Religions > Bible > First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty
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Religions > Bible |
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"Western World" |
| Date: |
15 Nov 2004 06:07:35 PM |
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First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
IN A FREE NATION, the principles of liberty give us the right to worship
or believe as we wish. We can print and say what we wish. The people
of the BibleGod hate that liberty stuff!!!.
Have you ever heard anyone say that freedom is attained thru the eye of
a needle?
NOPE!!!
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty. Kept slaves.
Didnt want women to vote. Homophobic fools. Hated Copernicus and
Darwin!
The American constitution in the 6th article even goes so far as to say
your religion means nothing as far being a public servant. NO RELIGIOUS
TESTS when almost 1500 years of Christian dictatorship on belief systems
(Council of Nicea - 325 to 1787) demanded a NICENE-TRINITARIAN
DECLARATION as a response to a religious test. No declaration meant NO
JOB!
Even the American colonies bigoted themselves against Catholics by
saying that the Protestant religion was the religion of that colony.
Every colony but VA and NY made Protestantism, JUST LIKE ENGLAND, the
religion of the land. Section 94 of the massachusetts Body of Liberties
(1641) even prescribed DEATH for unbelieving or blasphemy!!
How "modern" of these colonists!
(Then came the American Enlightenment with its Greco-Roman classical
roots!!! YEEHAW!!)
How immature and primitive the first commandments are.
Your child emperor in the sky says in the end "JUST ME OR ELSE I WILL
BURN YOU IN HELL!"
Have any of you ever thought out the ridiculous belief system you have?
Its SO IMMORAL and ILLOGICAL!
There is no logical support for your belief system.
If you think there is, please inform me!
"Blind faith makes blind people"
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ARE RED STATES, TOO!!!
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| User: "Robert Swarts" |
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| Title: Re: First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
15 Nov 2004 07:20:02 PM |
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"Western World" <Tales_of_the_Western_World@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17264-419944C7-209@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net...
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
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First Commandment:
I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
Where does that say "ME! ONLY ME! I AM JEALOUS AND WILL KILL YOU IF YOU
DON'T WORSHIP ME! I WILL MAKE YOU BURN IN HELL!"
It doesn't. This was a religious code to the Hebrew people to guide them in
morality, meant to turn them away from idols and casting of other gods.
----------------------------------------------------
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty. Kept slaves.
---------------------------------------
Those Christians who kept slaves and abused their slaves stood not for the
totality of Christianity. There were many honorable slave-keepers and many
slaves who felt like a part of the family, who were fed, given ample rest,
and able to express themselves freely through the culture of their homeland.
These were good slave-owners whose slaves didn't want to leave when
liberation came.
Mistakes of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
------------------------------
Didnt want women to vote.
-------------------------------
Mistakes of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
-------------------------------
Homophobic fools. Hated Copernicus and
Darwin!
------------------------------
Sins of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
-----------------------------
The American constitution in the 6th article even goes so far as to say
your religion means nothing as far being a public servant. NO RELIGIOUS
TESTS when almost 1500 years of Christian dictatorship on belief systems
(Council of Nicea - 325 to 1787) demanded a NICENE-TRINITARIAN
DECLARATION as a response to a religious test. No declaration meant NO
JOB!
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This entire thing makes absolutely no sense. It is just a bunch of
ramblings which aren't placed together efficiently or grammatically.
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Even the American colonies bigoted themselves against Catholics by
saying that the Protestant religion was the religion of that colony.
Every colony but VA and NY made Protestantism, JUST LIKE ENGLAND, the
religion of the land. Section 94 of the massachusetts Body of Liberties
(1641) even prescribed DEATH for unbelieving or blasphemy!!
--------------------------------
Sins of individuals do not define the path of God
--------------------------------
How "modern" of these colonists!
(Then came the American Enlightenment with its Greco-Roman classical
roots!!! YEEHAW!!)
How immature and primitive the first commandments are.
Your child emperor in the sky says in the end "JUST ME OR ELSE I WILL
BURN YOU IN HELL!"
-----------------------------------
Where does Jesus say this? I think it was more of a
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one shall come to the Father
except through me."
-----------------------------------
Have any of you ever thought out the ridiculous belief system you have?
Its SO IMMORAL and ILLOGICAL!
There is no logical support for your belief system.
If you think there is, please inform me!
"Blind faith makes blind people"
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On the contrary, I can go on for hours describing the logical pattern of
Christian and Catholic faith.
Creationism in comparison to science:
A day to God isn't 24 hours long. It is a period in time (whether a split
second or ten billion years) in which a purpose of God is revealed to the
universe.
The Ten Commandments and other laws for the people who ALREADY walk on the
path of God:
1) I am the Lord they God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
2) Though shalts not take the name of the Lord in vain.
3)Keep holy the sabbath
4) Honor your father and mother
5) Do not kill
6) Do not commit adultery
7) Do not steal
8) Do not lie
9) Do not take your neighbor's wife
10) Do not take your neighbors possessions
That is a code which tells people to respect and honor their elders, do not
steal or kill, and not to put other things before God. This is for the
people who walk in the path of the God of Abraham... it is a personal code
of laws for those who are on that path.
The new law:
Love eachother as I have loved you. As I have loved you, so must you love
one another. Through this, people will see that you are sent from Me."
Wow... so immoral to love eachother unconditionally...
I think that is the most evil thing in teh world... to love eachother as God
loves us.... (notice the sarcasm)
Seems pretty logical to me...
