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User: "want2believe"
Date: 05 Apr 2006 02:22:36 AM
Object: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk.
Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.
In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.
Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.
Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.
There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?
I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.
.

User: "Liam _"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 05 Apr 2006 05:44:11 PM
In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic want2believe <need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
: suffered a severe, disabling depression.
: In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
: a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
: seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
: thought that there might be a loving god after all.
: Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
: great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
: be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
: actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
: actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
: continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
: person.
: Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
: punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
: some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
: historical value, everything.
: There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
: 2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
: inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?
: I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
: in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
: would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
: unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
: a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.
: Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.
Well personally I believe that Hell is far far worse than that. It, I
believe precludes any thought of hope or any consolation in rememberence
of good things past (the rememberence of such things will rather pain
soul).
Regarding your wekaness: welcome to the human race. All men are weak and
have done nothing of their life of real value or significance of their own
right. What we accomplish that is good, we accomplish because of God's
grace in our life. Without that grace, even the best of intentions get
turned aside.
On the flip side though, I believe that God is merciful and will
ultimately console those who turn to him.
Regarding atheist articles and doubts, it is only natural that your faith
will be tested. As a Catholic I don't buy the argument that conversion is
a one time event. Rather its a way of living life where we trust in God
and hope that his grace will help us, over time, overcome our weaknesses.
There is a story about a man who walks by a monastery every day for years.
One day as he is walking past he sees a monk tending to the hedge that
seperates the monastery from the side walk. They guy decides to ask the
monk what exactly it is that monks do. The monk's reply is that they fall
down and they get up again then they fall down....
Anyway, I hope this helps a bit.
--
Bill
.

User: "• R. L. Measures"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 05 Apr 2006 08:59:46 AM
In article <1144221756.342770.227870@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"want2believe" <need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> wrote:

Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ?

• Zzzzzzzzz

Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.

• If you were really in Hell you wouldn't have a free minute to get on
line because the succubae would be all over you like stink on *****
trying like hell to milk yours of every last bit.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 05 Apr 2006 05:14:09 AM
On 5 Apr 2006 00:22:36 -0700, "want2believe"
<need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> spake
thusly:

Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.

Then cut the crap. Right now, you seem to enjoy it.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
The Last Days were in the first century:
Matthew 3:7,10,12
7) But when He saw many of the Pharisees and
Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto
THEM, O GENERATION of vipers, who hath warned
YOU to flee from the wrath to come?
10) And NOW also the axe is laid unto the root
of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire.
12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will
throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat
into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff
with unquenchable fire.
.
User: "want2believe"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk.[Pastor Dave = Troll] Thanks to cursory google search 05 Apr 2006 05:42:07 AM
Results 1 - 10 of 987 for "pastor dave" troll (0.23 seconds)
Welcome to my killfile.
Pastor Dave wrote:

On 5 Apr 2006 00:22:36 -0700, "want2believe"
<need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> spake
thusly:

Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.


Then cut the crap. Right now, you seem to enjoy it.

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

The Last Days were in the first century:

Matthew 3:7,10,12

7) But when He saw many of the Pharisees and
Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto
THEM, O GENERATION of vipers, who hath warned
YOU to flee from the wrath to come?
10) And NOW also the axe is laid unto the root
of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire.
12) Whose fan is in his hand, and he will
throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat
into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff
with unquenchable fire.

.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk.[Pastor Dave = Troll] Thanks to cursory google search 05 Apr 2006 05:57:28 AM
On 5 Apr 2006 03:42:07 -0700, "want2believe"
<need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> spake
thusly:

Results 1 - 10 of 987 for "pastor dave" troll (0.23 seconds)



Welcome to my killfile.

Yea, right. You're the one in Christian news groups,
claiming that Paul had a "stroke induced vision"
and I'm the troll. Sure. <chuckle>
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
All we can do every day is the next right thing.
.



User: "vince garcia"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 05 Apr 2006 05:35:09 AM
want2believe wrote:


Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.


Paul on athesits and their beliefs:
For the fact that there is an invisible realm with a God in charge of it
has been made plain from the beginning of time by virtue of the visible
universe we can see with our own eyes. The things in the visible
universe display His eternal power and Godhood over all things, so
unbelievers are considered by Him to be without any excuse whatever!
--Romans 1:20
O Timothy, keep that which has been placed in your care, avoiding
pointless and vain disputes, and arguments against the faith based on
“science”, so called.
Some, you see, professing to be intellectuals, have erred from the
faith. Grace be with you. Amen.
--1 Tim. 20-2
The athesists/agnostics have nothing but demon-inspired ideas and logic
to offer. The Bible--not the atheist manifesto--has withstood the test
of time. If you're bothered by their arguments, get a book like Gleason
Archer's HANDBOOK OF BIBLE DIFFICULTIES. Otherwise, repent and believe
the Gospel and you'll be fine. Many of us here have gone through a
period of intellectual deception over the distortions, misinformation
and half-truths of the atheist and agnostic, and found the REAL truth,
so you're not alone
.
User: "want2believe"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 05 Apr 2006 05:47:39 AM
vince garcia wrote:

want2believe wrote:


Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.



