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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Bill M"
Date: 10 Dec 2006 10:27:05 AM
Object: FAITH
Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.
There are literally thousands of god and religious beliefs. Common sense
tells us there is no real god. Any real god would quite obviously announce
and confirm his reality and DIRECTLY supply his wishes and commands in a
clear and unambiguous fashion. He or it would not tolerate the thousands of
false gods and attendant confusion of his subjects.
I challenge anyone to supply objective verifiable evidence that 'their' god
is authentic and actually exists beyond their imaginations.
Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?
These god tales make no more sense than Aesop's Fables, the Harry Potter
stories, the Wizard of Oz, or Santa Claus.
The objective evidence is that gods did not create man but quite the
opposite; man created gods!
Where is ANY objective verifiable evidence that ANY Gods actually exist?
Following is a list of the many gods worshipped and feared by man over the
decades.
Which, if any, of these gods is the real god? If there is a real god, why
does he not tell us directly and clearly he is the real god and all the
others are fakes??? Why does he not smite all the fakes?
Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus,
Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen,
Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim
Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera,
Helios, Hel,
Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana,
Ishtar,
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jesus, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos,
Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius,
Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn,
Set, Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus,
Vesta,
Vishnu, Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus.
African gods:
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Jesus [Savior]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
Asian Gods:
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Finnish Gods:
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and
Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
.

User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 02:31:09 PM
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YeYeh.3960$hD6.3236@bignews8.bellsouth.net...


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.

Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated priests?
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User: "Scott Richter"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 08:38:10 PM
Pastor Frank <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote:

Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated priests?

What a juvenile comment. Do you really see everything only in terms of
imaginary father figures and their surrogates? Does every authority
figure automatically become a "priest" to you?
Yet more proof of the depths of your addiction, Frank...
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 11:07:02 PM
Pastor Frank wrote:

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YeYeh.3960$hD6.3236@bignews8.bellsouth.net...


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.

Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated priests?

From, the All knowing, All seeing Frank !
Your god tell you that Frank?
He is one nasty old fella if you ask me !
Oh I forgot, 'He' is simply 'love'
---- so why call it a 'He' ? gets more confusing by the hour, these modern
faiths.
I preferred the good old fashioned faiths; you know, the ones with with angels
and gods floating just above the clouds.
[now why in tarnation did those scientific nuisances have to go and invent
airplanes]
Bob
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor
immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and
theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
[Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei]



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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 08:43:15 AM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:457CE724.6133FCF5@netvigator.com...

Pastor Frank wrote:

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YeYeh.3960$hD6.3236@bignews8.bellsouth.net...


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear
of
death and what comes after.


Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated
priests?


From, the All knowing, All seeing Frank !
Your god tell you that Frank?
He is one nasty old fella if you ask me !
Oh I forgot, 'He' is simply 'love'
---- so why call it a 'He' ? gets more confusing by the hour, these
modern
faiths.

Because love is always manifested in humans. Theoretical love doesn't
exist.

I preferred the good old fashioned faiths; you know, the ones with with
angels
and gods floating just above the clouds.
[now why in tarnation did those scientific nuisances have to go and invent
airplanes]

Yes we know Bob. You like to disbelieve in an extensive theology full of
imagined characters. That's very "primitive" of you.
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 11:04:04 PM
Pastor Frank wrote:

"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:457CE724.6133FCF5@netvigator.com...

Pastor Frank wrote:

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YeYeh.3960$hD6.3236@bignews8.bellsouth.net...


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear
of
death and what comes after.


Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated
priests?


From, the All knowing, All seeing Frank !
Your god tell you that Frank?
He is one nasty old fella if you ask me !
Oh I forgot, 'He' is simply 'love'
---- so why call it a 'He' ? gets more confusing by the hour, these
modern
faiths.

Because love is always manifested in humans. Theoretical love doesn't
exist.

I preferred the good old fashioned faiths; you know, the ones with with
angels
and gods floating just above the clouds.
[now why in tarnation did those scientific nuisances have to go and invent
airplanes]

Yes we know Bob. You like to disbelieve in an extensive theology full of
imagined characters. That's very "primitive" of you.

0 out of 10
[Headmaster]



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User: "Azure"

Title: Re: FAITH 14 Dec 2006 03:01:46 AM
bob young wrote:

Pastor Frank wrote:

"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YeYeh.3960$hD6.3236@bignews8.bellsouth.net...


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.

Then why are you a believer in Scientism and their white-coated priests?


From, the All knowing, All seeing Frank !

