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02 May 2004 08:34:40 AM |
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Floating out of body experiences! |
Is There Life After Death?
Seattle Doctor Specializes In Near-Death Experiences
POSTED: 9:01 am EDT April 30, 2004
UPDATED: 9:29 am EDT April 30, 2004
The NBC 10 Investigators tracked down a doctor in Seattle whose
research may come closer to anyone else to answering the question, is
there life after death?
Is There Life After Death?
Dr. Melvin Morse is a pediatrician who used to think that people who
were interested in near-death experiences just wanted to be on
television talk shows.
But something happened to one of his patients that changed his
opinion. Now he believes the evidence points to something after life.
Most scientists will explain that near-death experiences are caused by
the lack of oxygen in the brain in the last moments of life.
But Dr. Morse believes he's found evidence that it is a glimpse of
something beyond our existence.
"I interviewed a 6-year-old boy," said Dr. Morse. "We resuscitated
him. He opened his eyes and he dramatically said, 'That was weird, two
guys just sucked me back into my body.'"
Dr. Morse is a respected pediatrician. He was a skeptic about the
issue of life after death until he was confronted with a story he
couldn't explain away.
"She was what you would call clinically dead," explained Morse. "She
was under water for 19 minutes."
After the 7-year-old girl was resuscitated, she started drawing
pictures.
"What she described to me was not a hallucination. It was a
blow-by-blow accurate description of her own resuscitation, but from a
bird's eye point of view," said Dr. Morse.
The child believed she had to go back to her body to help her mother
with her unborn brother. She drew her unborn brother with a big red
heart. Several months later her brother was born with heart disease.
"How can dying, comatose patients perceive anything? That's what
fascinated me," said Dr. Morse. "I knew that something important about
human consciousness was to be learned."
Dr. Morse has recorded dozens of interviews with children who have
experienced near death. He says he finds the experiences with children
to be the most pure.
Dr. Morse says he doesn't believe in God himself and he has little
interest in the experiences many adults often have reflecting their
own religious beliefs and cultures.
Critics say it is because Christians tend to see Jesus and Indians see
Hindu gods, the near-death experience doesn't seem scientifically
credible.
Social worker Kimberly Clark Sharp says she couldn't come to terms
with her own out of body, near-death experience until one of her own
patients had one.
Sharp's patient went into cardiac arrest. After she was resuscitated,
the patient insisted she had risen out of her body and floated up
around the hospital where she saw a blue tennis shoe on the third
floor ledge.
To calm down her patient Sharp went to look. "I did find a blue tennis
shoe on the ledge," said Sharp. "She got everything right as she
described it to me."
"It's clear even when people are flat lining in the last moments of
life, something profound is happening," said Dr. Morse. "It is
something today's monitors can't pick up."
Dr. Morse's findings have been published in medical journals and he's
working to see if something physically changes in the right temporal
lobe of the brain when someone has a post-death experience.
"One child told me it was a light who told her who she was and where
she was to go," said Dr. Morse. "I want to interact with that light
that tells us who we are and where we are to go while we're still
alive. That to me is a challenge of the near-death experience."
Dr. Morse believes you can get in touch with that part of the brain
through prayer, meditation, even the rhythmic movement of knitting.
There's no absolute proof, but he believes that people who have that
near death experience are stepping into another realm.
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The amount of evidence that this event is more than just a
halucination continues to mount, and yet still they try to find some
other explanation for it. I personally have experienced 2 out of body
experiences and what I will tell you is that they are as real as your
everyday life except you do not have a body. You can see others around
you as well as able to see spiritual beings if they are around.
An interesting fact that I would like to mention at this point is that
about 22 years ago I remember seeing a film where these doctors
weighed a person that was dying and after that person had died (see
http://www.artbell.org/duncan.html ) that body became lighter for no
apparent reason. The reason that I remembered that fact was that just
recently(March 2000) I met a nurse who is studying for her masters in
nursing and she also mentioned that it was a documented fact that the
body loses weight hours after death and the reason for this is still a
bit of a mystery. My best guess for this mystery is that it is due to
the spirit leaving the body and that is something that I, and
countless others also have had first hand experience of.
I see and hear on TV and read on the internet and in books about many
other people who have had similar near-death experiences as I have had
and have met one person who related her vision that she had had to me.
These out of body experiences should not be actively sought out as
there is a very real danger of being deceived by these spirits once
your spirit is in that realm enabling you to see more then just your
physical surroundings.
I have read articles from those that practice the occult and they have
told of their encounters with demons and fallen angels which is why we
have so much of this gods and goddess beliefs in our society. Demons
seem to bring negative energies such as fear into a persons life and
want to co-inhabit/dominate a persons body while the fallen angels
seem to be more interested in being worshipped as God and appear as
glorious spiritual entities.Those fallen angels that created the
demons were locked up in hell so I guess that is why the other fallen
angels would rather not interfer with mankind on such a personal
levels as these demons. Whether through deception, fear or coercion
the fallen angels or demons will try and make you abandon the true God
to follow them.