Paul on athesits and their beliefs:

For the fact that there is an invisible realm with a God in charge of it
has been made plain from the beginning of time by virtue of the visible
universe we can see with our own eyes. The things in the visible
universe display His eternal power and Godhood over all things, so
unbelievers are considered by Him to be without any excuse whatever!

--Romans 1:20

O Timothy, keep that which has been placed in your care, avoiding
pointless and vain disputes, and arguments against the faith based on
"science", so called.
Some, you see, professing to be intellectuals, have erred from the
faith. Grace be with you. Amen.
--1 Tim. 20-2

The athesists/agnostics have nothing but demon-inspired ideas and logic
to offer. The Bible--not the atheist manifesto--has withstood the test
of time. If you're bothered by their arguments, get a book like Gleason
Archer's HANDBOOK OF BIBLE DIFFICULTIES. Otherwise, repent and believe
the Gospel and you'll be fine. Many of us here have gone through a
period of intellectual deception over the distortions, misinformation
and half-truths of the atheist and agnostic, and found the REAL truth,
so you're not alone

That's somewhat reassuring.. That book sounds like a good reference.
Think I will check it out.
--C
.
User: "Rufus"

Title: Re: I am speaking from Hell.... read at your own risk. 06 Apr 2006 11:39:29 PM
"want2believe" <need_proof_of_jesus_resurrection@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144234059.172883.257790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


vince garcia wrote:

want2believe wrote:


Most of my life I did not believe in a God. Most of my life I have
suffered a severe, disabling depression.

In February, 2006, I experienced a life-changing event. I came across
a book written by a Catholic.... her life experience so moved me that I
seriously questioned my agnosticism. My depression lifted at the
thought that there might be a loving god after all.

Guess what I did with this info ? Well... the first few days I felt
great. I thought, OK, now is my chance to be saved, go back to church,
be a good person, etc. I felt such joy at the thought that I may
actually be capable of being a faithful Christian... But what did I
actually do? I surprised myself in that I went to church only once,
continued my miserable lazy life and did not one thing to help another
person.

Now, of course I get what I deserve. My fragile happiness was
punctured within the last few weeks after accidentally coming across
some atheist articles.... which have led me to question the Bible, it's
historical value, everything.

There is no reason to believe that between February, 2006, and April,
2006, I did not die and go to Hell.............. What explains my
inability to recapture the brief interlude of peace I had ?

I am moral trash with weak values and a lazy slob. I have done nothing
in my life of any value or significance. I have done nothing that
would please God. And here he is. He shows himself to the most
unlikely person = me, a natural born skeptic and materialist. That was
a miracle. And what do I do with it? I shove it in His face.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Hell already. I am speaking from Hell.



Paul on athesits and their beliefs:

For the fact that there is an invisible realm with a God in charge of it
has been made plain from the beginning of time by virtue of the visible
universe we can see with our own eyes. The things in the visible
universe display His eternal power and Godhood over all things, so
unbelievers are considered by Him to be without any excuse whatever!

--Romans 1:20

O Timothy, keep that which has been placed in your care, avoiding
pointless and vain disputes, and arguments against the faith based on
"science", so called.
Some, you see, professing to be intellectuals, have erred from the
faith. Grace be with you. Amen.
--1 Tim. 20-2

The athesists/agnostics have nothing but demon-inspired ideas and logic
to offer. The Bible--not the atheist manifesto--has withstood the test
of time. If you're bothered by their arguments, get a book like Gleason
Archer's HANDBOOK OF BIBLE DIFFICULTIES. Otherwise, repent and believe
the Gospel and you'll be fine. Many of us here have gone through a
period of intellectual deception over the distortions, misinformation
and half-truths of the atheist and agnostic, and found the REAL truth,
so you're not alone


That's somewhat reassuring.. That book sounds like a good reference.
Think I will check it out.

--C

Having read much atheist/agnostic literature, and having spent much time
talking to such types, I have observed that distorting the truth is second
nature to them. Look at it this way - if the Bible is true, only lies can
be used to attack it. Most atheist thought isn't very clever and is easily
seen for what it is.
Rfus
.




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