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"IknowHimDoYou" |
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11 Dec 2003 06:12:14 PM |
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Evolution and Immorality |
Evolution and Immorality
Aldous Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley known as "Darwin's bulldog",
who advocated the drug culture and sexual permissiveness wrote:
"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently
assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find
satisfying reasons for this assumption... For myself as, no doubt, for
most of my contemporaies, the philosophy of meaninglessness was
essentially an instrument of liberation[he actually means licence]. The
liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certqain
political and economic system and liberation from a certain
system[Christian influence] of morality. We objected to the morality
because it interfered with our sexual freedom; we objected to the
political and economic system because it was unjust[meqning that we could
not do as we wished without any responsiblity or consequences]."
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial of God
and nothing else, plain and simple. Both of the Huxley's lives were
disasters so in the end they got what they wanted...but they probably did
not like what they got.
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Recte Faciendo Neminem Timeas
Is it opinion? Is it fact? Is it truth?
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
11 Dec 2003 07:14:08 PM |
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(IknowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IknowHim-1112031612140001@pm1-06.kalama.com:
Evolution and Immorality
Aldous Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley known as "Darwin's bulldog",
who advocated the drug culture and sexual permissiveness wrote:
"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently
assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find
satisfying reasons for this assumption... For myself as, no doubt,
for most of my contemporaies, the philosophy of meaninglessness was
essentially an instrument of liberation[he actually means licence].
The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a
certqain political and economic system and liberation from a certain
system[Christian influence] of morality. We objected to the morality
because it interfered with our sexual freedom; we objected to the
political and economic system because it was unjust[meqning that we
could not do as we wished without any responsiblity or consequences]."
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial of
God and nothing else, plain and simple. Both of the Huxley's lives
were disasters so in the end they got what they wanted...but they
probably did not like what they got.
Argumentum ad hominem and lies noted. Yes, teaching evolution does cause
immorality. It causes young-earth creationists to pretend that they are
actually defending Christianity by bearing false witness in God's name.
This is a VERY immoral thing to do, but you do it anyway. Apparently
finding out that Genesis is not literal history has an unbalancing effect
on certain Christians of little faith, causing them to go off the deep
end and violate many of the Master's teachings in favour of a flawed
apologetic that is rife with lies and gratuitous slanders of those
teaching science.
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "peter legge" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
16 Dec 2003 06:29:29 PM |
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
17 Dec 2003 12:03:25 AM |
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"peter legge" <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
IF that is actually true, they had much to repent at the end. They are
responsible for breaking the Church in the west (though it surely did
need reform), for redacting scripture to their personal taste and for
promulgating hatreds that resulted in a some pretty violent wars.
Luther, especially, must bear SOME, even, of the responsibility for the
disastrous episode in western history in the 1930-1945 period. Our sins
often outlive us.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
Go ahead and question them. It sounds like you have added these men to
your calendar of saints while removing just about all who went before
them. They rejected God's Church and created a new religion, in many
ways not the same as Christianity. They removed doctrines older than
Christianity from their teachings (and taught against thim), and they
rejected the authority of those whom God had placed over them in His
Church. Calvin was as quick to murder as any member of the inquisition,
too. I'm not impressed by those who worship these MEN.
That they reacted to something that was at least as bad as they were is
not, in my opinion, sufficient excuse. As human beings, doing God's
work, neither of them can hold a candle to Mohandas K. Gandhi, in my
opinion and he was a Hindu, not a Christian. But Gandhi acted LIKE
Christ to the very best of his human ability and actually died a REAL
martyr. The best you can say for these other two is that they stirred up
a nest of hornets and caused some real political change, while sowing new
hatreds.
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Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
16 Dec 2003 08:49:14 PM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, "peter legge" <peter.legge@btinternet.com>
wrote in <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
I can state with a great deal of assurance that Luther did not teach
'born again' in the modern sense that it is used. Both Luther and Calvin
made decisions that cost many lives, Luther, in particular, caused great
harm to happen to the peasants of Germany and the Jews and planted the
seeds of the Thirty Years' War. Calvin was equally difficult and
certain, possibly the reason they could not agree on how to offer a
united front to the Counter-Reformation, the beginning of true
reformation of Catholicism.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
Do you accept Calvin's teachings of predestination?
