because there will be a major warning. Perhaps it is blasphemy against the
Holy Spirit, which is to say, don't believe the Spirit, and even think of it
as being evil and trying to do harm to mankind. (such is lost, because they
see good as bad and visa versa. Such means that they wouldn't know good is
to help them and flee from it.)
BEAST CODE
in a code to calc the number of the beast, as in Revelation 13:18,
the word SEAL = 222, and 911 = 222.
Makes sense it was an attention getter, 911 changed the world and got
everyone's attention. Also as the Emergency number of USA.
Note 911... you want info and proof, this will blow your mind... see all
these links to 911 prove it is a sign from God, as foreknown.
http://beast666.faithweb.com/cgi-bin/i/newstuff/images/0911links-2dCutOut2.jpg
You may like to get a free program of the bible so you can do searches and
comparisons of many versions (I got 11 for free as extra downloads from
them) called E-Sword. It allows copy and paste too. So you can see original
Greek and Hebrew as well built in with the KJV+ version. You need to DL the
main program and the add on versions.
www.e-sword.com
Daniel 7 says when the Power of the Holy People are shattered then the end
shall come. Daniel 8 says he will suceed with deception and destroy many by
peace/security.
See main site, shows much proofs that independant of the bible prove
backings for some major events and secondary signs.
http://beast666.faithweb.com/
Note this message is attacked even by so called Christians.
PEace
Ray
Thank you Ray. appreciate your time. i have a bit of reading to do
now..thanks
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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10 Jul 2006 11:43:11 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:06:26 +1000, whitey <me@here.com> spake
thusly:
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
All you normally get will be "newspaper prophets", whose
claims change with the daily news. (:
The truth is, that Jesus promised to return in the first
century and He did.
I would suggest that you ask yourself a question...
"If the Bible is all about us today, then why did Jesus
come to the people of the 1st century?"
Was it His goal to arrive on Earth and talk past everyone,
ignoring them, just to talk to YOU, TODAY?
Also ask yourself...
"If the Bible is all about us today, then why did God stop
inspiring Scriptures in the 1st century?"
The Kingdom of God is not a physical thing. See Luke 17:20-21.
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
The Bible says that death came by sin and sin
came by Adam (Rom 5:12; 1 Cor 15:21-22).
Evolution says lots of things lived and died
before Adam and Eve got here and therefore
attempts to rule out what the Bible says.
One or the other is right, but they can't both
be right.
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| User: "Leonard Pardin" |
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10 Jul 2006 11:40:49 AM |
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whitey wrote:
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
No one knows; and according to Jesus, no one will ever know. Let's see
what Jesus said about it as reported by Mark 13:
7: "When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such
things must happen, but the end is still to come."
8: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There
will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the
beginning of birth pains."
When it comes, it will be the end of the world and no one on the planet
earth can survive. Here's what Jesus said:
24: "But in those days, following that distress, 'the sun will be
darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
25: "the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be
shaken."
But when it's all going to happen, no one knows:
32: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
33: "Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come."
So don't pay attention to all those false prophets screaming that they
can see the signs of the coming tribulation. Forget about the
Evangelical heretics quoting from the Old Testament. Jesus stated
emphatically that no one will know. Jesus rejected the Old Testament
tripe, as so should all good Christians.
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| User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." |
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10 Jul 2006 12:43:35 PM |
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"Leonard Pardin" <leoppard@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
news:1152549649.084584.280030@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
whitey wrote:
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
No one knows; and according to Jesus, no one will ever know. Let's see
what Jesus said about it as reported by Mark 13:
7: "When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such
things must happen, but the end is still to come."
8: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There
will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the
beginning of birth pains."
When it comes, it will be the end of the world and no one on the planet
earth can survive. Here's what Jesus said:
24: "But in those days, following that distress, 'the sun will be
darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
25: "the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be
shaken."
But when it's all going to happen, no one knows:
32: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
33: "Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come."
So don't pay attention to all those false prophets screaming that they
can see the signs of the coming tribulation. Forget about the
Evangelical heretics quoting from the Old Testament. Jesus stated
emphatically that no one will know. Jesus rejected the Old Testament
tripe, as so should all good Christians.
