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User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"
Date: 18 Apr 2005 10:20:13 PM
Object: False-christian Christian@velocitus.net the polytheist
Can the false-christian scum
really be so
stupid that he/she/it does not see that what he/she/it is
teaching is garden variety polytheism? No one could be *that*
stupid so he/she/it must be deliberately lying.

spake thusly and wrote
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 15:10:24 -0600
Message-ID: <4csge0dj6p9amdhcp4thsmtv85jgbv3o4s@4ax.com>:

Since Jesus IS NOT HIS OWN FATHER (by definition in both Greek AND
English), Jesus (one Person of the ONE GOD) prayed to HIS FATHER
(Another Person of THE SAME ONE GOD), with a SEPARATE WILL, a SEPARATE
voice, and A SEPARATE CONSCIOUSNESS.

"Like peas in a pod are the gods in their squad."<tm>
Thank you for showing what a brazen and filthy liar you are

These false-christian dirt like
would be
funny were they not laboring to deceive souls into hell.
Now if you think these filthy false-christian scum like
aren't polytheists, just how many
separate entities would they have to name in their god squad for
you to accept that they are polytheists?
This is the SAME filthy false-christian scum
who was calling me a liar for calling
him/her/it (hard to tell with the anon scum) polytheist!
Does not the gutless, anon, devilish

worship the exact same trinity as the pope does?
In what way is
's three headed Roman idol
god squad different from the popes three headed Roman idol god
squad?
In what way is
's trinity cult baptism
different than the pope's trinity cult baptism?
is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at his spiritual mama.
Pastor Winter
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.

User: "Rod"

Title: Re: False-christian Christian@velocitus.net the polytheist 19 Apr 2005 07:26:31 PM
Pastor Winter JNAHC wrote:

Can the false-christian scum

really be so
stupid that he/she/it does not see that what he/she/it is
teaching is garden variety polytheism?

After thinking it over, yes, he is that stupid.
No one could be *that*

stupid so he/she/it must be deliberately lying.

That to, but it still doesn't rule out stupid.



spake thusly and wrote
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 15:10:24 -0600
Message-ID: <4csge0dj6p9amdhcp4thsmtv85jgbv3o4s@4ax.com>:


Since Jesus IS NOT HIS OWN FATHER (by definition in both Greek AND
English), Jesus (one Person of the ONE GOD) prayed to HIS FATHER
(Another Person of THE SAME ONE GOD), with a SEPARATE WILL, a SEPARATE
voice, and A SEPARATE CONSCIOUSNESS.



"Like peas in a pod are the gods in their squad."<tm>

Thank you for showing what a brazen and filthy liar you are



These false-christian dirt like
would be
funny were they not laboring to deceive souls into hell.

Now if you think these filthy false-christian scum like
aren't polytheists, just how many
separate entities would they have to name in their god squad for
you to accept that they are polytheists?

This is the SAME filthy false-christian scum
who was calling me a liar for calling
him/her/it (hard to tell with the anon scum) polytheist!

Does not the gutless, anon, devilish

worship the exact same trinity as the pope does?

In what way is
's three headed Roman idol
god squad different from the popes three headed Roman idol god
squad?

In what way is
's trinity cult baptism
different than the pope's trinity cult baptism?

is merely "Catholic lite"<tm> railing
at his spiritual mama.

Pastor Winter

Pastor Winter

.

User: "Carl Walther"

Title: Steve Winter prays to himself? 18 Apr 2005 11:22:41 PM
So Steve,
Are you tired of dodging me yet? All you do is hit and run. Tell me
something... since you reject the Holy Trinity, and you use yourself as
an example (You are both a father and a son but the same person) do you
ever call yourself your own father?
I am still waiting for your answer.
--Carl
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Steve Winter prays to himself? 19 Apr 2005 08:57:36 AM
Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."
Burl Ratzsch
http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Steve Winter prays to himself? 19 Apr 2005 11:23:14 PM
spake thusly and wrote:

Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."

