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"Donna Kupp" |
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21 Jun 2007 09:01:58 AM |
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GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Jesus said:
"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which
cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. ... Do not ye yet
understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the
belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which
proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile
the man." Matt 15:11, Matt 5:17-18
The apostle Paul said this:
"For the kingdom of God is NOT MEAT AND DRINK; but righteousness, and
peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost." Romans 14:17
Very little is written in the Bible about gluttony. It can lead to
poverty and health problems; but If God is going to spiritually
punish his people for eating too much, then he would have told us
plainly what our duty is in the matter of eating.
All of our metabolisms are different and who can say when "gluttony"
begins when the scriptures are silent about it? Is it two servings
of mashed potatoes --or four?
(If we have food and don't share it with Christ's hungry brethren that
would be sin.) See Matthew 25:41-46
I believe that the accuser of the brethren has found a means to take
away joy from the people of God when he causes them to feel guilty
about enjoying the food that God has provided. Jesus enjoyed a good
meal with his friends. (He must have had a pretty good appetite,
too, because his enemies called him a glutton.)
To call gluttony "sin" is to trivialize sin. An extra piece of
chocolate cake can never rightly be compared to murder, adultery,
stealing, idolatry, profaning the Sabbath, etc.
"The Gospel Of Health Reform" that Ellen White promoted through The
Seventh Day Adventist Church is another gospel* than the gospel that
Jesus preached. Jesus and the apostles ate flesh-meat. Jesus was
without sin --or we could not have a Saviour. Furthermore, Jesus and
the apostles never taught anyone to abstain from meat or that
vegetarianism is required for salvation!
A lying, deceiving spirit has been exposed by the truth of God's
word. Just as evil spirits can inject thoughts into our minds, they
can also influence our emotions and the cravings and appetites of our
bodies. This is what I believe happens to many Christians:
1. A lying spirit has convinced them that gluttony is sin.
2. An evil spirit has influenced them to over-eat.
3. Then, the accuser of the brethren has accused them of sin.
If they can see this as a deception and an attack from the enemy,
their part is to reject these accusations and call upon the name of
the Lord. The battle is the Lords.
Donna Kupp
* Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let
him be accursed.
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| User: "Ben Mitts" |
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| Title: Re: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
21 Jun 2007 02:26:18 PM |
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Donna Kupp wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
So then, what do we do with the
Verses I offer below which speak to gluttony and
wine drinking.? Even Jesus Christ was accused of
being a glutton!
Methinks Donna, more time scrutinizing Scriptures
more in depth before making Statements about The
Bible that doesn't back you up would be more need-
ful
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Peace!
Sincerely,
Ben mitts :)
2) preach the word; be ready in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will
accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their
own desires, (4) and will turn away their ears from the truth
and will turn aside to myths.(2 Tim 4:2-4)
From The Word of God: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in
the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that
whoever believes may in Him have eternal life." Therefore we
may, as many will to do so: "But as many as received Him, to
them He gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in His name," (John 1:12)
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| User: "Ben Mitts" |
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| Title: Re: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
21 Jun 2007 04:37:36 PM |
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Ben Mitts wrote:
Donna Kupp wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
So then, what do we do with the
Verses I offer below which speak to gluttony and
wine drinking.? Even Jesus Christ was accused of
being a glutton!
Methinks Donna, more time scrutinizing Scriptures
more in depth before making Statements about The
Bible that doesn't back you up would be more need-
ful
Well Duh!!! Sorry Donna, here they are:
Deut 21:20
20 "They shall say to the elders of his city, 'This son of ours
is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a
glutton and a drunkard.'
Proverbs 23:1-3
1 When you sit down to dine with a ruler,
Consider carefully what is before you,
2 And put a knife to your throat
If you are a man of great appetite.
3 Do not desire his delicacies,
For it is deceptive food.
Prov 23:19-21
19 Listen, my son, and be wise,
And direct your heart in the way.
20 Do not be with heavy drinkers of wine,
Or with gluttonous eaters of meat;
21 For the heavy drinker and the glutton will come to poverty,
And drowsiness will clothe one with rags.