As for the logic of the faith itself: It is just that... faith.
God is there, I can feel Him in my heart. He supports me and fills me with
joy and zeal. He pushes me to hate sin yet embrace sinners.
If I ask something of Him, that something is given unless it violates His
will. If it is not given, I know it is not because it is against His will
and He has something better in store for me.
The ten commandments and other commandments do not jeprodize the principles
of liberty and freedom, but enhance them by LIBERATING people from death.
We know our God to be true and there for us. We have this joy in our hearts
and this true purpose to live for:
There are billions of people in this world who are asleep; sleeping the
sleep of death and darkness.
We have been given the huge responsibility to do the best we can to wake
these people up and tell them to start living again, to give them the truth,
and to show them how to have the joy that we have.
We do not preach to people to hurt them, but to help them. I personally
have a huge thirst for souls. I want people to be with me forever in
eternity with our Heavenly Father, and I want them to feel this joy that I
am feeling.
This is logical, that I want people to have this awesome and pure life that
I have found. It is a gift that has been given to me from God, and a gift
that I can guide other people to so that they, too, will feel joy and humble
themselves to love.
-Robert
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| User: "Chuckkles" |
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| Title: Re: First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
17 Nov 2004 09:08:57 AM |
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"Robert Swarts" <rswarts@bu.edu> wrote in message news:cnbkl9$l73$1@news3.bu.edu...
"Western World" <Tales_of_the_Western_World@webtv.net> wrote in message
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
First Commandment:
I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
Where does that say "ME! ONLY ME! I AM JEALOUS AND WILL KILL YOU IF YOU
DON'T WORSHIP ME! I WILL MAKE YOU BURN IN HELL!"
It doesn't. This was a religious code to the Hebrew people to guide them in
morality, meant to turn them away from idols and casting of other gods.
Maybe there are no threats in the list of commandments themselves, but
why don't you try reading the rest of the Old Testament? Then get back
to us.
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty. Kept slaves.
---------------------------------------
Those Christians who kept slaves and abused their slaves stood not for the
totality of Christianity.
So apparently there were very few real Christians in the south in the US in the 1800's.
And y'all keep yammering on about how we're a Christian nation!
There were many honorable slave-keepers and many
slaves who felt like a part of the family, who were fed, given ample rest,
and able to express themselves freely through the culture of their homeland.
These were good slave-owners whose slaves didn't want to leave when
liberation came.
Mistakes of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
------------------------------
Didnt want women to vote.
-------------------------------
Mistakes of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
-------------------------------
Homophobic fools. Hated Copernicus and
Darwin!
------------------------------
Sins of individuals do not define the totality of the path of God
-----------------------------
Maybe not, but when you factor in the number of sins and number of
individuals, it makes your religion look hypocritical and worthless.
Even the American colonies bigoted themselves against Catholics by
saying that the Protestant religion was the religion of that colony.
Every colony but VA and NY made Protestantism, JUST LIKE ENGLAND, the
religion of the land. Section 94 of the massachusetts Body of Liberties
(1641) even prescribed DEATH for unbelieving or blasphemy!!
--------------------------------
Sins of individuals do not define the path of God
--------------------------------
How "modern" of these colonists!
(Then came the American Enlightenment with its Greco-Roman classical
roots!!! YEEHAW!!)
How immature and primitive the first commandments are.
Your child emperor in the sky says in the end "JUST ME OR ELSE I WILL
BURN YOU IN HELL!"
-----------------------------------
Where does Jesus say this? I think it was more of a
"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one shall come to the Father
except through me."
Now I understand how it works! When God was commanding killing, torturing,
and raping back in the old Testament, there was no trinity and Jesus had nothing
to do with it. Makes perfect sense now.
On the contrary, I can go on for hours describing the logical pattern of
Christian and Catholic faith.
You can go on posting pious and senseless balderdash that isn't even
remotely connected to logic.
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| User: "NiTeHaWK" |
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| Title: Re: First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
16 Nov 2004 12:36:08 AM |
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The Ten Commandments and other laws for the people who ALREADY walk on the
path of God:
1) I am the Lord they God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
2) Though shalts not take the name of the Lord in vain.
3)Keep holy the sabbath
4) Honor your father and mother
5) Do not kill
6) Do not commit adultery
7) Do not steal
8) Do not lie
9) Do not take your neighbor's wife
10) Do not take your neighbors possessions
1) You shall have no other gods before me
2) You shall not make idols
3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
5) Honour your father and your mother
6) You shall not murder
7) You shall not commit adultery
8) You shall not Steal
9) You shall not Bear false witness (lie)
10) You shall not covert (want) you heighbours house (things).
The new law:
Love eachother as I have loved you. As I have loved you, so must you love
one another. Through this, people will see that you are sent from Me."
There were two of these given, the first was to "love the Lord your God with
all your heart and all your soal" and the other was "love your neighbour
as yourself"
These didn't replace the law, but were mearly a summary of the law.
If you really love God with all your heart and your soul you won't want
to...
1) Have another God
2) make an idol
3) use the Lords name in vain
and you will want to..
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
And if you love everyone unconditionaly..
Then you will
5) Honour your parents
and you won't want to...
6) Kill anyone
7) commit adultery
8) Steal
9) Lie
or
10) wont the guys next door Holden HSV GTO V8 car or anything else of his.
There really was no better way for Jesus to sum up the law then...