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| User: "IknowHimDoYou" |
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17 Dec 2003 10:20:31 AM |
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In article <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "peter legge"
<peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
_______________________________________________________________
Don't worry...
he will be with all his priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and popes
in the outer darkness.
And why not? They all loved the darkness in this world...
--
Recte Faciendo Neminem Timeas
Is it opinion? Is it fact? Is it truth?
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| User: "_AnonCoward" |
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18 Dec 2003 04:58:22 AM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-1712030820310001@pm6-08.kalama.com...
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: In article <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "peter legge"
: <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote:
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: > "Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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: > > Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given
: > > the devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers
: > > already disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the
: > > likes of Luther and Calvin.
: >
: > David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
: > AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
: > Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
: _______________________________________________________________
:
: Don't worry...
:
: he will be with all his priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and
: popes in the outer darkness.
:
: And why not? They all loved the darkness in this world...
"Don't worry" ... ??? This sounds like something you're looking forward
to as if it were a good thing.
Ralf
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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18 Dec 2003 07:04:24 AM |
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"_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in news:iLfEb.136830$Vu5.8474544
@twister.southeast.rr.com:
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-1712030820310001@pm6-08.kalama.com...
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: In article <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "peter legge"
: <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote:
:
: > "Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
: >
: > > Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given
: > > the devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers
: > > already disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the
: > > likes of Luther and Calvin.
: >
: > David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
: > AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
: > Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
: _______________________________________________________________
:
: Don't worry...
:
: he will be with all his priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and
: popes in the outer darkness.
:
: And why not? They all loved the darkness in this world...
"Don't worry" ... ??? This sounds like something you're looking
forward
to as if it were a good thing.
He shows his true allegiance! But then he assumes that all priests and
prelates are somehow "mine." I tend to choose my bishops with care and
have had an occasionl argument with a bishop because my doctrinal stance
was too orthodox to suit him. To quote the movie "Forrest Gump," "it
happens."
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
17 Dec 2003 01:37:40 PM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-1712030820310001@pm6-08.kalama.com...
In article <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "peter legge"
<peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and
Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
_______________________________________________________________
Don't worry...
he will be with all his priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and popes
in the outer darkness.
And why not? They all loved the darkness in this world...
--
Recte Faciendo Neminem Timeas
Is it opinion? Is it fact? Is it truth?
Tom: Yes, like the "Dark Ages" of Christian rule in the western world.
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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17 Dec 2003 11:24:13 AM |
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(IknowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IknowHim-1712030820310001@pm6-08.kalama.com:
In article <bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "peter legge"
<peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
_______________________________________________________________
Don't worry...
he will be with all his priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and
popes in the outer darkness.
And why not? They all loved the darkness in this world...
Yeah right. You wish! All you heretics will be basking in the light of
your father--the one who taught you to lie in God's name! Of course that
"light" is pretty red-shifted...might feel hot to you!
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
16 Dec 2003 11:43:40 PM |
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peter legge <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com...
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
I think it's neat how you can tell that. What do you have, a telescope
strong enough to see heaven or something?
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"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
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| User: "Michael" |
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17 Dec 2003 08:40:42 AM |
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In article <g2SDb.10452$6C7.7713@news02.roc.ny>, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
peter legge <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com...
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
I think it's neat how you can tell that. What do you have, a telescope
strong enough to see heaven or something?
Telescope not required.
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| User: "Tom" |
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17 Dec 2003 01:36:24 PM |
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"Michael" <mikeburt@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:mikeburt-1712030940460001@192.168.1.55...
In article <g2SDb.10452$6C7.7713@news02.roc.ny>, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
peter legge <peter.legge@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:bro818$dqs$1@titan.btinternet.com...
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
I think it's neat how you can tell that. What do you have, a telescope
strong enough to see heaven or something?
Burt: Telescope not required.