Philippians 3:18-19
18 For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you
even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ,
19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and
whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on
earthly things.
Luke 7:33-34
33 "For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and
drinking no wine, and you say, 'He has a demon!'
34 "The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and
you say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a
friend of tax collectors and sinners!'
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Peace!
Sincerely,
Ben mitts :)
2) preach the word; be ready in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will
accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their
own desires, (4) and will turn away their ears from the truth
and will turn aside to myths.(2 Tim 4:2-4)
From The Word of God: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in
the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that
whoever believes may in Him have eternal life." Therefore we
may, as many will to do so: "But as many as received Him, to
them He gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in His name," (John 1:12)
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| User: "Mark T moi@ere16" |
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| Title: Re: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
21 Jun 2007 05:28:08 PM |
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"Ben Mitts" <benmitts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
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Well Duh!!! Sorry Donna, here they are:
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Deut 21:20
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Proverbs 23:1-3
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Prov 23:19-21
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Philippians 3:18-19
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Luke 7:33-34
Well DOUBLE DUH!!!
NONE of them are commandments against BEING a glutton!!!
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brother Raca is liable to hell fire? Now you have the misfortune to lead
anyone who reads you into immediate temptation to call you Raca. ... "
(Voltaire -The Jesuit Berthia)
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| User: "Ben Mitts" |
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| Title: Re: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
21 Jun 2007 05:53:49 PM |
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Mark T wrote:
"Ben Mitts" <benmitts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
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Well Duh!!! Sorry Donna, here they are:
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Deut 21:20
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Proverbs 23:1-3
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Prov 23:19-21
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Philippians 3:18-19
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Luke 7:33-34
Well DOUBLE DUH!!!
NONE of them are commandments against BEING a glutton!!!
You really dont have a
clue in your life do you
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Peace!
Sincerely,
Ben mitts :)
2) preach the word; be ready in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will
accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their
own desires, (4) and will turn away their ears from the truth
and will turn aside to myths.(2 Tim 4:2-4)
From The Word of God: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in
the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that
whoever believes may in Him have eternal life." Therefore we
may, as many will to do so: "But as many as received Him, to
them He gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in His name," (John 1:12)
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| User: "Mark T moi@ere16" |
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| Title: Re: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! |
21 Jun 2007 07:31:55 PM |
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"Ben Mitts" <benmitts@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Well Duh!!! Sorry Donna, here they are:
Deut 21:20
Proverbs 23:1-3
Prov 23:19-21
Philippians 3:18-19
Luke 7:33-34
Well DOUBLE DUH!!!
NONE of them are commandments against BEING a glutton!!!
You really dont have a clue in your life do you
You really don't have a brain in your head, do you?
Pictures of Griz, Misty, Vera, Fervent, Žandy, Frank Roines, Ben Mitts and
widdle Chucky Stamford at
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/2007/06/weird-christians-at-altchristnetchristi.html
Griz cult members have the following unfortunate features:
- a distrust and fear of freedom
- a belief in the importance of authority and in controlling what people
believe
- a corresponding preference for obedience rather than love
- a desire to give people what they want rather than the truth
- a refusal to allow themselves to be in the least disconcerted when
confronted with the true nature of their fundamentalist religion
- a readiness to persecute and exclude anyone who is of a different
persuasion.
They prefer authority, obedience, and conformity over freedom, truth, and
dissent.
Key Characteristics of the Griz cult are [adapted from Joanne Ruhland
1995]:
- Content Which Is Authoritarian
- Indoctrinates / clones
- Unquestioning obedience / Leaders do not discuss questions
- Love and loyalty are the bottom line
- Indoctrination /Leaders' conclusions must be accepted.
