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"jin" |
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21 Aug 2005 09:25:25 AM |
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Faith? |
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
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| User: "Tom P" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 03:27:23 PM |
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"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
What proof would be sufficient for you?
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
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| User: "VO" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 08:35:46 AM |
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"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 07:39:25 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:35:46 -0700, "VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
VO,
Which type of faith?
The measure of faith is supplied equally to all believers.
Romans 12:3 KJV
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among
you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but
to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure
of faith.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 10:17:34 AM |
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VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
===>Ah, the old "Goddidit" argument!
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 02:18:34 PM |
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VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
VO
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think much?
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| User: "VO" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 06:16:51 PM |
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"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124738314.455702.135690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
VO
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think much?
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
22 Aug 2005 09:15:02 PM |
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VO wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124738314.455702.135690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
VO
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think much?
VO
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
JERRY
Nooooo, you should pay attention to what you are saying. Let's repeat
your phrase again and then I will lay it out for you in small words
with very few syllables.
You wrote, "Faith is from God. He either gives it to you or not."
Is there more than one god? How many? Muslims have faith. Does their
faith come from the Christian god? How about Hindus? Does their faith
come from the Christian god?
It really doesn't matter what the definition of "faith" is, if "faith"
comes from god, since it all comes from god. Therefore, you need to
re-think your statement, hence my rejoinder at the end....'think much?'
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| User: "VO" |
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23 Aug 2005 08:40:33 AM |
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"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124763302.488623.200410@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124738314.455702.135690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people
still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
VO
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think
much?
VO
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
JERRY
Nooooo, you should pay attention to what you are saying. Let's repeat
your phrase again and then I will lay it out for you in small words
with very few syllables.
You wrote, "Faith is from God. He either gives it to you or not."
Is there more than one god? How many? Muslims have faith. Does their
faith come from the Christian god? How about Hindus? Does their faith
come from the Christian god?
It really doesn't matter what the definition of "faith" is, if "faith"
comes from god, since it all comes from god. Therefore, you need to
re-think your statement, hence my rejoinder at the end....'think much?'
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application, much
less three.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
23 Aug 2005 11:17:30 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:40:33 -0700, "VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124763302.488623.200410@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124738314.455702.135690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
"jin" <wormholealien59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124634325.162054.185010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Why do all you people believe in God and the bible?
After all there is no proof to support any of it!
Infact there is more proof to debunk it, yet millions of people
still
cling to the idea that a super being is wathching over us all.
Why is this?
FJ.
VO
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think
much?
VO
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
JERRY
Nooooo, you should pay attention to what you are saying. Let's repeat
your phrase again and then I will lay it out for you in small words
with very few syllables.
You wrote, "Faith is from God. He either gives it to you or not."
Is there more than one god? How many? Muslims have faith. Does their
faith come from the Christian god? How about Hindus? Does their faith
come from the Christian god?
It really doesn't matter what the definition of "faith" is, if "faith"
comes from god, since it all comes from god. Therefore, you need to
re-think your statement, hence my rejoinder at the end....'think much?'
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application, much
less three.
VO,
Faith, from pistis, is a noun. The verb form of pistis is pisteou (to
believe). God gives all of His children the same measure of faith
through which they are able to perform supernatural things.
Anyone can believe. Unbelievers can read and believe the Word of God
and appropriate the results that right believing causes to be.
Hebrews 10:38 KJV
Now the just shall live by faith: but if [any man] draw back, my soul
shall have no pleasure in him.
Hebrews 10:39 KJV
But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that
believe to the saving of the soul.
There should not have been a chapter break at verse 39 because verse
one continues the topic:
Hebrews 11:1 KJV
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things
not seen.
Hebrews 11:2 KJV
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Then it lists examples of those whose "faith" appropriated what God
had promised. If you go back to the Old Testament and read what the
people did you will see that they "believed" what God promised. So,
yes, by the noun faith Abraham obtained a good report. But the faith
was what Abraham did in response to what God said. Faith without
works is dead - it's just a noun until it becomes a verb.
Long story short, believing is obedience to God's Word. When we
believe God's Word we do it, we obey it and appropriate the results
that believing causes. God does not tell us to have blind faith. God
tells us "this is the truth" "believe and obey or act upon what I
said is truth." When Jesus would say things like "O ye of little
faith" He was referring to believing; their lack of believing
obedience to what they knew to be true or should have known to be
true.
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| User: "rogue" |
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23 Aug 2005 03:36:57 PM |
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VO wrote:
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think
much?
VO
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
JERRY
Nooooo, you should pay attention to what you are saying. Let's repeat
your phrase again and then I will lay it out for you in small words
with very few syllables.
You wrote, "Faith is from God. He either gives it to you or not."
Is there more than one god? How many? Muslims have faith. Does their
faith come from the Christian god? How about Hindus? Does their faith
come from the Christian god?
