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Religions > Bible |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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19 Nov 2006 09:33:48 PM |
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Faith, key to your future |
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
21 Nov 2006 03:12:35 PM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163993627.937108.257370@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
Yes, believing in and following myths and fables can seriouslly compromise
your future!
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
20 Nov 2006 08:28:05 PM |
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On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
20 Nov 2006 09:55:02 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
20 Nov 2006 10:11:05 PM |
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On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
20 Nov 2006 10:29:59 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
What's the difference?
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
What, has Satan taken up hang gliding or something?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
21 Nov 2006 09:28:38 PM |
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On 20 Nov 2006 20:29:59 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
What's the difference?
The difference is life or death.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
What, has Satan taken up hang gliding or something?
Only in people's imaginations, yes.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 07:53:13 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 20:29:59 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
What's the difference?
The difference is life or death.
How do you tell "true" faith from blind faith?
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
What, has Satan taken up hang gliding or something?
Only in people's imaginations, yes.
I imagine he'd look just like a big red bird, with fuzzy pink feet.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 09:19:11 PM |
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On 23 Nov 2006 17:53:13 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 20:29:59 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
What's the difference?
The difference is life or death.
How do you tell "true" faith from blind faith?
The true faith speaks from the bottom the heart with peace and love.
The blind faith speaks from the back of the mind with fear and hatred.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
What, has Satan taken up hang gliding or something?
Only in people's imaginations, yes.
I imagine he'd look just like a big red bird, with fuzzy pink feet.
Hm, the mind is really weird, isn't it? It can make up all kinds of
strange things just to fool people.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
26 Nov 2006 08:55:33 AM |
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How do you tell "true" faith from blind faith?
The true faith speaks from the bottom the heart with peace and love.
The blind faith speaks from the back of the mind with fear and hatred.
blind faith is when you actually believe that some horseshit supreme being
***** is demanding that you murder your only son.
true faith is when you finally realize theer is no ***** christian god
and you better depend on yourself and your friends and family only, because
the horsecrap christian god sure won't offer any assistance
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
21 Nov 2006 04:44:55 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
21 Nov 2006 09:36:09 PM |
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On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 07:22:27 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 08:16:05 PM |
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On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 08:29:26 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
Gen 8:21 - "...for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his
youth..."
Proverbs 12:20-"Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but
to the counsellors of peace is joy."
Jeremiah 7:24 - "But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but
walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and
went backward, and not forward."
Matthew 15:19-"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders,
adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:"
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 08:43:12 PM |
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On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
Gen 8:21 - "...for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his
youth..."
Proverbs 12:20-"Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but
to the counsellors of peace is joy."
Jeremiah 7:24 - "But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but
walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and
went backward, and not forward."
Matthew 15:19-"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders,
adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:"
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 08:51:06 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
That it was written by backwards and ignorant people, and should
be taken accordingly.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 09:09:11 PM |
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On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:06 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
That it was written by backwards and ignorant people, and should
be taken accordingly.
What do you know, the ancient people may actually be more correct than
today's scientifically educated modern people in terms of
understanding the mystery of thinking after all. The brain maybe
responsible for the physical interaction/reaction of thinking process,
but the actual thinking may not happen in the brain at all. Thinking
is entirely a spiritual activity in the intelligent spiritual mind
based on its spiritual source - the heart.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 07:56:37 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:06 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
That it was written by backwards and ignorant people, and should
be taken accordingly.
What do you know, the ancient people may actually be more correct than
today's scientifically educated modern people in terms of
understanding the mystery of thinking after all.
They burned "witches." They treated the mentally ill with torture.
The brain maybe
responsible for the physical interaction/reaction of thinking process,
but the actual thinking may not happen in the brain at all. Thinking
is entirely a spiritual activity in the intelligent spiritual mind
based on its spiritual source - the heart.
Thinking is an intellectual activity based on a person's
knowledge.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 09:30:24 PM |
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On 23 Nov 2006 17:56:37 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:06 -0800, "Father Haskell"
<fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
That it was written by backwards and ignorant people, and should
be taken accordingly.
What do you know, the ancient people may actually be more correct than
today's scientifically educated modern people in terms of
understanding the mystery of thinking after all.
They burned "witches." They treated the mentally ill with torture.
I'm glad we learn from their mistakes.
The brain maybe
responsible for the physical interaction/reaction of thinking process,
but the actual thinking may not happen in the brain at all. Thinking
is entirely a spiritual activity in the intelligent spiritual mind
based on its spiritual source - the heart.
Thinking is an intellectual activity based on a person's
knowledge.
Thinking is a spiritual activity between the heart and mind. The mind
perceives the situation, the heart provides the answer of the
situation. When there is no answer given, thinking stops. The mind can
go crazy when the heart simply refuses to provide the answer. It shows
the mind is only a servant, the heart is the real master.
