Religions > Bible > EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN
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"torresD" |
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31 Dec 2006 05:37:38 PM |
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EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerGuest.jhtml?itemNo=807769
The real reasons American Jews
fear conservative Evangelicals
are political and social,
not theological.
Jews are a major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Democratic Party;
evangelicals are a
major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Republican Party.
And many Jews still see evangelicals
as dumb southern rednecks.
There is a fair amount of snobbery
and even (dare I say it) bigotry,
in this stereotype.
Jews have real enemies.
The Jihad is aimed primarily at us.
So is the intifada.
And the Iranian nuclear program.
And the Hamas Charter.
Under the circumstances,
it is irresponsible and even
crazy to pick a fight over
domestic issues with our
most reliable friend.
Obviously there can
be differences over
domestic issues.
American Jews don't need to convert
to Christianity or even (God forbid)
Republicanism.
But they do need to put
first things first.
If they don't,
they may spend the next generation--
as they spent the last--
building museums to commemorate
the consequences of confused
priorities in a time of war.
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| User: "R Sweeney" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
01 Jan 2007 09:11:21 PM |
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"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6RXlh.5893$yx6.4852@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerGuest.jhtml?itemNo=807769
The real reasons American Jews
fear conservative Evangelicals
are political and social,
not theological.
Jews are a major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Democratic Party;
which is all pretty ironic considering that the Democrats are the one's who
will sell them out, and the evangelicals are the only people who can be
counted on to be in the Jews' corner until the end
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
02 Jan 2007 01:31:24 AM |
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R Sweeney wrote:
which is all pretty ironic considering that the Democrats are the one's who
will sell them out, and the evangelicals are the only people who can be
counted on to be in the Jews' corner until the end
There aren't anywhere near enough congresscritters from
heavily-Jewish, liberal congressional districts to carry support for
Israel in Washington any more; there haven't been for years. Only
thing carrying support for Israel is rednecks in Red Nation - in
districts with very few Jews, but where many of the
socially-conservative Protestant majority supports Israel as part of a
religious belief in it.
No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
02 Jan 2007 08:31:33 AM |
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<editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1167723083.917253.302390@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
R Sweeney wrote:
which is all pretty ironic considering that the Democrats are the one's
who
will sell them out, and the evangelicals are the only people who can be
counted on to be in the Jews' corner until the end
There aren't anywhere near enough congresscritters from
heavily-Jewish, liberal congressional districts to carry support for
Israel in Washington any more; there haven't been for years. Only
thing carrying support for Israel is rednecks in Red Nation - in
districts with very few Jews, but where many of the
socially-conservative Protestant majority supports Israel as part of a
religious belief in it.
Maybe they support Israel because folk like you make us realize we have to.
Some assholes still believe Evangelicals are poorly eductated hillbillies
who mary their sisters. The reality is that modern Evangelicals send their
kids to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, UCLA and other ivy league schools. There
isn't a top college in America that doesn't have an Evangelical enclave.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
31 Dec 2006 09:23:35 PM |
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torresD quoted Haaretz:
The real reasons American Jews
fear conservative Evangelicals
are political and social,
not theological.
True. When the largest branch of American Judaism (Reform) has long
been ridiculed by other American Jews as being just "the Democrat Party
with holidays," you understand why so many Jews have such deep contempt
for evangelical Protestants, for Catholics, and for other social
conservatives.
Jews are a major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Democratic Party;
False - BLACKS are. It's BLACKS who depend on the Democrat Party
for the social programs it pushes and the Republicans oppose. And it's
only BLACKS who - unlike Jews - can provide the number of votes to make
the Democrat Party even viable in presidential races and in Congress.
No $4 to park! No $6 admission! http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
31 Dec 2006 10:45:12 PM |
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On 31 Dec 2006 19:23:35 -0800, "editor@netpath.net" <editor@netpath.net>
wrote:
False - BLACKS are. It's BLACKS who depend on the Democrat Party
for the social programs it pushes and the Republicans oppose. And it's
only BLACKS who - unlike Jews - can provide the number of votes to make
the Democrat Party even viable in presidential races and in Congress.
Bull. If the only votes Democrats get are from blacks, they don't win a
single election, much less the White House.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
31 Dec 2006 11:36:27 PM |
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George Peatty quoted me:
False - BLACKS are. It's BLACKS who depend on the Democrat Party
for the social programs it pushes and the Republicans oppose. And it's
only BLACKS who - unlike Jews - can provide the number of votes to make
the Democrat Party even viable in presidential races and in Congress.
and replied:
Bull. If the only votes Democrats get are from blacks, they don't win a
single election, much less the White House.
You miss it; blacks are their only potential margin of victory.
Outside core urban Blue Nation, European-Americans just won't vote
Democrat in significant enough numbers to win a state and its electoral
votes.
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| User: "torresD" |
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| Title: Re: EVANGELICALS= Dumb Southern Rednecks - ROSNER'S DOMAIN |
31 Dec 2006 11:09:49 PM |
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerGuest.jhtml?itemNo=807769
The real reasons American Jews
fear conservative Evangelicals
are political and social,
not theological.
Jews are a major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Democratic Party;
evangelicals are a
major stakeholder
(perhaps THE major stakeholder)
in the Republican Party.
And many Jews still see evangelicals
as dumb southern rednecks.
There is a fair amount of snobbery
and even (dare I say it) bigotry,
in this stereotype.
Jews have real enemies.
The Jihad is aimed primarily at us.
So is the intifada.
And the Iranian nuclear program.
And the Hamas Charter.
Under the circumstances,
it is irresponsible and even
crazy to pick a fight over
domestic issues with our
most reliable friend.
Obviously there can
be differences over
domestic issues.
American Jews don't need to convert
to Christianity or even (God forbid)
Republicanism.
But they do need to put
first things first.
If they don't,
they may spend the next generation--
as they spent the last--
building museums to commemorate
the consequences of confused
priorities in a time of war.
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