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User: "Frank"
Date: 30 May 2006 10:17:28 PM
Object: Heaven Or Earth
When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.
--
http://roines.home.mindspring.com
.

User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 30 May 2006 10:23:35 PM
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.

But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.
.
User: "Andrew W"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 03:40:56 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.

In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.
--
Andrew W.
Always trust the one who is searching for the truth.
Never trust the one who claims to have it.
~Jordan Maxwell
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 07:49:36 AM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.

God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.
.
User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 08:24:42 AM
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.

Oh, *****.
Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?
No.
God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish the
precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the sacrifice
of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.
Such manner of Satanic beast you are, blasphemer.
Ike
--
www.eickleberrybooks.com
******************************
The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")
The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves
******************************
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User: "Wild Bill"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 05:38:35 PM
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish the
precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the sacrifice
of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.

C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such test.
Shalom,
Bill


Such manner of Satanic beast you are, blasphemer.

Ike

--
www.eickleberrybooks.com

******************************

The Tree of Life (from "The Character Map")


The Beloved
Faith Hope
Righteousness Judgment Compassion
Courage Integrity Diligence Grace
Discipline of Thought Service Desire Decision and Belief
Glory Honor Power Wisdom Riches Blessing Strength w/Thanksgiving
He Who Loves


******************************
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User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 05:55:41 PM
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such test.

God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the test
he gave Abraham.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:14:14 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:55:41 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Wild Bill" <bilsgrdn@qwest.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the test
he gave Abraham.

It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:48:39 PM
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:55:41 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Wild Bill" <bilsgrdn@qwest.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.

God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 07:04:26 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:48:39 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:55:41 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
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"Wild Bill" <bilsgrdn@qwest.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.

Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 07:16:24 PM
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.

If you mention God, you are talking about God.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 08:50:03 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 19:16:24 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.


If you mention God, you are talking about God.

When you talk about Jehovah which is obviously NOT all knowing, you
are talking about the devil pretending to be God. Jehovah is only your
imagination. It does not exist.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 09:09:50 PM
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as
the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for
the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.


If you mention God, you are talking about God.


When you talk about Jehovah which is obviously NOT all knowing, you
are talking about the devil pretending to be God. Jehovah is only your
imagination. It does not exist.

There is only one God. And when people think of Jehovah, they are normally
thinking about God, not some pretend God.
If there were a pretend God, he would have to be pretty darned stupid,
thinking he could stand up to the real God.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 10:41:40 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:09:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as
the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for
the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.


If you mention God, you are talking about God.


When you talk about Jehovah which is obviously NOT all knowing, you
are talking about the devil pretending to be God. Jehovah is only your
imagination. It does not exist.


There is only one God. And when people think of Jehovah, they are normally
thinking about God, not some pretend God.

They are deceived just like Abraham. They will be just like Abraham to
be "forced" to kill their only sons and daughters for believing the
devil as their father.


If there were a pretend God, he would have to be pretty darned stupid,
thinking he could stand up to the real God.

That is what Jehovah is. Darned stupid. In reality, it's the people
like Abraham who are darned stupid in killing their own sons and
daughters.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 11:01:19 PM
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:09:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


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<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:48:39 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as
the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for
the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would
have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any
such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a
time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.


If you mention God, you are talking about God.


When you talk about Jehovah which is obviously NOT all knowing, you
are talking about the devil pretending to be God. Jehovah is only your
imagination. It does not exist.


There is only one God. And when people think of Jehovah, they are
normally
thinking about God, not some pretend God.


They are deceived just like Abraham. They will be just like Abraham to
be "forced" to kill their only sons and daughters for believing the
devil as their father.

God has the right to lay out when a life begins and when it ends.
There is nothing evil about that. Someone has to do it.



If there were a pretend God, he would have to be pretty darned stupid,
thinking he could stand up to the real God.


That is what Jehovah is. Darned stupid. In reality, it's the people
like Abraham who are darned stupid in killing their own sons and
daughters.

If some pretend God were that stupid, his kingdom could not stand.
You carry the idea that Satan is the god of this world too far.
Satan is not even a real god, because he does not have the power
and omnipresence of a god.
He is a wimp.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 01 Jun 2006 12:54:59 AM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 23:01:19 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as
the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be
aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith, and to
establish
the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in preparation for
the
sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.


C'mon Ike, you can do better than that! An omniscient god would
have
known
whether or not Abraham's faith was good, hence no need for any
such
test.


God has the ability of focusing his attention on one thing at a
time.
As when he looks to find out certain things...like the result of the
test
he gave Abraham.


