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How is a government godly? |
Devotional Guide
For the week of August 3, 2003
Laws That Set One Free
How is a government godly?
To Read: Psalm 109-111
To Know:
"And Agrippa said to Paul, 'In a short time you think to make me a
Christian!' And Paul said, 'Whether short or long, I would to God that not
only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am -
except for these chains.'" (Acts 26:28,29)
We met our second child and first son at ten o'clock on the morning of
August 9, 1974. Two days earlier Vice President Gerald Ford along with
Albert Quie and Defense Secretary Melvin Laird slipped into the office of
Republican leader John Rhodes. The two events were not unrelated. When
Andrew was one hour old he lived through an event which in other times and
places could have meant a political upheaval great enough to entirely change
a nation's way of life. All unknown to infant Andrew, the most powerful
leader on earth was driven from office by the law of the land.
It is no small thing that the man who became President of the United States
of America was a serious follower of Jesus Christ. It has been the strength
of our culture that a person is not required to deny his or her faith in
order to lead us as a people. We must not fail to pray for those who are in
authority over us.
To Answer:
Do we pray daily for godliness in government?
Do we realize how important it is that many who serve us in government are
godly?
Do we pray consistently that those who work hard to erase the influence of
the Christian faith from our country not succeed?
Saturday: Psalm 112-114
Sunday: Psalm 115-117
08083$-08083
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08 Aug 2003 04:53:46 PM |
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"rhuff163" <rhuff163@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It is no small thing that the man who became President of the United
States
of America was a serious follower of Jesus Christ. It has been the
strength
of our culture that a person is not required to deny his or her faith in
order to lead us as a people. We must not fail to pray for those who are
in
authority over us.
Actually, there hasn't been ONE President of the United States who was a
serious follower of Jesus Christ. From George Washington until George W,
has mostly been Freemasons, or Satanists who LIE and claim Christianity,
while secretly performing pagan worship and rituals to SATAN.
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Dore
http://dorewilliamson.com
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Devotional Guide
For the week of August 3, 2003
Laws That Set One Free
How is a government godly?
To Read: Psalm 109-111
To Know:
"And Agrippa said to Paul, 'In a short time you think to make me a
Christian!' And Paul said, 'Whether short or long, I would to God that not
only you but also all who hear me this day might become such as I am -
except for these chains.'" (Acts 26:28,29)
We met our second child and first son at ten o'clock on the morning of
August 9, 1974. Two days earlier Vice President Gerald Ford along with
Albert Quie and Defense Secretary Melvin Laird slipped into the office of
Republican leader John Rhodes. The two events were not unrelated. When
Andrew was one hour old he lived through an event which in other times and
places could have meant a political upheaval great enough to entirely
change
a nation's way of life. All unknown to infant Andrew, the most powerful
leader on earth was driven from office by the law of the land.
It is no small thing that the man who became President of the United
States
of America was a serious follower of Jesus Christ. It has been the
strength
of our culture that a person is not required to deny his or her faith in
order to lead us as a people. We must not fail to pray for those who are
in
authority over us.
To Answer:
Do we pray daily for godliness in government?
Do we realize how important it is that many who serve us in government are
godly?
Do we pray consistently that those who work hard to erase the influence of
the Christian faith from our country not succeed?
Saturday: Psalm 112-114
Sunday: Psalm 115-117
08083$-08083
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| User: "Brenda G. Kent" |
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08 Aug 2003 12:01:34 PM |
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May we always have separation of church and state.
Bren.
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Religion is Love and Fellowship and not theological
dogmas and creeds.
When you have Love and Sympathy in your heart for
your fellowmen, you have the highest type of religion
no matter by what name you may call yourself. Rest
assured that the emancipation of the world is through
the Nameless God of Love, and in the Nameless
Religion of Love.
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| User: "Dore" |
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08 Aug 2003 05:03:17 PM |
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"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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May we always have separation of church and state.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the plan of God is to destroy the wicked and
unbelievers, off of the earth and save the righteous, who will live in the
millennium of the GOVERNMENT OF GOD, finally in peace.
Luke 17:26-30
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the
Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in
marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came,
and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank,
they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone
from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
KJV
Isa 13:9
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
KJV
Matt 13:41-43
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of
his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their
Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
KJV
Isa 66:16
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the
slain of the LORD shall be many.