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your soul"
and "Love your neighbour as yourself"
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| User: "Robert Swarts" |
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| Title: Re: First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
16 Nov 2004 01:06:48 AM |
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And the point of your message was to repeat what I merely said in more
detail? The point of this topic was that the thread starter was debating
that the first few commandments violated principles of liberty. Respond to
that, help that person to understand that to not follow these commandments
only hinders freedom and liberty.
-Robert
"NiTeHaWK" <nitehawk@netaccess.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1100587016.797017@kyle.snap.net.nz...
The Ten Commandments and other laws for the people who ALREADY walk on
the path of God:
1) I am the Lord they God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
2) Though shalts not take the name of the Lord in vain.
3)Keep holy the sabbath
4) Honor your father and mother
5) Do not kill
6) Do not commit adultery
7) Do not steal
8) Do not lie
9) Do not take your neighbor's wife
10) Do not take your neighbors possessions
1) You shall have no other gods before me
2) You shall not make idols
3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
5) Honour your father and your mother
6) You shall not murder
7) You shall not commit adultery
8) You shall not Steal
9) You shall not Bear false witness (lie)
10) You shall not covert (want) you heighbours house (things).
The new law:
Love eachother as I have loved you. As I have loved you, so must you
love one another. Through this, people will see that you are sent from
Me."
There were two of these given, the first was to "love the Lord your God
with
all your heart and all your soal" and the other was "love your neighbour
as yourself"
These didn't replace the law, but were mearly a summary of the law.
If you really love God with all your heart and your soul you won't want
to...
1) Have another God
2) make an idol
3) use the Lords name in vain
and you will want to..
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
And if you love everyone unconditionaly..
Then you will
5) Honour your parents
and you won't want to...
6) Kill anyone
7) commit adultery
8) Steal
9) Lie
or
10) wont the guys next door Holden HSV GTO V8 car or anything else of his.
There really was no better way for Jesus to sum up the law then...
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your soul"
and "Love your neighbour as yourself"
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| User: "NiTeHaWK" |
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| Title: Re: First commandments are enemy of principles of liberty |
17 Nov 2004 03:00:05 AM |
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I wouldn't have bothered replying to you post in this manner if you hadn't
gotten the Ten wrong.
Robert Swarts wrote:
And the point of your message was to repeat what I merely said in more
detail? The point of this topic was that the thread starter was debating
that the first few commandments violated principles of liberty. Respond to
that, help that person to understand that to not follow these commandments
only hinders freedom and liberty.
-Robert
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| User: "Mark T" |
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| Title: WHY VERA CANNOT BE TRUSTED |
17 Nov 2004 03:34:25 PM |
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"::: vera :::" wrote:
Just let me know where and I will report him, too.
As rare as a Fundamentalist who loves her enemy.
Kept as evidence against Vera and forwarded on to my ISP.
Typical CULT tactic. Silence those who oppose you ratbaggery!
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"::: vera :::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:300uvaF2po1t9U1@uni-berlin.de...
In news:20041117051516.08116.00000868@mb-m05.wmconnect.com,
OneAndOnlyTBC <oneandonlytbc@wmconnect.com> wrote:
Dump kept posting an old post from an unknown sourse, claiming it to
be one of the building team, it was an angry post filled with the "F"
word and Homo-erotic descriptions. Dump posted this to Acc over
twenty times and did not stop till I said I had contacted his ISP,
actually I contacted the sales department not the complate department.
He stopped then.
LOL
Love(TBC)
Just let me know where and I will report him, too.
There is something called "justice", and there is something called "law"
that is valid for David Matthieu P.P. as well, no matter how much he
thinks
he can act anonymously, this coward.
But calm down - this is not worth the pudding.
Do you really think it is worthwhile to take time for lying slanderers and
trolls? There are much better things to do. But if we should decide to do
something against David Matthieu P.P. and Mark Tindall, we should all do
it
together and effectively - there is a good chance to stop the two, as
there
is enough evidence for their character assassination and even threats in
the
usenet. All can read it.
I think he should not get away with it, because he will do this to others
as
well, not only to us. Do not forget that he was the one who posted the
stuff
about me to be a cult leader in the Internet - it is hard enough to bear
such things here in the groups, but he really harmed me for my personal
life
there - as much as those who allowed him to post there.
This guy - David Matthieu P.P. is an unconscientiously liar who does not
hesitate to destroy other people. He is a danger for others, as much as
Mark
Tindall is. They must be stopped. Their victims are more important than
petting them for all their evil actions they have done and will do in
future.
David M.P.P.'s actions - as much as those of Mark Tindall - have become a
political item. The right of free speech does not mean to be able to
insult
or harrass other people as much as one pleases.
::: vera :::
--
::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de :::
::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm :::
POOP FAQ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What is POOP?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Principality of Obnoxious Poopers (aka collectively as POOP) including
Vera, Abby, Bob, Pedro, etc
AKA
- Venomous Vera, Vera 666, The Nazi, Plonk Bottle Washer, The Plonk Addict
- scAbby, Obnoxious Abby, Juvenile Jeanutter, the Nutty Nurse
- Boring Belligerent Bob, Boob, boob@bob.bob, Tim Tam Security Guard, The
Blob Meister, blob@blob./blob
- The Pedrophile, Thick as a Brick, Pedrododo, The Dodo Turd
They are (except for the non-Trew Kristyun Pedro who is headed for Trew
Kristyun Hell)
- Trew Kristyuns
- funnyMENTALists
- fanatical fundamentalist warmongers
All of them are
- Grizian thugs
- Pedrophiles
- Poopers
These are characterised by one or more of the following: an extreme lack of
rationality, fondness of logical fallacies, repeated use of emotional
appeals, rigid adherence to Bronze Age mythology, endorsement of
pseudoscientific nonsense, opposition to the First Amendment, bigotry and
discriminatory attitudes towards minority groups, belief that certain
children's media is the work of Satan, and propensity to post Bible verses
instead of valid argument.
