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"Pastor Dave" |
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17 Aug 2007 04:41:26 PM |
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FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
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A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
21 Aug 2007 10:13:02 AM |
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"Pastor Dave"
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
Your problem is that you make *yourself* the issue, rather
than the subject matter being discussed. In other words, you
turn the discussion into *personal matters.* That is always
bound to create hostility and defensiveness. If you want to
discuss things in a friendly way, you must show yourself to
*be* friendly!
randy
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 12:00:51 AM |
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"Pastor Knave" < SATAN @nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:tc5cc31i65lp12e1j21raha86h0hbh39rt@4ax.com...
So, Satan, you're the liar, and you're now a futurist?
Or is that a lie too.
His,
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http://tinyurl.com/2hf6ak
ho echon hota akoueto
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a
little child, he shall not enter therein. (Matt 10:15)
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| User: "Abrams1117" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
17 Aug 2007 05:12:40 PM |
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On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
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A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
But stupid, you knew that stupid and didn't care stupid,
because you're just as much of a lying ***** as Randy is.
And then stupid, you are stupid enough to claim that
I'm the one who is dishonest.
You're a lying jack *****, who cowers from every word
I write and relies on furthering lies about me. Gee,
I wonder why? Could it be that it's because my
doctrine is false as you claimed? yea, I'm sure
that's it! BAWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
END QUOTE
Seek professional help today.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
17 Aug 2007 06:54:17 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:12:40 -0700, Abrams1117
<John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
You're a liar and a coward.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "Chuck Stamford" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
17 Aug 2007 10:35:15 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n8dcc317tmllmp82o0s0t3m93jit5i4cia@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:12:40 -0700, Abrams1117
<John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
You're a liar and a coward.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are! It's you against
the world, Dave, and just because you think everyone else is a lying coward,
it doesn't mean you are....right?
You belong to an elite group, Dave. The few, the proud, the preterists. It
takes a special sort of mind to be able to remain completely unaffected by
the veritable OCEAN of evidence there is that preterism is false; to stand
firm as the tides of this enormous body of data swirl around you, and with
the last words you can utter before it completely overwhelms you, covering
your pie hole, scream out your frustrations, "FUTURISTS ARE LIARS".
Chuck Stamford
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 08:29:39 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:35:15 -0700,
in article <1Otxi.47583$xx1.36502@newsfe09.phx>,
"Chuck Stamford" <shell__stamford@cox.net> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n8dcc317tmllmp82o0s0t3m93jit5i4cia@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:12:40 -0700, Abrams1117
<John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
You're a liar and a coward.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are! It's you against
the world, Dave, and just because you think everyone else is a lying coward,
it doesn't mean you are....right?
You belong to an elite group, Dave. The few, the proud, the preterists. It
takes a special sort of mind to be able to remain completely unaffected by
the veritable OCEAN of evidence there is that preterism is false; to stand
firm as the tides of this enormous body of data swirl around you, and with
the last words you can utter before it completely overwhelms you, covering
your pie hole, scream out your frustrations, "FUTURISTS ARE LIARS".
Chuck Stamford
HA HA HA HA HA! Correct!
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
17 Aug 2007 11:45:22 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:35:15 -0700, "Chuck Stamford"
<shell__stamford@cox.net> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n8dcc317tmllmp82o0s0t3m93jit5i4cia@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:12:40 -0700, Abrams1117
<John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
You're a liar and a coward.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are!
Listen, stupid....
1) You said that the last time you responded to me
was going to be the last time.
2) You have just argued that majority opinion = truth.
By your reckoning, evolution is true.
3) Why do you keep making the same statements,
when they have already made you look stupid?
It's you against the world, Dave
No, it's you and the rest of the Dispy's against truth.
But thanks for again showing how lame your doctrine is.
You have no argument to make, so you try to claim that
because most people are as stupid and naive as you are,
that means you're right. <chuckle>
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A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "Chuck Stamford" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 12:18:54 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:35:15 -0700, "Chuck Stamford"
<shell__stamford@cox.net> wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n8dcc317tmllmp82o0s0t3m93jit5i4cia@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:12:40 -0700, Abrams1117
<John1117@peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:41 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
'PASTOR' quote:
You're a liar and a coward.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are!
