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"Father Kelly" |
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14 Aug 2007 11:09:20 PM |
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Honoring Mary |
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 08:15:20 AM |
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"J Young", putting on his dress and pretending to be "Father Kelly"
<father.kelly1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", <kookslap>
FOAD, kook.
Given all your pedophile posts, you have no call on judging who is and isn't
a Christian.
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our young people with guidance from an older generation Please help
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are just very misunderstood; we get bad press, but we stand for love"
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 01:16:12 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:15:20 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", <kookslap>
FOAD, kook.
Wow, now there's a pagan for you.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 01:54:59 PM |
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Some poor young girl's weird uncle, "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:15:20 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", <kookslap>
FOAD, kook.
Wow, now there's a pagan for you.
You mean the pedophile kook that posted this?
Y'know, you:
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 05:51:24 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:54:59 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", <kookslap>
FOAD, kook.
Wow, now there's a pagan for you.
You mean the pedophile kook that posted this?
Y'know, you:
Nope, not me. I'm a most happy Roman Catholic.
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item. Better luck next time, lost child.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 07:39:23 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:54:59 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", <kookslap>
FOAD, kook.
Wow, now there's a pagan for you.
You mean the pedophile kook that posted this?
Y'know, you:
Nope, not me. I'm a most happy Roman Catholic.
All that wine will do that for you.
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item.
In <alt.pedophile.uncle>, no doubt.
Better luck next time, lost child.
Sorry, dook, but I'm no child.
Pinch my nipples and you'd be seeing 'Mary' for a month.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
17 Aug 2007 07:12:07 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:39:23 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
You mean the pedophile kook that posted this?
Y'know, you:
Nope, not me. I'm a most happy Roman Catholic.
All that wine will do that for you.
A small snip at Mass?
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item.
In <alt.pedophile.uncle>, no doubt.
Never heard of it. But it sounds like you did.
Better luck next time, lost child.
Sorry, dook, but I'm no child.
Pinch my nipples and you'd be seeing 'Mary' for a month.
I don't do those things. But it sounds like you would.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
17 Aug 2007 10:17:36 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:39:23 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
All that wine will do that for you.
A small snip at Mass?
No doubt you sneak a bottle into theconfessional, Earl.
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item.
In <alt.pedophile.uncle>, no doubt.
Never heard of it. But it sounds like you did.
You posted it, Weird Uncle Dook.
Better luck next time, lost child.
Sorry, dook, but I'm no child.
Pinch my nipples and you'd be seeing 'Mary' for a month.
I don't do those things.
You words betray you, dook.
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| User: "duke" |
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17 Aug 2007 10:41:06 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:17:36 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
All that wine will do that for you.
A small snip at Mass?
No doubt you sneak a bottle into theconfessional, Earl.
Aw, nooooo. Drinking is not allowed in the confessional.
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside the
family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item.
In <alt.pedophile.uncle>, no doubt.
Never heard of it. But it sounds like you did.
You posted it, Weird Uncle Dook.
A discussion item about a double standard. But I never heard of that web site
you listed that you hang around in.
Better luck next time, lost child.
Sorry, dook, but I'm no child.
Pinch my nipples and you'd be seeing 'Mary' for a month.
I don't do those things.
You words betray you, dook.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
17 Aug 2007 01:11:41 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:17:36 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
All that wine will do that for you.
A small snip at Mass?
No doubt you sneak a bottle into theconfessional, Earl.
Aw, nooooo. Drinking is not allowed in the confessional.
Neither are incest and pedophilia, nipple pincher.
But that didn't stop you.
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching nipples (pre
breast type) and comparing how that's quite alright in a family
setting but clearly and quickly labeled as child molestation outside
the family setting."~ duke, aka Earl Weber, incestuous pedophile.
Yep, that was quite a discussion item.
In <alt.pedophile.uncle>, no doubt.
Never heard of it. But it sounds like you did.
You posted it, Weird Uncle Dook.
A discussion item about a double standard.
Uh huh.
Sicko.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
17 Aug 2007 04:21:43 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:11:41 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
No doubt you sneak a bottle into theconfessional, Earl.
Aw, nooooo. Drinking is not allowed in the confessional.
Neither are incest and pedophilia, nipple pincher.
But that didn't stop you.
Gosh, loose cannon, so you run around sniffing peoples toilets, too?