It's obvious Jehovah the devil in disguise is not omniscient. It's
open for everyone to see, yet few can really have the courage to
recognize it. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


God indeed knows everything. He is a person, however, and focuses
on one thing at a time, just as we do. And that one thing constitutes
everything.


Not at all. God is also omnipresent. God can make everything happens
at the same time to make it looks like one thing. You are talking
about a lesser god because Jehovah is a lesser god which is also evil.


If you mention God, you are talking about God.


When you talk about Jehovah which is obviously NOT all knowing, you
are talking about the devil pretending to be God. Jehovah is only your
imagination. It does not exist.


There is only one God. And when people think of Jehovah, they are
normally
thinking about God, not some pretend God.


They are deceived just like Abraham. They will be just like Abraham to
be "forced" to kill their only sons and daughters for believing the
devil as their father.


God has the right to lay out when a life begins and when it ends.
There is nothing evil about that. Someone has to do it.

Typical claim of might is right. Such claim is evil in itself. God is
the giver of life. It's the devil that is the killer of life. You are
deceived.




If there were a pretend God, he would have to be pretty darned stupid,
thinking he could stand up to the real God.


That is what Jehovah is. Darned stupid. In reality, it's the people
like Abraham who are darned stupid in killing their own sons and
daughters.


If some pretend God were that stupid, his kingdom could not stand.
You carry the idea that Satan is the god of this world too far.
Satan is not even a real god, because he does not have the power
and omnipresence of a god.

He is a wimp.

Sadly, when the devil appears as God, it's Abraham and you who become
the wimps.
.











User: "Andrew W"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 01 Jun 2006 04:43:03 PM
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

If it was a benevolent God then such a barbaric act would never have even
crossed his mind in the first place.


God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith,

No such test is necessary for an omniscient God. And there are far better
ways to test someone than to force them to kill their innocent son. The OT
god was definitely evil.

and to establish the precedence of animal sacrifices, and that in
preparation for the sacrifice of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save
everyone.

A God doesn't need to kill the innocent to save the lost.
Only evil would dream up such a dastardly scheme.


Such manner of Satanic beast you are, blasphemer.

It is those who yell blasphemer who are the truly lost.
If there is a benevolent God then he would not feel threatened by small
humans saying things against him.
It is only those who are on the wrong path that have such destructive fears.


Ike

--
Andrew W.
Always trust the one who is searching for the truth.
Never trust the one who claims to have it.
~Jordan Maxwell
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
.

User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:00:33 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:24:42 -0500, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
<Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:56 +1000, "Andrew W"
<removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.



In what way do you hear God?
Just curious.


God is not to be *heard*. Only the devil in disguise appears as the
voice of God which has deceived Abraham to kill his only son. Be aware
the voice of god, it is actually the devil's deceit.


Oh, *****.

Did God let Abraham actually kill his son?

No.

Fortunately, the devil in Abraham's head couldn't fight against a
passing by hunter with a loving heart. The generous and compassionate
hunter found creative ways to save Abraham's son. He is definitely the
angel of Almighty God of heaven because of his loving compassion.


God did the whole thing as a test of Abraham's faith,

God is the good Almighty who *never* tests anyone. God knows all and
sees all in absolute advance. God needs no test.
and to establish the

precedence of animal sacrifices,

Animal sacrifice is an evil and bloody ritual practice. It kills the
innocent to spare the guilty. It teaches the Jews the way of evil.
and that in preparation for the sacrifice

of His Own Son, Jesus Christ to save everyone.

The Jewish plot to kill Jesus of Nazareth is absolute evil also.


Such manner of Satanic beast you are, blasphemer.

Absolutely not! I'm only one of many who have gained enough courage to
stand up against evil for the sake of all innocent victims and the
love of Jesus Christ. It is not blasphemy for the love of Christ. To
speak for the force of evil in killing Christ is the true blasphemy.
Wake up! Jehovah is the devil in disguise.


Ike

.




User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 30 May 2006 11:27:30 PM
On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.

How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 30 May 2006 11:41:16 PM
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?

I know God from experience. He is the one that creates you some more
every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 02:40:16 AM
On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.

Can you tell me more about such experience?
He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.

Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 05:37:07 PM
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?

When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.
You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time, but
it is always the same eyes and voice.
The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.
Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.
That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.



He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.

John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:22:53 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:07 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:qthq729pdnoa9vtf8m4ea6l5gav0nki6b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:un6q72td3o3deh880gv6qo4hm2pl73qo9a@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?


When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.

You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time, but
it is always the same eyes and voice.

The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.

Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.

That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.

Too bad. I can see no Christ in your description. Where was Christ in
your experience?




He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.



John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.

The voice of Messiah is the voice of a living man, not the voice of
the devil in your head. Don't be confused.