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 08:51:49 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
So, when you say that the heart is not deceived, you are talking about
the human organ? Further, when you say the Bible wrote heart, you are
saying the Bible can be at fault and the product of man only, not the
words of God? Finally, would you, then, agree that man should not base
their reality upon anything the Bible calls heart (whether that be the
head or whatever)?
Gen 8:21 - "...for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his
youth..."
Proverbs 12:20-"Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but
to the counsellors of peace is joy."
Jeremiah 7:24 - "But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but
walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and
went backward, and not forward."
Matthew 15:19-"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders,
adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:"
Ken Clifton
-author of the new book, Fear No Evil
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 09:22:30 PM |
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On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
So, when you say that the heart is not deceived, you are talking about
the human organ?
No. When I talk about the heart, it's always the spiritual heart which
is our spiritual source of life.
Further, when you say the Bible wrote heart, you are
saying the Bible can be at fault and the product of man only, not the
words of God?
No. In this specific case, I happen to believe the ancient people have
better spiritual understanding than us. To them, their heart and mind
were not separated yet. To us, our mind has separated from the heart
for so long that it will go up in smoke soon...
Finally, would you, then, agree that man should not base
their reality upon anything the Bible calls heart (whether that be the
head or whatever)?
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I have done is to point
out the subtle but important difference about the heart and mind
between the ancient time and today.
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 09:42:42 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
So, when you say that the heart is not deceived, you are talking about
the human organ?
No. When I talk about the heart, it's always the spiritual heart which
is our spiritual source of life.
Further, when you say the Bible wrote heart, you are
saying the Bible can be at fault and the product of man only, not the
words of God?
No. In this specific case, I happen to believe the ancient people have
better spiritual understanding than us. To them, their heart and mind
were not separated yet. To us, our mind has separated from the heart
for so long that it will go up in smoke soon...
Finally, would you, then, agree that man should not base
their reality upon anything the Bible calls heart (whether that be the
head or whatever)?
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I have done is to point
out the subtle but important difference about the heart and mind
between the ancient time and today.
Keep up, Eric. You are falling behind here. If the heart and mind are
joined, and the Bible says the heart is the source of evil, can we
trust the heart as our fixed point of reference to judge things by?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
22 Nov 2006 09:52:57 PM |
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On 22 Nov 2006 19:42:42 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
So, when you say that the heart is not deceived, you are talking about
the human organ?
No. When I talk about the heart, it's always the spiritual heart which
is our spiritual source of life.
Further, when you say the Bible wrote heart, you are
saying the Bible can be at fault and the product of man only, not the
words of God?
No. In this specific case, I happen to believe the ancient people have
better spiritual understanding than us. To them, their heart and mind
were not separated yet. To us, our mind has separated from the heart
for so long that it will go up in smoke soon...
Finally, would you, then, agree that man should not base
their reality upon anything the Bible calls heart (whether that be the
head or whatever)?
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I have done is to point
out the subtle but important difference about the heart and mind
between the ancient time and today.
Keep up, Eric. You are falling behind here. If the heart and mind are
joined, and the Bible says the heart is the source of evil, can we
trust the heart as our fixed point of reference to judge things by?
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 06:02:14 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 19:42:42 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:51:49 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 22 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 21 Nov 2006 14:44:55 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 20 Nov 2006 19:55:02 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 19:33:48 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you know that you will determine your future by how you judge Jesus
Christ and God? Some examples...
-If you think God is merciful and sacrificial, you will receive His
mercy and Sacrifice in Jesus Christ.
-If you think God is a cold judge, you will coldly refuse His death for
you and will face his judgement.
-If you think God is not able to heal you, you are right (for your
doubt).
-If you think God is able to heal you, you are right.
-If you think God will not answer prayer, your prayers will not get
answered.
-If you think God will answer your prayer, it will get answered.
Your choice of faith will determine your future.
Faith in the love of Jesus Christ will determine your future.
Faith in the power of evil Jehovah will determine the end of your
future.
Know the true God so that your faith will not be blind.
Faith in the Love of Christ will allow you to receive His Love. Faith
in the devil will allow you to cast him out. Faith in Scripture will
allow you to quote it as a tool, weapon, and foundation. Just as faith
in distorted Scriptures will produce a distorted (and unempowered)
faith.
True faith makes you a new being in paradise.
Blind faith makes you a true slave in hell.
Christ in our heart will defeat the Devil in the sky every time!
So, faith in what the Scripture says is what, true or blind? Likewise,
faith in a nonbiblical concept makes you what, blind or true?
I don't know much about what the scripture says, sorry. I can only
talk about what I have learned in my own life. Faith in our true heart
is the only way in dealing with this dangerous world, because the
heart is where the spirit of God rules.
Emotion is a result, not a cause. As such, it is not fixed but easily
swayed. Why would God or the world rotate around the unstable emotions
of one person? Get a clue. You are decieved. There is a reason Jesus
said He was the truth. God is the only fixed thing in the whole
universe. Without Him, everything is justifiable and lost. With Him,
you have a fixed point of reference to base all else upon.
