Religions > Bible > Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to be Utterly CRUEL!
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"Craig Chilton" |
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21 Oct 2003 09:06:43 PM |
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Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to be Utterly CRUEL! |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:38:09 GMT,
"Robert T. Simpson" <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Posted: October 21, 2003
6:36 p.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
With only a few hours remaining before she
slips beyond the point where she can be saved,...
Hopefully NOT, for HER sake. Especially if she has conscious
awareness, and is TRAPPED in the interminable and unthinkable
**hell** and **torment** of knowing what's going on, and being totally
unable to respond. Hour upon hour, day after day, month after month, for
13 long YEARS already. And **now**, thanks to a collection of mindless
and selfish assholes, NO relief from that in sight! What a ***HORRIBLE***
condition that would be!
Florida lawmakers delivered Gov. Jeb Bush
legislation empowering him to order Terri
Schindler-Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted and
the governor signed and implemented the ...
law two hours later.
Thus PROVING that both the majority of Florida's legislators AND
our Warmonger-in-Thief's unscrupulous brother are inhuman and cruel,
total horses' asses!
I guess there's no surprise THERE!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "dpr" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
23 Oct 2003 09:47:43 PM |
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"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UCVlb.10315$Tr4.29684@attbi_s03...
"Calvin Rice" <oscwr@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:22680de.0310231002.8f427e8@posting.google.com...
But about the topic at hand, all we have is the
husband's claim that she would want the plug pulled. We have heard
enough
about the husband to know that he is not likely to be a truth teller.
We've heard that from sources that aren't objective, to put it mildly.
Did
you know that Mr. Schiavo went back to school to get qualified as a
respiratory therapist so that he could help Terri?
That is not true. She does not need any help with respiration.
Did you know that he
works at a nearby hospital so that he can visit her frequently?
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently. In fact he is
raising a different family right now, and has been for many years.
Did you
know that he made a nuisance of himself harrassing the nurses to get the
best possible care for her?
He is the one who prevented medical staff from giving her the care she
needed when she came down with infections.
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| User: "M is for Malapert" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
25 Oct 2003 10:44:04 PM |
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vph48vbi42ufe@corp.supernews.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UCVlb.10315$Tr4.29684@attbi_s03...
We've heard that from sources that aren't objective, to put it mildly.
Did
you know that Mr. Schiavo went back to school to get qualified as a
respiratory therapist so that he could help Terri?
That is not true. She does not need any help with respiration.
Sure she does. I realize that she's not on a respirator but she does need
daily respiratory therapy.
Did you know that he
works at a nearby hospital so that he can visit her frequently?
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently.
Please cite some of it.
In fact he is
raising a different family right now, and has been for many years.
That's not incompatible with visiting her. As far as I know, her siblings
are also raising families and yet are able to visit her frequently. Please
don't tell me you agree with that pious crap about his wedding vows. He is
a young man and naturally wants to have a family, which doesn't mean he
doesn't still care about Terri either.
Did you
know that he made a nuisance of himself harrassing the nurses to get the
best possible care for her?
He is the one who prevented medical staff from giving her the care she
needed when she came down with infections.
So the people who are slandering him left and right say, at least. (Which
is not necessarily to say that she *should* have been given antibiotics if
she developed pneumonia, for instance.)
You seem to be getting your information from Johnny-come-lately "Save Terri"
websites that have appeared since this became the right wing cause du jour.
I'm getting mine from court documents. Guess which of the two are more
credible.
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| User: "dpr" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
25 Oct 2003 11:46:56 PM |
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"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:8qHmb.30182$Fm2.13623@attbi_s04...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vph48vbi42ufe@corp.supernews.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UCVlb.10315$Tr4.29684@attbi_s03...
We've heard that from sources that aren't objective, to put it mildly.
Did
you know that Mr. Schiavo went back to school to get qualified as a
respiratory therapist so that he could help Terri?
That is not true. She does not need any help with respiration.
Did you know that he
works at a nearby hospital so that he can visit her frequently?