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
17 Aug 2007 05:36:05 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:11:41 -0500, "LC" <LC_____@hotmail.com> wrote:
No doubt you sneak a bottle into theconfessional, Earl.
Aw, nooooo. Drinking is not allowed in the confessional.
Neither are incest and pedophilia, nipple pincher.
But that didn't stop you.
Gosh, loose cannon, so you run around sniffing peoples toilets, too?
What an odd question.
Well, at least it would be if posed by a normal person.
Which, of course, excludes Weird Uncle Dook.
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| User: "Zadok" |
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15 Aug 2007 06:51:16 AM |
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"Kelly" <Who continues to use the title father, even though Jesus told him
not to> wrote in message ...
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all
honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
I think a christian is anyone who follows the teachings of christ!!
1) Mark 3: 35 - Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and
mother."
OOOOPS. Those words are in red in my bible. Thus Jesus tells us that anyone
who does the will of God, can be his mother.
Or the bible -
2) Jeremiah 7: 18 - The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire,
and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of
Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to provoke me to anger.
It would seem that honoring a PAGAN Queen of Heaven provokes God to anger!!
3) Jeremiah 44: 19 - The women added, "When we burned incense to the Queen
of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know
that we were making cakes like her image and pouring out drink offerings to
her?"
Do you burn incense around images of the Queen of Heaven??
4) Approxinately 2,000BC, the following hymn to the Goddess Inanna was
written -
I say, "Hail!" to the Holy One who appears in the heavens!
I say, "Hail!" to the Holy Priestess of Heaven!
I say, "Hail!" to Inanna, Great Lady of Heaven.
Thus you now know where your Hail Mary comes from!!
It's kind of like Jesus saying, Matthew 23: 9 - And do not call anyone on
earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Real christians follow that!! The followers of Saulus the apostate still
call their priests father to this day!!
Listen!! Any other questions, don't be afraid to ask!!
Smile.
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| User: "duke" |
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15 Aug 2007 01:15:30 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:51:16 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all
honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
I think a christian is anyone who follows the teachings of christ!!
1) Mark 3: 35 - Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and
mother."
OOOOPS. Those words are in red in my bible. Thus Jesus tells us that anyone
who does the will of God, can be his mother.
Including you, z.
Or the bible -
2) Jeremiah 7: 18 - The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire,
and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of
Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to provoke me to anger.
It would seem that honoring a PAGAN Queen of Heaven provokes God to anger!!
You said it - a pagan. For what they were doing in the cities of Judah and the
streets of Jerusalem. Do you own a bible, z?
3) Jeremiah 44: 19 - The women added, "When we burned incense to the Queen
of Heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know
that we were making cakes like her image and pouring out drink offerings to
her?"
Didn't you see the part about offering sacrifices to other gods.
Shame on you, z.
Do you burn incense around images of the Queen of Heaven??
No, the Mother of Jesus is now with her son in Heaven.
4) Approxinately 2,000BC, the following hymn to the Goddess Inanna was
written -
I say, "Hail!" to the Holy One who appears in the heavens!
I say, "Hail!" to the Holy Priestess of Heaven!
I say, "Hail!" to Inanna, Great Lady of Heaven.
There you go, you pagan, hail to inanna.
Thus you now know where your Hail Mary comes from!!
But ours is the Mother of God, and not one of your pagans.
It's kind of like Jesus saying, Matthew 23: 9 - And do not call anyone on
earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
One can is it is thru the Good News.
Real christians follow that!! The followers of Saulus the apostate still
call their priests father to this day!!
Actually, Paul professed Christ.
Listen!! Any other questions, don't be afraid to ask!!
Smile.
Now, you are one that I would avoid if I wanted truth.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Zadok" |
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15 Aug 2007 02:38:35 PM |
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"duck" <internet clown> wrote in message
I think a christian is anyone who follows the teachings of christ!!
1) Mark 3: 35 - Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and
mother."
OOOOPS. Those words are in red in my bible. Thus Jesus tells us that
anyone
who does the will of God, can be his mother.
Including you, z.
If you could read idiot, you would see it says whoever does the will of God
can be Jesus brother, sister or mother.
Note Duck, brother. That is for the males. Notice no mention of father.
Jesus told you to call no one father.
You don't suppose in Mark any mother who does God's will could be Jesus'
mother.
Sorry, I'm wasting time on an idiot!!