- Emphasis on uniformity
- Elitist / accepts SOME Christians
- Hidden agenda
- Manipulates
- Leaders "lord" it over the flock
- Results in conformity, rigidity
- Allows one avenue of service ... serving their group
- Individual is responsible to leaders
- Leaders tell individual what God's will is
- Analytical thinking hindered
- Simplistic approach to life
- Pick your own bible verse to lead you / Choices must conform to leaders'
dictates, leaders' approval
Pictures of Griz, Misty, Vera, Fervent, Žandy, Frank Roines, Ben Mitts and
widdle Chucky Stamford at
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/2007/06/weird-christians-at-altchristnetchristi.html
Weird Christians I Have Met.
Fundamentalists can kiss my "left behind".
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity/ song covers & pics & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "Donna Kupp" |
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21 Jun 2007 02:37:43 PM |
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On Jun 21, 12:26 pm, Ben Mitts <benmi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Donna Kupp wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
So then, what do we do with the
Verses I offer below which speak to gluttony and
wine drinking.? Even Jesus Christ was accused of
being a glutton!
Methinks Donna, more time scrutinizing Scriptures
more in depth before making Statements about The
Bible that doesn't back you up would be more need-
ful
--
Peace!
Sincerely,
Ben mitts :)
2) preach the word; be ready in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will
accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their
own desires, (4) and will turn away their ears from the truth
and will turn aside to myths.(2 Tim 4:2-4)
From The Word of God: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in
the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that
whoever believes may in Him have eternal life." Therefore we
may, as many will to do so: "But as many as received Him, to
them He gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in His name," (John 1:12)
Donna writes:
I may have missed it; but me thinks, Ben, you didn't offer any
scriptural evidence to refute my post.
Donna Kupp
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info
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| User: "Mark T moi@ere16" |
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21 Jun 2007 03:13:48 PM |
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"Donna Kupp" wrote:
On Jun 21, 12:26 pm, Ben Mitts <benmi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Donna Kupp wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
So then, what do we do with the
Verses I offer below which speak to gluttony and
wine drinking.?
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I may have missed it; but me thinks, Ben, you didn't offer any
scriptural evidence to refute my post.
That's because there is none ... but that won't stop Ben claiming the
contrary. He's still combing his Strong's Concordance to find ANY verse on
gluttony.
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity/ song covers & pics & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "Kanda Jalen Eirsie" |
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| Title: GLUTTONY IS NOT SIN! - yes it is.... |
18 Jul 2007 09:21:56 PM |
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Greetings...
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:01:58 -0700, Donna Kupp <dkupp@charter.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Donna:
Yes - but In modern english - Sin is also 'To miss the bullseye" A score of 9.9 isn't
good enough... Just another drop of water over niagara falls....
Oh! Wait a minute! - there is plenty of scripture to indicate...
The Entire Book (poem) of Ecclesiastes is very much about Gluttony and It's relation to
sin...
Gluttony as you define it being related to "eating" which in the bible is very often used
as a metaphor for learning...
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but too much knowledge?
We shall see....
Vanity of Vanities... All is Vanity...
And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done
under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised
therewith. I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is
vanity and vexation of spirit.
That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be
numbered. I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have
gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had
great experience of wisdom and knowledge. And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to
know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Oh yes - Gluttony is sin. Even to Glut upon scripture....
Vanity, Vanity, Vanity! ALL is Vanity...
Thank you -Mr. Fales for being courageous and taking the chance and beating that Book
into our young stupid heads in a public government High School - where you were NOT
supposed to teach it! You said - If there is but one thing in all of english literature
you should memorize - it is this...
Mr. Fales - If you find yourself at the Great White Throne and are found wanting - Know
this =- there is at least one, and one the least, one who will testify to your good work -
I can only pray that it counts in your favor and You are Blessed. I stand or fall with
you - This I swear the testimony of the Word of God. My only Prayer...
ll
Kanda'
<>SPAM-KILLER<>- If you really want to contact me, then -
kandaje<at>bresnan<dot>net
Providing good honest memes - even if you don't get it yet..
You figure it out...
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Jun 2007 11:40:53 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:01:58 -0700, Donna Kupp <dkupp@charter.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
That's OT man-made stuff. To sin is to tell God "no" in Christianity.