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently.
Please cite some of it.
The news.
In fact he is
raising a different family right now, and has been for many years.
That's not incompatible with visiting her.
It shows he does not care about her. If he did care he would finish the
divorce that Terri wanted, and marry the mother of his children, and leave
Terri alone.
Did you
know that he made a nuisance of himself harrassing the nurses to get
the
best possible care for her?
He is the one who prevented medical staff from giving her the care she
needed when she came down with infections.
So the people who are slandering him left and right say
And the hospitals where she was admitted.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
26 Oct 2003 08:35:05 AM |
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In article <vpmk07p52ois6a@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Subject: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life
From: "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, alt.bible, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.usa.republican, talk.abortion
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:8qHmb.30182$Fm2.13623@attbi_s04...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
news:vph48vbi42ufe@corp.supernews.com...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UCVlb.10315$Tr4.29684@attbi_s03...
We've heard that from sources that aren't objective, to put it mildly.
Did
you know that Mr. Schiavo went back to school to get qualified as a
respiratory therapist so that he could help Terri?
That is not true. She does not need any help with respiration.
Did you know that he
works at a nearby hospital so that he can visit her frequently?
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently.
Please cite some of it.
The news.
For instance?
Do you mean this news?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101244,00.html
If not, what news *do* you mean?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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26 Oct 2003 12:35:44 PM |
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dpr <&^%@&^%.com> wrote:
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in message
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently.
Please cite some of it.
The news.
Looked. Saw that you're lying.
You lose.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
24 Oct 2003 05:23:56 PM |
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In article <vph48vbi42ufe@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
"M is for Malapert" <minxs@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:UCVlb.10315$Tr4.29684@attbi_s03...
"Calvin Rice" <oscwr@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:22680de.0310231002.8f427e8@posting.google.com...
But about the topic at hand, all we have is the
husband's claim that she would want the plug pulled. We have heard
enough
about the husband to know that he is not likely to be a truth teller.
We've heard that from sources that aren't objective, to put it mildly.
Did
you know that Mr. Schiavo went back to school to get qualified as a
respiratory therapist so that he could help Terri?
That is not true.
What is your evidence for that flat denial?
She does not need any help with respiration.
What is your evidence for that flat denial?
Did you know that he
works at a nearby hospital so that he can visit her frequently?
All evidence points that he does not visit her frequently.
What is your evidence?
In fact he is
raising a different family right now, and has been for many years.
And?
What relevance has that?
Did you
know that he made a nuisance of himself harrassing the nurses to get the
best possible care for her?
He is the one who prevented medical staff from giving her the care she
needed when she came down with infections.
Was he carrying out *her* prior stated (DNR) wishes in that? and if you
say 'no', what is your evidence?
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| User: "Galen Hekhuis" |
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23 Oct 2003 04:52:45 PM |
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I wonder if any of these "family values" folks realize that the family
begins with the husband and wife. Or the irony of all of this during all
this "defense of marriage" hullabaloo. But I'm sure those folks can give
me one thousand and one reasons why this has nothing to do with that, those
that think at all. I am also reminded of a friend of my mother's, a
retired nurse, who not only had a living will but also kept a Do Not
Resuscitate note on her 'fridge. Anyway, she was still conscious as she
was being wheeled into the ER yelling "don't intubate me!" She awoke with
a feeding tube in her. She was a nurse and awake to boot! I guess the
best you can hope for is good drugs...
Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
A penny saved gathers no moss
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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24 Oct 2003 05:20:25 PM |
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In article <22680de.0310231002.8f427e8@posting.google.com>,
says...
Subject: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life
From: (Calvin Rice)
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, alt.bible, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.usa.republican, talk.abortion
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote in message news:<3f97d42c.471529854@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
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The more I read these newsgroups the more I realize that many people
have no concept of what the reponsibilities of marriage are, what an
oath is, or what moral principles are.
Yes, you're wonderful. If I ever meet you I hope you will allow me to
kiss your superior *****. But about the topic at hand, all we have is the
husband's claim that she would want the plug pulled.