Smile.
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| User: "duke" |
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15 Aug 2007 05:48:53 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:38:35 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"duck" <internet clown> wrote in message
I think a christian is anyone who follows the teachings of christ!!
1) Mark 3: 35 - Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and
mother."
OOOOPS. Those words are in red in my bible. Thus Jesus tells us that
anyone
who does the will of God, can be his mother.
Including you, z.
If you could read idiot, you would see it says whoever does the will of God
can be Jesus brother, sister or mother.
Note Duck, brother. That is for the males. Notice no mention of father.
Jesus told you to call no one father.
You don't suppose in Mark any mother who does God's will could be Jesus'
mother.
Spiritually, of course.
Sorry, I'm wasting time on an idiot!!
Smile.
Then quit talking to yourself.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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16 Aug 2007 12:23:24 AM |
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Father Kelly wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
Why should anybody be a Christian? Mary was a *****. She cuckolded
Joseph with that stupid story about some ghost cumming unto her. Her son
did not experience resurrection, and your gospels are LIES.
Proper respect for Mary would have been to leave a tip under her pillow.
And your holy ghost was a Roman sailor on shore leave.
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17 Aug 2007 03:27:04 PM |
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On Aug 14, 11:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
The problem lies not in honoring Mary, but in the Roman Catholic
"veneration" of her to unscriptural plateaus. Protestantism has
rightly reacted to RCO's maryolatry (Maria latria, though they like to
fool us with terms such as hyperdulia). However, because of this, I
feel that Protestants have suffered in failing to accord her the honor
she rightly deserves for fear of coming the same error. It is
completely unscriptural of the RCO* to elevate her to a position
complementary to that of the Trinity itself when teaching an acting
upon the false view of her role as benefactress, mediatrix or co-
redeemer.
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Roman Catholic Organization
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| User: "suneejan" |
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15 Aug 2007 08:51:19 AM |
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On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
Jesus says in Luke 8:21 But he answered and said to them,"My Mother
and my broothers are those who hear the word of God and do it."
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| User: "Rockinghorse Winner" |
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17 Aug 2007 12:14:13 PM |
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, suneejan had the audacity to say that:
On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
Jesus says in Luke 8:21 But he answered and said to them,"My Mother
and my broothers are those who hear the word of God and do it."
Exactly. That is why we call Mary Mother, because we are Jesus' brothers!
*R* *H*
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If only one of Charles Chaplin's films could be preserved, ``City
Lights'' (1931) would come the closest to representing all the
different notes of his genius. -Roger Ebert
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15 Aug 2007 11:46:55 AM |
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On Aug 15, 9:51 am, suneejan <suneej...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
Jesus says in Luke 8:21 But he answered and said to them,"My Mother
and my broothers are those who hear the word of God and do it."
What does Jesus do, living in someone's heart? That's quite a home.
And how does he get around? Do he live in the heart of a child-rapist?
Illegal alien? He must be inside the heart of the one who murdered
Jon-Benet, no? It's a long list.
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| User: "Rockinghorse Winner" |
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17 Aug 2007 12:14:14 PM |
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Ronald 'More-More' Moshki had the audacity to say that:
On Aug 15, 9:51 am, suneejan <suneej...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
Jesus says in Luke 8:21 But he answered and said to them,"My Mother
and my broothers are those who hear the word of God and do it."
What does Jesus do, living in someone's heart? That's quite a home.
And how does he get around? Do he live in the heart of a child-rapist?
Illegal alien? He must be inside the heart of the one who murdered
Jon-Benet, no? It's a long list.
Jesus lives in heart of those who make space for him.
*R* *H*
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If only one of Charles Chaplin's films could be preserved, ``City
Lights'' (1931) would come the closest to representing all the
different notes of his genius. -Roger Ebert
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| User: "duke" |
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17 Aug 2007 04:27:48 PM |
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On 17 Aug 2007 17:14:14 GMT, Rockinghorse Winner <rockinghorse@deadtime.com>
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Ronald 'More-More' Moshki had the audacity to say that:
On Aug 15, 9:51 am, suneejan <suneej...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
Jesus says in Luke 8:21 But he answered and said to them,"My Mother
and my broothers are those who hear the word of God and do it."
What does Jesus do, living in someone's heart? That's quite a home.
And how does he get around? Do he live in the heart of a child-rapist?
