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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "IknowHimDoYou"
Date: 11 Oct 2003 11:23:30 AM
Object: Foundational Sources
Foundational Source
The Christian has a bound book called the Bible:

It does not change and is applicable for every situation and for every
person at all times.
It is used as a guide for developing our relationship with God(the author)
and others.
It has been in existance and use for a long time and is in many languages
for all to read.
It is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.
It is infallible, truth and the author is unimpeachable in integrity.
It is timeless and will stand forever.
The evolutionary religionists(ER) have only loose leaf notebooks:
They change constantly and no two ever agree.
They have no purpose and are completly disorganized.
They teach anarchy and survival of the fittest and prevent right relationships.
They are filled with fairy tales and myths with no basis of truth or reality.
They masquerade as operational science when they are actually pseudo science.
Which source guides you?
.

User: "Frank Reichenbacher"

Title: Re: Foundational Sources 11 Oct 2003 12:01:05 PM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-1110030923300001@pm8-01.kalama.com...

Foundational Source

The Christian has a bound book called the Bible:

It does not change and is applicable for every situation and for every
person at all times.
It is used as a guide for developing our relationship with God(the author)
and others.
It has been in existance and use for a long time and is in many languages
for all to read.
It is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.
It is infallible, truth and the author is unimpeachable in integrity.
It is timeless and will stand forever.

The evolutionary religionists(ER) have only loose leaf notebooks:

They change constantly and no two ever agree.
They have no purpose and are completly disorganized.
They teach anarchy and survival of the fittest and prevent right

relationships.

They are filled with fairy tales and myths with no basis of truth or

reality.

They masquerade as operational science when they are actually pseudo

science.



Which source guides you?

Truth depends on the quality of the binding?
Frank
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User: "Zachriel"

Title: Re: Foundational Sources 11 Oct 2003 01:13:35 PM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-1110030923300001@pm8-01.kalama.com...

Foundational Source

The Christian has a bound book called the Bible:

When did the "binding" occur?

It does not change and is applicable for every situation and for every
person at all times.
It is used as a guide for developing our relationship with God(the author)
and others.
It has been in existance and use for a long time and is in many languages
for all to read.
It is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.
It is infallible, truth and the author is unimpeachable in integrity.
It is timeless and will stand forever.

The evolutionary religionists(ER) have only loose leaf notebooks:

They change constantly and no two ever agree.
They have no purpose and are completly disorganized.
They teach anarchy and survival of the fittest and prevent right

relationships.

They are filled with fairy tales and myths with no basis of truth or

reality.

They masquerade as operational science when they are actually pseudo

science.



Which source guides you?

.

User: "Thore Schmechtig"

Title: Re: Foundational Sources 11 Oct 2003 12:16:53 PM

The Christian has a bound book called the Bible:
It does not change and is applicable for every situation and for every
person at all times.
It is used as a guide for developing our relationship with God(the author)
and others.
It has been in existance and use for a long time and is in many languages
for all to read.
It is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.

(Partially) true, depending on the specific circumstances.

It is infallible, truth and the author is unimpeachable in integrity.

Absolutely wrong. As you well know, or else you would not defend it
with such _ridiculous_ zeal. Unfortunately (for you), the more you
cling to a crumbling pillar, the faster you _make_ it crumble. But
well, go ahead to make the mature Christians look like fools... not my
problem.

It is timeless and will stand forever.

The bible perhaps (well, probably). At least as far as mere humans can
predict "forever". Its fundamantalist madmen, worshipping it as their
idol, will (hopefully) NOT prevail!

The evolutionary religionists(ER) have only loose leaf notebooks:

Ah, wanna bet the usual lies are about to follow?

They change constantly and no two ever agree.

Yep, a lie. By the way, what good is agreement if the result is wrong,
eh?

They have no purpose and are completly disorganized.

Yeah, another lie.

They teach anarchy and survival of the fittest and prevent right relationships.

Much too vague a statement to think about even for one second. "right
relationships" = ???

They are filled with fairy tales and myths with no basis of truth or reality.

Oh yes, try as hard as you can to believe this... because if you ever
realize the truth (that your belief in the creation myth is wrong from
beginning to end) you have NOTHING left. And you know it yet.

They masquerade as operational science when they are actually pseudo science.

*snicker* care to provide what we all are waiting for since
who-knows-how long (EVIDENCE for creationism)? There's tons of evidence
out there for the theory of evolution, whether you try to ignore it or
not...

Which source guides you?

Justice and reason. Your source obviously is still bigotry and
ignorance. Pity you weren't born in the medieval dark ages - that's
where you would fit in.
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN (FUNDAMENTALIST - added by Tocis)
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.
.

User: "David Jensen"

Title: Re: Foundational Sources 11 Oct 2003 03:02:30 PM
In alt.talk.creationism,
(IknowHimDoYou) wrote
in <IknowHim-1110030923300001@pm8-01.kalama.com>:

Foundational Source

The Christian has a bound book called the Bible:

Fascinating assertion. Let's see if any of them are correct.

It does not change and is applicable for every situation and for every
person at all times.

Your claim appears to echo the requirements of the Koran that it never
be translated, but even it changes as culture changes. The Bible is
older, for older cultures, written in languages that are no longer in
use. Even those who read the Bible in the original language, cannot be
certain that they understand what is meant, because of these changes
over time.
One wrong.

It is used as a guide for developing our relationship with God(the author)
and others.

The Bible is not written by God.
Two wrong.

It has been in existance and use for a long time and is in many languages
for all to read.

The Bible was written in the local languages of the time. I am not aware
of anyone who claims that the translations were inspired.
No credit.

It is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.

It is not useful for science or history.
No credit.

It is infallible, truth and the author is unimpeachable in integrity.

Asserted without confirmation.
No credit.

It is timeless and will stand forever.

Asserted without evidence.
No credit.
None correct so far.

The evolutionary religionists(ER) have only loose leaf notebooks:

No such thing exists, and the poster knows it, but let's look at the
claims:

They change constantly and no two ever agree.

Improvements in understanding do require change. Disgreements tend to be
at the beginnings of new discoveries.
Vaguely correct, but the spin gives you no credit.

They have no purpose and are completly disorganized.

Unsupported claim.
No credit.

They teach anarchy and survival of the fittest and prevent right relationships.

This is the kind of dishonesty that forces me to conclude that you
cannot possibly be a Christian. Your Satanic lies are contemptible.

They are filled with fairy tales and myths with no basis of truth or reality.

Unsupported claim.
No credit.

They masquerade as operational science when they are actually pseudo science.

Unsupported claim.
No credit.

Which source guides you?

If Christianity were really what you represent, it would have been
obliterated as a great evil centuries ago. Thankfully, you are not and
do not represent Christianity.
I will be guided by knowledge and integrity. You have shown that
whichever way you go is the wrong way. You are an enemy of science,
truth, knowledge and Christ.
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