Precisely what reason have you for doubting that they had discussed this
and that was her wish?
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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23 Oct 2003 05:23:26 PM |
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On 23 Oct 2003 11:02:30 -0700, (Calvin Rice) wrote:
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote in message news:<3f97d42c.471529854@news.la.sbcglobal.net>...
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The more I read these newsgroups the more I realize that many people
have no concept of what the reponsibilities of marriage are, what an
oath is, or what moral principles are.
Yes, you're wonderful. If I ever meet you I hope you will allow me to
kiss your superior *****. But about the topic at hand, all we have is the
husband's claim that she would want the plug pulled. We have heard enough
about the husband to know that he is not likely to be a truth teller.
Hearsay evidence, from people with an interest in taking his rights
and responsibilities away from him. He is the husband. Marvelous
how those who keep *claiming* to be for marriage try their damnest to
take away the rights and respoinsibilties of marriage.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value humanlife |
22 Oct 2003 01:19:55 AM |
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dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
22 Oct 2003 02:22:11 PM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value humanlife |
22 Oct 2003 02:24:11 PM |
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Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
22 Oct 2003 06:35:23 PM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F96D956.E10F31E2@citlink.net...
Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
Careful. There's that "would" word again.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
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| User: "Hylander" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
22 Oct 2003 10:46:08 PM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F96D956.E10F31E2@citlink.net>...
Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
According to her parents, I recall hearing she can squeeze hands and
smile back at close family. She squeezed hard when asked once
indicating she wanted to live.
According to her husband, she wanted a broken neck too.
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| User: "Frank Dwyer" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to valuehuman life |
23 Oct 2003 02:34:09 AM |
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Hylander wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F96D956.E10F31E2@citlink.net>...
Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
According to her parents, I recall hearing she can squeeze hands and
smile back at close family. She squeezed hard when asked once
indicating she wanted to live.
Does squeezing hard mean "yes" or "no"?
According to her husband, she wanted a broken neck too.
uh huh
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| User: "Chris" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
23 Oct 2003 11:57:10 AM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F978472.D9AD42CC@citlink.net...
Hylander wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:<3F96D956.E10F31E2@citlink.net>...
Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube
restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer,
and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder,
and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I
say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
According to her parents, I recall hearing she can squeeze hands and
smile back at close family. She squeezed hard when asked once
indicating she wanted to live.
Does squeezing hard mean "yes" or "no"?
Better question is WHAT means "yes or no"?
According to her husband, she wanted a broken neck too.
uh huh
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| User: "Hylander" |
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| Title: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life |
26 Oct 2003 01:29:21 AM |
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Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F978472.D9AD42CC@citlink.net>...
Hylander wrote:
Frank Dwyer <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F96D956.E10F31E2@citlink.net>...
Chris wrote:
"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
news:3F962187.3F989AC0@citlink.net...
dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
"Would" is hypothesis contrary to fact. What DOES she want?
According to her husband, she would want to die.
According to her parents, well... they have yet to say they've asked
her. They seem only concerned with what they want.
According to her parents, I recall hearing she can squeeze hands and
smile back at close family. She squeezed hard when asked once
indicating she wanted to live.
Does squeezing hard mean "yes" or "no"?
It is probably pre-arranged meaning.... I know that when I got a hand
squeeze from a patient....it meant yes. Shaking the hand or an evasive
movement usually means no.
According to her husband, she wanted a broken neck too.
uh huh
You can read about that in the court records. There never was a desire
to terminate Terri also until the medical malpractice suit was
awarded. Interesting that you'd now have a means motive and
opportunity at this point. As well as a deliberate and temporarily
effective attempt.
I can understand euthanasia better even than starving someone as their
way of "natural" death. If I were to die naturally, I'd rather not be
simultaneiously suffering dehydration and malnutrition. However, under
Terri's circumstance...there is no degeneration or prospect of natural
death as long as feeding continues as far as I can tell. I know
someone who remained vegetative until their 80s. They are just like
the handicapped. It seems Peter Singer and Judge Greer must be
buddies.