KJV
Isa 28:22
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I
have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon
the whole earth.
KJV
Isa 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government
shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,
Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his GOVERNMENT and peace there shall be no end, upon
the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it
with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of
the LORD of hosts will perform this.
KJV
Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such
the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of
Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV
--
Dore
http://dorewilliamson.com
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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May we always have separation of church and state.
Bren.
--
*****************************************************
Religion is Love and Fellowship and not theological
dogmas and creeds.
When you have Love and Sympathy in your heart for
your fellowmen, you have the highest type of religion
no matter by what name you may call yourself. Rest
assured that the emancipation of the world is through
the Nameless God of Love, and in the Nameless
Religion of Love.
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| User: "dpwozney" |
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08 Aug 2003 05:56:10 PM |
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"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.56.0308081001160.6406@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>...
May we always have separation of church and state.
Bren.
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The concept of separation of church and state is contrary to
Colossians 1:16-17, which states that by Jesus Christ were all
things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions,
or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him,
and for Him: and He is before all things, and by Him all things
consist.
Canada does not have separation of the Christian church and state.
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which begins with
the phrase "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize
the supremacy of God and the rule of law", was signed by Canada's
visible head of state on earth, Queen Elizabeth II. The God of
Queen Elizabeth II is the God of Christians, Jesus Christ. Christ
is the head of the church (Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18).
Queen Elizabeth II is referred to as a servant of the King eternal
Jesus Christ. On record at
http://www.sen.parl.gc.ca/acools/cools99/11feb99.htm ,
Canadian Senator Anne Cools stated:
"Honourable Senators, I rise to honour the 47th Anniversary of
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's accession to the throne. My theme
for this speech will be 'The Leader as Servant, Public Service,
the Queen and Christ the King.'"
.....
"Queen Elizabeth II has lived, to the best of her ability, the
high concepts of public service in Christ the King. She is a
great woman, a great Queen and a great servant. God Bless the Queen!"
At the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II, the text of which may
be read at http://www.oremus.org/liturgy/coronation/cor1953b.html ,
the Queen promised to the utmost of her power to maintain the
laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel. These laws of
God are found in the Christian Bible which was referred to at
the Queen's coronation as "the most valuable thing that this
world affords".
The Parliament of Canada passed an act, still in effect today,
respecting the royal title of Queen Elizabeth II, which is
"Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom,
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith".
The Government of Canada recognizes that the God of the United
Kingdom is the same God as the God of Canada. Queen Elizabeth II
is recognized by the Government of Canada as "Defender of the Faith",
which faith is the Christian faith.
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13 Aug 2003 10:10:33 PM |
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"ImpBush" <spam@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message news:<hJXZa.343138$o86.138746@news1.central.cox.net>...
"dpwozney" <dpwozney@ocii.com> wrote in message
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"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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May we always have separation of church and state.
Bren.
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Canada does not have separation of the Christian church and state.
That is their problem. Here in the USA we DO have separation of church and
state ... any church, any religion.
(not according to King George, but according to OUR constitution).
The U.S.A. has does not have separation of the deist church and state.
With "religion" defined as "belief in God or gods", the following
indicates the existence of an official U.S.A. state religion:
The word "God" is
(1) in the U.S.A. Declaration of Independence,
(2) in the U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance,
(3) on the U.S.A. money notes and coins,
(4) in the U.S.A. national motto,
(5) in the U.S.A. national anthem, and
(6) in the opening of each session of the U.S.A. Supreme Court.
The state religion of the United States of America is a religion with
belief in the god of Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of
Independence.
This Declaration of Independence, which has not been rescinded by
Congress, endorses the god of Thomas Jefferson for entitlement of
Congress to their rights.
Adopted by Congress on July 4, 1776, it provides the following doctrine
of the U.S.A. state religion:
1. the Laws of "Nature's God" entitled Congress to certain rights;
2. all men are endowed by their "Creator" with certain unalienable
rights;
3. the Representatives of the U.S.A., in General Congress, Assembled,
appealed to the "Supreme Judge of the world" for the rectitude of
their intentions;
4. the signers of the Declaration of Independence pledged with a firm
reliance on the protection of "divine Providence"; and,
5. the signers of the Declaration of Independence pledged to each other
their "sacred Honor".
The First Amendment, signed in 1789, in effect stated that the existing
U.S.A. state religion could not be changed.