It really doesn't matter what the definition of "faith" is, if "faith"
comes from god, since it all comes from god. Therefore, you need to
re-think your statement, hence my rejoinder at the end....'think much?'
VO
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application, much
less three.
JERRY
Christians have faith. You say that faith comes from God. Muslims
also have faith, not only the fundamentalist Muslims who believe they
are martyrs when they blow themselves up, but those whose
interpretation of the text is less incendiary. Does their faith come
from God? Is there more than one god? If not, then you are saying
that ALL faith comes from one god, and that the faith of the Muslim,
the Hindu and the Buddhist is just as valid and as relevent as the
faith of the Christian.
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| User: "VO" |
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23 Aug 2005 04:23:32 PM |
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"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124829417.847391.247770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
Faith is from God.
He either gives it to you or not.
JERRY
Really? So, all those Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists all get their
faith from your god as well? What an interesting argument! Think
much?
VO
You really should find out what the varying definitions of faith are.
YOU equate it with simple belief or "a religion". The Catholics do
the
same. They refer to "their" faith.
JERRY
Nooooo, you should pay attention to what you are saying. Let's repeat
your phrase again and then I will lay it out for you in small words
with very few syllables.
You wrote, "Faith is from God. He either gives it to you or not."
Is there more than one god? How many? Muslims have faith. Does their
faith come from the Christian god? How about Hindus? Does their faith
come from the Christian god?
It really doesn't matter what the definition of "faith" is, if "faith"
comes from god, since it all comes from god. Therefore, you need to
re-think your statement, hence my rejoinder at the end....'think much?'
VO
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word
faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application,
much
less three.
JERRY
Christians have faith. You say that faith comes from God. Muslims
also have faith, not only the fundamentalist Muslims who believe they
are martyrs when they blow themselves up, but those whose
interpretation of the text is less incendiary. Does their faith come
from God? Is there more than one god? If not, then you are saying
that ALL faith comes from one god, and that the faith of the Muslim,
the Hindu and the Buddhist is just as valid and as relevent as the
faith of the Christian.
FAITH
1. A religion such as Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
2. Expectation
3. A characteristic given by the God of Abraham.
Go get an education and come back.
You keep ranting about definition number 1.
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| User: "rogue" |
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23 Aug 2005 05:22:48 PM |
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VO wrote:
VO
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word
faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application,
much
less three.
JERRY
Christians have faith. You say that faith comes from God. Muslims
also have faith, not only the fundamentalist Muslims who believe they
are martyrs when they blow themselves up, but those whose
interpretation of the text is less incendiary. Does their faith come
from God? Is there more than one god? If not, then you are saying
that ALL faith comes from one god, and that the faith of the Muslim,
the Hindu and the Buddhist is just as valid and as relevent as the
faith of the Christian.
FAITH
1. A religion such as Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
2. Expectation
3. A characteristic given by the God of Abraham.
Go get an education and come back.
You keep ranting about definition number 1.
JERRY
I have an education (Masters degree, from an accredited school and not
some jerkwater bible college, thank you very much), and I also have a
dictionary, which you apparently do not. This from http://www.m-w.com:
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
5 entries found for faith.
To select an entry, click on it.
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: 'fAth
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Old French feid, foi, from Latin
fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust -- more at BIDE
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to
one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the
traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something
for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;
especially : a system of religious beliefs
synonym see BELIEF
- in faith : without doubt or question : VERILY
Nowhere in there do I see "3. A characteristic given by the God of
Abraham."
So, I think you made that up, and I'm calling you for your cite on it,
or admit you are just blowing it out your *****. ;-)
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| User: "VO" |
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23 Aug 2005 06:50:00 PM |
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"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124835767.980308.234640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
VO
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word
faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some
the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should not
be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or application,
much
less three.
JERRY
Christians have faith. You say that faith comes from God. Muslims
also have faith, not only the fundamentalist Muslims who believe they
are martyrs when they blow themselves up, but those whose
interpretation of the text is less incendiary. Does their faith come
from God? Is there more than one god? If not, then you are saying
that ALL faith comes from one god, and that the faith of the Muslim,
the Hindu and the Buddhist is just as valid and as relevent as the
faith of the Christian.
FAITH
1. A religion such as Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
2. Expectation
3. A characteristic given by the God of Abraham.
Go get an education and come back.
You keep ranting about definition number 1.
JERRY
I have an education (Masters degree, from an accredited school and not
some jerkwater bible college, thank you very much), and I also have a
dictionary, which you apparently do not. This from http://www.m-w.com:
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
5 entries found for faith.
To select an entry, click on it.
