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"Ghamph" |
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27 Dec 2007 01:34:41 PM |
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Gods creation experiment. |
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
You get most things right but you screw up making humans?
You made them in your own image so you must not know what image your own *****
is?
Unless the image of God is the same as humans?
Creation means that God gets the credit for all things that are made.
All the good, the bad, the mediocre, the morons, the superstitious, the
queer, the terrorists and the lovers.
I guess that might be why God made the Bible so difficult to fully
understand, He didn't really want most people to believe it.
Or, He screwed up again.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Gods creation experiment. |
27 Dec 2007 04:48:13 PM |
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"Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote in message
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Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
You get most things right but you screw up making humans?
You made them in your own image so you must not know what image your own
*****
is?
LMAO ! good one !
Unless the image of God is the same as humans?
Creation means that God gets the credit for all things that are made.
All the good, the bad, the mediocre, the morons, the superstitious, the
queer, the terrorists and the lovers.
yup, the christian god loves creating terrorists
I guess that might be why God made the Bible so difficult to fully
understand, He didn't really want most people to believe it.
Or, He screwed up again.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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27 Dec 2007 06:44:01 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph"
<ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
He could have brainwashed everyone into forced obedience like
robots. Instead He gave us free will, and by free will Adam and
Eve, and even now the rest of us are born rejecting Him. Only
those who, by their own free will, choose Him when he calls us,
chose life, choose to receive the tremendous gift Christ offers
us all on the cross will end up in heaven.
He could have kept it good by brainwashing everyone. Personally
I'm glad we still have free will, and wouldn't have it any other
way. If you want to continue to reject Him and offer
rationalizations on why it's ok for you to do worse than Adam and
Eve ever did, that's your choice. But please consider the
hypocrisy of complaining of the consequences of these types of
actions when you're perform those self-same actions. :-(
gabriel
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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27 Dec 2007 06:57:57 PM |
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What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
He could have brainwashed everyone into forced obedience like
robots. Instead He gave us free will, and by free will Adam and
Eve, and even now the rest of us are born rejecting Him.
*****, THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE SAYS THAT EACH IS TO DIE FOR THEIR OWN SINS,
DON'T FEED ME THE ADAM AND EVE HORSECRAP EVER AGAIN
I love it when christian retards don't even know their own bible
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Gods creation experiment. |
27 Dec 2007 08:39:01 PM |
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Gabriel wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph"
<ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
He could have brainwashed everyone into forced obedience like
robots. Instead He gave us free will, and by free will Adam and
Eve, and even now the rest of us are born rejecting Him. Only
those who, by their own free will, choose Him when he calls us,
chose life, choose to receive the tremendous gift Christ offers
us all on the cross will end up in heaven.
He could have kept it good by brainwashing everyone. Personally
I'm glad we still have free will, and wouldn't have it any other
way. If you want to continue to reject Him and offer
rationalizations on why it's ok for you to do worse than Adam and
Eve ever did, that's your choice. But please consider the
hypocrisy of complaining of the consequences of these types of
actions when you're perform those self-same actions. :-(
gabriel
On the other hand he may not have bothered to exist at all ,
leaving the human brain to 'create' 'Him'
in their own image !
Religion in the year 2008 is very very sad
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:12:19 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into existence, and
set evolution into motion.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Ghamph" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:31:42 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
It's ok if you talk to your little friend, Dukie.
Now do you need some assistance getting on the short bus.
Remember, your special too.
Don't worry, the world needs followers too, like you Dukie.
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:42:00 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:31:42 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and set evolution into motion.
It's ok if you talk to your little friend, Dukie.
Now do you need some assistance getting on the short bus.
Remember, your special too.
Don't worry, the world needs followers too, like you Dukie.
Great, because I definitely follow God. You go your way, I'll go mine. And
when the time comes, don't cry about "not knowing better".
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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27 Dec 2007 05:26:26 PM |
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Great, because I definitely follow God. You go your way, I'll go mine.
And
when the time comes, don't cry about "not knowing better".
we're not worshipping a MASS-MURDERING ***** duke, your god is a SICK,
SADISTIC *****.