The pictures of ALL members of the POOP Inquisition are at
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
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What's wrong with POOP?
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They appear to be as happy as if they were in their right minds.
They have the following unfortunate features:
- a distrust and fear of freedom
- a belief in the importance of authority and in controlling what people
believe
- a corresponding preference for obedience rather than love
- a desire to give people what they want rather than the truth
- a refusal to allow themselves to be in the least disconcerted when
confronted with the true nature of their fundamentalist religion
- a readiness to persecute and exclude anyone who is of a different
persuasion.
They prefer authority, obedience, and conformity over freedom, truth, and
dissent.
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Are POOP part of the Griz cult?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes. Key Characteristics of the Griz cult are [adapted from Joanne Ruhland
1995]:
- Content Which Is Authoritarian
- Indoctrinates / clones
- Unquestioning obedience / Leaders do not discuss questions
- Love and loyalty are the bottom line
- Indoctrination /Leaders' conclusions must be accepted.
- Emphasis on uniformity
- Elitist / accepts SOME Christians
- Hidden agenda
- Manipulates
- Leaders "lord" it over the flock
- Results in conformity, rigidity
- Allows one avenue of service ... serving their group
- Individual is responsible to leaders
- Leaders tell individual what God's will is
- Analytical thinking hindered
- Simplistic approach to life
- Pick your own bible verse to lead you / Choices must conform to leaders'
dictates, leaders' approval
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How do POOP forgive those who sin against
them?
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The bible says in Matthew 18:21-22 " Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord,
how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven
times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up
to seventy times seven.
So if someone sins against POOP they make sure
they follow this verse exactly and keep a ....
TREW KRISTYUN FORGIVEN SIN TALLY
70 times 7 minus 1 for today = 489 times left ...and counting.
That way POOP know exactly when they can hit
others with their steel encased KJV bible on the other cheek without
sinning.
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How does one translate from POOPian Trew Kristyun to Plain English?
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You are only political - You want to have rational, logical and intelligent
discussions
You are a heretic - I don't agree with you
You are satan - I *really* don't agree with you
You support heretics - You are a friend to people on the fringe and show
compassion and love
You invade the NG - You came here the same as I did but I assumed control
before you came here and you aren't taking that away
This NG is not for discussion/debates - I fear being challenged by different
views and opinions
I don't have a problem with English, you do - I cannot admit I may be wrong
and I sometimes misunderstand people
This NG has guidelines - Regardless of the facts presented to me as to why
this NG won't/can't/doesn't have guidelines I feel there must be some form
of control over this group to stop mature discussion
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Who are POOP's beast friends?
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All Trew Kristyuns, funnyMENTALists, Grizian thugs, Pedrophiles and other
assorted Woohoo Wankers and Poopers
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What is POOP's favourite bible verse?
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Mark 17:666 (Trew Kristyun Version )
A new Trew Kristyun commandment I give unto you, That you luv one another as
long as they are Trew Kristyuns ... hunt out the other heretical buggers in
a Trew Kristyun Inquisition and burn them alive at the stake ... in Trew
Kristyun luv.
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How does POOP discern if people are Trew
Kristyuns?
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They know who are Trew Kristyuns by their plonk.
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What are POOP's favourite websites?
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True Christian Church
http://www.truechristian.com/index.html
Landover Baptist ...Unsaved Unwelcome!
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
Broomleigh Baptist Church
http://church.broomleigh.org/
McChurch Tabernacle
http://www.mcchurch.com/
Lark News - "A good source for Christian news"
http://larknews.com/
Fundyland
http://fundyland.tripod.com/index.htm
Cheesy Jesus - Truly God awful stuff to buy
http://www.cheesyjesus.com/online-store/scstore/
Robert Tilton Video
http://strange.timetrip.net/?entry=tilton
People Against Fun
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/savesummer/paintdrying.asp
Christ's Love
http://www.christslove.com/cl1.htm
Bible Sex Stories
http://www.biblesexstories.com/
Virtual Pox
http://www.virtualpox.net/
Where's Christ?
http://www.fadetoblack.com/christ/christ2.htm
Jesus Dress up
http://www.jesusdressup.com/
Watch Paint Dry
http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/savesummer/paintdrying.asp
The End Of The Internet
http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
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Should one respond to POOP's rants?
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"It is not polite to greet someone who is making water or discharging his
bowels." (Erasmus in Colloquia) ...however it is advised that one answers
with the following Trew Kristyun Flame Template .....
**************************************************************************
Dear Trew Kristyun Pooper
Kissy kissy! Now you pucker up and greet me with a kiss. (Romans 6:16;
1Corinthians 16:20; 2 Corinthians13:12; I Thessalonians 5:26; 1 Peter 5:14.)