Speaking of tripe...
1) Jesus did say that we would know the season, adjuring us to keep the
faith all the more.
2) Jesus didn't reject the Old Testament--He relied on it. In fact, He
didn't just rely on it--He gave it to us.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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| User: "Whitey" |
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| Title: Re: end times |
10 Jul 2006 07:19:57 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:43:35 -0500, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
<Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:
"Leonard Pardin" <leoppard@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
news:1152549649.084584.280030@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
whitey wrote:
it seems to like the end times are near. i am a new christian and a
friend asked me what the bible says will happen in the final days of
earth. i could not give her a detailed answer. could someone help me
out with this please..
No one knows; and according to Jesus, no one will ever know. Let's see
what Jesus said about it as reported by Mark 13:
7: "When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such
things must happen, but the end is still to come."
8: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There
will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the
beginning of birth pains."
When it comes, it will be the end of the world and no one on the planet
earth can survive. Here's what Jesus said:
24: "But in those days, following that distress, 'the sun will be
darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
25: "the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be
shaken."
But when it's all going to happen, no one knows:
32: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
33: "Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come."
So don't pay attention to all those false prophets screaming that they
can see the signs of the coming tribulation. Forget about the
Evangelical heretics quoting from the Old Testament. Jesus stated
emphatically that no one will know. Jesus rejected the Old Testament
tripe, as so should all good Christians.
Speaking of tripe...
1) Jesus did say that we would know the season, adjuring us to keep the
faith all the more.
2) Jesus didn't reject the Old Testament--He relied on it. In fact, He
didn't just rely on it--He gave it to us.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
ok. seems to be varying views on this topic. i think i will remain
faithful, pray and stay in the Word.
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| User: "Code Programmer" |
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| Title: Re: end times |
11 Jul 2006 12:44:15 AM |
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Hi Whitey
This is a post to Ike, just to show that he assumes much when he says I
don't know, as he attacks me with insults. Below his writings is a summary
of the context and principles "keys" to kingdom of heaven as my walk and
seeking with all my heart have found in my search for the truth which sets
us free, to truly find God.
It is important for it shows the attitude we need to have to get the truth
from what is written. For a different attitude will give different meaning
to the consistent message of Jesus, about love and responsibility for our
actions, with the need for understanding what we are doing and why.
You decide, between my words and Ike's and see which is closer to Jesus
ways.
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:74-dnYGyu5RaDS_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Code Programmer" <raymokeeffe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8tvmq$fch$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
The true reason that you disrespect me are two fold...
1. It contradicts your books, so it would seem, even your whole beliefs
about these.
2. You cannot understand my stuff because it requires some thinking, and
not just being taught traditional teachings.
No, the reason I disrespect you is your sayings are silly and trite, and
totally off-task with the message Jesus was conveying, hence, they are not
just wrong, but spiritually irresponsible, and nothing with which any
Christian should associate themselves.
Jesus message was a different thing to what is being preached in dogmas of
the churches. The psychology is all wrong.
Jesus came to give us life and life more abundantly and tell us the truth to
release us from the bondage of dead blind religion doing meaningless things
in God's name, including their prayers and devotions.
If we despise ourselves as religion taught to hate the very flesh itself,
then we are NOT The CLEAN which God has made Clean. In fact it's the exact
opposite and so there is not the life we should have. We need to see
ourselves as holy and therefore "be" as in behave holy. They psychology of
being clean is that we no longer are judging others and having it all effect
our judgements.
Jesus didnt come to judge. He only judged when there was an obvious need to
something which stood out.
Psychologically, if we have our own issues, and we do not resolve them, we
will see them in others and not deal with our own. In doing so we say, let
me take the speck out of your eye, and not see the log in our own. The log
which is distorting our perception of the truth. That which we despise in
others, is often our own issue.
He said the world hated me and they will hate you to. That world was the
Jews, the religious people so full of venom for anything which is different
to their dogma.
