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User: "martus"
Date: 03 Jul 2004 09:35:01 PM
Object: Heaven and hell out of body experiences!
PRIEST SAYS THAT IN BRUSH WITH DEATH HE SAW PRIESTS AND BISHOPS IN
HELL, HEAVEN
A Catholic pastor from northern Florida asserts that during a brush
with death he was shown the afterlife and saw priests and even bishops
in both paradise and hell.
The priest is Father Jose Maniyangat of St. Mary's Church in Macclenny
and he says the event occurred on April 14, 1985 -- Divine Mercy
Sunday -- when he was still in his homeland of India. We present it
for your discernment.
Now 54 and ordained in 1975, Father Maniyangat recalls that he was on
his way to celebrate Mass at a mission when the motorcycle he was
riding -- the common means of transport there -- was hit by a jeep
driven by a man who was intoxicated.
Father Maniyangat, who came to America in 1986 -- first to Idaho, then
Florida -- told Spirit Daily that he was rushed to a hospital 35 miles
away -- and that on the way, "my soul came out from the body."
"Immediately I saw my guardian angel," he relates. "I also saw my body
and the people who were carrying me to the hospital. They were crying,
and immediately the angel told me, 'I'm going to take you to Heaven.
The Lord wants to meet you.' He said that on the way he wanted to show
me hell."
That, asserts Father Maniyangat, was when hell, an awful sight, opened
before him. It was daunting. "I saw Satan and people fighting,
tortured, and screaming," claims the cleric. "And the fire too. I saw
fire. I saw people suffering and the angel told me it was due to
mortal sin and the fact that they were not repentant. That was the
thing. Unrepentant."
The priest says he was told there are seven "degrees" or levels of
suffering in the netherworld. Those who committed "mortal sin after
mortal sin" in life were suffering the most intense heat. "They had
bodies and looked very ugly, so cruel and ugly, horrifying," says
Father Maniyangat. "They were human but like monsters: fearful,
ugly-looking things. I saw people I knew but I can't say who they
were. The angel told me I could not reveal this."
The sins that got them into that state, he says, were transgressions
such as abortion, homosexuality, hatefulness, and sacrilege. He was
surprised at who he saw in hell. Some were priests. Some were bishops.
"There were many, because they had misled the people," he asserts --
again, for your discernment. "They were people I never expected."
His angel, he says, was "very beautiful and bright and white,"
difficult to put into words, and took Father Maniyangat to Heaven.
That was when a tunnel -- as experienced in so many near-death
accounts -- materialized.
"Heaven opened and I heard the music, the angels singing and praising
God," he says. "Beautiful music. I never heard music like that in this
world. I saw God face to Face, and Jesus and Mary, so bright and
illuminating. Jesus told me, 'I need you. I want you to go back. In
your second life you will be an instrument of healing to My people,
and you will walk in a foreign land and speak a foreign tongue.'"
Within a year, Father Maniyangat found himself in a far-off land
called the United States.
The priest says the Lord was far more beautiful than any image can
convey. His Face resembled the Sacred Heart, but was far more
luminous, says Father Maniyangat, who describes it as like "a thousand
suns." The Blessed Mother was next to Jesus. Once more, earthly
representations of her, he emphasizes, are "just a shadow." The priest
says she told him simply to do whatever her Son said.
Heaven, he says, has a beauty, peace, and happiness that are "a
million times" more than anything we know on earth.
"I saw priests and bishops also there," he notes. "The clouds were
different -- not dark or cloudy, but shining. Very beautiful. Very
bright. And there were rivers that were different than you see here.
This is our real home. I never experienced in my life that kind of
peace and joy."
The main message, however, is hope: like so many others, Father
Maniyangat saw the afterlife as filled with a healing Light, and
brought some of that light back with him. Afterward he started a
healing ministry and says he has seen people cured of everything from
cancer to asthma. He also conducts generational healing services, in
which darkness is allegedly erased from ancestry.
Has the devil attacked? Yes, especially before services. He has been
harassed. He has been physically assaulted. But it is nothing, he
says, compared to the grace.
________________________________________________________________________________________
I see and hear on TV and read on the internet and in books about many
other people who have had similar near-death experiences as I have had
and have met one person who related her vision that she had had to me.
These out of body experiences should not be actively sought out as
there is a very real danger of being deceived by these spirits once
your spirit is in that realm enabling you to see more then just your
physical surroundings.
I have read articles from those that practice the occult and they have
told of their encounters with demons and fallen angels which is why we
have so much of this gods and goddess beliefs in our society. Demons
seem to bring negative energies such as fear into a persons life and
want to co-inhabit/dominate a persons body while the fallen angels
seem to be more interested in being worshipped as God and appear as
glorious spiritual entities.Those fallen angels that created the
demons were locked up in hell so I guess that is why the other fallen
angels would rather not interfer with mankind on such a personal
levels as these demons. Whether through deception, fear or coercion
the fallen angels or demons will try and make you abandon the true God
to follow them.
Relating from my own two experiences of my spirit leaving my body and
from what I've read on this matter this much I can tell you and that
is if your spirit leaves your body then anything you meet outside your
body is more than likely from the devil's kingdom especially if you
find yourself going into a dark tunnel first.
As the first time I experienced a out of body experience I also
experienced an inner body experience straight after I know that these
two events were different from each other and this inner body
experience was an amazing experience in itself. This inner body
experience is where I saw Christ and these visions(including the one
related to me which I am certain is an inner body experience) have
been written out for you below. ( If your wondering what it feels like
to have your spirit out of your body then the best way to explain it
is to say it's very similar to asking what the difference is between
being clothed and not clothed-your still who you are but your just a
bit more lighter. )
God is a very loving God and if he can save one of you by letting a
lot of misery come your way he will. God gave man the ability to
choose. Without God in control mans way of doing things ends in sheer
madness, but how would we know that if we weren't allowed that choice
and allowed to see the results of that choice?. All of us whether we
follow God or not enjoy the things that our loving God has created for
us in this physical life but that won't be the case after we die. If
you don't want to spend eternity with God and the love that he has for
us, you won't have to.
Eternity without God is HELL!