The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...".
In 1789 and after 1789, Congress could make no law respecting an
establishment of a U.S.A. state religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise of a U.S.A. state religion, according to the First Amendment.
The U.S.A. state religion was already established as of July 4, 1776,
when Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence.
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13 Aug 2003 11:36:43 PM |
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On 13 Aug 2003 20:10:33 -0700, (dpwozney) wrote:
The U.S.A. has does not have separation of the deist church and state.
With "religion" defined as "belief in God or gods", the following
indicates the existence of an official U.S.A. state religion:
The word "God" is
(1) in the U.S.A. Declaration of Independence,
(2) in the U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance,
(3) on the U.S.A. money notes and coins,
(4) in the U.S.A. national motto,
(5) in the U.S.A. national anthem, and
(6) in the opening of each session of the U.S.A. Supreme Court.
....none of which is the legal document by which the U.S.A. is
governed.
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14 Aug 2003 05:37:39 AM |
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Varicose Brain <lacruiser@aol.com> wrote in message news:<je4mjv4eavqolnlnapkpuh3824lanh3g9b@4ax.com>...
On 13 Aug 2003 20:10:33 -0700, (dpwozney) wrote:
The U.S.A. has does not have separation of the deist church and state.
The U.S.A. does not have separation of the deist church and state.
According to Article 11 of the Treaty of Peace and Friendship,
signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796, passed by the United States
Congress, and which may be read at
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/barbary/bar1796t.htm ,
"...the government of the United States of America is not in any
sense founded on the Christian Religion...".
Rather, Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of
Independence was a deist. See http://www.deism.com/DeistAmerica.htm
With "religion" defined as "belief in God or gods", the following
indicates the existence of an official U.S.A. state religion:
The word "God" is
(1) in the U.S.A. Declaration of Independence,
(2) in the U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance,
(3) on the U.S.A. money notes and coins,
(4) in the U.S.A. national motto,
(5) in the U.S.A. national anthem, and
(6) in the opening of each session of the U.S.A. Supreme Court.
...none of which is the legal document by which the U.S.A. is
governed.
Since the Declaration of Independence has never been rescinded
by Congress, the Declaration of Independence is still legally
binding on Congress.
The Declaration of Independence established laws still in effect
today: that the United States of America, "as Free and Independent
States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract
Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things
which Independent States may of right do."
The Declaration of Independence statement, "We must, therefore,
acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and
hold them," (British brethren), "as we hold the rest of mankind,
Enemies in War, in Peace Friends", certainly does still have
relevance today.
The age of the U.S.A. is legally dated from the date Congress
adopted the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776.
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| User: "Varicose Brain" |
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14 Aug 2003 11:43:51 AM |
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On 14 Aug 2003 03:37:39 -0700, (dpwozney) wrote:
The word "God" is
(1) in the U.S.A. Declaration of Independence,
(2) in the U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance,
(3) on the U.S.A. money notes and coins,
(4) in the U.S.A. national motto,
(5) in the U.S.A. national anthem, and
(6) in the opening of each session of the U.S.A. Supreme Court.
...none of which is the legal document by which the U.S.A. is
governed.
Since the Declaration of Independence has never been rescinded
by Congress, the Declaration of Independence is still legally
binding on Congress.
So you're saying that is a law doesn't violate the Constitution, but
violates the Declaration of Independence, that a judge would agree
with such an argument?
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| User: "Dore" |
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08 Aug 2003 06:34:00 PM |
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Queen Elizabeth II is referred to as a servant of the King eternal
Jesus Christ. On record at
http://www.sen.parl.gc.ca/acools/cools99/11feb99.htm ,
Canadian Senator Anne Cools stated:
So did Queen Elizabeth DO ALL Christ said to be a disciple and servant of
Christ? Did she go sell all of her possessions and give the money to the
poor to deny herself and follow Him? Does she HATE money and the things of
the earth to LOVE GOD? Did she forsake her family, homes, lands, sex,
money, possessions to walk in the spirit and truth? Did she repent of all
sin and stop sinning? Did she seek FIRST the righteousness of God and attain
it? Did she DO the will of the Father in heaven, by OBEYING every word out
of His mouth? Is Canada governed by ALL of the ways, rules, commands,
demands and requirements of GOD? Do all of the people of Canada give freely
and generously, with all they have in talent, possessions, and work to
provide for all who has need, without recompense and money or does Canada
also use Capitalism, which is stealing as much money from your neighbor for
selfish profit and gain?