I am refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. You make silence
a wonderful thing to look forward to. However I took exception to your
recent scribble
It was:
[X] backmasked with Satanic messages
[X] Pagan
[X] New Age
[X] unChristian
[X] Secular Humanist
[X] written in King James English
[X] written in tongues and did not include the interpretation
Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
[X] You flamed the Archbishop of Canterbury
[X] You flamed the Pope
[X] You flamed God
[X] You contradicted Jesus
[X] You contradicted yourself several times
[X] You mindlessly chanted the Pente Mantra several times
[X] You repeatedly assumed unwarranted spiritual, moral or intellectual
superiority
My informed, considered, rational and logical answer to your scribble is in
the acronyms:
[X] AWGTHTGTTSA
[X] DBEYR
[X] DILLIGAD
[X] DQYDJ
[X] FUBAR
[X] GIGO
[X] HUYA
[X] LSHHTCMS
[X] NRN
[X] PMF
[X] SITD
[X] SOI
[X] TAFL
[X] VI
[X] YGBK
I'd explain them to you, but your brain would explode.
It is recommended that you:
[X] Buy an indulgence from me.
[X] Send me a triple tithe.
[X] Do penance.
[X] Devote your life to missionary work in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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17 Nov 2004 06:39:33 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
Ahhhhhhhh, be quiet and stop your perpetual whining.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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18 Nov 2004 07:34:05 AM |
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wrote in news:2prnp050cp9gr3rv1fg3mg0r83un07c7vb@4ax.com:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
Ahhhhhhhh, be quiet and stop your perpetual whining.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Wow! That's what I like. Short, sweet and to the point.
God Bless.
Tom.
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18 Nov 2004 09:27:46 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:34:05 -0600, Thomas Hankin
<thomas_hankin@yahoo.com> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
romath@romath.net wrote in news:2prnp050cp9gr3rv1fg3mg0r83un07c7vb@4ax.com:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
Ahhhhhhhh, be quiet and stop your perpetual whining.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Wow! That's what I like. Short, sweet and to the point.
God Bless.
Tom.
heheh!! Thanks -- you too, Tom :o)
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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18 Nov 2004 09:53:52 PM |
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wrote in
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:34:05 -0600, Thomas Hankin
<thomas_hankin@yahoo.com> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
wrote in
news:2prnp050cp9gr3rv1fg3mg0r83un07c7vb@4ax.com:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
Ahhhhhhhh, be quiet and stop your perpetual whining.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Wow! That's what I like. Short, sweet and to the point.
God Bless.
Tom.
heheh!! Thanks -- you too, Tom :o)
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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LOL! You are most welcome.
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18 Nov 2004 09:12:52 PM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:53:52 -0600, Thomas Hankin
<thomas_hankin@yahoo.com> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
romath@romath.net wrote in
news:rqfpp05v7hat85dfcc2rouf2t982693lp3@4ax.com:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:34:05 -0600, Thomas Hankin
<thomas_hankin@yahoo.com> done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these
here little old Usenet News'FROUPS:
romath@romath.net wrote in
news:2prnp050cp9gr3rv1fg3mg0r83un07c7vb@4ax.com:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
Ahhhhhhhh, be quiet and stop your perpetual whining.
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Wow! That's what I like. Short, sweet and to the point.
God Bless.
Tom.
heheh!! Thanks -- you too, Tom :o)
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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LOL! You are most welcome.
Thanks, Tom.
I like Vera, and see no reason why certain parties should be carrying
on this way about her, so...........!!! :O)
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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18 Nov 2004 07:33:28 AM |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:34:25 +1100, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Mark T" <mark@home.in.oz> pontificated:
Let's get to the important parts.
"::: vera :::" wrote:
Just let me know where and I will report him, too.
As rare as a Fundamentalist who loves her enemy.
Kept as evidence against Vera and forwarded on to my ISP.
Typical CULT tactic. Silence those who oppose you ratbaggery!
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"::: vera :::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
there is a good chance to stop the two, as there
is enough evidence for their character assassination and even threats in
the usenet. All can read it.
David M.P.P.'s actions - as much as those of Mark Tindall - have become a
political item. The right of free speech does not mean to be able to
insult or harrass other people as much as one pleases.
::: vera :::
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::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de :::
::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm :::
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Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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17 Nov 2004 02:31:01 PM |
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NiTeHaWK <nitehawk@netaccess.co.nz> wrote in message news:<1100587016.797017@kyle.snap.net.nz>...
The Ten Commandments and other laws for the people who ALREADY walk on the
path of God:
1) I am the Lord they God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
2) Though shalts not take the name of the Lord in vain.
3)Keep holy the sabbath
4) Honor your father and mother
5) Do not kill
6) Do not commit adultery
7) Do not steal
8) Do not lie
9) Do not take your neighbor's wife
10) Do not take your neighbors possessions
1) You shall have no other gods before me
2) You shall not make idols
3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
5) Honour your father and your mother
6) You shall not murder
7) You shall not commit adultery
8) You shall not Steal
9) You shall not Bear false witness (lie)
10) You shall not covert (want) you heighbours house (things).
"Things" like women?
The new law:
Love eachother as I have loved you. As I have loved you, so must you love
one another. Through this, people will see that you are sent from Me."
There were two of these given, the first was to "love the Lord your God with
all your heart and all your soal" and the other was "love your neighbour
as yourself"
These didn't replace the law, but were mearly a summary of the law.
If you really love God with all your heart and your soul you won't want
to...
1) Have another God
2) make an idol
3) use the Lords name in vain
and you will want to..
