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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
Date: 21 Oct 2007 08:44:41 AM
Object: ETERNAL Life, Part 4
Luke 18:29-30 - "I tell you the truth," Jesus said to them, "no one
who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the
sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in
this age and, in the age to come, eternal life." (NIV)
Note 1: Jesus begins by saying, "I tell you the truth." This is His
way of saying, "Listen up, this is absolutely true."
Note 2: Jesus says "NO ONE" who left all for God "WILL FAIL" to
receive "ETERNAL" life. Thus, if anyone were to have surrendered
their life to God (at any time) were to go to hell, Christ would be a
liar, and He just told you that He tells the truth. Thus, NO ONE, who
has so surrendered to Christ, WILL FAIL to receive ETERNAL (does not
end) life.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
.

User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: ETERNAL Life, Part 4 21 Oct 2007 05:48:31 AM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1192974281.257260.231320@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

Luke 18:29-30 - "I tell you the truth," Jesus said to them, "no one
who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the
sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in
this age and, in the age to come, eternal life." (NIV)

Note 1: Jesus begins by saying, "I tell you the truth." This is His
way of saying, "Listen up, this is absolutely true."

Note 2: Jesus says "NO ONE" who left all for God "WILL FAIL" to
receive "ETERNAL" life. Thus, if anyone were to have surrendered
their life to God (at any time) were to go to hell, Christ would be a
liar, and He just told you that He tells the truth. Thus, NO ONE, who
has so surrendered to Christ, WILL FAIL to receive ETERNAL (does not
end) life.

Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com

Christians totally base their faith on the Bibles.
The Bibles are nothing more than books of myths, fables, contradictions,
human and animal sacrifices, genocide, slaveholding, misogyny, destruction,
barbarisms, and impossible tales. They are not accurate history and
certainly are not the words of any god unless he is an insane and totally
untrustworthy monster. They are not even good fiction.
The average person today does not appreciate the difficulty and unlikelihood
of producing accurate transmissions of the original Bibles. Firstly there
are NO ORIGINALS in existence. They are all copies of copies of unknown
accuracy.
One of the problems with the accuracy of the Bibles is that when they were
copied, no marks of punctuation were used, no distinction was made between
lower case and upper case letters and more bizarre to modern script, no
spaces were used to separate words.
This kind of continuous writing was called "scriptuo continua"
'godisnowhere' could mean 'god is now here' or quit the opposite, 'god is no
where' depending on the spacing which not used at the time. This left
accurate interpretation very unlikely if not impossible.
Add to this the natural occurrence of errors of transmission and the
intentional modification to suite the transcribers wishes and beliefs and
you have documents of highly questionable meaning and very poor accuracy.
Further compounding the problem was the size and accuracy of the
vocabularies were much more limited than today. And they were written before
the modern dictionaries so there was much conflict between the meaning of
words.
The Bibles are a foundation of quicksand. There are NO ORIGINALS in
existence. Why would not any 'real' God protect the originals??? What are
available are altered copies of copies by unknown men of questionable
veracity. The books of the Bibles were written over 1,000 years before the
invention of the printing press. Even the so called originals were
supposedly written by 50 or more different authors of unknown veracity. They
are biased by, and dependent on the writings and opinions of the clergy. And
the status and survival of the clergy is totally dependent on their follower's
belief in their Bible stories. There are 18 different English versions alone
and there is no way of knowing how far they have wondered from the
originals.
And there is no evidence that even the originals are anything more than
inaccurate fiction.
Basing ones life and faith on these documents is not very sound reasoning.
It is the equivalent of depending on the good luck of a rabbits foot.
.
User: "Anti-Venom"

Title: Re: ETERNAL Life, Part 4 22 Oct 2007 08:35:12 AM
On Oct 21, 5:48 am, "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1192974281.257260.231320@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...



Luke 18:29-30 - "I tell you the truth," Jesus said to them, "no one
who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the
sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in
this age and, in the age to come, eternal life." (NIV)


Note 1: Jesus begins by saying, "I tell you the truth." This is His
way of saying, "Listen up, this is absolutely true."


Note 2: Jesus says "NO ONE" who left all for God "WILL FAIL" to
receive "ETERNAL" life. Thus, if anyone were to have surrendered
their life to God (at any time) were to go to hell, Christ would be a
liar, and He just told you that He tells the truth. Thus, NO ONE, who
has so surrendered to Christ, WILL FAIL to receive ETERNAL (does not
end) life.


Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com


Christians totally base their faith on the Bibles.

The Bibles are nothing more than books of myths...

Of course, you have proof of this? No.

of producing accurate transmissions of the original Bibles. Firstly there
are NO ORIGINALS in existence. They are all copies of copies of unknown
accuracy.

"UNKNOWN accuracy" Your own words are against you, and I'll end
here. You admit you don't know they are false, while I believe they
are true.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
.



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