The ***** is religion. And it will be destroyed. It started in Babylon which
means Gateway to Heaven. They tried build a tower and it was destroyed Gen
11:9, book end of 911, and even Rev 9:11 the destroyer.
There is only one way to God, that is Jesus way, which is truth and brings
life. Through the heart of hearts in spirit and in truth. He told the woman
at the well. There was not need for a temple, it was one on one in spirit
and truth. God's most fervant even jealous desire is our hearts to be after
Him and His ways, which are life to those which practice them.
Consider every word Jesus said. And ONLY HIS WORDS, and you are closer to
the truth and further from the interpretation of them by religious biases.
Surely you know about biases. It is LIFE 101, coz everyone has them.
There are absolute truths and relative truths. Trouble with religion is they
think the relative truths are the absolute truths and their context is
wrong.
Jesus summed it all up in 2 rules.
Love God with your whole being.
Love your neighbour as yourself.
This is the WHOLE LAW and the prophets. BUT, you must understand it.
And the best way to do that is with the fundamental truth law of the
universe which Jesus mentions, and also so do all the mystics of the EAST
and even Science. Sow and Reap, Cause and Event, Equal and opposite
reactions.
So we need to sow good and not evil. Kindness and not its opposite, etc...
Because we are responsible for it. We make it happen. Even provoke trouble
as some do by their attitudes, words and deeds.
The search for truth will show this LAW the root of all the reasons why
everything else is and does what it does. All are bound by this LAW even
GOD.
Once that is realized, then the rest of Scriptures can be interpretted in
the correct context. And those which are words mingled by opinions of
dysfunction and ignorant men (with good intentions) stand out as being
different.
So it is important, VERY IMPORTANT to understand what we are sowing and what
the chain reaction results will come to pass as reapings. So if we know that
we sow trouble and get trouble we dont do it. We know if we sow peace and
kindness that we get it back, so we do it. Behold Jesus said, I give you the
keys to the kingdom of heaven. That kingdom is in your hearts and minds.
So we love God and are accountable to Him. This is important for we need to
be growing to be more godlike in our thinking. Trouble is, many think God is
mean and nasty and unjust as they justify in their ignornace killing in the
name of God.
But those which know their God know that He loves all. He hates bad deeds,
no people. If this is not realized, then religion has blinded the truth from
being seen.
To challenge the bible is not to challenge God.
The truth leads us to God, if we seek Him with all our hearts.
I have broken free from Religion. From Catholicism and from Pentecostal
ideas.
I have looked for truth and searched for it with all my heart.
There is one principle involved. Consistency.
God must be consistent. The bible's version of God is not. Jesus version of
representation of God, saying those who have seen me have seen the Father,
is consistent with LOVE and Compassion. Even understanding the ignorant do
the best they can be.
Consider Jesus was trying to correct them. Most of them outwardly kept the
law, but inwardly they had not changed. Inwardly they commited murder and
adultery. He pointed out if you think you go to hell for that, then consider
you are doing it in your minds already and are just as guilty.
God wants us to win.
God has washed us clean, so we dont have "be made clean" by our own.
However as clean as we are, perfect in Jesus Blood, we are not perfect in
mind. That is the growth where we are transformed by the renewing of our
minds. Where we learn an education about God, from our own understanding
putting it together. For if we do not understand, then we are in principle
just another blind follower.
The principle of perfect love casts out all fear, is that we do not fear God
any more, as we know He loves us. We come to understand Him and His
character, and His ways. We know they are for the best and bring life to all
who do them.
We are judged still on our deeds. For the work within us of God's Holy
Spirit, is one which will manifest in acts of LOVE towards our fellow man.
As with the Good Samaritan, a gentile, which God used to help another human
being with compassion. As Jesus said, what so ever you do to the least you
do unto God.
And it is not I which do these, but the Father (God) within me, which does
these things.
The dogma inherited from Catholicism tends to put people in a mindset to
miss these things, as the point of view is so different. A different point
of view means a different interpretation. We need to explore many points of
view, or we will not be any wiser. And there are as many points of view as
there are people. Hence humbleness is having ears to hear and eyes to see.
For those who have more shall be given, and to those who do not have, even
what they "thought" had will be taken away from them.