Maybe you need to compare Queen Elizabeth's works according to ALL Christ
said, before you accept that she is a servant of Christ.
--
Dore
http://dorewilliamson.com
"dpwozney" <dpwozney@ocii.com> wrote in message
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"Brenda G. Kent" <wt211@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
news:<Pine.GSO.4.56.0308081001160.6406@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>...
May we always have separation of church and state.
Bren.
--
The concept of separation of church and state is contrary to
Colossians 1:16-17, which states that by Jesus Christ were all
things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions,
or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him,
and for Him: and He is before all things, and by Him all things
consist.
Canada does not have separation of the Christian church and state.
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which begins with
the phrase "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize
the supremacy of God and the rule of law", was signed by Canada's
visible head of state on earth, Queen Elizabeth II. The God of
Queen Elizabeth II is the God of Christians, Jesus Christ. Christ
is the head of the church (Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18).
Queen Elizabeth II is referred to as a servant of the King eternal
Jesus Christ. On record at
http://www.sen.parl.gc.ca/acools/cools99/11feb99.htm ,
Canadian Senator Anne Cools stated:
"Honourable Senators, I rise to honour the 47th Anniversary of
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II's accession to the throne. My theme
for this speech will be 'The Leader as Servant, Public Service,
the Queen and Christ the King.'"
....
"Queen Elizabeth II has lived, to the best of her ability, the
high concepts of public service in Christ the King. She is a
great woman, a great Queen and a great servant. God Bless the Queen!"
At the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II, the text of which may
be read at http://www.oremus.org/liturgy/coronation/cor1953b.html ,
the Queen promised to the utmost of her power to maintain the
laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel. These laws of
God are found in the Christian Bible which was referred to at
the Queen's coronation as "the most valuable thing that this
world affords".
The Parliament of Canada passed an act, still in effect today,
respecting the royal title of Queen Elizabeth II, which is
"Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom,
Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the
Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith".
The Government of Canada recognizes that the God of the United
Kingdom is the same God as the God of Canada. Queen Elizabeth II
is recognized by the Government of Canada as "Defender of the Faith",
which faith is the Christian faith.
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| User: "dpwozney" |
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09 Aug 2003 10:07:43 AM |
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"Dore" <spiritfire@frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:<IrWYa.31079$xR6.1215@news02.roc.ny>...
Queen Elizabeth II is referred to as a servant of the King eternal
Jesus Christ. On record at
http://www.sen.parl.gc.ca/acools/cools99/11feb99.htm ,
Canadian Senator Anne Cools stated:
So did Queen Elizabeth DO ALL Christ said to be a disciple and servant of
Christ? Did she go sell all of her possessions and give the money to the
poor to deny herself and follow Him? ...
I am unaware of any claim that Queen Elizabeth II is perfect.
The instructions by Christ in Matthew 19:21 to the young man were
instructions to be *perfect*.
"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou
hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven:
and come and follow me."
Matthew 19:21 (KJV)
In Matthew 19:16, the young man asked Christ: "what good thing shall
I do, that I may have eternal life?"
The response by Christ in Matthew 19:17 reveals that the young man
did not believe that Christ is God. The young man did not have faith
in Christ. The young man was trying to earn his salvation.
For people trying to earn their salvation without faith in Christ, they
have to be perfect and sell what they have. No one is perfect.
Salvation is through faith in Christ, a gift of God, and not of works.
...Is Canada governed by ALL of the ways, rules, commands,
demands and requirements of GOD?
The parable of Matthew 13:24-30 provides insight for this question:
"Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven
is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat,
and went his way.
But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then
appeared the tares also.
So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir,
didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath
it tares?
He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto
him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also
the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest
I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and
bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."
Do all of the people of Canada give freely and generously, with all
they have in talent, possessions, and work to provide for all who
has need, without recompense and money or does Canada also use
Capitalism, which is stealing as much money from your neighbor
for selfish profit and gain?
People in Canada have free will to reject Christ and the right not
to follow the teachings of the New Testament. Canadians have freedom
of conscience and religion and freedom of thought, belief, opinion and
expression.
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