Relating from my own two experiences of my spirit leaving my body and
from what I've read on this matter this much I can tell you and that
is if your spirit leaves your body then anything you meet outside your
body is more than likely from the devil's kingdom especially if you
find yourself going into a dark tunnel first.
As the first time I experienced a out of body experience I also
experienced an inner body experience straight after I know that these
two events were different from each other and this inner body
experience was an amazing experience in itself. This inner body
experience is where I saw Christ and these visions(including the one
related to me which I am certain is an inner body experience) have
been written out for you below. ( If your wondering what it feels like
to have your spirit out of your body then the best way to explain it
is to say it's very similar to asking what the difference is between
being clothed and not clothed-your still who you are but your just a
bit more lighter. )
God is a very loving God and if he can save one of you by letting a
lot of misery come your way he will. God gave man the ability to
choose. Without God in control mans way of doing things ends in sheer
madness, but how would we know that if we weren't allowed that choice
and allowed to see the results of that choice?. All of us whether we
follow God or not enjoy the things that our loving God has created for
us in this physical life but that won't be the case after we die. If
you don't want to spend eternity with God and the love that he has for
us, you won't have to.
Eternity without God is HELL!
The visions given to Paul Martus
Just after I turned 21, I was sitting and staring at a small bottle
trying to imagine pictures out of the contents of the bottle (like
cloud watching), when my spirit floated out of my body. I could see my
body still looking at the small bottle and in what felt like a
fraction of a second I was drawn back into my body and had a sense of
traveling very far, very quickly, once my spirit was within my body.
It was like being shot like a bullet into what seemed like a tunnel of
bright white light and the best example I can give is when the
spaceships on Star Trek hit warp drive. When I finally stopped, I was
in a wide flat area in front of a giant of a man with bright white
hair, beard and clothes (His whole being shone with light) . All
around me I could see in the distance a white glow and heard singing
but I couldn't understand the words. Jesus looked at me as a father
looks at his child when a child won't live the way he should and told
me to "Go back". I knew it was Jesus not because He told me or I
recognised him from some picture but because my spirit simply just
knew.
Back in my body I thought to myself, pretty weird, and was about to
pass it off as one of those things that happens, when suddenly, I
started hearing that singing again and felt my spirit starting to
separate from my body again. As soon as I realized that what had
happened was very real the singing and the separating stopped.
The second out of body experience happened when I was about 29 and was
camped with a group of friends. My spirit floated out of my body and I
could see myself, my friends and the area around us. I noticed behind
me a man sitting on a tree branch and turned towards him but he never
looked directly at me for the time we talked. He seemed pretty
friendly at first and told me to join him (think this demon's
intention was to let itself into my body but couldn't do it without my
permission) and the more I refused to join him the angrier he got.
This was scary stuff especially since he said that if I didn't join
him he would destroy my friends but I replied that God would protect
them and as I didn't know what else to do I prayed the Lord's prayer
(Our Father...) and my spirit came back into my body and I breathed a
sigh of relief.
The vision given to Jeanne Russell on July 1995.
I was in heaven with Jesus and we were talking as He was setting
places at his banqueting tables. There were so many tables there that
they were impossible to count- reaching far beyond the furthest
horizons. They all had name places set before them, and peoples from
all tribes and nations were gathered there.
However, lots and lots of chairs were empty, even though name places
were clearly set there for them. I could see mine- JEANNE FIDDEN,and I
asked my Lord, "Why the FIDDEN, when I was now Russel?" and He
replied, "These places are set for them-but they refused to come to My
banqueting tables-They were ALL invited as you can see, but by their
own free will they refuse to come!" Then Jesus told me to write this
down, and tell others. So I am telling you! He also asked me to add, "
Your place is set will you be there?"
I am still in a very dark tunnel, so dark and seemingly drowning in
despair. I knew a way out myself - taking things out of God's hands
and into my own hands. Then God the Father spoke to me in the garden-
"If you do that, I'll have to rearrange the table settings. Take your
place from the table reserved for the people of great faith, and place
you further down where the people of little faith sit. Wouldn't you
rather sit with friends you know intimately around your table, than to
have Me place you with complete strangers?
End
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Floating out of body experiences! |
02 May 2004 09:27:00 PM |
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On 2 May 2004 06:34:40 -0700,
(martus) spake thusly:
Is There Life After Death?
Seattle Doctor Specializes In Near-Death Experiences
Sharp's patient went into cardiac arrest. After she was resuscitated,
the patient insisted she had risen out of her body and floated up
around the hospital where she saw a blue tennis shoe on the third
floor ledge.
To calm down her patient Sharp went to look. "I did find a blue tennis
shoe on the ledge," said Sharp. "She got everything right as she
described it to me."
Quite a testimony. :)
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