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22 Oct 2003 08:32:20 PM |
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"Frank Dwyer" <fdwyer@citlink.net> wrote in message
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dpr wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3fa6f236.36823791@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:40:07 GMT,
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
"dpr" wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert T. Simpson <rtsimpson2003@excite.com> wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35197
Jeb Bush
intervenes
Florida governor signs last-minute
legislation, orders feeding tube restored
to Terri Schiavo
Good, now it is time to arrest the Husband, his lawyer, and
that
idiot judge and have them charged with attempted murder, and
conspiracy to commit murder.
Right on.
ROTFL!!!! Two peas in the same loathesome, bigoted,
and ignorant pod!
We are not the one's who want to starve another human to death.
Who cares what we want, what about what Terri wants... or should I say
*would* want?
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living will, so we cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know her best, and
that would be her parents and siblings.
And as it appears that Terri was a rational person before her mysterious
injuries that put her in this state, she more than likely would not have
chosen to starve herself to death.
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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25 Oct 2003 06:56:39 AM |
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In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living will, so we cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know her best, and
that would be her
....spouse.
Her next of kin.
Or is the spouse *not* the next of kin in the US?
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25 Oct 2003 01:26:20 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know her best, and
that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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25 Oct 2003 07:36:17 PM |
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
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| User: "Pat Winstanley" |
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25 Oct 2003 08:11:44 PM |
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In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
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| User: "dpr" |
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25 Oct 2003 08:49:14 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a052faf2dad526d98b58b@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
And pat the baby killer who is posting from the UK does not even have any
reason to be involved in a discussion over a lady in Florida.
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| User: "Bob" |
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25 Oct 2003 10:49:19 PM |
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in news:vpm9iumsl8ttae@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a052faf2dad526d98b58b@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
And pat the baby killer who is posting from the UK does not even have any
reason to be involved in a discussion over a lady in Florida.
Can't argue with the facts so you just try to change the subject? Typical
anti-choice zealot.
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26 Oct 2003 08:15:14 AM |
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In article <vpm9iumsl8ttae@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Subject: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life
From: "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, talk.abortion, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.bible
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a052faf2dad526d98b58b@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
And pat the baby killer
I do hope you can back up your murder allegation about me... but
unfortunately for you, you can't...
Which means YOU are committing an offence...
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| User: "dpr" |
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26 Oct 2003 04:37:22 PM |
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"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a05e749fd0d716698b59e@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpm9iumsl8ttae@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Subject: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to
value human life
From: "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, talk.abortion, alt.politics.usa.republican,
alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.bible
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a052faf2dad526d98b58b@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
And pat the baby killer
I do hope you can back up your murder allegation about me...
Your posts prove it. Now our little irresponsible little twit what shall you
do now.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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26 Oct 2003 04:34:33 PM |
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"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vpoin5qsruao7c@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a05e749fd0d716698b59e@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
I do hope you can back up your murder allegation about me...
Your posts prove it.
you got caught lying again. that is why you could provide no
evidence to support your false claim.; a common, christian, anti-
choice, republican event.
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| User: "HateFeminism" |
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27 Oct 2003 09:04:07 PM |
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Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article <vpm9iumsl8ttae@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com says...
Subject: Re: Florida Legislature, Governor Bush, PROVE themselves to value human life
From: "dpr" <&^%@&^%.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, talk.abortion, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.bible
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a052faf2dad526d98b58b@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <Xns941FD197C2887keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>,
keegan@nycap.rr.com says...
"dpr" <&^%@&^%.com> wrote in
news:vplfkk40qn2pcd@corp.supernews.com:
"Pat Winstanley" <wallopcods2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a047551ec87b1498b539@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
In article <vpebfllkhb3jb4@corp.supernews.com>, &^%@&^%.com
says...
Which is the whole problem. She did not leave a living
will, so we
cannot
know how she would have felt. So we look to those who know
her best, and that would be her
...spouse.