Illegal alien? He must be inside the heart of the one who murdered
Jon-Benet, no? It's a long list.
Jesus lives in heart of those who make space for him.
I like the way you speak.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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15 Aug 2007 01:17:45 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:51:19 -0000, suneejan <suneejan2@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 9:09 pm, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
A true Christian is a person who Jesus is living in their heart and
lives. Mary was a person but should not be worshiped .
She's not. She's "esteemed".
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 12:23:43 AM |
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On Aug 15, 12:09 am, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
Did you know that Lil' Joey was the first pimp, selling Mary to the
Ghost for 20 bucks?
Thus, was the Son Of Man begot.
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| User: "Joseph" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 06:35:16 AM |
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On Aug 15, 12:09 am, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
It's better to respect Mary, the mother of Jesus (Y'shua) than to
disrespect her. When religions esteem her above Christ, followers
will start giving more honor to a human than to God.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
15 Aug 2007 01:17:05 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:35:16 -0700, Joseph <thanks4life@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 15, 12:09 am, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
It's better to respect Mary, the mother of Jesus (Y'shua) than to
disrespect her. When religions esteem her above Christ, followers
will start giving more honor to a human than to God.
Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
22 Aug 2007 10:04:35 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
When you PRAY to her, you are treating her as if she was GOD, which is
idolatry!
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Dore
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:35:16 -0700, Joseph <thanks4life@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 15, 12:09 am, "Father Kelly" <father.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
How can any man or woman call themselves "Christian", yet not give all
honor
and glory to Jesus Christ's mother? The "Hail Mary" prayer teaches us
that
she was the mother of God. Unless proper respect is afforded Mary, that
person should not identify themselves as "Christian".
It's better to respect Mary, the mother of Jesus (Y'shua) than to
disrespect her. When religions esteem her above Christ, followers
will start giving more honor to a human than to God.
Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "BAM" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
23 Aug 2007 08:51:42 PM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7P6zi.11472$563.3110@trndny08...
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eog6c3dpqqbu9v3ggiqll2nmj7lk8oadjk@4ax.com...
Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
When you PRAY to her, you are treating her as if she was GOD, which is
idolatry!
Not *as* God, Dore - but as one of God's most loved.
BAM
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| User: "Michael James" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
23 Aug 2007 09:06:25 PM |
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BAM wrote:
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7P6zi.11472$563.3110@trndny08...
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eog6c3dpqqbu9v3ggiqll2nmj7lk8oadjk@4ax.com...
Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
When you PRAY to her, you are treating her as if she was GOD, which is
idolatry!
Not *as* God, Dore - but as one of God's most loved.
BAM
It is very strange. People think that when they leave this wolrd for
the next, they will be with all kinds of people.
In the next life will they only focus on G-d?
Will they ignore all who are they and never communicate with them?
(communion of saints)
So why is it so hard to understand that some people communicate through
prayer to the mother of Jesus? It's not realy my thing, but it seems to
me that some people are a little thick about this.
In the least if they don't like it, they should stop this constant
hounding of those who venerate Jesus' mother, and respect those who do.
And if prayers to her are a help..great. We all need all the help we
can get.
Hail Mary...........................
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Honoring Mary |
23 Aug 2007 09:53:18 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:51:42 -0400, "BAM"
<mcca5761@blahblahbellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7P6zi.11472$563.3110@trndny08...
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eog6c3dpqqbu9v3ggiqll2nmj7lk8oadjk@4ax.com...
Well, we "esteem" Mary. We worship Jesus.
When you PRAY to her, you are treating her
as if she was GOD, which is idolatry!
Not *as* God, Dore - but as one of God's most loved.
And yet, we thought that was Jesus! Shame on us!
When you pray to someone, then you are worshipping
them. And there is nowhere in Scripture that it says to
pray to Mary.
And before you try to pull that, "We're not praying to
Mary. We are just talking to her, asking her to pray
to Jesus for us.", you had better come up with another
form of communication than getting on your knees
and praying to her. You know, like fax, telephone,
postal, etc.. Unless you can say that you communicate
with her in one of those methods, then there is no
difference between what you're doing to her and what
you're doing to God.
The fact is, that you assign omniscience to her, for she
could not possibly hear all of the prayers coming at her,
unless she was omniscient.
So you go worship your Mary and I'll worship God.
Have a nice day! :)
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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