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: > : > "Mistylien" <yardholler@charter.net> wrote in message
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: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : > : > The Church is Pauls religion and the church is that which Jesus
came
: > to
: > : > set
: > : > : > up.....but the elect were fooled.....
: > :
: > : THE ELECT ARE NEVER FOOLED!
: > Yes the disciples in the end werent foolled they did see through Paul
and
: > for a while sent others with Paul to keep and eye on him.
: > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : The whole 2 witnesses (Bible) were sent to the whole world
: > : > : > : Not just the prophets.
: > : > : > : I think that the prophesies are way to big and too deep for
you to
: > : > really
: > : > : > : decipher.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > I do remember what your thoughts on the prophecies are....
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : I see many in the News Groups have little real understanding
of
: > just
: > : > : > : how to wisely decode the Bible prophesies correctly so they
: > : > : > : fit in any historic timeline.
: > : > : > : The Prophesies must be deciphered using the Bible itself.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > And just as you state the bible will also show you the reason
for
: > every
: > : > : > discrepency within it....and point to the truth...... Paul was
the
: > false
: > : > : > prophet that Jesus warned about.
: > : > :
: > : > : You keep saying that but it was Jesus that converted Paul to be
His
: > : > messenger
: > : > : to the Gentiles.
: > : >
: > : > Where are Pauls witnesses to the converstion?
: > : > Paul states staes that satan can transform himself into an angel of
: > : > light.......where is there a reference to this? There is nowhere
else in
: > the
: > : > bible anywhere that tells us this. Is it possible that he is
referring
: > to
: > : > the light that he saw on that road to Damascus?
: > :
: > : No not at all he was refering to one that would stand up and even
take
: > : the place of Jesus Christ and be believed by all that fallow him or
it.
: >
: > You idid mnot answer the question. Where did Paul get the idea that
satan
: > could appear as an angel of light?
:
: Paul when he was Saul knew very well the Old testament laws and the
prophets
: way better they you and I know them today for he was a Lawyer of that
time
: and he was following the law to the letter.
: That is why he was going arouund Killing and persicuting those that
: were followeing "THE WAY".

That did not answer the question. Where did Paul get the idea that satan
could be transformed as an angel of light?

: > :
: > : > Why is it that Jesus never told us of another great teacher who was
: > coming
: > : > to tell us how to worship? Yet he told us of false prophets who
would
: > be so
: > : > convincing that they would even decieve the elect.
: > :
: > : That one that was to come would dedieve the "ELECT IF IT WERE
POSSIBLE"
: > : but it is not possible!
: > Again you are right the disciples saw PAul for what he was....a liar.
:
: Please give book chapter and verse where you discover this.


There is plenty of inference in the book of Acts and what Paul himself was
saying.
Have you never compared the Acts with Pauls version of events?


:
: >
: > : It is called the "BEAST" in Revelation even a woman that rides on that
: > beast.
: >
: > I believe the woman to be Lydia......have you ever wondered who the
Jezabel
: > was?
:
: Jesabel is a woman too from the old testament books if you read that you
: may see the story about her and that woman that Rode on the Beast is
: a prophecy of a church that would be in on the reign of the Beast as the
: religeous faction of that government.
: The Woman (church sect) was what is known as the "PAPACY"!
: Today it calles it self a christian church to fool its patrons and it is
doing
: a very good job of it. How ever it has a history of murdering milioins of
: Christians and Jews from it inception to today.

The letters were written to REAL people in REAL churches...you do realize
that dont you?
They were not written to a generation of people far into the future.....if
this were hte case it would have been a collective letter dont you think?
And please no crap about *church ages*.
The people those letters were writtine to knoew exactly who Jesus was
referring to.....they must have other wise it doesn't make sense. Having
said that, there must have been at that time a woman who reflected the
teaching of Jezabel.And that was Lydia....have you ever looked at
Lydia......know her and will see Jezabel...oh I know she is not mentioned
often in the bible but what is there is enough.

:
: The officers of that religion are all Antichristian. also known as
: wolves in sheeps clothing.

No I not going to disagree with you regarding the RCC. It is pure evil. They
are the modern day Pharisees......
But every denomination one the face of the earth have it wrong.......every
religon.

: >
: > :
: > : If he/it does decieve then those decieved are not the elect but sheep
: > being
: > : led to the slaughter.
: >
: > Well get out of the line up!
:
: What is that suppose to mean?

If you dont want to be slaughtered dont be led that way.
Jesus said *I am the way the Truth and the Life* John 14:5-7......yet you
put more emphasis on Pauls teachings than Jesus'.
Paul said follow me, llisten to me. If angels of the other apostles come to
tell you anything different dont listen to them.
Peter said......
1 Pet.2[21] For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered
for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:[22] Who did
no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:


: > :
: > : There is a whole 2,000 years of history to see who that or they are
: >
: > Pity you cant follow the trail
:
: They can not fool me but all they can do is persicute me and try to shut
me
: up. and they have tried very hard to do it too.
:
: I do follow their trail of blood and murder all through out history.

And what exactly are you saying that causes this persecution and by whom are
you persecuted?