Listen, stupid....
Now you're talking to yourself?
1) You said that the last time you responded to me
was going to be the last time.
No. I said the last time I responded to you would be the last time I tried
to get through to you. I never said or implied I wouldn't comment on your
profoundly disturbed rants from time to time.
2) You have just argued that majority opinion = truth.
By your reckoning, evolution is true.
And, of course, this is distrubed ranting at it's finest.
3) Why do you keep making the same statements,
when they have already made you look stupid?
Probably has something to do with the reason people watch car races;
something to do with a perverse expectation of disaster lurking just around
the next corner, and being there to see it happen.
It's you against the world, Dave
No, it's you and the rest of the Dispy's against truth.
But thanks for again showing how lame your doctrine is.
On what planet would it be true that anything either of us has said here
could be accurately characterized as "showing how lame your doctrine is"?
Certainly not earth!
You have no argument to make,
And this is where the truth gets thrown on the altar of your preteristic
fantasies. The truth is you've had many many arguments made by me persented
to you, not ONE of which you've ever managed to even undercut, much less
refute.
Chuck Stamford
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 09:46:27 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:18:54 -0700, "Chuck Stamford"
<shell__stamford@cox.net> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are!
2) You have just argued that majority opinion = truth.
By your reckoning, evolution is true.
And, of course, this is distrubed ranting at it's finest.
When you can't face up to your own words,
it is cowardice.
3) Why do you keep making the same statements,
when they have already made you look stupid?
Probably has something to do with the reason people watch car races;
Thank you for admitting it.
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A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "Chuck Stamford" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
19 Aug 2007 12:21:00 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:nd1ec3l7o2qnq3iqem1t3018p8uipto78a@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:18:54 -0700, "Chuck Stamford"
<shell__stamford@cox.net> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
And isn't it fascinating just how many of us there are!
2) You have just argued that majority opinion = truth.
By your reckoning, evolution is true.
And, of course, this is distrubed ranting at it's finest.
When you can't face up to your own words,
it is cowardice.
Because you lack the ability to understand my words doesn't mean I don't.
3) Why do you keep making the same statements,
when they have already made you look stupid?
Probably has something to do with the reason people watch car races;
Thank you for admitting it.
Any time.
Chuck Stamford
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 10:05:09 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:46:27 -0400,
in article <nd1ec3l7o2qnq3iqem1t3018p8uipto78a@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
When you can't face up to your own words,
it is cowardice.
Thanks for your confession. The Bible shows the culmination
of Christ's return will be the salvation of all Israel:
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is
written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn
godlessness away from Jacob.
You claim the culmination of Christ's return was the
destruction of Jerusalem and a million Jews, which is
Hitleresque:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:01:36 GMT,
in article <k98sf2hmhdp1i7etf5hcvn1gbmf1rj4bpl@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <_-ananias917-_@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
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What I hope to show in this article is that the 2nd
Coming of Jesus was an event that occurred over a 3 1/2 year
period, the culmination of which was the destruction of
Jerusalem.
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:01:36 GMT,
in article <k98sf2hmhdp1i7etf5hcvn1gbmf1rj4bpl@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <_-ananias917-_@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
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Hopefully, I have shown that the 2nd Coming of Jesus was
actually the 3 1/2 year period that the Romans waged war
against Jerusalem.
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:43:10 GMT,
in article <41ega190ake4ks2a21cnsjg2sutu2segh5@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
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Again, who did the lord of the vineyard come back
and destroy?
Thus, "the people of the Prince" is the Roman army
that God used to judge Jerusalem. People think
that for it to be Jesus' people, it has to be either
Jews, or Christians. It doesn't. God used Assyria
to judge Egypt. Was Assyria a Christian nation?
No. Yet, that was God's people for that job. Just
as the Roman army was "the people of the Prince",
because God was using them to judge Jerusalem.