I REFUSE to worship a ***** jackass "supposedly all-powerful" sky pixie
that sits on his FAT, LAZY *****, LAUGHING HIS SICK, SADISTIC ***** OFF WHILE
CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED
DEATH TO THE SICK, SADISTIC ***** CALLED THE CHRISTIAN GOD
WHY DO YOU WORSHIP A PSYCHOPATH duke?
hey duke, is your god ALL-POWERFUL or is your god a USELESS PILE OF CRAP,
which is it?
duke, brainwashed christian nutcase
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Dec 2007 08:38:01 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:31:42 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and set evolution into motion.
It's ok if you talk to your little friend, Dukie.
Now do you need some assistance getting on the short bus.
Remember, your special too.
Don't worry, the world needs followers too, like you Dukie.
Great, because I definitely follow God. You go your way, I'll go mine. And
when the time comes, don't cry about "not knowing better".
That threat introduced by the clergy to garner more recruits is well and truly
worn out dukie.
Overplayed, dead, exhausted, primitive and silly
The hell you threaten us with of is best covered here [you may have seen it
before]
Someone in heaven heard that his best friend down on earth had just passed
away.
ÒOh I'm so looking forward to seeing him againÓ the man said. ÒSorryÓ said God,
ÒBut he will not be coming here because he has been a little bit more sinful
than you, so your friend, will be going to the other place we call HellÓ.
So here's this man, sitting for eternity in paradise next to his loving God,
whilst his friend, who had been just a little more sinful than he, is about to
roast for eternity on burning coals in a place called Hell.
Is it conceivable that anything could be more banal, juvenile, primitive, or
crassly stupid?
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Dec 2007 05:56:28 AM |
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On 27 Dec 2007 20:38:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
Great, because I definitely follow God. You go your way, I'll go mine. And
when the time comes, don't cry about "not knowing better".
That threat introduced by the clergy to garner more recruits is well and truly
worn out dukie.
Overplayed, dead, exhausted, primitive and silly
Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with God myself.
"It takes a truly foolish man to think he knows better than God", duke, circa
2007.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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28 Dec 2007 03:59:15 PM |
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Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with God myself.
still worshipping a MASS-MURDERING PSYCHOPATH, huh duke?
duke, brainwashed christian nutcase
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| User: "bob young" |
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28 Dec 2007 08:53:03 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 27 Dec 2007 20:38:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
Great, because I definitely follow God. You go your way, I'll go mine. And
when the time comes, don't cry about "not knowing better".
That threat introduced by the clergy to garner more recruits is well and truly
worn out dukie.
Overplayed, dead, exhausted, primitive and silly
Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with God myself.
"It takes a truly foolish man to think he knows better than God", duke, circa
2007.
On every hand there seems to be design to defeat design.
If God created man -- if he is the father of us all, why did he make the
criminals, the insane, the deformed and idiotic? Should the mother, who clasps to
her breast an idiot child, thank God
[Robert Green Ingersoll, from "Why I Am an Agnostic" (1896)]
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:24:03 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5o88n3tuuo0gg9ukgbh3ncua79kd0unpqf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
--
Andrew W.
Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation in hell then
the messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Andrew" |
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27 Dec 2007 05:54:47 PM |
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On 2007-12-27 22:24:03 +0000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> said:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5o88n3tuuo0gg9ukgbh3ncua79kd0unpqf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
Who says it's gone wrong? I think you have to have a very cynical
outlook on life to see things that way.
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Interesting point. In some ways I'm inclined to agree and to see the
redemption of humanity in Christ as the way that God deals with the
extent to which we fall short of what we are meant to be.
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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27 Dec 2007 07:17:56 PM |
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2007122723544775249-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2007-12-27 22:24:03 +0000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> said:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5o88n3tuuo0gg9ukgbh3ncua79kd0unpqf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com>
wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and
earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
Who says it's gone wrong? I think you have to have a very cynical outlook
on life to see things that way.
Oh that's right, Christians look forward to seeing their enemies (which is
virtually all of mankind) burn in hell forever.
You hateful sadists.