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: 'fAth
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Old French feid, foi, from Latin
fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust -- more at BIDE
GEE, I wonder what bide means, DUHHHH
I wonder if that has any relation to abide, live, remain. DUHHH
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to
one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the
traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something
for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;
especially : a system of religious beliefs
synonym see BELIEF
- in faith : without doubt or question : VERILY
Nowhere in there do I see "3. A characteristic given by the God of
Abraham."
So God does not imbue faith. Interesting.
So, I think you made that up, and I'm calling you for your cite on it,
or admit you are just blowing it out your *****. ;-)
Apparently you can't read a dictionary.
Many atheists are graduates from very esteemed Colleges.
I said get an education.
I have all the fancy degrees you ever hoped or imagined. I also have
successfully gone through three different bible colleges (differing
theologies). I ALSO know what the words translated to "faith" contextually
mean and especially that we don't create or imagine it. If we did, we would
be absolutely no different than any other religion.
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| User: "rogue" |
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23 Aug 2005 07:10:23 PM |
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VO wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124835767.980308.234640@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
VO wrote:
VO
There are three definitions and thus three uses of the English word
faith.
Faith is not like obtuse, having relevancy to the subject. To some
the
definition of the word faith is an obtuse concept and thus should n=
ot
be
discussed.
They have a real difficulty in handling one definition or applicati=
on,
much
less three.
JERRY
Christians have faith. You say that faith comes from God. Muslims
also have faith, not only the fundamentalist Muslims who believe they
are martyrs when they blow themselves up, but those whose
interpretation of the text is less incendiary. Does their faith come
from God? Is there more than one god? If not, then you are saying
that ALL faith comes from one god, and that the faith of the Muslim,
the Hindu and the Buddhist is just as valid and as relevent as the
faith of the Christian.
FAITH
1. A religion such as Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
2. Expectation
3. A characteristic given by the God of Abraham.
Go get an education and come back.
You keep ranting about definition number 1.
JERRY
I have an education (Masters degree, from an accredited school and not
some jerkwater bible college, thank you very much), and I also have a
dictionary, which you apparently do not. This from http://www.m-w.com:
VO
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
5 entries found for faith.
To select an entry, click on it.
Main Entry: 1faith
Pronunciation: 'fAth
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Old French feid, foi, from Latin
fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust -- more at BIDE
VO
GEE, I wonder what bide means, DUHHHH
I wonder if that has any relation to abide, live, remain. DUHHH
JERRY
Why not look it up?
Main Entry: bide
Pronunciation: 'bId
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): bode /'bOd/; or bid=B7ed; bided; bid=B7ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English bIdan; akin to Old High
German bItan to wait, Latin fidere to trust, Greek peithesthai to
believe
transitive senses
1 past usually bided : to wait for -- used chiefly in the phrase bide
one's time
2 archaic : WITHSTAND <two men... might bide the winter storm -- W. C.
Bryant>
3 chiefly dialect : to put up with : TOLERATE
intransitive senses
1 : to continue in a state or condition
2 : to wait awhile : TARRY
3 : to continue in a place : SOJOURN
- bid=B7er noun
JERRY
And I *still* don't find any support for your claim that one of the
definitions is: "A characteristic given by the God of Abraham."
JERRY
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to
one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the
traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something
for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;
especially : a system of religious beliefs
synonym see BELIEF
- in faith : without doubt or question : VERILY
Nowhere in there do I see "3. A characteristic given by the God of
Abraham."
VO
So God does not imbue faith. Interesting.
JERRY
I take it that this is your admission you made it up? ;-)
JERRY
So, I think you made that up, and I'm calling you for your cite on it,
or admit you are just blowing it out your *****. ;-)
VO
Apparently you can't read a dictionary.
Many atheists are graduates from very esteemed Colleges.
I said get an education.
I have all the fancy degrees you ever hoped or imagined.
JERRY
So does Jason Gastrich, he says. However a little bit of digging shows
that he's full of hot air and doesn't have any degrees worth claiming.
VO
I also have successfully gone through three different bible colleges (dif=
fering theologies).
JERRY
That explains your lack of critical thinking skills.
VO
I ALSO know what the words translated to "faith" contextually
mean and especially that we don't create or imagine it.
JERRY
Then, with all that education you should have no problem whatsoever
providing evidence to support your claim rather than offering an
opinion as an unsupported assertion.
VO
If we did, we would be absolutely no different than any other religion.
JERRY
Psssst. Christians AREN'T any different than any other religion. You
still believe in something for which there is no evidence, just like
the Muslims, just like the Hindi.
And, you seem to have little in the way of comprehension and critical
thinking abilities when you read your own book. The bible cannot be
the word of an omnipotent, omniscient being as you claim as it fails to
be historically accurate, it fails to be prophetically correct, and it
contradicts itself within it's own pages. A book could be written
alone on the differences and problems between the book of John and the
synoptic gospels.
