Religions > Bible > Expert: Haggard asked gay lover for methamphetamine in voicemails
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03 Nov 2006 03:40:45 AM |
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Expert: Haggard asked gay lover for methamphetamine in voicemails |
http://www.9news.com
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
DENVER - A nationally known voice recognition expert says he believes
voice mails left for a male escort are from a pastor in Colorado
Springs.
Mike Jones, a gay man and admitted male escort, claims he and Pastor
Ted Haggard have been having a "sexual business" relationship for the
past three years.
He also claims Haggard used methamphetamine in his presence several
times.
Thursday, Haggard took a leave of absence from the New Life Church and
resigned as president of the multi-million member National Association
of Evangelicals.
Jones provided two voice messages to 9NEWS he claims are Haggard
calling him.
The voice mails for from a man who calls himself "Art."
It should be noted Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
The first voice message, left on August 4 at 2:18 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art. Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get
any more. Either $100 or $200 supply. And I could pick it up really
anytime I could get it tomorrow or we could wait till next week
sometime and so I also wanted to get your address. I could send you
some money for inventory but that's probably not working, so if you
have it then go ahead and get what you can and I may buzz up there
later today, but I doubt your schedule would allow that unless you
have some in the house. Okay, I'll check in with you later. Thanks a
lot, bye."
The second voice message, left on August 4 at 5:10 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed
you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then
that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week
after or whenever. I will call though you early next week to see
what's most convenient for you. Okay? Thanks a lot, bye."
Jones claims Art is referring to methamphetamine in the messages.
9NEWS had a nationally known voice recognition expert, Richard
Sanders, listen to the voice mails to determine if it is Haggard.
Sanders has previously worked on such high profile cases as the
Oklahoma City bombing trial, the Columbine High School shootings, the
JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, and the Kobe Bryant case.
"This certainly sounds like the same person," said Sanders, after
listening to the voice mails.
In his final report, Sanders found that of 12 single words that were
the same on both recordings, nine of those words were perfect matches.
He also found that the entire phrase, "I don't know," was also a
precise match.
Sanders makes his decision by comparing the resonance of the voice,
the play of one's tongue and the inflection of vowel sounds.
"If we can find enough words and phrases that match then it's
generally accepted by courts that that's the same person," he said.
Haggard told 9NEWS he is prepared for the outcome of the church's
independent investigation.
After hearing about Haggard's resignation, Jones said, "I'm sad. I'm
sad for him, but we do have consequences for our actions."
Haggard is the senior leader and founder of the New Life Church. It
has 14,000 members and the church told 9NEWS that close to 2,000 of
the members are junior high, high school and college students...
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Faggard Takes It In the *****, Big Time. |
03 Nov 2006 07:43:48 AM |
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In article <nj3mk215nh8vortrb820gfrdhc461qr529@4ax.com>,
gsmith@faher4v.tv says...
http://www.9news.com
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
I'm not surprised by the charge that Faggard is gay or that he is a meth
user. His vacant stare is enough to tell you that boy ain't right in the
head. Faggard made a total ***** of himself on camera when Dawkins
interviewed him for the God Delusion and this couldn't happen to a bigger
***** than him.
--
"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort
to take away the power of rational decision, to
drain people of their free will--and a hell of a
lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in
their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all.
For most people, religion is nothing more than a
substitute for a malfunctioning brain." --Gene Roddenberry
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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| Title: Re: Faggard Takes It In the *****, Big Time. |
03 Nov 2006 08:30:55 AM |
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Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
I'm not surprised by the charge that Faggard is gay or that he is a meth
user. His vacant stare is enough to tell you that boy ain't right in the
head. Faggard made a total ***** of himself on camera when Dawkins
interviewed him for the God Delusion and this couldn't happen to a bigger
***** than him.
I wonder whether Pat Robertson is his *****.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Faggard Takes It In the *****, Big Time. |
03 Nov 2006 04:50:15 PM |
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:30:55 GMT, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <zoI2h.6$3r6.1@trndny09>
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
I'm not surprised by the charge that Faggard is gay or that he is a meth
user. His vacant stare is enough to tell you that boy ain't right in the
head. Faggard made a total ***** of himself on camera when Dawkins
interviewed him for the God Delusion and this couldn't happen to a bigger
***** than him.
I wonder whether Pat Robertson is his *****.
Did you have to?
I was eating!
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Faggard Takes It In the *****, Big Time. |
10 Nov 2006 11:29:09 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:20:15 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:30:55 GMT, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <zoI2h.6$3r6.1@trndny09>
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
I'm not surprised by the charge that Faggard is gay or that he is a meth
user. His vacant stare is enough to tell you that boy ain't right in the
head. Faggard made a total ***** of himself on camera when Dawkins
interviewed him for the God Delusion and this couldn't happen to a bigger
***** than him.
I wonder whether Pat Robertson is his *****.