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
And if you love everyone unconditionaly..
Then you will
5) Honour your parents
and you won't want to...
6) Kill anyone
7) commit adultery
8) Steal
9) Lie
or
10) wont the guys next door Holden HSV GTO V8 car or anything else of his.
There really was no better way for Jesus to sum up the law then...
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your soul"
and "Love your neighbour as yourself"
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17 Nov 2004 09:45:53 PM |
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FearRua wrote:
NiTeHaWK <nitehawk@netaccess.co.nz> wrote in message news:<1100587016.797017@kyle.snap.net.nz>...
The Ten Commandments and other laws for the people who ALREADY walk on the
path of God:
1) I am the Lord they God, thou shalt not have strange gods before Me.
2) Though shalts not take the name of the Lord in vain.
3)Keep holy the sabbath
4) Honor your father and mother
5) Do not kill
6) Do not commit adultery
7) Do not steal
8) Do not lie
9) Do not take your neighbor's wife
10) Do not take your neighbors possessions
1) You shall have no other gods before me
2) You shall not make idols
3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
5) Honour your father and your mother
6) You shall not murder
7) You shall not commit adultery
8) You shall not Steal
9) You shall not Bear false witness (lie)
10) You shall not covert (want) you heighbours house (things).
"Things" like women?
Actully no, woman are not possesions. I never have thought this way and
never will
The new law:
Love eachother as I have loved you. As I have loved you, so must you love
one another. Through this, people will see that you are sent from Me."
There were two of these given, the first was to "love the Lord your God with
all your heart and all your soal" and the other was "love your neighbour
as yourself"
These didn't replace the law, but were mearly a summary of the law.
If you really love God with all your heart and your soul you won't want
to...
1) Have another God
2) make an idol
3) use the Lords name in vain
and you will want to..
4) Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy
And if you love everyone unconditionaly..
Then you will
5) Honour your parents
and you won't want to...
6) Kill anyone
7) commit adultery
8) Steal
9) Lie
or
10) wont the guys next door Holden HSV GTO V8 car or anything else of his.
There really was no better way for Jesus to sum up the law then...
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your soul"
and "Love your neighbour as yourself"
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17 Nov 2004 01:22:46 PM |
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(Western World) wrote in message news:<17264-419944C7-209@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net>...
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
Uh, no. First of all, it *doesn't* say that. The first commandment
introduces the basic principle of monotheism, for the Jewish
communities surrounded by 'pagan' religions to remember and uphold.
It is also a 'captatio benevolentiae', a typical rhetoric device,
which makes perfect sense since the first mention of the commandments
is a speech by God to Moses (but you knew that, obviously). The fact
that monotheism excludes the very idea of any kind of different deity
is not immoral, it is logical.
Secondly, the punishments mentioned in the Old Testament have less to
do with the idea of 'cheating on God' than they are about gratitude
(Exodus), honesty (Saul) etc. The commandment to follow God at all
times is first and foremost a call to uphold these values. Again,
there is logic behind this: if - as Christians do - you believe God to
be good, than faith and dishonesty are mutually exclusive and
therefore faith is to be commended. It hardly gets any more logical
than this.
IN A FREE NATION, the principles of liberty give us the right to worship
or believe as we wish. We can print and say what we wish. The people
of the BibleGod hate that liberty stuff!!!.
Not quite. You're getting carried away by the Old Testament
rethorics: reading the Bible in its literary and historical context
might be a clue here. God called Samuel several times, before Samuel
decided to take a look, walked up to Him and said: 'Here I am.' That
doesn't strike me as particularly pushy. And the Baal priests had
every right and opportunity to come forward and try their magic on the
sacrifice of Samuel. It didn't work out for them, but that was hardly
God's fault. Mary's first reaction to the Annunciation was one of
wholehearted consent, rather than of reluctant acceptance. Again, man
*chose* to follow God.
Have you ever heard anyone say that freedom is attained thru the eye of
a needle? NOPE!!!
The fact that the statement hasn't been made (which I seriously doubt)
doesn't make it wrong. Freedom, as millions of people around the
world will tell you, is a dear thing, usually acquired through
suffering and hardship. I'm not sure you're getting this simile,
either.
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty. Kept slaves.
Didnt want women to vote. Homophobic fools. Hated Copernicus and
Darwin!
Generalising isn't the solution. Individuals within the Christian
community and the Church have made mistakes, are still doing so and
will probably do so again, that's what you get with human beings.
Calling those errors the failure of christianity is ridiculously out
of proportion. It would be tantamount to calling your way of
reasoning the failure of the entire school system of whatever your
country is.
The American constitution in the 6th article even goes so far as to say
your religion means nothing as far being a public servant. NO RELIGIOUS
TESTS when almost 1500 years of Christian dictatorship on belief systems
(Council of Nicea - 325 to 1787) demanded a NICENE-TRINITARIAN
DECLARATION as a response to a religious test.
Again, you're quoting isolated historical events to assess thousands
of years of tradition and worship. Let's turn it around: if those
facts are all that went wrong in Judaic-Christian history, I'd say
we've done a pretty good job. And as for comparing the US to
Christianity: the current rate of American *****-ups (Iraq, to mention
but one) surely is *unique* in history.
Even the American colonies bigoted themselves against Catholics by
saying that the Protestant religion was the religion of that colony.