And the 7 deadly sins, including gluttony, is a serious sin (mortal) when one is
so consumed by this human act that it is destructive to family and love of God.
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| User: "Donna Kupp" |
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21 Jun 2007 12:52:28 PM |
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On Jun 21, 9:40 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:01:58 -0700, Donna Kupp <d...@charter.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
Duke wrote:
That's OT man-made stuff. To sin is to tell God "no" in Christianity.
Donna writes: Sin is transgression of the Commandments of God. The
Ten Commandments are the law of the new covenant.
SINE QUA NON
The Latin term "sine qua non" is literally translated:
without which not. It refers to an indispensable condition
or necessity.
Without oxygen man cannot live - oxygen is the sine qua
non for human life.
Without understanding the OLD Covenant, A Bible student
cannot understand the NEW Covenant.
The shocking truth is that despite unequivocal Biblical
testimony many who believe in the Bible refuse to accept
the fact that the New Covenant is a renewal of the original
Covenant Yahweh made with Israel - the Ten Commandments -
nothing more and nothing less.
THE ORIGINAL COVENANT - TEN COMMANDMENTS
Deut 4:13
"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded
you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He
wrote them on two tablets of stone. (NKJ)
Nothing is stated more clearly in the Bible "...His
covenant...the ten commandments...on two tablets of
stone."
AND HE ADDED NO MORE:
Deut 5:22
"These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly, in
the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud,
and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; AND HE
ADDED NO MORE. And He wrote them on two tablets of
stone and gave them to me." (NKJ)
TEN COMMANDMENTS AND HE ADDED NO MORE!
And yet this simple truth is ignored or rejected by
the vast majority of those who claim that the Bible
is the word of God. The original Covenant was NOT
the 613 commandments, judgments and statutes stated
in the Torah - it was the 10 Commandments - period!
If one does not understand that fact it is impossible
to understand the teachings of Jesus, the apostles
and in particular the writings of Paul concerning the
New Covenant.
The laws of the "New Covenant" are exactly the same
as the original Covenant - the Ten Commandments. The
New Covenant is a renewal of the original - not a
replacement.
What is new about the New Covenant?
1. A new sacrifice.
OLD - ratified by the blood of animals
NEW - ratified by the blood of the Messiah
2. A new method of communication.
OLD - indirectly through the Priest
NEW - directly through the Spirit
3. A new way to write the law of Yahweh.
OLD - written on stone
NEW - written on the heart
If that is true then what did the apostle Paul
mean when he said:
Gal 3:19 "Wherefore then serveth the law? IT WAS
ADDED because of transgressions, till the seed
should come to whom the promise was made;"
Was Paul speaking of the Ten Commandments? Absolutely
not!
Paul was referring to the SECOND Covenant Yahweh made
with Israel AFTER THEY BROKE THE FIRST. -- not the
original Ten Commandment Covenant.
The Mosaic law was a second covenant (with a second set
of tablets) which was made with Israel before they
entered Canaan.
Deut 29:1
These are the terms of the covenant the LORD
commanded Moses to make with the Israelites
in Moab, IN ADDITION to the covenant he had made
with them at Horeb.
"...the covenant...in Moab...in addition...
There were TWO covenants made with Israel -
the first was the Ten Commandments "and he
added no more". The second was made in Moab
and included the 613 commandments, judgments
and statutes of the Mosaic law.
After they worshipped the idol, Yahweh was going to
destroy the Israelites, but Moses begged the Lord
for their forgiveness and the nation was allowed
a reprieve, but with a much stricter set of rules
designed to keep their minds on obedience to
Yahweh's law. This second covenant was the "yoke
of bondage."
That is what Paul meant when he said: "Why then the
law? It was added because of transgressions" The
Mosaic law was added to the original covenant
(the Ten Commandments) because of Israel's transgressions.
The "New Covenant" is the same as the original
covenant with a new method of administration
and a new sacrifice. A renewal of the prototype,
ratified by the the blood of the Messiah and
administered by the Spirit.
That simple truth is the Biblical sine qua non without
which it is impossible to understand these words of
the Messiah:
"For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is
shed for many for the remission of sins."