The visions given to Paul
Just after I turned 21, I was sitting and staring at a small bottle
trying to imagine pictures out of the contents of the bottle (like
cloud watching), when my spirit floated out of my body. I could see my
body still looking at the small bottle and in what felt like a
fraction of a second I was drawn back into my body and had a sense of
traveling very far, very quickly, once my spirit was within my body.
It was like being shot like a bullet into what seemed like a tunnel of
bright white light and the best example I can give is when the
spaceships on Star Trek hit warp drive. When I finally stopped, I was
in a wide flat area in front of a giant of a man with bright white
hair, beard and clothes (His whole being shone with light) . All
around me I could see in the distance a white glow and heard singing
but I couldn't understand the words. Jesus looked at me as a father
looks at his child when a child won't live the way he should and told
me to "Go back". I knew it was Jesus not because He told me or I
recognised him from some picture but because my spirit simply just
knew.
Back in my body I thought to myself, pretty weird, and was about to
pass it off as one of those things that happens, when suddenly, I
started hearing that singing again and felt my spirit starting to
separate from my body again. As soon as I realized that what had
happened was very real the singing and the separating stopped.
The second out of body experience happened when I was about 29 and was
camped with a group of friends. My spirit floated out of my body and I
could see myself, my friends and the area around us. I noticed behind
me a man sitting on a tree branch and turned towards him but he never
looked directly at me for the time we talked. He seemed pretty
friendly at first and told me to join him (think this demon's
intention was to let itself into my body but couldn't do it without my
permission) and the more I refused to join him the angrier he got.
This was scary stuff especially since he said that if I didn't join
him he would destroy my friends but I replied that God would protect
them and as I didn't know what else to do I prayed the Lord's prayer
(Our Father...) and my spirit came back into my body and I breathed a
sigh of relief.

The vision given to Jeanne Russell on July 1995.
I was in heaven with Jesus and we were talking as He was setting
places at his banqueting tables. There were so many tables there that
they were impossible to count- reaching far beyond the furthest
horizons. They all had name places set before them, and peoples from
all tribes and nations were gathered there.
However, lots and lots of chairs were empty, even though name places
were clearly set there for them. I could see mine- JEANNE FIDDEN,and I
asked my Lord, "Why the FIDDEN, when I was now Russel?" and He
replied, "These places are set for them-but they refused to come to My
banqueting tables-They were ALL invited as you can see, but by their
own free will they refuse to come!" Then Jesus told me to write this
down, and tell others. So I am telling you! He also asked me to add, "
Your place is set will you be there?"
I am still in a very dark tunnel, so dark and seemingly drowning in
despair. I knew a way out myself - taking things out of God's hands
and into my own hands. Then God the Father spoke to me in the garden-
"If you do that, I'll have to rearrange the table settings. Take your
place from the table reserved for the people of great faith, and place
you further down where the people of little faith sit. Wouldn't you
rather sit with friends you know intimately around your table, than to
have Me place you with complete strangers?
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Heaven and hell out of body experiences! 03 Jul 2004 11:54:14 PM
martus wrote:

PRIEST SAYS THAT IN BRUSH WITH DEATH HE SAW PRIESTS AND BISHOPS IN
HELL, HEAVEN

A Catholic pastor from northern Florida asserts that during a brush
with death he was shown the afterlife and saw priests and even bishops
in both paradise and hell.