Every colony but VA and NY made Protestantism, JUST LIKE ENGLAND, the
religion of the land. Section 94 of the massachusetts Body of Liberties
(1641) even prescribed DEATH for unbelieving or blasphemy!!
I fail to see how quoting a pretty unfortunate Protestant claim could
discredit Catholicism, but whatever makes you happy.
How immature and primitive the first commandments are.
I beg to differ. The values enshrined in them cover pretty much all
aspects of daily life: family values, property, social contact,
private worship,... If you truly think that honoring your parents or
respecting your neighbour's belongings are immature, I'm not sure
who's the primitive one here.
Your child emperor in the sky says in the end "JUST ME OR ELSE I WILL
BURN YOU IN HELL!"
You already claimed that. He didn't.
Its SO IMMORAL and ILLOGICAL!
You already said that. It isn't.
There is no logical support for your belief system.
Then why don't you come up with some informed and balanced reasoning
to prove that, instead of spouting cheap slogans about things that you
evidently don't know anything about? If logic is your idol, than
you're a pretty sorry excuse for a follower. Opinion building starts
with information.
"Blind faith makes blind people"
Now that IS true. Too bad your barking up the wrong tree. Keep
trying.
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15 Nov 2004 08:15:42 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:07:35 -0500,
Tales_of_the_Western_World@webtv.net (Western World) wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
He is the Giver of life; He alone is qualified and authorized to take
it.
IN A FREE NATION, the principles of liberty give us the right to worship
or believe as we wish. We can print and say what we wish. The people
of the BibleGod hate that liberty stuff!!!.
Rubbish. There are as many Christians in the military as anywhere
else, Godly men and women who die in battle to DEFEND your right to be
a God-hating, good-hating religious bigot.
In fact, I have MUCH more tolerance for your bs than you have for my
faith.
Have you ever heard anyone say that freedom is attained thru the eye of
a needle?
NOPE!!!
Apples and doorknobs.
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty.
Ridiculous. While Jesus didn't personally preach against slavery, Paul
did. Jesus stuck with the basics; Paul branched out. He said in
Christ, there is no male nor female (they're equal/no pecking order),
there
is no rich or poor; there is no slave or free; there is no Jew or
Gentile (black / white). We are all EQUAL in Christ.
And the Christians in America LED the WAY to EMANCIPATION. Are you
aware that Harriet Beecher Stowe (Uncle Tom's Cabin) was an
anti-slavery Christian crusader?
Kept slaves.
Don't you DARE demand that today's Christians pay for the mistakes of
our ancestors of CENTURIES ago.
Didnt want women to vote.
Again, ridiculous.
Homophobic fools.
There is no "fear" of homosexuals in Christianity. God considers
homosexuals spiritually/ physically "unclean", and we are taught to
HATE the SIN, NOT the sinner.
Hated Copernicus and
Darwin!
We are taught to "hate the sin, love the sinner."
So you are simply lying now.
The American constitution in the 6th article even goes so far as to say
your religion means nothing as far being a public servant. NO RELIGIOUS
TESTS when almost 1500 years of Christian dictatorship
Do not call the apostate, heretical Roman Catholic Church "Christian",
and do not blame all that murder and torture and heresy on Christians.
on belief systems
You are TRULY showing your bigotry and ignorance now. You are also
demonstrating signs of demon possession; demons cause people to lie
and to hate as you demonstrate.
(Council of Nicea - 325 to 1787) demanded a NICENE-TRINITARIAN
DECLARATION as a response to a religious test. No declaration meant NO
JOB!
Again, the Roman Catholics are not a Christian church in any
historical sense.
Even the American colonies bigoted themselves against Catholics by
saying that the Protestant religion was the religion of that colony.
Every colony but VA and NY made Protestantism, JUST LIKE ENGLAND, the
religion of the land. Section 94 of the massachusetts Body of Liberties
(1641) even prescribed DEATH for unbelieving or blasphemy!!
How "modern" of these colonists!
AGAIN, you choose to libel today's Christians by pointing to ANCIENT
HISTORY.
Shall we analyze all YOUR sins of the last 40 years or so? Starting
with your anti-Christian bigotry and hatred? Continuing on with your
pathological lying?
(Then came the American Enlightenment with its Greco-Roman classical
roots!!! YEEHAW!!)
How immature and primitive the first commandments are.
How immature and bigoted you are.
jw
snipped the rest of your vomit.
God bless!
j w
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16 Nov 2004 05:51:53 AM |
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message news:r3oip0terar7r8fpig7cvre9595dhr3q59@4ax.com...
Tales_of_the_Western_World@webtv.net (Western World) wrote:
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
He is the Giver of life; He alone is qualified and authorized to take
it.
That's right. If He doesn't like you, He'll squash you like the insolent
insect you are!
IN A FREE NATION, the principles of liberty give us the right to worship
or believe as we wish. We can print and say what we wish. The people
of the BibleGod hate that liberty stuff!!!.
Rubbish. There are as many Christians in the military as anywhere
else, Godly men and women who die in battle to DEFEND your right to be
a God-hating, good-hating religious bigot.
What if instead of hating God, you just don't believe in him in the first
place? And on top of that, what if you actually love good? Of course,
JW might insist no such persons are possible. Poor JW, he needs to get
out of his cardboard box with a computer terminal and socialize in the
real world a bit!
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty.