And now we come to the world and the seeds of Jesus teachings go out to the
ends of the earth. And how now those seeds are preaching back to the Jews,
as it is prophesied.
The second coming is something which happens when men are ready for it. It
is the Millenium of Peace ruled by Jesus. Satan is locked up for this
duration. And surprise surprise, we are all better off for him being out of
the way. As soon as he is released after the 1000 years, they again take up
weapons and pursue violence and war. That is those which are prone to such
things because of their own issues.
A Rabbi said, Messiah will come when we get on our hands and knees and beg
him to come.
The point we need to want him. We need to want the Prince of Peace. We need
to want peace. Do not be deceived by war. Jesus rebuked Peter for using
violence. He said, if my kingdom were of this world, then my servants would
be fighting so that I would not be delivered up to the Jews.
The violent will be killing each other off in the worst times the earth has
experienced for human sufferings called the Great Tribulation.
Christianity in God's name is killing people.
Triggering people's outrage by insulting them. Who sowed it? Who is
accountable?
To do war in God's name is antichrist.
Now we come to the WAR of JESUS. It is a spiritual war.
The very presence of the glory of God radiating from him will make the
darkness flee in the light. This is not physical violence. It is the
judgement of God's presence in His Full Glory. In order to stand in the
Glory of God, we need to be like Him.
The Two Witnesses are strongly anointed. Their protection is the presence of
God's glory (Olive Oil is the Holy Spirit, lamp is the Holy Spirit). Those
which seek to harm them are killed by fire from their mouths. Original word
says literally lightning. This is the same as the princple of electricity in
physics, even lightning jumping between two opposite charges. Likewise if we
are more like God we can come into His presence. If we are not, then we will
suffer torment as we smoke up.
Note in Daniel 7, the glory of God is compared to fire flowing from the
throne.
It is fire if you are not worthy. God makes us worthy, we simply accept it
as a gift. If we judge others, we come under judgment. It's between them and
God. This was the main problem in Jesus day, they were judging each other.
God says He hates that.
Finally, Hatred!!!
Hatred must be seen in perspective. The emotion is negative energy and it
destroys and consumes. This is not what it means to hate something in a
godly way. God does not hate like this. For it would consume Him. Satan does
hate like this, and it makes him stink with rott. Hated in humans kills them
with eating at their parts as cancers.
Those who have been healed by God from cancer, know that they had to release
forgiveness and no longer hate.
True hatred of evil, is to actually feel nothing for it. To feel good for
holy and good on one hand, and the opposite is to feel nothing for it. To
feel hatred for it is to be sucked into the cycle where it taints you.
These are the teachings of the overview of the bible. Yes there are more,
but unless you use this principle point of view, you will not find the truth
and be set free. For the law without the "Spirit" of the law, is death. With
the Spirit, it guides us to life, even eternal life, for God makes it so.
In our ignorance with the best of intentions we can do much harm. But God
weighs hearts and it is this what He judges us by. We do the best we know
how. Jesus died so that ALL MANKIND may come back to God.
To think that religion represents God when they shove Jesus down our throats
so self righteously, and dont even know the truth themselves as I have
mentioned above, is not rejecting God.
Satan is the one who wants us to fear. Satan is the one which wants us to
grovel on our faces before him in worship.
God just wants our hearts to be in constant desire for Him. To love Him
dearly in all our ways . This is spiritual worship in spirit and in truth
which Jesus told the woman at the well in John 4. No temple. Indeed we are
the temple. He dwells in our hearts. That is the door, our hearts, Jesus
showed us the way, his way, to guide us there.
Consider Cornelius the Roman. He didnt know of Jesus only of John the
Baptist. Yet the spirit was working with him, and sent him the disciple to
give him more in God. His heart was already in the right place. Amen.
So Ike, if you say this is rubbish, you will lose so much credibility.
You do not know me, God does. You do not know what I know, God does.
Jesus is real, evidence for birth, death, fitting together with astronomy
signs and more.
911 an ATTENTION SIGN forknew by God and worked into His plan.
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PEace
Ray
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