See my reply as:
"False-christian Burl Ratzsch betrays his polytheism"
Wow, I thought all of the three-god, false-christian scum knew
better than to use that verse to try to justify their polytheism!
It is good when folks like Burl Ratzsch admit their polytheism,
though as they try to help the devilish Carl Walther.
Here we have one of the favorite verses of the trinity/antichrist
preachers, except if we keep reading just one verse further; we
see that verse 26 couldn't have possibly been referring to a
discussion with other gods. God was talking with the angels.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after
our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over
all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon
the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image
of God created he him; male and female created he them.
See in verse 27; it says "he" created, not "they" created. But as
if that wasn't enough proof, we see in this next verse that God
clearly and plainly declares that He did the creating, and I
quote "by myself"
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that
formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all
[things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth
abroad the earth by myself;
What part of "by myself" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?
Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh
diviners mad; that turneth wise [men] backward, and maketh their
knowledge foolish;
God does not seem overly impressed with men's pet theories, does
He?
Isaiah 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there
is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known
me:
Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and
from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD,
and [there is] none else.
What part of "none else" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?
Now I have to submit that if there had been any other co-equal,
co-eternal 1/3 gods around that Jehovah Saviour would have been
aware of them, notice that He states, and I quote "there is none
beside me".
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my
mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me
every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10 & 11 must be referring to the
same person, whom all knees will eventually bow to.
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under
the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Now if you're having any trouble at all with thinking that verse
11 speaks of two gods, just take the comma out (the original
language didn't have 'em)...and notice the consistent meaning, if
we read the verse to mean that Jesus Christ is Lord of the glory
of God the Father.
If that seems to be stretching things a bit, notice this next
verse:
I Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord
of glory.
See, it says that Jesus is the Lord of glory, but we see in this
next verse that Jehovah Saviour states that He will not share His
glory with any other....sooo we see that Jehovah Saviour allowed
Himself to be crucified.
Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I
do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not
give my glory unto another.
And if anyone with even the slightest bit of sincerity has any
lingering doubt, Jesus said it about as plain as it could be
said.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;
for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Notice how the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ is the same
Spirit. That same Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, or the Holy
Ghost.
God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
God is holy.
I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.
God is a "Holy Spirit". Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".
John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.
The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.
The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
Those like the devilish Carl Walther or "3 god" Burl who believe
that Jesus is a "separate person" from the "Father" don't really
know Jesus at all.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.

User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: False-christian Burl Ratzsch betrays his polytheism 19 Apr 2005 11:23:04 PM
spake thusly and wrote:

Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."

Wow, I thought all of the three-god, false-christian scum knew
better than to use that verse to try to justify their polytheism!
It is good when folks like Burl Ratzsch admit their polytheism,
though as they try to help the devilish Carl Walther.
Here we have one of the favorite verses of the trinity/antichrist
preachers, except if we keep reading just one verse further; we
see that verse 26 couldn't have possibly been referring to a
discussion with other gods. God was talking with the angels.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after
our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over
all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon
the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image
of God created he him; male and female created he them.
See in verse 27; it says "he" created, not "they" created. But as
if that wasn't enough proof, we see in this next verse that God
clearly and plainly declares that He did the creating, and I
quote "by myself"
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that
formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all
[things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth
abroad the earth by myself;
What part of "by myself" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?
Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh
diviners mad; that turneth wise [men] backward, and maketh their
knowledge foolish;
God does not seem overly impressed with men's pet theories, does
He?
Isaiah 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there
is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known
me:
Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and
from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD,
and [there is] none else.
What part of "none else" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?
Now I have to submit that if there had been any other co-equal,
co-eternal 1/3 gods around that Jehovah Saviour would have been
aware of them, notice that He states, and I quote "there is none
beside me".
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my
mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me
every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10 & 11 must be referring to the
same person, whom all knees will eventually bow to.
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under
the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Now if you're having any trouble at all with thinking that verse
11 speaks of two gods, just take the comma out (the original
language didn't have 'em)...and notice the consistent meaning, if
we read the verse to mean that Jesus Christ is Lord of the glory
of God the Father.
If that seems to be stretching things a bit, notice this next
verse:
I Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord
of glory.
See, it says that Jesus is the Lord of glory, but we see in this
next verse that Jehovah Saviour states that He will not share His
glory with any other....sooo we see that Jehovah Saviour allowed
Himself to be crucified.
Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I
do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not
give my glory unto another.
And if anyone with even the slightest bit of sincerity has any
lingering doubt, Jesus said it about as plain as it could be
said.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;
for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Notice how the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ is the same
Spirit. That same Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, or the Holy
Ghost.
God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
God is holy.
I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.
God is a "Holy Spirit". Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".
John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"
John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.
The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.
The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:
Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
Those like the devilish Carl Walther or "3 god" Burl who believe
that Jesus is a "separate person" from the "Father" don't really
know Jesus at all.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.
User: "Will"

Title: Re: False-christian Burl Ratzsch betrays his polytheism 26 Apr 2005 11:06:55 AM
On 2005-04-20 00:23:04 -0400, Pastor Steve Winter
<steve.NO--SPAM@prime.org> said:

bdratzsch@aol.com spake thusly and wrote:

Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."