Ridiculous. While Jesus didn't personally preach against slavery, Paul
did. Jesus stuck with the basics; Paul branched out. He said in
Christ, there is no male nor female (they're equal/no pecking order),
there is no rich or poor; there is no slave or free; there is no Jew or
Gentile (black / white). We are all EQUAL in Christ.
Yeah, of course that's after the slaves make it to heaven. While the
slaves are here on earth, Paul says they must obey their massas.
And the Christians in America LED the WAY to EMANCIPATION. Are you
aware that Harriet Beecher Stowe (Uncle Tom's Cabin) was an
anti-slavery Christian crusader?
In America in the first half of the 1800's, there was only a very tiny
fraction of the Christian world opposing slavery. And that, you
slack jawed, drooling idiot porn writer, is a historical fact. Not only
that, I was a kid in the Bible Belt in the early 60's, in Southern Baptist
country. These white southern Baptists were remarkably silent about
the civil rights issues for black people, and some of them even openly
opposed any attempts at integration.
Don't you DARE demand that today's Christians pay for the mistakes of
our ancestors of CENTURIES ago.
Hey JW, go ***** a duck. Your piece of ***** religion was a mistake centuries
ago and it's a mistake today.
Didnt want women to vote.
Again, ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is you, JW.
Homophobic fools.
There is no "fear" of homosexuals in Christianity. God considers
homosexuals spiritually/ physically "unclean", and we are taught to
HATE the SIN, NOT the sinner.
Yeah, split people into two sections. Set up one hypothetical part
you can "hate" - all the while proclaiming your love for the person.
You are a fucking moron, JW.
You are TRULY showing your bigotry and ignorance now. You are also
demonstrating signs of demon possession; demons cause people to lie
and to hate as you demonstrate.
Hehe. Anyone JW doesn't agree with is a demon! You're a funny guy JW, even
when you're not trolling the net for incest pornography!
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16 Nov 2004 04:22:11 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:51:53 GMT, "ChuckkPF" <nospam1c@nospam2.com>
wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message news:r3oip0terar7r8fpig7cvre9595dhr3q59@4ax.com...
Tales_of_the_Western_World@webtv.net (Western World) wrote:
The first commandment says, just like a weakminded and soft-spined child
or weak man who NEEDS ATTENTION:
"JUST ME! I am jealous! Worship me OR I will kill you"! (lots of
scripture to PROVE THAT!!!)
He is the Giver of life; He alone is qualified and authorized to take
it.
That's right. If He doesn't like you, He'll squash you like the insolent
insect you are!
Well, there ARE intermediate steps. First, He'll send you a dozen
warnings. Consider this one of them.
If you resist NUMEROUS warnings, He'll deal with it. However, this
being the age of Love, He is patient.
IN A FREE NATION, the principles of liberty give us the right to worship
or believe as we wish. We can print and say what we wish. The people
of the BibleGod hate that liberty stuff!!!.
Rubbish. There are as many Christians in the military as anywhere
else, Godly men and women who die in battle to DEFEND your right to be
a God-hating, good-hating religious bigot.
What if instead of hating God, you just don't believe in him in the first
place?
I think many/most would agree with me that there is no distinction. If
you simply don't believe, why make all this noise in a group of people
who DO believe?
Just go on about your atheist business and leave us believers to our
business!
And on top of that, what if you actually love good?
Not possible. God is the Ultimate Good, and you don't even recognize
His existence or His love for you.
Of course,
JW might insist no such persons are possible.
That is my belief.
Poor JW, he needs to get
out of his cardboard box with a computer terminal and socialize in the
real world a bit!
You do not know me. Kindly keep the personal rhetoric to yourself. I
have lived too many years on this earth to put up with such childish
snickering from the peanut gallery.
Christianity is antithetical to democracy and liberty.
Ridiculous. While Jesus didn't personally preach against slavery, Paul
did. Jesus stuck with the basics; Paul branched out. He said in
Christ, there is no male nor female (they're equal/no pecking order),
there is no rich or poor; there is no slave or free; there is no Jew or
Gentile (black / white). We are all EQUAL in Christ.
Yeah, of course that's after the slaves make it to heaven.
That's not what the Bible says. And Paul encouraged one of his
initiates who owned a runaway slave to release the slave. The slave
was rightfully the man's, but Paul prevailed on the man to do the
"Christian thing" and release the an.
While the
slaves are here on earth, Paul says they must obey their massas.
Why do you haters quote PART of a teaching and not all of it? Don't
you know a partial truth is a lie?
I believe it was Jesus who also taught that. Paul ALSO said that
masters should
1. be kind to their slaves
2. take good care of their slaves
3. love them in Christ as He first loved us
4. give SERIOUS consideration to not owning slaves.
Even today's pastors know that it is IMPOSSIBLE to ORDER any believer
to do ANYTHING. The pastor can ONLY ENCOURAGE good behavior.
And the Christians in America LED the WAY to EMANCIPATION. Are you
aware that Harriet Beecher Stowe (Uncle Tom's Cabin) was an
anti-slavery Christian crusader?
In America in the first half of the 1800's, there was only a very tiny
fraction of the Christian world opposing slavery.
Once again, the atheist phony sidesteps the point that sticks him to
attempt to jab another point of his own.
If you will not respond to my points, I will not respond to yours.
And that, you
slack jawed, drooling idiot porn writer, is a historical fact.
I am none of the above, demon, and you have just slammed the door on
further communication, which I am sure was your intent.
Come back with the same respect with which you were treated, and we
MIGHT continue.
jw
God bless!
j w
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