Harold and Donna Kupp
Notes:
THE ORIGINAL COVENANT
THAT WAS WRITTEN ON STONES
IS NOW ADMINISTERED BY THE SPIRIT 2 Cor 3:6-8
"...who also made us sufficient as ministers of the
new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit;
for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on
stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel
could not look steadily at the face of Moses because
of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing
away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more
glorious?" (NKJ)
THE NEW COVENANT IS WRITTEN ON THE HEART Heb 8:10
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house
of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put
My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts;
and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
(NKJ)
dk
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| User: "duke" |
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24 Jun 2007 05:09:40 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:52:28 -0700, Donna Kupp <dkupp@charter.net> wrote:
Duke wrote:
That's OT man-made stuff. To sin is to tell God "no" in Christianity.
Donna writes: Sin is transgression of the Commandments of God. The
Ten Commandments are the law of the new covenant.
Did you know that the 10 commandments were written on stone tablets?
Heb 8
10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
TEN COMMANDMENTS AND HE ADDED NO MORE!
Did you know that Jesus said:
John 13:34 (New International Version)
34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must
love one another.
THE NEW COVENANT IS WRITTEN ON THE HEART Heb 8:10
"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house
of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put
My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts;
and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
(NKJ)
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Not doing the perfect will of GOD is sin. |
21 Jun 2007 01:04:33 PM |
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brother duke wrote:
convicted neighbor Donna Kupp <dkupp@charter.net> wrote:
It may surprise you; but there is no scriptural authority to call over-
eating or gluttony a sin. Sin is transgression of the law.
That's OT man-made stuff. To sin is to tell God "no" in Christianity.
And the 7 deadly sins, including gluttony, is a serious sin (mortal) when one is
so consumed by this human act that it is destructive to family and love of God.
Yes, not doing that which is the perfect will of GOD is sin.
"These who do the will of MY Father are MY family." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
The brethen of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
.... we are simply forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May GOD continue to bless us in HIS mighty way making us healthier
(hungrier) than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
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| Title: Re: Not doing the perfect will of GOD is sin. |
21 Jun 2007 02:30:21 PM |
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On Jun 21, 11:04 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
Yes, not doing that which is the perfect will of GOD is sin.
"These who do the will of MY Father are MY family." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
The brethen of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
... we are simply forgiven:
Donna writes:
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the
transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4
Look at how Jesus compares doing the will of God with obeying the
word
of God ...
COMPARE:
"For whosoever shall DO THE WILL OF GOD, the same is my brother, and
my sister, and mother." Mark 3:35 (KJV)
WITH:
"And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are
these which HEAR THE WORD OF GOD, AND DO IT." Luke 8:21
You can be certain that if you willfuly disobey any of the Ten Words
of God, The Ten Commandments, you are not doing the perfect will of
God and you are not one of Christ's brethren.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep
his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Eccl 12:13
Donna Kupp
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Not doing the perfect will of GOD is sin. |
24 Jun 2007 08:02:54 PM |
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convicted neighbor Donna Kupp wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Yes, not doing that which is the perfect will of GOD is sin.
"These who do the will of MY Father are MY family." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
The brethen of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
... we are simply forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
convicted neighbor Donna wrote:
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the
transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4
Amen.
Only by knowing and doing the perfect will of GOD can we know that we
are not sinning.
"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen.
The Holy Spirit is GOD.
HE is the Great Counselor, Who helps Christ's brethren hear the Word
of GOD while others stumble about in the darkness. And HE even helps
Christ's brethren do HIS perfect will by guiding us in everything we
say, so, and write.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Look at how Jesus compares doing the will of God with obeying the
word of God ...
COMPARE:
"For whosoever shall DO THE WILL OF GOD, the same is my brother, and
my sister, and mother." Mark 3:35 (KJV)
Amen.
WITH:
"And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are
these which HEAR THE WORD OF GOD, AND DO IT." Luke 8:21
Amen.
What unifies the understanding of these two verses is the Holy Spirit,
Who is the Great Counselor.