:
: > : > :
: > : > : The false prophet is the one that preaches for the 1260 prophetic
days
: > : > : It is his office that you should be concerned with as the
Pretender
: > : > : Christ in fact whom ever takes that office become the Antichrist.
: > : >
: > : > Pretender Christ. Hmmm and you dont think this sounds like Paul?
: > :
: > : No not at all Paul was choosen to build the new temple of believers
: > : and his epistles do that very well.
: >
: > Be ye followers of me......?????
: > :
: > : Each of his letters/epistles are addressed to the Real Christian
Church in
: > : the different lands that they were residing in.
: > : Like the book of Romnas Pauls says in the first 7 verses who it is to
and
: > : it is not to the govenment of Rome but to t he Christian Church that
just
: > : happens to be in Rome.
: > : As with all of his following letter in the first 2 verses it tell who
the
: > : letters are to You may have to read the first 2 versses of them to
see
: > : what I am talking about.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > 1 Cor.4
: > : > [16] Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
: > : > [17] For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my
beloved
: > son,
: > : > and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my
: > ways
: > : > which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
: > : >
: > : > God sent Jesus, His beloved Son. Paul sent Timothy, HIS beloved son.
: > :
: > : I think Timotheus paul considered his son but he was not his blood
son
: > but his
: > : son by belief in Jesus Christ to do the will of God not his own will
and
: > : Paul recognized that and beheld him as his son in the faith.
: > : as I consider you a sister in the faith and I our brother.
: > : We are all one family With God as the Father.
: > : >
: > : > 1 Cor. 11
: > : >
: > : > [1] Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
: > : > [2] Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things,
and
: > keep
: > : > the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
: > : >
: > : > Phil.3
: > : >
: > : > [17] Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk
so
: > as
: > : > ye have us for an ensample.
: > : >
: > : > Mark them????
: > :
: > : Yes mark them just as I have marked you to be also one of us in the
faith
: > and
: > : I am sharing with you my faith as well as you are sharing you
: > misconceptoins
: > : of Paul with me.
: > : I hope you are about to mark me as your brother in the faith as well.
: >
: > Oh come on surely its starting to register with you by now?
: > Can you really continue to defend Paul?
: > No I shant be marking you......
:
: Ok so you are not interested in any comon sence reasoning
: I guess you problem is too big for me to try to take care of.

When you give me some common sense reasoning then maybe I will be
interested.
I am not the one with a problem Misty.......
:
: > :
: > :
: > : You see the Gentile world for all the time before Jesus coming were
on
: > the
: > : out side looking in but now we too are in the drivers seats to usher
in
: > : Jesus coming and to help build up his building that He has been
building
: > : for the last 2,000 years from the very day He came out of the grave
and
: > : talked top Mary magdala to be choosen to be the first building
: > : block of he Bride of the lamb.
: >
: > Woops Paul says Jesus was seen by Cephas first.......no mention of MM.
:
: Book Chapter and verse please if you have it that is.

I thought you knew the bible?
1 Cor 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
according to the scriptures: 5And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the
twelve:

No mention of Mary or the other women at all......
: > .
: > : John 20:10-18.
: 10Then the disciples went back to their homes, 11but Mary stood outside
the tomb crying. As she
: wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12and saw two angels in white,
seated where Jesus'
: body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
: 13They asked her, "Woman, why are you crying?"
:
: "They have taken my Lord away," she said, "and I don't know where they
have put him." 14At
: this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not
realize that it was Jesus.
:
: 15"Woman," he said, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?"
: Thinking he was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him
away, tell me where
: you have put him, and I will get him."
:
: 16Jesus said to her, "Mary."
: She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, "Rabboni!" (which
means Teacher).
:
: 17Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the
Father. Go instead to
: my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father,
to my God and your
: God.' "
:
: 18Mary Magdalene went to the disciples with the news: "I have seen the
Lord!" And she told them
: that he had said these things to her.
:
: If you have a Bible it is best if you just take some time to look up
: T he passages we show you.
:
: but I see you are not really interested I think you are just being a troll

Are you kidding me?

:
: > : and
: > : Luke 24 the whole chapter.
: > : >
: > : > 1 Thes.1
: > : >
: > : > 6] And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received
the
: > word
: > : > in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost:
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > I believe Paul knew he was being used by satan but had no control
over
: > it.
: > :
: > : HE had been used by satan before God opened his eyes as God opens our
: > : eyes one at a time. For before we were believers we too were lost in
the
: > : world of unbelieves. HOwever Saul was againt the WAY and was
doing
: > : much dammage to the New Believers until Jesus grabed him and shook
some
: > : sence into him.
: > : From then on He was a believer and a member also of the WAY.
: >
: > Satan attacked from within.....just as one would expect.
:
: Those that The Lord chooses no one and pluck from him.


So why do you have a beef with the RCC church....how did you discern that
those who chose the Roman Catholic faith were not chosen by The Lord?
:
: >
: > Wow you make loving God such hard work.....let it go.....it's really
: > simple....no mumbo jumbo....love God.
:
: You can not love God until you Know His Son Jesus Christ.
: Jesus is the one you must find first before you can even approach God
: the Father.
:
: First you must stop crucfying him by desecrating His Written Word.

Where did I say that I dont know Jesus?
Where have I rejected anything Jesus said?

:
: > : >
: > : > Consider that the so called Christians of Paul are not the ones
given
: > the
: > : > warnings in Rev.Consider that the Roman Catholic church condemned to
: > death
: > : > many*heretics* who were considered Christians.Consider the reasons
they
: > were
: > : > being murdered. What were they saying that was so blasphemous.
: > : > The antichrist was to recieve a wound and die and rise
again......right?
: > : > Consider the story of Pauls stoning. That doesn't bother you?
:
: Where did you get Pauls Stoning From. Book Chapter and verse please?

You did say you had studied the bible didn't you?


:
Acts 14:19And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and