The priest is Father Jose Maniyangat of St. Mary's Church in Macclenny
and he says the event occurred on April 14, 1985 -- Divine Mercy
Sunday -- when he was still in his homeland of India. We present it
for your discernment.

It is this kind of illusionary deception that spurs the average atheist to further challeng
primitive superstition
bob
A Brit.
Hong Kong
"Man is kind enough when he's not excited by religion," it begins, "but once the holy
holies have got a grip on him he's capable of almost anything. When a disciple from the
wildcat religious asylum comes marching forth, get under the bed. It doesn't matter whether
he's a Christian, Hindu, Jew or Muslim. If he's made up his mind that you need reforming,
he will do it with anything handy - an ax, 800 years of witch
burning or, if necessary, he'll blow you up."
[Mark Twain]



Now 54 and ordained in 1975, Father Maniyangat recalls that he was on
his way to celebrate Mass at a mission when the motorcycle he was
riding -- the common means of transport there -- was hit by a jeep
driven by a man who was intoxicated.

Father Maniyangat, who came to America in 1986 -- first to Idaho, then
Florida -- told Spirit Daily that he was rushed to a hospital 35 miles
away -- and that on the way, "my soul came out from the body."

"Immediately I saw my guardian angel," he relates. "I also saw my body
and the people who were carrying me to the hospital. They were crying,
and immediately the angel told me, 'I'm going to take you to Heaven.
The Lord wants to meet you.' He said that on the way he wanted to show
me hell."

That, asserts Father Maniyangat, was when hell, an awful sight, opened
before him. It was daunting. "I saw Satan and people fighting,
tortured, and screaming," claims the cleric. "And the fire too. I saw
fire. I saw people suffering and the angel told me it was due to
mortal sin and the fact that they were not repentant. That was the
thing. Unrepentant."

The priest says he was told there are seven "degrees" or levels of
suffering in the netherworld. Those who committed "mortal sin after
mortal sin" in life were suffering the most intense heat. "They had
bodies and looked very ugly, so cruel and ugly, horrifying," says
Father Maniyangat. "They were human but like monsters: fearful,
ugly-looking things. I saw people I knew but I can't say who they
were. The angel told me I could not reveal this."

The sins that got them into that state, he says, were transgressions
such as abortion, homosexuality, hatefulness, and sacrilege. He was
surprised at who he saw in hell. Some were priests. Some were bishops.
"There were many, because they had misled the people," he asserts --
again, for your discernment. "They were people I never expected."

His angel, he says, was "very beautiful and bright and white,"
difficult to put into words, and took Father Maniyangat to Heaven.
That was when a tunnel -- as experienced in so many near-death
accounts -- materialized.

"Heaven opened and I heard the music, the angels singing and praising
God," he says. "Beautiful music. I never heard music like that in this
world. I saw God face to Face, and Jesus and Mary, so bright and
illuminating. Jesus told me, 'I need you. I want you to go back. In
your second life you will be an instrument of healing to My people,
and you will walk in a foreign land and speak a foreign tongue.'"

Within a year, Father Maniyangat found himself in a far-off land
called the United States.

The priest says the Lord was far more beautiful than any image can
convey. His Face resembled the Sacred Heart, but was far more
luminous, says Father Maniyangat, who describes it as like "a thousand
suns." The Blessed Mother was next to Jesus. Once more, earthly
representations of her, he emphasizes, are "just a shadow." The priest
says she told him simply to do whatever her Son said.

Heaven, he says, has a beauty, peace, and happiness that are "a
million times" more than anything we know on earth.

"I saw priests and bishops also there," he notes. "The clouds were
different -- not dark or cloudy, but shining. Very beautiful. Very
bright. And there were rivers that were different than you see here.
This is our real home. I never experienced in my life that kind of
peace and joy."

The main message, however, is hope: like so many others, Father
Maniyangat saw the afterlife as filled with a healing Light, and
brought some of that light back with him. Afterward he started a
healing ministry and says he has seen people cured of everything from
cancer to asthma. He also conducts generational healing services, in
which darkness is allegedly erased from ancestry.

Has the devil attacked? Yes, especially before services. He has been
harassed. He has been physically assaulted. But it is nothing, he
says, compared to the grace.

________________________________________________________________________________________

I see and hear on TV and read on the internet and in books about many
other people who have had similar near-death experiences as I have had
and have met one person who related her vision that she had had to me.
These out of body experiences should not be actively sought out as
there is a very real danger of being deceived by these spirits once
your spirit is in that realm enabling you to see more then just your
physical surroundings.