**************************************************************
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Chuck Stamford" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
19 Aug 2007 12:24:07 AM |
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"®andy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lg2ec3ti40alh8mi9co0qupa05h4k5l49p@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:46:27 -0400,
in article <nd1ec3l7o2qnq3iqem1t3018p8uipto78a@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
When you can't face up to your own words,
it is cowardice.
Thanks for your confession. The Bible shows the culmination
of Christ's return will be the salvation of all Israel:
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is
written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn
godlessness away from Jacob.
You claim the culmination of Christ's return was the
destruction of Jerusalem and a million Jews, which is
Hitleresque:
I don't know about the "Hitleresque" characterization holding true, but this
is an EXCELLENT point against preterism per se. Do more of this!
Chuck Stamford
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:01:36 GMT,
in article <k98sf2hmhdp1i7etf5hcvn1gbmf1rj4bpl@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <_-ananias917-_@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
What I hope to show in this article is that the 2nd
Coming of Jesus was an event that occurred over a 3 1/2 year
period, the culmination of which was the destruction of
Jerusalem.
**************************************************************
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:01:36 GMT,
in article <k98sf2hmhdp1i7etf5hcvn1gbmf1rj4bpl@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <_-ananias917-_@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
Hopefully, I have shown that the 2nd Coming of Jesus was
actually the 3 1/2 year period that the Romans waged war
against Jerusalem.
**************************************************************
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:43:10 GMT,
in article <41ega190ake4ks2a21cnsjg2sutu2segh5@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
**************************************************************
Again, who did the lord of the vineyard come back
and destroy?
Thus, "the people of the Prince" is the Roman army
that God used to judge Jerusalem. People think
that for it to be Jesus' people, it has to be either
Jews, or Christians. It doesn't. God used Assyria
to judge Egypt. Was Assyria a Christian nation?
No. Yet, that was God's people for that job. Just
as the Roman army was "the people of the Prince",
because God was using them to judge Jerusalem.
**************************************************************
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. ?2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 08:33:45 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:45:22 -0400,
in article <u5ucc3ht4aqtkgnhbemooiqep30i2h2vvj@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
Listen, stupid....
1) You said that the last time you responded to me
was going to be the last time.
2) You have just argued that majority opinion = truth.
By your reckoning, evolution is true.
He didn't just refer to the fact you're one of the few
scoffers (2 Peter 3) arrogant enough to believe the lies of
preterism, but that you do so while surrounded by a swirling
mass of data that proves otherwise.
3) Why do you keep making the same statements,
when they have already made you look stupid?
Thanks for your vicarious confession. Fact is, God will not
share glory with some idiot who boasts of a 151 IQ. The
smarter you think you are, the less likely it is you are
someone to whom God chose to reveal true wisdom (1 Cor. 1).
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "®andy" |
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| Title: Re: FUTURISTS ARE LIARS |
18 Aug 2007 07:50:34 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:41:26 -0400,
in article <tc5cc31i65lp12e1j21raha86h0hbh39rt@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
I think the subject line says it all. Futurists simply
cannot face up to what their belief means, nor the
contradictions within it.
You couldn't have made a more perfect vicarious confession.
Now go ahead and lie about me and claim I said
things I never said, never being able to quote me
saying what you claim and then twisting the words
that you can quote, pretending they mean what
you claim.
You're the liar. You claim all prophecy was fulfilled by A.D.
70, and that the destruction of Jerusalem and a million Jews
was the culmination of Christ's return. The Bible, on the
other hand teaches that when Christ comes, the salvation of
all Israel is the culmination of His return (Romans 11:26).
Preterists promote an almost perfect contradiction to every
Bible prophecy, then labor with brain-washing filibusting
lies, to convince you that's the case.
Then, as if that weren't enough, people like you are arrogant
enough to feign indignation, while you try and make a
vicarious atonement out of people other than Christ, for your
own sins.
©2007 pulpitfire.net, pulpitfire.org, pulpitfire.com
--
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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