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"Pastor Winter JNAHC" |
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28 Nov 2004 10:51:44 PM |
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Fables replacing the Word of God |
We see false-christians posting all sorts of different "stories"
or "fables" that sound very spiritual and usually do have a
positive object lesson. But that is NOT the Gospel and the
tweaking of emotions is NOT salvation, but it is the steady diet
in many false churches.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet
colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,
having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and
filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY,
BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE
EARTH.
Pastor Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Spirit of Truth" |
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| Title: Whoops no water |
06 Dec 2004 11:00:45 PM |
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1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I
preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2by which
also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to
you-unless you believed in vain.
3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ
died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and
that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He
was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
"Heretic Winter JNAHC" <steve@prime.org> wrote in message
news:1101703768.S3gqGlV43w4Uy3B4eWL9vg@teranews...
We see false-christians posting all sorts of different "stories"
or "fables" that sound very spiritual and usually do have a
positive object lesson. But that is NOT the Gospel and the
tweaking of emotions is NOT salvation, but it is the steady diet
in many false churches.
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| User: "Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Re: Whoops no water |
07 Dec 2004 02:07:52 PM |
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"Spirit of Truth" <truth@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I
preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2by which
also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to
you-unless you believed in vain.
The belief without obedience of false-christian scums like Lance
Ferm is vain.
Matthew 15:9 {But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for]
doctrines the commandments of men.}
Mark 7:7 {Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for]
doctrines the commandments of men.}
I Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in
memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
[I hope that these verses will show that through manmade
doctrines it is possible that a persons worship could be IN VAIN,
and that a persons sincere belief could also be IN VAIN..I want
to expose the "easy believism preachers" like Lance Ferm as the
accursed satanic workers that they are.]
II Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures
more than lovers of God;
II Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power
thereof: from such turn away.
[This is a pleasure mad generation even in many so called
"churches", they "hold to the form"(in other words they go to
church they have the form or ritual) but deny the power..they
deny the power to quit sins, they deny tongues (which is the
initial power of the Holy Ghost)]
II Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses,
and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with
divers lusts,
II Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the
knowledge of the truth.
II Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do
these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate
concerning the faith.
Could the scripture be clearer regarding scum like Lance Ferm?
Matthew 7:15 {Beware of false prophets, which come to you in
sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.}
Matthew 24:11 {And many false prophets shall rise, and shall
deceive many.}
I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out
into the world.
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their work
[So Satan's ministers like Lance Ferm pretend to be Christs
ministers..and oh do they speak great swelling words that appear
so wise, and they deftly, and masterfully TWIST the scriptures,
deceiving the masses....
II Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
II Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the
truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
[We are at that place where men and women will not endure sound
doctrine, but are elevating false preachers that will just call
any doctrine "legalism" and "bondage" and will preach a fable
that everyone is going to heaven if they just "believe on the
Lord" and stuff like that, twisting and perverting the precious
word of God....But the Bible WARNED that they would come and
deceive MANY.....
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.....
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL CALL
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
(the one that they had received was Acts 2:38)
Pastor sTeve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "alt" |
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| Title: Re: Whoops no water |
08 Dec 2004 11:17:21 PM |
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Spirit of Truth wrote:
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel
which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you
stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word
which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received:
that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that
He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the
Scriptures, 5and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve.
"Heretic Winter JNAHC" <steve@prime.org> wrote in message
news:1101703768.S3gqGlV43w4Uy3B4eWL9vg@teranews...
We see false-christians posting all sorts of different "stories"
or "fables" that sound very spiritual and usually do have a
positive object lesson. But that is NOT the Gospel and the
tweaking of emotions is NOT salvation, but it is the steady diet
in many false churches.
The problem is really quite simple. It can be boiled down to one
question: Who saves? Jesus or Water Baptism?
If one claims that Water Baptism is necessary for salvation, then
Jesus isn't the saviour, Water Baptism is.
If Water Baptism is what saves, then Jesus didn't need to die and rise
again.
If Jesus didn't need to die and rise again, then all faith in him is
in vain.
This is counter to the Gospel.
The fact is, it's only by the blood of Jesus that we can be saved.
It's only through his suffering and pain that we can be cleansed from
sin and experience communion with him. Water Baptism does nothing to
our sin. It does tell the world that we have died with Jesus to
ourselves.
Romans 3:21-26 — But now the righteousness of God apart from the law
is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the
righteousness of God, through Faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on
all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and
come short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace
through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ, whom God set forth as
a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His
Righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the
sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at present time
His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one
who has Faith in Jesus.
John 19:30 — ...He said, "It is finished". And bowing His head, He
gave up his spirit.
--
Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Fables replacing the Word of God |
29 Nov 2004 12:45:24 AM |
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Pastor Winter JNAHC wrote:
We see false-christians posting all sorts of different "stories"
or "fables" that sound very spiritual and usually do have a
positive object lesson. But that is NOT the Gospel and the
tweaking of emotions is NOT salvation, but it is the steady diet
in many false churches.
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other.
They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse
and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each
sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful
nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to
its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet
colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,
having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and
filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY,
BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE
EARTH.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Fables replacing the Word of God |
29 Nov 2004 04:59:49 PM |
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Pastor Winter JNAHC wrote:
We see false-christians posting all sorts of different "stories"
or "fables" that sound very spiritual and usually do have a
positive object lesson. But that is NOT the Gospel and the
tweaking of emotions is NOT salvation, but it is the steady diet
in many false churches.
===>They are absolutely not different from the "stories" and
"fables" of the Gospels and the Bible as a whole. -- L.
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