Emotion of the mind is noting like the passion of the heart. The mind
is easily swayed, but the heart is never deceived.
Not suprisingly, you are again against Scripture....
I disagree. The heart in ancient time is the mind today. Ancient
people did not believe the head could think. They think with their
heart not with their head. So when you read the scripture, you should
be aware of this difference.
So, when you say that the heart is not deceived, you are talking about
the human organ?
No. When I talk about the heart, it's always the spiritual heart which
is our spiritual source of life.
Further, when you say the Bible wrote heart, you are
saying the Bible can be at fault and the product of man only, not the
words of God?
No. In this specific case, I happen to believe the ancient people have
better spiritual understanding than us. To them, their heart and mind
were not separated yet. To us, our mind has separated from the heart
for so long that it will go up in smoke soon...
Finally, would you, then, agree that man should not base
their reality upon anything the Bible calls heart (whether that be the
head or whatever)?
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I have done is to point
out the subtle but important difference about the heart and mind
between the ancient time and today.
Keep up, Eric. You are falling behind here. If the heart and mind are
joined, and the Bible says the heart is the source of evil, can we
trust the heart as our fixed point of reference to judge things by?
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 08:34:46 AM |
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On 23 Nov 2006 04:02:14 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
When the heart was the mind in ancient time, the true heart was hidden
and unknown. When the heart is the mind again in the near future, the
heart will be the pure mind.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 03:42:28 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 04:02:14 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
When the heart was the mind in ancient time, the true heart was hidden
and unknown. When the heart is the mind again in the near future, the
heart will be the pure mind.
Again...I'll keep asking till you deal with it...should we base our
lives on the heart (or mind) that is flexible and changing, since it is
not a fixed point of reference?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
23 Nov 2006 09:41:17 PM |
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On 23 Nov 2006 13:42:28 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 04:02:14 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
When the heart was the mind in ancient time, the true heart was hidden
and unknown. When the heart is the mind again in the near future, the
heart will be the pure mind.
Again...I'll keep asking till you deal with it...should we base our
lives on the heart (or mind) that is flexible and changing, since it is
not a fixed point of reference?
We should base our lives on the heart where the spirit of God lives.
It is not the flexible and changing mind.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
24 Nov 2006 07:50:13 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 13:42:28 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 04:02:14 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
When the heart was the mind in ancient time, the true heart was hidden
and unknown. When the heart is the mind again in the near future, the
heart will be the pure mind.
Again...I'll keep asking till you deal with it...should we base our
lives on the heart (or mind) that is flexible and changing, since it is
not a fixed point of reference?
We should base our lives on the heart where the spirit of God lives.
It is not the flexible and changing mind.
So, if you are not basing your life on your mind or emotions, then you
are basing it ONLY upon God, nothing coming from you, yourself.
Finally, if the Spirit of God will never speak of Himself but only of
Christ. You agree that Christ is the fixed point of reference. Thank
you for finally agreeing.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
24 Nov 2006 02:52:08 PM |
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On 24 Nov 2006 05:50:13 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 13:42:28 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On 23 Nov 2006 04:02:14 -0800, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, in ancient time the heart was the mind, therefore, the
true heart was hidden and was unknown by the ancient people. Today,
the heart and mind has separated from each other, the way of good and
the way of evil are clear for everyone to see. It maybe a good thing
for us to return to the truth.
You completely ignored what I said. If the heart and mind were the
same and the heart/mind was the source of evil, should we make this
flexible, changing source of evil the point of reference for our lives?
When the heart was the mind in ancient time, the true heart was hidden
and unknown. When the heart is the mind again in the near future, the
heart will be the pure mind.
Again...I'll keep asking till you deal with it...should we base our
lives on the heart (or mind) that is flexible and changing, since it is
not a fixed point of reference?
We should base our lives on the heart where the spirit of God lives.
It is not the flexible and changing mind.
So, if you are not basing your life on your mind or emotions, then you
are basing it ONLY upon God, nothing coming from you, yourself.
As a believer, it's my duty to base my life on the Lord. But that does
not mean nothing coming from me, since the spirit in me is my new
being in Christ. Without the spirit in my heart, I am nothing. Because
of the spirit in my heart, I have everything.
Finally, if the Spirit of God will never speak of Himself but only of
Christ. You agree that Christ is the fixed point of reference. Thank
you for finally agreeing.
Christ has always been my focus in everything I say. Sorry if you
haven't noticed, but thanks for making it clear. As for the Spirit of
God, He is Christ. And He doesn't need to say anything, because He can
show us everything without saying a word.
Ho! Ho! Ho!
:-)
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Faith, key to your future |
28 Nov 2006 07:39:34 PM |
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As a believer, it's my duty to base my life on the Lord.
so, you are basing your life on a MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED
***** christian sky pixie that sits on his FAT, LAZY ***** and does nothing
to help a child whos ie being raped and murdered?
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