Wow, I thought all of the three-god, false-christian scum knew
better than to use that verse to try to justify their polytheism!

It is good when folks like Burl Ratzsch admit their polytheism,
though as they try to help the devilish Carl Walther.

Here we have one of the favorite verses of the trinity/antichrist
preachers, except if we keep reading just one verse further; we
see that verse 26 couldn't have possibly been referring to a
discussion with other gods. God was talking with the angels.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after
our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over
all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon
the earth.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image
of God created he him; male and female created he them.

See in verse 27; it says "he" created, not "they" created. But as
if that wasn't enough proof, we see in this next verse that God
clearly and plainly declares that He did the creating, and I
quote "by myself"
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that
formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all
[things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth
abroad the earth by myself;

What part of "by myself" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?

Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh
diviners mad; that turneth wise [men] backward, and maketh their
knowledge foolish;

God does not seem overly impressed with men's pet theories, does
He?
Isaiah 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there
is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known
me:
Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and
from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD,
and [there is] none else.

What part of "none else" is too hard for scum like Carl Walther
or "3 god" Burl to comprehend?

Now I have to submit that if there had been any other co-equal,
co-eternal 1/3 gods around that Jehovah Saviour would have been
aware of them, notice that He states, and I quote "there is none
beside me".
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my
mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me
every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Isaiah 45:23 and Philippians 2:10 & 11 must be referring to the
same person, whom all knees will eventually bow to.
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under
the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Now if you're having any trouble at all with thinking that verse
11 speaks of two gods, just take the comma out (the original
language didn't have 'em)...and notice the consistent meaning, if
we read the verse to mean that Jesus Christ is Lord of the glory
of God the Father.
If that seems to be stretching things a bit, notice this next
verse:

I Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord
of glory.

See, it says that Jesus is the Lord of glory, but we see in this
next verse that Jehovah Saviour states that He will not share His
glory with any other....sooo we see that Jehovah Saviour allowed
Himself to be crucified.

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, [even] for mine own sake, will I
do [it]: for how should [my name] be polluted? and I will not
give my glory unto another.

And if anyone with even the slightest bit of sincerity has any
lingering doubt, Jesus said it about as plain as it could be
said.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;
for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Notice how the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ is the same
Spirit. That same Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, or the Holy
Ghost.

God is a Spirit.

John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

God is holy.

I Samuel 2:2 [There is] none holy as the LORD: for [there is]
none beside thee: neither [is there] any rock like our God.

God is a "Holy Spirit". Jesus is the "Spirit of truth"

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus was "dwelling with them" and promised to be "in them".

John 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The "comforter" is the "Spirit of Christ"

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

The "Spirit of Christ" is the "Holy Spirit" is the "Spirit of
Truth"

John 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and
bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto
you.

The Spirit of God visited His creation robed in flesh as the
"Son".

I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on
in the world, received up into glory.

The fullness of God is in Jesus Christ

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of
all principality and power:

Jesus IS the "everlasting Father".

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.

Those like the devilish Carl Walther or "3 god" Burl who believe
that Jesus is a "separate person" from the "Father" don't really
know Jesus at all.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?

Pastor sTeve Winter

Even when someone is in doctrinal error, shouldn't we love them and not
call them names such as "scum"?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: False-christian Burl Ratzsch betrays his polytheism 26 Apr 2005 11:40:55 AM
Pastor Winters represents a sad story.
While not personally acquainted with the man, our own years of pastoral
experience and dealings with the public would render the following most
likely:
1. It is doubtful the man ever pastored a church. It is for certain
that a man with such qualities of character, only one subject theme,
and an obsessively hateful spirit has not successfully pastored a
church.
2. Since attitudes totally dominant within one area of life are
reflected in life's other areas as well, the odds are that if Mr.
Winters has ever been married, the record is, or more likely has been,
one of unmitigated disaster.
3. Relationships and reputation within the community wherein Mr.
Winters lives almost certainly require little comment. One can only
wonder as to what outworkings in terms of resultant civil records or
procedurings one might find.
4. Nor would it be out of the ordinary for a person of such nature to
have a record of treatment for mental disorders of one kind or another.
Burl Ratzsch
.