.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:46:36 PM
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:07 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:un6q72td3o3deh880gv6qo4hm2pl73qo9a@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?


When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.

You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time,
but
it is always the same eyes and voice.

The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.

Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.

That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.


Too bad. I can see no Christ in your description. Where was Christ in
your experience?

I mentioned God didn't I? You are saying he is not God?




He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.



John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.


The voice of Messiah is the voice of a living man, not the voice of
the devil in your head. Don't be confused.

The Devil only has the power you give him.
He's a wimp.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 06:56:37 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:46:36 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:07 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:qthq729pdnoa9vtf8m4ea6l5gav0nki6b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:un6q72td3o3deh880gv6qo4hm2pl73qo9a@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?


When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.

You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time,
but
it is always the same eyes and voice.

The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.

Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.

That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.


Too bad. I can see no Christ in your description. Where was Christ in
your experience?


I mentioned God didn't I? You are saying he is not God?

Everyone can mention God, but not everyone can know Christ. To know
the true God, one has to know Christ first, because Christ is the only
Way.





He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.



John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.


The voice of Messiah is the voice of a living man, not the voice of
the devil in your head. Don't be confused.


The Devil only has the power you give him.
He's a wimp.

The devil is nothing but a shadow. It has no power if you have Christ
with you.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 07:14:46 PM
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:46:36 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:07 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:qthq729pdnoa9vtf8m4ea6l5gav0nki6b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:un6q72td3o3deh880gv6qo4hm2pl73qo9a@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?


When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.

You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time,
but
it is always the same eyes and voice.

The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.

Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.

That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.


Too bad. I can see no Christ in your description. Where was Christ in
your experience?


I mentioned God didn't I? You are saying he is not God?


Everyone can mention God, but not everyone can know Christ. To know
the true God, one has to know Christ first, because Christ is the only
Way.

Empty words. It goes without saying, if one mentions God, he is mentioning
Christ. If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian.




He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such
immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.



John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before
them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.


The voice of Messiah is the voice of a living man, not the voice of
the devil in your head. Don't be confused.


The Devil only has the power you give him.
He's a wimp.


The devil is nothing but a shadow. It has no power if you have Christ
with you.

Yeah, he's a wimp.
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: Heaven Or Earth 31 May 2006 08:47:20 PM
On Wed, 31 May 2006 19:14:46 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:46:36 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:07 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:qthq729pdnoa9vtf8m4ea6l5gav0nki6b4@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:41:16 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:un6q72td3o3deh880gv6qo4hm2pl73qo9a@4ax.com...

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:35 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:cV7fg.9694$y4.9453@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

When our Lord Jesus comes,
we his people alive on the earth
will be changed and caught up to him
to live with him in the heavenly city.
On the earth there will be a Rebellion.
This is what you must do
to be ready for Jesus at his coming:
Believe in him for your eternal life.
He went to the cross to give you life;
he (not church, baptism, sacrament,
efforts) is the eternal life.
Believe in him and you will receive him;
then you will walk in God's love as he did.


But how do you believe?
By hearing every word that God tells you, and reacting to it
effectively.


How do you know that is not the devil speaking to you?


I know God from experience.


Can you tell me more about such experience?


When you perceive his words working on you from the inside, then
you know it was God that instructed you with them.

You also get to know his face a little bit. It is different every time,
but
it is always the same eyes and voice.

The eyes that see clearly into the soul, shaping it as he passes by.
And the voice that flows through you like living water, quenching your
every thirst, spiritual and otherwise.

Further, that living water overflows you, and spills over from you onto
others
parched in this spiritual desert we call home.

That is how you know for sure you have encountered God.


Too bad. I can see no Christ in your description. Where was Christ in
your experience?


I mentioned God didn't I? You are saying he is not God?


Everyone can mention God, but not everyone can know Christ. To know
the true God, one has to know Christ first, because Christ is the only
Way.


Empty words. It goes without saying, if one mentions God, he is mentioning
Christ. If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian.

Absolutely false. Not everyone who claims to believe in God knows
Christ. The devil also believes God, but they believe God in fear, not
in love.





He is the one that creates you some more

every time you come near him.
The devil only lies. God's children recognize them as such
immediately.
They have all have that certain stench.


Not good enough. The devil has the power over all God's children to
deceive them and scare them. That is why we have this evil world.



John 10: 4: And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before
them,
and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

So God's people know his voice, and will not follow another.


The voice of Messiah is the voice of a living man, not the voice of
the devil in your head. Don't be confused.


The Devil only has the power you give him.
He's a wimp.


The devil is nothing but a shadow. It has no power if you have Christ
with you.


Yeah, he's a wimp.

It doesn't exist. It's only in the mind of people who are gullible.
.