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Interesting point. In some ways I'm inclined to agree and to see the
redemption of humanity in Christ as the way that God deals with the extent
to which we fall short of what we are meant to be.
--
Andrew W.
Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Dec 2007 08:34:01 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
On 2007-12-27 22:24:03 +0000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> said:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5o88n3tuuo0gg9ukgbh3ncua79kd0unpqf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
Who says it's gone wrong? I think you have to have a very cynical
outlook on life to see things that way.
or blind and deaf [a possibility for some regrettably - why did your god allow
that to happen?]
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Interesting point. In some ways I'm inclined to agree and to see the
redemption of humanity in Christ as the way that God deals with the
extent to which we fall short of what we are meant to be.
The two year anniversary has just passed of the tsunami that swept over two
thousand innocent children out to sea to drown
some god !
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:40:01 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:24:03 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest itself
just as it did with the first man and woman - telling God no and that we'll
decide right from wrong.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for all
eternity.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:56:14 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:24:03 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest
itself
just as it did with the first man and woman - telling God no and that
we'll
decide right from wrong.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that
prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for
all
eternity.
Now don't tell me that you think some people actually like the idea of
burning in hell for eternity. That's a bit silly.
We all know no one likes to suffer.
The people in question don't even know what its like. More importantly they
don't believe in it.
Lets face it, the Christian hell is only a threat and deterrent for
believing Christians, not for the ones who are really evil. Its next to
useless when you think about it. The proof is the growing evil in this
world.
The true creator would never design such a pitiful system. Only humans could
have thought up such a poultry doctrine.
Face it. The Christian religion is mostly man's ideas.
--
Andrew W.
Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "bob young" |
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27 Dec 2007 08:32:02 PM |
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Andrew W wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:d7a8n3tgi1u67nec2d4okhj4vtbhaoh1vi@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:24:03 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest
itself
just as it did with the first man and woman - telling God no and that
we'll
decide right from wrong.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that
prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for
all
eternity.
Now don't tell me that you think some people actually like the idea of
burning in hell for eternity. That's a bit silly.
We all know no one likes to suffer.
The people in question don't even know what its like. More importantly they
don't believe in it.
Lets face it, the Christian hell is only a threat and deterrent for
believing Christians, not for the ones who are really evil. Its next to
useless when you think about it. The proof is the growing evil in this
world.
The true creator would never design such a pitiful system. Only humans could
have thought up such a poultry doctrine.
Face it. The Christian religion is mostly man's ideas.
Absolutely
Someone in heaven heard that his best friend down on earth had just passed
away.
ÒOh I'm so looking forward to seeing him againÓ the man said. ÒSorryÓ said God,
ÒBut he will not be coming here because he has been a little bit more sinful
than you, so your friend, will be going to the other place we call HellÓ.
So here's this man, sitting for eternity in paradise next to his loving God,
whilst his friend, who had been just a little more sinful than he, is about to
roast for eternity on burning coals in a place called Hell.
Is it conceivable that anything could be more banal, juvenile, or crassly
stupid?
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong
--
Andrew W.
Belief and faith should not be coerced. Everyone should come to the truth
naturally in their own time. That is free will and free choice. When belief
and faith are coerced with threats of punishment and damnation then the
messenger is from the dark side. ~ anonymous.
You must unlearn what you have learned. ~ Yoda
Channelled lessons about ET's, ascended masters like Jesus Christ, spirit
guides, earth changes.
http://www.spiritnexus.com/audio/channeling/index.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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28 Dec 2007 05:48:12 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:56:14 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that
prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for
all
eternity.
Now don't tell me that you think some people actually like the idea of
burning in hell for eternity. That's a bit silly.
We all know no one likes to suffer.
Yet no one knows specifically what is being left behind. The reference to
"fires of hell" is a comparison reference to the wheat separated from the hulls,
and the hulls being burned.
The average atheist has no idea what he has established for himself when he
dies. The only reference is what the risen Lord said about going with God. And
you show you desire the opposite in avoiding God in this life to be granted for
all eternity.
The people in question don't even know what its like. More importantly they
don't believe in it.