You can be certain that if you willfuly disobey any of the Ten Words
of God, The Ten Commandments, you are not doing the perfect will of
God and you are not one of Christ's brethren.
You can be certain that without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you
will unwittingly fall outside of GOD's perfect will all the time from
the first thought you have in your mind and so you will not be one of
Christ's brethren from the outset.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world because
we are reborn of water and the Holy Spirit.
Just as the Holy Spirit is not of this world, we are no longer of this
world.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep
his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Eccl 12:13
Amen.
Without the Holy Spirit, you can not know **all** of GOD's
commandments which taken together would be HIS perfect and infinite
will.
This is why Jesus gave the following warning:
"And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at how satan's sockpuppets
(demons) react to Jesus' words concerning the Holy Spirit so that we
know these words to be true:
http://tinyurl.com/28j544
Our discussion in this thread simply shows that the Holy Spirit is
absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
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| User: "Andy is Evil" |
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| Title: Re: Not doing the perfect will of GOD is sin. |
25 Jun 2007 02:29:41 AM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love9@thetruth.com> stained a sci.med group
with the following foul emission:
news:1182733374.931052.85830@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
convicted neighbor Donna Kupp wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Yes, not not re-doing that which isn't the imperfect will of
someone who isn't GOD is not a sin.
"Who parked the toyota in my spot?" -- Jesus
Christ, yet another boring post from Andrew.
Amen.
The brethen of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special, nor cuter nor more prone to tilting, nor more fully
flavoured, nor more likely to carry whelks, nor more erudite at
ear-wigging, nor higher than the highest mountain, nor more deeper
than the deepest bucket, nor more likely to have dental insurance,
nor have more holes in their jeans, nor have doggy breath nor enjoy
doggy style.
... we are simply fowgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/fowgiven/
delightfully sensual neighbor Donna wrote:
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the
transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4
Poit.
major snippity
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at how satan's sockpuppets
(demons) react to Jesus' words concerning the Holy Spirit so that we
know these words to be true:
http://tinyurl.com/28j544
While, we're following threads...
Behold in wide-eyed wonder how low an Ex-cardiologist can go by supporting
the Red Sea scam that even Answers in Genesis won't touch.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7f616e05b2a04ca6?
hl=en&
Behold in wide-eyed wonder how unprofessionally the Ex-Doctor behaves as
he attempts to force a diagnosis on a poster, simply from one line in one
of the person's post.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d4abea877843280?
hl=en&
Behold in wide-eyed wonder how he theologically buffoons himself by trying
to assert
that heavy metal lyrics are caused by God (via Satan and a rock band) to
be written.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48563b5bbca48714?
hl=en&
Behold in wide-eyed wonder how Andrew is repeatedly revealed for what he
has become
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/73c1c8865697a161?
hl=en&
Behold in wide-eyed wonder just how many ways Andrew is broken as he
follows his
personal unholy spirit to destruction.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bfa1f86c79e1e66b?
hl=en&
Ouw discussion in this thwead simpwy shows that the Howy Spiwit is
absowutely wight to convict Andwew:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Behold in wide-eyed wonder as Andrew, having lost the argument follows his
personal unholy spirit to create his hate list court of last resort.
Pwayewfuwwy in Jesus' awesome wove,
Andwew <><
--
Andwew B. Chung, MD/PhD/NJ/WOKA
Cawdiowogist
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| User: "Kurt Gavin" |
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| Title: Re: Not doing the perfect will of GOD is sin. |
24 Jun 2007 09:09:55 PM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love9@thetruth.com> wrote in message
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are no longer of this world because
we are reborn of water and the Holy Spirit.
Yes, you're either blessed by supernatural beings that no one ever gets to
see, or you are in a state of delusion, and your case Andrew, outright
mental disorder.
If people actually understood the bible and followed it, there would be
frequent executions by stoning to death.
Also, since all these religions stress they are the one unique way and all
others are essentially outlaws, there would be perpetual states of war going
on all over the place.
Nice thought, isn't it?
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