Did you have to?
I was eating!
Mike Jones? Never mind, don't answer that.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: Faggard Takes It In the *****, Big Time. |
05 Nov 2006 11:15:57 AM |
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 06:43:48 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <nj3mk215nh8vortrb820gfrdhc461qr529@4ax.com>,
gsmith@faher4v.tv says...
http://www.9news.com
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
I'm not surprised by the charge that Faggard is gay or that he is a meth
user. His vacant stare is enough to tell you that boy ain't right in the
head. Faggard made a total ***** of himself on camera when Dawkins
interviewed him for the God Delusion and this couldn't happen to a bigger
***** than him.
<perk>
8-?
"Big *****"?
<tweek>
8-)
Did someone mention a "big *****"?
{8-D
Tell me, quib, what do -you- know of the details, hmmmm?
}:-?
C'mon, boy - details, details!
;-)
Mebbe' them politicos should be investigating -you-, eh?
{8-O
j/k...
};-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover the AntiTwink
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The true mark of a civilized society is that its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
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| User: "Rick" |
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| Title: Ted Haggard Confesses (was Expert: Haggard asked gay lover for methamphetamine in voicemails ) |
03 Nov 2006 03:54:04 AM |
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gsmith wrote in message ...
Posting almost on top:
I can't vouch for the veracity of this source, but it may be all over for
Ted:
http://nonprophet.typepad.com/nonprophet/2006/11/haggard_confess.html
What's sad is that he was outspoken and not stereotypically right-wing about
some inmportant issues like global warming.
http://www.9news.com
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=ac2e5ae3-0abe-421
a-002e-f8d72bfbc01f&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
or
http://tinyurl.com/yx4gvs
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
DENVER - A nationally known voice recognition expert says he believes
voice mails left for a male escort are from a pastor in Colorado
Springs.
Mike Jones, a gay man and admitted male escort, claims he and Pastor
Ted Haggard have been having a "sexual business" relationship for the
past three years.
He also claims Haggard used methamphetamine in his presence several
times.
Thursday, Haggard took a leave of absence from the New Life Church and
resigned as president of the multi-million member National Association
of Evangelicals.
Jones provided two voice messages to 9NEWS he claims are Haggard
calling him.
The voice mails for from a man who calls himself "Art."
It should be noted Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
The first voice message, left on August 4 at 2:18 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art. Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get
any more. Either $100 or $200 supply. And I could pick it up really
anytime I could get it tomorrow or we could wait till next week
sometime and so I also wanted to get your address. I could send you
some money for inventory but that's probably not working, so if you
have it then go ahead and get what you can and I may buzz up there
later today, but I doubt your schedule would allow that unless you
have some in the house. Okay, I'll check in with you later. Thanks a
lot, bye."
The second voice message, left on August 4 at 5:10 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed
you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then
that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week
after or whenever. I will call though you early next week to see
what's most convenient for you. Okay? Thanks a lot, bye."
Jones claims Art is referring to methamphetamine in the messages.
9NEWS had a nationally known voice recognition expert, Richard
Sanders, listen to the voice mails to determine if it is Haggard.
Sanders has previously worked on such high profile cases as the
Oklahoma City bombing trial, the Columbine High School shootings, the
JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, and the Kobe Bryant case.
"This certainly sounds like the same person," said Sanders, after
listening to the voice mails.
In his final report, Sanders found that of 12 single words that were
the same on both recordings, nine of those words were perfect matches.
He also found that the entire phrase, "I don't know," was also a
precise match.
Sanders makes his decision by comparing the resonance of the voice,
the play of one's tongue and the inflection of vowel sounds.
"If we can find enough words and phrases that match then it's
generally accepted by courts that that's the same person," he said.
Haggard told 9NEWS he is prepared for the outcome of the church's
independent investigation.
After hearing about Haggard's resignation, Jones said, "I'm sad. I'm
sad for him, but we do have consequences for our actions."
Haggard is the senior leader and founder of the New Life Church. It
has 14,000 members and the church told 9NEWS that close to 2,000 of
the members are junior high, high school and college students...
- Rick
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| User: "Cardinal Chunder" |
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| Title: Re: Expert: Haggard asked gay lover for methamphetamine in voicemails |
03 Nov 2006 04:18:38 AM |
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gsmith wrote:
http://www.9news.com
Voice expert believes Haggard contacted male escort
DENVER - A nationally known voice recognition expert says he believes
voice mails left for a male escort are from a pastor in Colorado
Springs.
Mike Jones, a gay man and admitted male escort, claims he and Pastor
Ted Haggard have been having a "sexual business" relationship for the
past three years.
Wow, you have to be pretty compartmentalized to rant about the sins of
homosexuality from the pulpit and then spend your leisure hours doing
drugs and fucking rent boys.
--
"Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is
true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining
lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No."
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