Family. I.E. her parents.
your ignorance is showing.
spouse first, then children, then parents.
how old are you?
Well exactly! ;-))
Perhaps dpr is still a minor under the thumb (legally) of his/her
parents? :-))
It's clear dpr has never been married or in a similar relationship!
And pat the baby killer
I do hope you can back up your murder allegation about me... but
unfortunately for you, you can't...
Sure he can. You prove you're a baby killer by dehumanizing unborn
children right up till birth.
Which means YOU are committing an offence...
Nothing could be an offense when done against you, cynical *****.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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27 Oct 2003 09:40:54 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:04:07 +1300,
"HateFeminism" (The only person I know who
is STUDID enough to ADMIT his mindless
bigotry in the very alias he uses!) wrote:
Pat Winstanley wrote:
You prove you're a baby killer by dehumanizing
unborn children right up till birth.
"Unborn children." ROTFL!!!! Ever heard of FETUSES?
BTW, since ALL **babies** have been BORN, your nonsensical
rants are better suited for alt.infanticide.
You really are QUITE the idiot, aren't you. bigoted loser...?
Which means YOU are committing an offence...
Nothing could be an offense when done against you,
cynical *****.
...and you just keep right on PROVING it.
Which is great! Since the more that jerks like you prove this to the
general public, the more nails are hammered into your hateful agenda
against women and human rights.
Yoiu couldn't do the right to choose abortion more good if you
were a PRO-Choicer.
Works for me!!
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "HateFeminism" |
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27 Oct 2003 09:55:48 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:04:07 +1300,
"HateFeminism" (The only person I know who
is STUDID enough to ADMIT his mindless
bigotry in the very alias he uses!) wrote:
Mindless!?!!!!
WHY HATE FEMINISM?
It's best to understand feminist reactionaries in their own words:
"How will the family unit be destroyed? ...[T]he demand alone will throw
the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin
establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight
collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become
economically independent, either through a job or welfare." -Roxanne
Dunbar in "Female Liberation"
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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape,
originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage
meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but
possession of, or ownership." (Andrea Dworkin)
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"In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because
women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" --
Catherine MacKinnon in "Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales From The
Strange World of Women's Studies"
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"No woman should be authorised to stay at home and raise her children.
Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice,
precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make
that one."
Simone de Beauvoir
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Comparing Feminists to Nazis...
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/r/roberts/03/roberts081203.htm
"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at
approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart,
in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.
"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a
decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by
an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction
of the population of males." --Mary Daly, former Professor at
Boston College, 2001.
These proposals are disturbing in their own right. What is even
more troubling is that no feminist has ever repudiated them.
When feminists call for global "decontamination" by phasing-out
men, I can't help but think of the lies and accusations leveled
against the Jews in Nazi Germany, and the similarities to
contemporary gender feminism:
1. Biological superiority: The National Socialists preached the
genetic superiority of the Aryan race. Now, a feminist-oriented
World Health Organization website claims that women enjoy an
"inherent biological advantage."
2. Sub-human: In the 1930s, the Jews were called vermin and
"Judensau" (Jew-pig). Thirty years later, feminists referred to
men as "male chauvinist pigs."
3. Conspiracy theory: The Jews were often accused of "working
together" to pollute German culture. Now, feminists refer to the
so-called conspiracy against women as "the patriarchy."
4. Excessive influence: Seventy years ago, Jews were accused of
controlling the German economy. Now, men are accused of "having
all the power."
5. Threat to the greater welfare: The Jews were blacklisted as
toxic to German culture. In the present era, Gloria Steinem
writes, "The most dangerous situation for a woman is....a husband
or lover in the isolation of their own home."
6. Faulty science: Just as Hitler's propagandists once dismissed
Albert Einstein's discoveries as "Jewish physics," feminist
scholars now ridicule male scientific breakthroughs as the
product of "linear" and "hierarchical" thinking.