I have read articles from those that practice the occult and they have
told of their encounters with demons and fallen angels which is why we
have so much of this gods and goddess beliefs in our society. Demons
seem to bring negative energies such as fear into a persons life and
want to co-inhabit/dominate a persons body while the fallen angels
seem to be more interested in being worshipped as God and appear as
glorious spiritual entities.Those fallen angels that created the
demons were locked up in hell so I guess that is why the other fallen
angels would rather not interfer with mankind on such a personal
levels as these demons. Whether through deception, fear or coercion
the fallen angels or demons will try and make you abandon the true God
to follow them.

Relating from my own two experiences of my spirit leaving my body and
from what I've read on this matter this much I can tell you and that
is if your spirit leaves your body then anything you meet outside your
body is more than likely from the devil's kingdom especially if you
find yourself going into a dark tunnel first.

As the first time I experienced a out of body experience I also
experienced an inner body experience straight after I know that these
two events were different from each other and this inner body
experience was an amazing experience in itself. This inner body
experience is where I saw Christ and these visions(including the one
related to me which I am certain is an inner body experience) have
been written out for you below. ( If your wondering what it feels like
to have your spirit out of your body then the best way to explain it
is to say it's very similar to asking what the difference is between
being clothed and not clothed-your still who you are but your just a
bit more lighter. )

God is a very loving God and if he can save one of you by letting a
lot of misery come your way he will. God gave man the ability to
choose. Without God in control mans way of doing things ends in sheer
madness, but how would we know that if we weren't allowed that choice
and allowed to see the results of that choice?. All of us whether we
follow God or not enjoy the things that our loving God has created for
us in this physical life but that won't be the case after we die. If
you don't want to spend eternity with God and the love that he has for
us, you won't have to.

Eternity without God is HELL!


The visions given to Paul

Just after I turned 21, I was sitting and staring at a small bottle
trying to imagine pictures out of the contents of the bottle (like
cloud watching), when my spirit floated out of my body. I could see my
body still looking at the small bottle and in what felt like a
fraction of a second I was drawn back into my body and had a sense of
traveling very far, very quickly, once my spirit was within my body.
It was like being shot like a bullet into what seemed like a tunnel of
bright white light and the best example I can give is when the
spaceships on Star Trek hit warp drive. When I finally stopped, I was
in a wide flat area in front of a giant of a man with bright white
hair, beard and clothes (His whole being shone with light) . All
around me I could see in the distance a white glow and heard singing
but I couldn't understand the words. Jesus looked at me as a father
looks at his child when a child won't live the way he should and told
me to "Go back". I knew it was Jesus not because He told me or I
recognised him from some picture but because my spirit simply just
knew.

Back in my body I thought to myself, pretty weird, and was about to
pass it off as one of those things that happens, when suddenly, I
started hearing that singing again and felt my spirit starting to
separate from my body again. As soon as I realized that what had
happened was very real the singing and the separating stopped.

The second out of body experience happened when I was about 29 and was
camped with a group of friends. My spirit floated out of my body and I
could see myself, my friends and the area around us. I noticed behind
me a man sitting on a tree branch and turned towards him but he never
looked directly at me for the time we talked. He seemed pretty
friendly at first and told me to join him (think this demon's
intention was to let itself into my body but couldn't do it without my
permission) and the more I refused to join him the angrier he got.
This was scary stuff especially since he said that if I didn't join
him he would destroy my friends but I replied that God would protect
them and as I didn't know what else to do I prayed the Lord's prayer
(Our Father...) and my spirit came back into my body and I breathed a
sigh of relief.



The vision given to Jeanne Russell on July 1995.

I was in heaven with Jesus and we were talking as He was setting
places at his banqueting tables. There were so many tables there that
they were impossible to count- reaching far beyond the furthest
horizons. They all had name places set before them, and peoples from
all tribes and nations were gathered there.

However, lots and lots of chairs were empty, even though name places
were clearly set there for them. I could see mine- JEANNE FIDDEN,and I
asked my Lord, "Why the FIDDEN, when I was now Russel?" and He
replied, "These places are set for them-but they refused to come to My
banqueting tables-They were ALL invited as you can see, but by their
own free will they refuse to come!" Then Jesus told me to write this
down, and tell others. So I am telling you! He also asked me to add, "
Your place is set will you be there?"

I am still in a very dark tunnel, so dark and seemingly drowning in
despair. I knew a way out myself - taking things out of God's hands
and into my own hands. Then God the Father spoke to me in the garden-
"If you do that, I'll have to rearrange the table settings. Take your
place from the table reserved for the people of great faith, and place
you further down where the people of little faith sit. Wouldn't you
rather sit with friends you know intimately around your table, than to
have Me place you with complete strangers?

End
times:
http://www.geocities.com/mart1963/

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