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| User: "VO" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
23 Aug 2005 08:07:25 PM |
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"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
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| User: "UTBill" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 09:43:38 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
The poor soul, He needs help.
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 01:36:21 PM |
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UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
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| User: "UTBill" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 02:11:01 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 04:47:32 PM |
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UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 05:00:49 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 06:09:00 PM |
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Lamey- the lame troll wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
JERRY
I'm not sure which group you are posting from, since someone has
crossposted this to tons of other groups and I just hit Reply. If you
are in alt.hacker, this this is definitely offtopic for your group.
For almost all other groups, it's on topic and therefore not a troll.
You can get a grip or get a life and if you can't find other one, use
the other hand and you might find true love. ;-)
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 09:30:35 AM |
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On 24 Aug 2005 16:09:00 -0700, wrote:
Lamey- the lame troll wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
JERRY
I'm not sure which group you are posting from, since someone has
crossposted this to tons of other groups and I just hit Reply. If you
are in alt.hacker, this this is definitely offtopic for your group.
For almost all other groups, it's on topic and therefore not a troll.
On topic? Off topic? Who cares?
You can get a grip or get a life and if you can't find other one, use
the other hand and you might find true love. ;-)
Your attempt to be witty is duly noted. Please try again and use
something original.
ok bye
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| User: "rogue" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 01:21:50 PM |
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Lamey- the lame troll wrote:
JERRY
You can get a grip or get a life and if you can't find other one, use
the other hand and you might find true love. ;-)
LAMEY
Your attempt to be witty is duly noted. Please try again and use
something original.
JERRY
You are obviously someone who can't get a grip without tweezers. Or
perhaps can't find your ***** in the dark without a flashlight and a
roadmap.
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 04:23:27 PM |
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On 25 Aug 2005 11:21:50 -0700, wrote:
Lamey- the lame troll wrote:
JERRY
You can get a grip or get a life and if you can't find other one, use
the other hand and you might find true love. ;-)
LAMEY
Your attempt to be witty is duly noted. Please try again and use
something original.
JERRY
You are obviously someone who can't get a grip without tweezers. Or
perhaps can't find your ***** in the dark without a flashlight and a
roadmap.
ME
Your obsession with my ***** is duly noted.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
24 Aug 2005 05:06:46 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 09:28:48 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:06:46 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
That's because I'm not a troll, So I guess I'm not very good at it.
Explain why you think I wouldn't make a good troll.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 10:58:49 AM |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:28:48 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:06:46 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
That's because I'm not a troll, So I guess I'm not very good at it.
Explain why you think I wouldn't make a good troll.
On topic. Not trying to instigate trouble.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 11:05:09 AM |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:49 GMT, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:28:48 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:06:46 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
That's because I'm not a troll, So I guess I'm not very good at it.
Explain why you think I wouldn't make a good troll.
On topic. Not trying to instigate trouble.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
So what's the topic? Since this was posted to my group, it's off
topic, i think.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
25 Aug 2005 08:24:46 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:05:09 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:49 GMT, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:28:48 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:06:46 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
That's because I'm not a troll, So I guess I'm not very good at it.
Explain why you think I wouldn't make a good troll.
On topic. Not trying to instigate trouble.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
So what's the topic? Since this was posted to my group, it's off
topic, i think.
Topic is faith.
free.christians is in the free hierarchy
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Lamey- the lame troll" |
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| Title: Re: Faith? |
26 Aug 2005 09:23:42 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:24:46 GMT, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:05:09 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:58:49 GMT, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:28:48 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:06:46 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:00:49 -0600, Lamey- the lame troll
<utb@utb.com> wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 14:47:32 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 11:36:21 -0700, wrote:
UTBill wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:07:25 -0700, wrote:
"rogue" <rogue719@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124842223.415332.198500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Since you are not a Christian or a Jew, you have no clue what I am talking
about or the significance of Eph 2:8-10 or of the faith referenced in
Hebrews.
Go back to the Atheist or Catholic or Mormon N.G.
I just wanted to string you along enough to prove it to everyone else.
Thanks.
It would have been easier on you just to say you have no faith and don't
believe.
UTBill
The poor soul, He needs help.
JERRY
LOL. Then why don't you help me and prove me wrong?
UTBill
The lack of any substance in your postings proves it for us all.
JERRY
LOL. The fact that you don't see substance isn't proof that substance
is lacking, only that you don't have the comprehension to see it, or
you are predisposed to ignore it.
You're just a troll aren't you? We don't like trolls here. I shall
report you.
utb,
You are not a very good troll.
That's because I'm not a troll, So I guess I'm not very good at it.
Explain why you think I wouldn't make a good troll.
On topic. Not trying to instigate trouble.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
So what's the topic? Since this was posted to my group, it's off
topic, i think.
Topic is faith.
free.christians is in the free hierarchy
Gotcha!
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