Your god tell you that Frank?

He is one nasty old fella if you ask me !

Oh I forgot, 'He' is simply 'love'

No "SHE" is a Child and gets PMS at times.



---- so why call it a 'He' ? gets more confusing by the hour, these modern
faiths.

"SHE" is both, anything not Overtly Male is a She.



I preferred the good old fashioned faiths; you know, the ones with with angels
and gods floating just above the clouds.
[now why in tarnation did those scientific nuisances have to go and invent
airplanes]

Silver Wheels above the clouds was Cave Man talk.



Bob

"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor
immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and
theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
[Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei]

Knowledge is evil to them.





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User: "ernobe"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 04:52:45 PM
Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.

Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.
.
User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 03:29:30 PM
"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.

PURE NONSENSE!
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User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 05:25:55 PM
"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.

So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.
.
User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 07:33:36 PM
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <stoshu@bellsouth.net.pa> wrote in message
news:7I0fh.67657$si3.46117@tornado.socal.rr.com...

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...

Bill M wrote:


Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.

No. The carpet bombing of Feluja was a manifestation of the god or devil
of America.
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 11:14:03 PM
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.

Hardly, it was a manifestation of murderous minds, people with a raging
inferiority complex acting in the name of their imaginary god.
ALL gods are imaginary, if they were not, there would only be 'one' of them.
Man makes his gods in his own image
Bob
All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them
the power to pull ours.
[Aldous Huxley 1894-1963]
God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable.
They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary spirit, but also a
kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above
their betters.
[H.L. Mencken]
"If there were no God, it would be necessary to invent him."
[Voltaire]
Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are
[Ovid 34 BC - c.17 AD]
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User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 11:58:16 PM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:457CE8D2.3313276@netvigator.com...



"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear
of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.


Hardly,

You are being rhetorical and not responding to
me, right?
<snip>

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the
miserable.
They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary spirit, but also
a
kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them
above
their betters.
[H.L. Mencken]

Good Mencken quote. I didn't have that one.
Saving it.
--
rb #2187
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 12:32:04 AM
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:

"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:457CE8D2.3313276@netvigator.com...



"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear
of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.


Hardly,


You are being rhetorical and not responding to
me, right?

Hardly, i am dead serious
it was a manifestation of murderous minds, people with a raging
inferiority complex acting in the name of their imaginary god.
ALL gods are imaginary, if they were not, there would only be 'one' of them.
Man makes his gods in his own image
Bob



<snip>

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the
miserable.
They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary spirit, but also
a
kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them
above
their betters.
[H.L. Mencken]


Good Mencken quote. I didn't have that one.
Saving it.

--
rb #2187

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User: "Scott Richter"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 08:38:11 PM
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! <stoshu@bellsouth.net.pa> wrote:

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the
miserable. They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary
spirit, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated
egos; He will set them above their betters.
[H.L. Mencken]


Good Mencken quote. I didn't have that one.
Saving it.

Yup, seems to describe Frank to a "T", doesn't it?
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 10:57:11 PM
Scott Richter wrote:

Ron Baker, Pluralitas! <stoshu@bellsouth.net.pa> wrote:

God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the
miserable. They find not only sanctuary in the arms of an imaginary
spirit, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated
egos; He will set them above their betters.
[H.L. Mencken]


Good Mencken quote. I didn't have that one.
Saving it.


Yup, seems to describe Frank to a "T", doesn't it?

Now you come to mention it - yes it does.
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User: "ernobe"

Title: Re: FAITH 11 Dec 2006 11:13:22 AM
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.

The might have been in control at the moment, but evidently not
afterwards.
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: FAITH 13 Dec 2006 11:29:16 PM
"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165857202.246666.151000@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...


Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:

"ernobe" <ernobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165791165.341459.323050@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...


Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear
of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.


So men flying planes into the WTC was a
Manifestation of God.


The might have been in control at the moment, but evidently not
afterwards.

What?
"The(y)"?
"evidently"?
"afterwards"?
.



User: "bob young"

Title: Re: FAITH 10 Dec 2006 11:08:03 PM
ernobe wrote:

Bill M wrote:

Religious belief is based on 'pure' faith with no objective verifiable
evidence to support it. They are founded on man's uncontrollable fear of
death and what comes after.


Nothing can be founded on that which is uncontrollable. Some men have
shown control over their fear of death and what comes after. These
have become known as Manifestations of God, and constitute the
objective and irrefutable evidence for the existence of God that you
are asking for.

GROAN
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