User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: False-christian Burl Ratzsch betrays his polytheism 26 Apr 2005 01:16:27 PM
Will <macguyinnc@nospampleasegmail.com> spake thusly and wrote:

Even when someone is in doctrinal error, shouldn't we love them and not
call them names such as "scum"?

When people like Burl Ratzsch and other Satanic servants are
actively laboring to deceive souls into hell, calling them "scum"
is actually rather mild.
I believe that some of you folks have some serious misconceptions
about the Lord of the Bible, who was the perfect example for the
Christian..
I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ
also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should
follow his steps:
I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his
mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he
encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers.
Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can
ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear
beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and
of all uncleanness.
Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of
dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate
as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was
walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian
preacher, that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake",
"hypocrite".
"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone preaching other than the
original Acts 2:38 message:
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
(Check out Acts 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered to
the Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)
Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If
he's not preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure
would!
I hope this helps.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.

User: "Carl Walther"

Title: Correct Christians' errors out of love? 26 Apr 2005 04:53:13 PM
Will wrote:

Even when someone is in doctrinal error, shouldn't we love them and

not

call them names such as "scum"?

You are right. We should correct people out of love. I even tried it
with Steve but he won't listen. In that sense, I am glad that his
parish only has his wife in it. (and I feel sorry for her, too).
He really wants to lead people in LAW, LAW, LAW, LAW, LAW, and yet, it
is the law that points to our sin only. It doesn't save us.
He could in no way even stand up to his own standards, so I don't
expect anyone else will try to either.
--Carl
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Correct Christians' errors out of love? 26 Apr 2005 10:22:15 PM
"Carl Walther" <no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> spake thusly and
wrote:

You are right. We should correct people out of love. I even tried it
with Steve but he won't listen.


I love people enough to come against pride engorged, Satanic
deceiving false-christian scum like Carl Walther who labor to
deceive souls into hell.
See my reply also as:
"Carl Walther can't defend his stupid beliefs against the Bible"
My unpopularity among filthy false-christian scum like Carl
Walther is legendary.
The important point for the reader to consider here from the
empty spams of Carl Walther and scum like him is that these filth
cannot begin to defend their filthy false-christianity against
the Bible or a real Bible preacher.
The best defense against Satanic, pride engorged, false-christian
scum like Carl Walther is still education and information.
Satanic false-christian scum like Carl Walther would have you to
believe that some university degree would be required to
understand the basics of the Bible.
Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it
shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass
over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though
fools, shall not err therein.
The Bible also addresses scum like the Satanic, pride engorged,
false-christian scum Carl Walther.
2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the
knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also
resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the
faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be
manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Filthy, Satanic, pride engorged, false-christian scum like Carl
Walther cannot even begin to defend their false-christian garbage
using the Bible so they must just post their little insulting
snippets.
I hope this helps...
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
.




User: "Carl Walther"

Title: Re: Steve Winter prays to himself? 19 Apr 2005 02:27:38 PM
wrote:

Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."

Burl Ratzsch

Yeah, he's read it and has a built in lame-duck response.
--Carl
.

User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Steve Winter prays to himself? 19 Apr 2005 07:20:50 PM
wrote:

Perhaps Pastor Winters has yet to read Genesis 1:26: "Let Us make man
in Our image, according to Our likeness."

Burl Ratzsch
http://burlratzsch.blogspot.com/

Perhaps, and I am guessing at this, that verse you quoted may have
much more to do with the seven spirits of God mentioned in revelations
than any of us might believe. But I believe common sense itself will
bear out that if Jesus was the Word in the begining, then it reasons
that He was also God, and if it also reasons that the Father is God,
then they ARE one and the same. No seperate wills, no seperate
personalities, the very same ONE. The Father was speaking to His other
manifested self. It only sounds crazy because we cannot fully understand
the complex nature of our creator. Who among us can claim the we DO ?
Rod
.




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