7. Spread of a dread disease: In Nazi Germany, Jews were falsely
accused of spreading of untreatable syphilis. Now, UNICEF
director Carol Belamy unfairly blames men for the spread of AIDS
in Africa.
8. Sexual contact: Hitler was obsessed with keeping Jewish men
from "defiling" the racial purity of Aryan women. Now, according
to Catherine McKinnon, "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual
intercourse is rape."
But the most fascinating parallel between Germany in the 1930s
and the current era lies in the conscious use of deception to
sway public opinion.
In her brilliant exposé, Who Stole Feminism?, Christina Hoff
Sommers documents the many fabrications of gender feminism.
Indeed, the entire ideological foundation of feminism rests on
what columnist Wendy McElroy calls the "Great Lie" -- the
wrong-headed notion that women are the eternal victims of
male-dominated culture.
The feminist Great Lie echoes the infamous passage from Mein
Kampf that says, "The size of the lie is a definite factor in
causing it to be believed....The primitive simplicity of their
minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small
one."
The effect of the Nazi accusations was to convince the German
public and the world at large that Jews were not part of
humanity, and thus not deserving of fundamental human rights.
Once the dehumanization and demoralization of the Jews was
complete, the stage was set for the horrors that were to commence
in 1939.
So what does the future hold for the male species?
Carey Roberts
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Now Chilton, give us a quote from a mainstream feminist (one that's
appeared on Oprah, say, just to make it EASIER...snicker) condemning the
views of these feminists.
Pat Winstanley wrote:
You prove you're a baby killer by dehumanizing
unborn children right up till birth.
"Unborn children." ROTFL!!!! Ever heard of FETUSES?
Yep, that's what I'm talking about:
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/
CHILD.
Inflected forms: chil·dren (´). Abbrev. ch. 1. A
person between birth and puberty. 2. a. AN UNBORN
INFANT; A FETUS. b. An infant; a baby. 3. One who is
childish or immature. 4. A son or daughter; an
offspring....
FETUS.
Inflected forms: fe·tus·es. 1. The UNBORN young of a
viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural
resemblance to the adult animal. 2. In HUMAN BEINGS,
the UNBORN young from the end of the eighth week after
conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished
from the earlier embryo.
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Abortion Related Legal Terms
(from Black's Law Dictionary, 6th ed., 1990)
Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. UNBORN or recently
born human being. Wilson v. Weaver, 358 F.Supp. 1147, 1154. . . . .
Rights of UNBORN child. The rights of an unborn child are recognized
in various different legal contexts; e.g. in criminal law, murder
includes the unlawful killing of a fetus (Cal.Penal Code §187), and
the law of property considers the unborn child in being for all
purposes which are to its benefit, such as taking by will or
decent....
En ventre sa mere. L.Fr. In its mother's womb. A term descriptive
of an unborn child. For some purposes the law regards an infant en
ventre as in being. It may take a legacy; have a guardian; an
estate may be limited to its use, etc. 1 Bl.Comm. 130. LaBlue v.
Specker, 358 Mich. 558, 100 N.W.2d 445, 447.
Unborn child. The individual human life in existence and
developing prior to birth. A child not yet born at the hap-
pening of an event. A child not yet born at the time of an
injury to his mother which causes the child to suffer an injury
may recover in most jurisdictions after birth if the child were
viable in his mother's womb at the time of the defendant's
wrongdoing....
BTW, since ALL **babies** have been BORN, your nonsensical
rants are better suited for alt.infanticide.
False. See above, malefeminist.
You really are QUITE the idiot, aren't you. bigoted loser...?
Which means YOU are committing an offence...
Nothing could be an offense when done against you,
cynical *****.
...and you just keep right on PROVING it.
Which is great! Since the more that jerks like you prove this to the
general public, the more nails are hammered into your hateful agenda
against women and human rights.
Yoiu couldn't do the right to choose abortion more good if you
were a PRO-Choicer.
Works for me!!
What a pity your (self-)delusions don't work for anyone else!
-- Craig Chilton
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