Lets face it, the Christian hell is only a threat and deterrent for
believing Christians, not for the ones who are really evil. Its next to
useless when you think about it. The proof is the growing evil in this
world.
It's called "shucks, I don't see it, therefore, obviously it isn't".
The true creator would never design such a pitiful system. Only humans could
have thought up such a poultry doctrine.
Face it. The Christian religion is mostly man's ideas.
Until you and yours reach that point when you die and you utter "oh, oh". Best
of luck.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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27 Dec 2007 05:23:40 PM |
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Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest
itself
just as it did with the first man and woman - telling God no and that
we'll
decide right from wrong.
THAT'S CALLED FREE WILL NUTCASE, REMEMBER THAT. IT'S THE ALL-IMPORTANT FREE
WILL THAT YOU CHRISTIAN RETARDS KEEP HARPING ABOUT
your jackass sky pixie gets his ***** panties in a wad simply because
someone ate some fruit from his jackass precious tree
WHEN IS YOUR HORSESHIT GOD GOING TO GET OFF OF HIS FAT, LAZY *****, (FOR ONCE)
AND PREVENT CHILDREN FROM BEING RAPED AND MURDERED?
DEATH TO THE SICK, SADISTIC ***** called the christian god
duke, brainwashed christian retard
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Gods creation experiment. |
27 Dec 2007 08:32:02 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:24:03 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest itself
just as it did with the first man and woman -
Fool - the first man and woman is lost in the distant past of evolution. There
is no such thing, we evolved gradually from apes.
telling God no and that we'll
decide right from wrong.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for all
eternity.
Hell, just like your god, your souls, your spirits and your devil, is a myth.
Bob
Is there an intelligent man or woman now in the world who believes in
the Garden of Eden story? If you find any man who believes it, strike
his forehead and you will hear an echo. Something is for rent.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, "Orthodoxy" (1884)
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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28 Dec 2007 05:53:57 AM |
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On 27 Dec 2007 20:32:02 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:24:03 +1100, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
So why has it all gone wrong?
And don't say that its because humans stuffed up because he designed our
brains which influences how we make decisions.
Where has it gone all wrong? The sin of mankind continues to manifest itself
just as it did with the first man and woman -
Fool - the first man and woman is lost in the distant past of evolution. There
is no such thing, we evolved gradually from apes.
Can you confirm this? Then you are the missing link.
telling God no and that we'll
decide right from wrong.
Or maybe he allowed it all to go wrong to set a natural evolution into
motion. That would make sense. But then there's no need for the Christian
hell because he knows everyone will come to a higher understanding
eventually. If we don't then we are not made in his image at all.
Don't tell me that the Christian hell is not needed. For those that prefer to
avoid God's influence in this life, he will grant you your preference for all
eternity.
Hell, just like your god, your souls, your spirits and your devil, is a myth.
Ok, it's your funeral.
Is there an intelligent man or woman now in the world who believes in
the Garden of Eden story? If you find any man who believes it, strike
his forehead and you will hear an echo. Something is for rent.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll, "Orthodoxy" (1884)
Did Ingersol come back and tell you he's right?
BTW, do you realize that the bible itself says that Chapters 1-11 of Genesis are
Israel's faith statement of the origins of all things including mankind, and
that these are not necessarily historical.
I believe, and live accordingly. You reject and take your chances. Good luck.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:49:59 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5o88n3tuuo0gg9ukgbh3ncua79kd0unpqf@4ax.com...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:34:41 -0500, "Ghamph" <ghamph@localnet.com> wrote:
Gods creation experiment.
When God made the heaven and earth He said that "it is good"?
What He should have said is "I will practice making the heaven and earth
but
I have never done this before so I'll need to change a lot of things
later"
So, not so (all powerful) there Mr. Big?
Yes he is. He willed it, the entire universe and all in it, into
existence, and
set evolution into motion.
why did your ALL-POWERFUL jackass god create terrorists?
why did your ALL-PWOERFUL JERK of a HORSESHIT god create child molesters?
the christian god is a SICK, SADISTIC *****
duke, brainwashed christian nutcase
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