Tom: Tee hee hee, see it? They can't even locate it on a map. Several
thousand years ago the ancients assumed heaven was right there with the
clouds. Of course today we know that isn't so and we have seen no possible
location for heaven, But raised dead folks keep going up (wonder if they go
up in Australia) and angels keep coming down so it must be some where. Burt
really means that since heaven doesn't exist you can't see it with a
telescope.
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| User: "386sx" |
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17 Dec 2003 04:17:57 PM |
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peter legge writes:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther AND
Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour. Your
beliefs are VERY questionable!
I wouldn't cast the first stone if I were you, Mr. legge. "Woe unto you
that are http://www.microsoft.com/billgates." I'm sure you don't very much
mind making a bigger camel out of Mr. Gates, eh? After all, what is the
value of an immortal soul weighed against the price of a "good" piece of
software!
--
"If you believe what you like in the Gospel, and reject what you like - it
is not the Gospel you believe, but yourselves." - St. Agustine
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| User: "Elmer Bataitis" |
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16 Dec 2003 09:00:08 PM |
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peter legge wrote:
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
David you really must be careful in what you say because both Luther
AND Calvin were born again believers who are now with their Saviour.
Your beliefs are VERY questionable!
Speaking of questionable beliefs....
"But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not
in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ
down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to
bring up Christ again from the dead.)" ROm 10:6-7
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Planetech Services -Hobbes
585-442-2884
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| User: "Michael" |
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11 Dec 2003 10:08:48 PM |
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In article <Xns944EAF54C5A98doldridgsprintca@24.69.255.211>, Dave Oldridge
<doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com (IknowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IknowHim-1112031612140001@pm1-06.kalama.com:
Evolution and Immorality
Aldous Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley known as "Darwin's bulldog",
who advocated the drug culture and sexual permissiveness wrote:
"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently
assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find
satisfying reasons for this assumption... For myself as, no doubt,
for most of my contemporaies, the philosophy of meaninglessness was
essentially an instrument of liberation[he actually means licence].
The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a
certqain political and economic system and liberation from a certain
system[Christian influence] of morality. We objected to the morality
because it interfered with our sexual freedom; we objected to the
political and economic system because it was unjust[meqning that we
could not do as we wished without any responsiblity or consequences]."
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial of
God and nothing else, plain and simple. Both of the Huxley's lives
were disasters so in the end they got what they wanted...but they
probably did not like what they got.
Argumentum ad hominem and lies noted.
You mean that you noted the argumentum ad hominem and lies before you
state them?
Yes, teaching evolution does cause
immorality.
Wow, an admission from a fundie evolutionists.
It causes young-earth creationists to pretend that they are
actually defending Christianity by bearing false witness in God's name.
Tee hee hee, you don't like diversity, do you?
This is a VERY immoral thing to do, but you do it anyway.
Tee hee hee, commedy is not your strong suit.
Apparently
finding out that Genesis is not literal history has an unbalancing effect
on certain Christians of little faith, causing them to go off the deep
end and violate many of the Master's teachings in favour of a flawed
apologetic that is rife with lies and gratuitous slanders of those
teaching science.
Apparently finding out that tomatoe plants and giraffes may not have a
common ancestor has an unbalancing effect on certain fundie religious
evolutionists of little faith, causing them to go off the deep end and
violate many of the High Priest such as Stevie Gould's teachings in
favour of a flawed
apologetic that is rife with lies and gratuitous slanders of those
teaching the religion of evolution while trying to disguise it by calling
it science.
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the devil
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of Luther and Calvin.
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of Creation has given Christ
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already disaffected
from the pseudo scientific tyranny of the false teachings of the likes of
Gould and Darwin.
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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12 Dec 2003 01:43:55 AM |
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(Michael) wrote in
news:mikeburt-1112032308480001@192.168.1.55:
In article <Xns944EAF54C5A98doldridgsprintca@24.69.255.211>, Dave
Oldridge <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com (IknowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IknowHim-1112031612140001@pm1-06.kalama.com:
Evolution and Immorality
Aldous Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley known as "Darwin's
bulldog", who advocated the drug culture and sexual permissiveness
wrote:
"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning;
consequently assumed it had none, and was able without any
difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption... For
myself as, no doubt, for most of my contemporaies, the philosophy
of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation[he
actually means licence]. The liberation we desired was
simultaneously liberation from a certqain political and economic
system and liberation from a certain system[Christian influence] of
morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with
our sexual freedom; we objected to the political and economic
system because it was unjust[meqning that we could not do as we
wished without any responsiblity or consequences]."
