Religions > Bible > Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong
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12 May 2005 04:55:13 PM |
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Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
The new Pope has been calling on a wayward Europe to go back to its
Christian roots. 1700 years ago, the Catholic Church imposed Jewish
roots, religion and culture on Europe with a theocratic tyranny that
lasted to the time of the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment philosophers
went back to Roman and Greek roots to laid the basis for modern
European governments and scientific attitudes. In religion, most were
Deists, which is similiar to the best of Roman and Greek religion, the
philosophical schools. The Pope would have a better chance to
re-establish a medieval theocrcy in the United States, where the core
group of the country's dominant political party is already working on
it.
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| User: "Mani Deli" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
13 May 2005 09:28:00 AM |
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On 12 May 2005 14:55:13 -0700, wrote:
The new Pope has been calling on a wayward Europe to go back to its
Christian roots. 1700 years ago, the Catholic Church imposed Jewish
roots, religion and culture on Europe with a theocratic tyranny that
lasted to the time of the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment philosophers
went back to Roman and Greek roots to laid the basis for modern
European governments and scientific attitudes. In religion, most were
Deists, which is similiar to the best of Roman and Greek religion, the
philosophical schools. The Pope would have a better chance to
re-establish a medieval theocrcy in the United States, where the core
group of the country's dominant political party is already working on
it.
I rarely compliment a statement. Yours has clarity and is the perfect
retort to those ignorant of history who claim Europe for Christianity.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 05:33:56 PM |
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Prayer For The Church Unity:
Heavenly Father, we have all sinned. In some way we are responsible
for Christian disunity. Teach us to embrace together the life and
teachings of your Son.
Lord Jesus, make me more Christ-like, so that by my prayers and good
works I may be a help to full unity among all who call on the Name of
Jesus.
Spirit of Love and Unity, give us a change of heart, that we might
bridge the gaps that separate us and surmount the barriers that divide
us.
Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us -- pray for the unity of all
Christian people. Amen.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 05:56:54 PM |
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<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115937236.130943.325300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Prayer For The Church Unity:
Heavenly Father, we have all sinned. In some way we are responsible
for Christian disunity. Teach us to embrace together the life and
teachings of your Son.
Lord Jesus, make me more Christ-like, so that by my prayers and good
works I may be a help to full unity among all who call on the Name of
Jesus.
Spirit of Love and Unity, give us a change of heart, that we might
bridge the gaps that separate us and surmount the barriers that divide
us.
Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us -- pray for the unity of all
Christian people. Amen.
Amazing! My tape recorder can repeat things too.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 07:27:15 PM |
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wrote:
Prayer For The Church Unity:
Heavenly Father, we have all sinned.
I have not sinned. Your god is a fraud.
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Dave
.....If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones - Carl Sagan, 1987.
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 06:44:12 PM |
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Prayer For The Church Unity:
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The outrageous failed prophecy of Jesus
that he'd preside over the end of the world
and judgment day itself 1930 years ago.
William C. Barwell 3-16-05
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Jesus prophecied he'd preside over the end of
the world (Matthew 24:3) and judgment day itself,
(Matthew 16:27-8), he claims he will "come in his
kingdom"and "reward all men according to their
acts".
This is expanded on in Matthew 25:31-45.
He will come in the glory of his angels,
he will be "the King". He will ascend to his
"throne of glory" and gather the nations.
He will sort the "sheep" from the "goats" the
good from the evil. Good will be rewarded with
eternal life in heaven, evil will depart into
"everlasting fire prepared for the devil and
his apostles" (Matthew 25:41)
This is what he means by come in his kingdom.
He will literally be "the King" of the world,
And will preside over judgment day itself.
(Matthew 25:31-34), (John 5:23, 5:27).
When? Matthew 16:27-8 has Jesus assuring his
listeners that "some standing here" will live
to see this all happen. See also Mark 9:1.
Matthew 24-5 is one long pericope. A narrative.
Here we are assured that this will happen in
"this generation", Matthew 24:36, see also Luke
21:32, and Mark 13:30.
This generation will see the sun and moon fail, the
stars fall from heaven. Then Jesus will descend with
his fathers angels and "clouds of heaven".
"This generation" is to see this. Again, Matthew 24,
Mark 13, Luke 21.
He tells the high priest at Jerusalem that he
too will see Jesus descend with "clouds of heaven"
the same phrase he tells us "this generation"
is to see in Matthew 24:36. See also Mark 14:62.
This phrase "clouds of heaven" of Matthew 26:64
and Mark 14:62 thus pins down the happenings of
Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 to be seen in the
times of "this generation" as being seen by then
living high priest, and "Some standing here".
Not some generation 1930 years later.
The "high priest", "this generation", "Some standing
here" did not see these things happen as prophecied.
No religion has ever failed as spectacularly in its
'prophecies' as has Christianity.
This also puts an end to Revelations, all of that
too was to have taken place some 1930 years ago.
Christianity thus is incredibly irrelevant to anything,
having utterly failed in the main claim of Jesus,
when none of this happened as prophecied, by Jesus,
alledged god himself according to many trinitarian
Christians.
If Jesus, supposed son of god was so wrong on this,
his main claim, he isn't going to be right on anything
else. This is the most obvious failed 'prophet' and
the most failed religion of all time. And its finally
time to admit these facts.
(End)
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 06:16:35 PM |
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In article <1115937236.130943.325300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> writes:
Prayer For The Church Unity:
Heavenly Father, we have all sinned. In some way we are responsible
for Christian disunity. Teach us to embrace together the life and
teachings of your Son.
Lord Jesus, make me more Christ-like, so that by my prayers and good
works I may be a help to full unity among all who call on the Name of
Jesus.
Are we guessing that God never thought of this idea, and trying
to bring it to His attention? Or that He didn't hold out too
much hope for it, but you're trying to convince Him that He's
wrong on this?
Or is it more like God checks the polls, and modifies His
actions according to the number of folks who'd like Him
to encourage unity?
-- cary
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| User: "Mani Deli" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
13 May 2005 09:23:58 AM |
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On 12 May 2005 15:33:56 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Prayer For The Church Unity:
Heavenly Father, we have all sinned. In some way we are responsible
for Christian disunity. Teach us to embrace together the life and
teachings of your Son.
God hasn't done a damned thing since he was invented. History shows
that once a schism occurs it remains. This is because one man's
invented beliefs are another man's *****.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Europe went back to its roots in Enlightenment, Pope wrong |
12 May 2005 07:10:59 PM |
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On 12 May 2005, dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
Prayer For Religious Tolerance:
Father, we have all lied. In some way we are responsible
for religious intolerance. Teach us to embrace together the teachings
and diversity of Mankind.
Father, make me more intelligent, so that by my thoughts and good
works I may be a help to full unity among all nations.
Leaders of World Religions, give us a change of dogma, that we might
bridge the gaps that separate differing religious cults and surmount the
barriers that divide them, and lull the endless winds of war.
Mother earth, think for us -- that we may work for the unity of all
religious people. Amen.
There, that's better.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
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"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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