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial
of God and nothing else, plain and simple. Both of the Huxley's
lives were disasters so in the end they got what they wanted...but
they probably did not like what they got.
Argumentum ad hominem and lies noted.
You mean that you noted the argumentum ad hominem and lies before you
state them?
No, I simply noted them. YOU stated them.
Yes, teaching evolution does cause
immorality.
Wow, an admission from a fundie evolutionists.
It causes young-earth creationists to pretend that they are
actually defending Christianity by bearing false witness in God's
name.
Tee hee hee, you don't like diversity, do you?
I have no problem with diversity. But I don't like blaspheming liars who
say they belong to my religion when plainly they cannot stand it.
This is a VERY immoral thing to do, but you do it anyway.
Tee hee hee, commedy is not your strong suit.
You're right. That was not a joke. Nor will it be when your demon tries
to tee hee the Lord God.
Apparently
finding out that Genesis is not literal history has an unbalancing
effect on certain Christians of little faith, causing them to go off
the deep end and violate many of the Master's teachings in favour of
a flawed apologetic that is rife with lies and gratuitous slanders of
those teaching science.
Apparently finding out that tomatoe plants and giraffes may not have
a
common ancestor has an unbalancing effect on certain fundie religious
evolutionists of little faith, causing them to go off the deep end
and violate many of the High Priest such as Stevie Gould's teachings
in favour of a flawed
apologetic that is rife with lies and gratuitous slanders of those
teaching the religion of evolution while trying to disguise it by
calling it science.
Well, for what it's worth, they may not. But the evidence so far
indicates that they most likely do. Your problem is that you can't stand
truth and can't stand the idea that you have erred. You will have to
face both when you face God.
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of evolution has given the
devil a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the Church by the false teachings of the likes of
Luther and Calvin.
Yes, I'm afraind that learning the truth of Creation has given Christ
a powerful new tool to wreak havoc on those believers already
disaffected from the pseudo scientific tyranny of the false teachings
of the likes of Gould and Darwin.
Now you go ever further, claming that Christ is a party to your lies and
blasphemy. You really are a piece of work, aren't you. The devil must
be proud of what he's done with you!
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "The_Sage" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
11 Dec 2003 07:17:46 PM |
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Reply to article by: (IknowHimDoYou)
Date written: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:12:14 -0800
MsgID:<IknowHim-1112031612140001@pm1-06.kalama.com>
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
Not a spokeperson for evolution. Try another lie.
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial of God
and nothing else, plain and simple.
Oh wow! You tried another lie already. There are lots of people who believe in
god and evolution...so how do you explain that blatent contradiction of your
bald face lies?
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| User: "Matt Silberstein matts 2nopam@ix netcom.nospamcom" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution and Immorality |
11 Dec 2003 11:17:05 PM |
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In alt.religion.christian I read this message from
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com (IknowHimDoYou):
Evolution and Immorality
Aldous Huxley, grandson of Thomas Huxley known as "Darwin's bulldog",
who advocated the drug culture and sexual permissiveness wrote:
Wow, sins of the father and all that. Do you condemn others
because their grandchild had views you don't like?
"I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently
assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find
satisfying reasons for this assumption... For myself as, no doubt, for
most of my contemporaies, the philosophy of meaninglessness was
essentially an instrument of liberation[he actually means licence]. The
liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certqain
political and economic system and liberation from a certain
system[Christian influence] of morality. We objected to the morality
because it interfered with our sexual freedom; we objected to the
political and economic system because it was unjust[meqning that we could
not do as we wished without any responsiblity or consequences]."
Taken from "Ways and Means:..."Alsous Huxley, 1937, pp 312, 316
The major purpose of teaching and beliving in evolution is a denial of God
and nothing else, plain and simple. Both of the Huxley's lives were
disasters so in the end they got what they wanted...but they probably did
not like what they got.
And what about my evangelical Christian friends who accept
evolution?
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