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"sharon" |
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24 Dec 2003 01:44:56 PM |
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I heard the Voice of the Lord Speak IN ENGLISH |
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: I heard the Voice of the Lord Speak IN ENGLISH |
26 Dec 2003 09:51:38 PM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
No, you heard the voice of Satan for God would have never said such a
ludicrous thing that is an outright lie. Science doesn't unravel any secrets
for they can only state what they have imagined to be true, with hypothesis
and theory. Most scientists don't believe in God, therefore cannot reveal
His truths and mysteries, which are ONLY given to His faithful servants. The
earth isn't old, for if it were, the core would be solid and there would be
no earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, proving that the earth is still
young. Evolution is a lie and even Darwin could not explain the fact that
there is NO defined link between humans and animals. God would NOT tell
anyone to believe in a lie, and deny HIS OWN CREATION OF MAN.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
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| User: "John Iser" |
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| Title: Re: I heard the Voice of the Lord Speak IN ENGLISH |
27 Dec 2003 07:38:43 AM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
<el7Hb.5658$BJ4.3702@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>:
[snip]
Evolution is a lie and even Darwin could not explain the fact that
there is NO defined link between humans and animals.
Dore: you need a good, swift kick up the backside. Not because of the
malice that anyone might feel toward you, but simply to remind you
that the pain you felt for the following few days was a result of
their kicking your TAILBONE.
Face it: our animal ancestors had tails and swung around in trees.
This explains our stereoscopic vision, opposable thumbs and curlable
toes, too.
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| User: "Dude...Wheres My Clayton?" |
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27 Dec 2003 01:20:11 AM |
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:el7Hb.5658$BJ4.3702@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
No, you heard the voice of Satan for God would have never said such a
ludicrous thing that is an outright lie. Science doesn't unravel any
secrets
for they can only state what they have imagined to be true, with
hypothesis
and theory. Most scientists don't believe in God, therefore cannot reveal
His truths and mysteries, which are ONLY given to His faithful servants.
The
earth isn't old, for if it were, the core would be solid and there would
be
no earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, proving that the earth is still
young. Evolution is a lie and even Darwin could not explain the fact that
there is NO defined link between humans and animals. God would NOT tell
anyone to believe in a lie, and deny HIS OWN CREATION OF MAN.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
Ok...who forgot to lock Dore's cage again?
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| User: "sharon" |
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26 Dec 2003 09:54:34 PM |
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ah shut up
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:el7Hb.5658$BJ4.3702@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
No, you heard the voice of Satan for God would have never said such a
ludicrous thing that is an outright lie. Science doesn't unravel any
secrets
for they can only state what they have imagined to be true, with
hypothesis
and theory. Most scientists don't believe in God, therefore cannot reveal
His truths and mysteries, which are ONLY given to His faithful servants.
The
earth isn't old, for if it were, the core would be solid and there would
be
no earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, proving that the earth is still
young. Evolution is a lie and even Darwin could not explain the fact that
there is NO defined link between humans and animals. God would NOT tell
anyone to believe in a lie, and deny HIS OWN CREATION OF MAN.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
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| User: "Dr. DuFonet" |
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| Title: Re: I heard the Voice of the Lord Speak IN ENGLISH |
24 Dec 2003 10:08:57 PM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
What union do you belong to?
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| User: "sharon" |
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25 Dec 2003 01:05:44 AM |
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
news:tptGb.18715$Pg1.10818@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
What union do you belong to?
Union of the Sacred Crock.
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| User: "Dr. DuFonet" |
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28 Dec 2003 11:53:47 AM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old
age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of
the
cosmos.
What union do you belong to?
Union of the Sacred Crock.
Crocodile or Crock of S_?
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "sharon" |
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29 Dec 2003 05:13:56 PM |
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accordiondoc@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will
gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old
age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of
the
cosmos.
What union do you belong to?
Union of the Sacred Crock.
Crocodile or Crock of S_?
Crockology.... continuing studies in crockery.
hoping to become a bona fide crockalogion.
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "bluskie" |
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24 Dec 2003 05:41:33 PM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com>...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
Retard.
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| User: "sharon" |
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25 Dec 2003 01:01:55 AM |
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"bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a9dd1b95.0312241541.7429054b@posting.google.com...
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:<6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com>...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
Retard.
Are you an fanatical Fundamentalist or Militant Atheist?
Either way I've set myself up to get attacked. *laughs*.
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| User: "bluskie" |
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25 Dec 2003 07:47:16 AM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<478c282b4629865ca37138669e65aa66@news.secureusenet.com>...
"bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a9dd1b95.0312241541.7429054b@posting.google.com...
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message
news:<6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com>...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age
of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
Retard.
Are you an fanatical Fundamentalist or Militant Atheist?
Either way I've set myself up to get attacked. *laughs*.
Fag.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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24 Dec 2003 09:43:57 PM |
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===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
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| User: "sharon" |
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26 Dec 2003 11:48:32 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
From the look of the thread, I should have originally tried for "God said to
send me a bazillion bucks by X date, or he's going to call me home."
Somebody would have taken me seriously.
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Why Oral Robert's Story is Doubtful Earlier this year, television ...
.... Earlier this year, television preacher Oral Roberts told the ... dollars
by the end of
March, God would take ... Lord had told him to collect the eight million or
face ...
www.skepticfiles.org/krish/oralva.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
Chicken Report
.... with the chickens was not unlike when Oral Roberts told the world that
God told
him if he didn't raise eight million dollars, God would call him home. ...
www.highlandsstudycenter.org/chicken_report.php - 7k - Dec 24, 2003 -
Cached - Similar pages
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| User: "sharon" |
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26 Dec 2003 12:53:30 PM |
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I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke 'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
From the look of the thread, I should have originally tried for "God said
to
send me a bazillion bucks by X date, or he's going to call me home."
Somebody would have taken me seriously.
--
Why Oral Robert's Story is Doubtful Earlier this year, television ...
... Earlier this year, television preacher Oral Roberts told the ...
dollars
by the end of
March, God would take ... Lord had told him to collect the eight million
or
face ...
www.skepticfiles.org/krish/oralva.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
Chicken Report
... with the chickens was not unlike when Oral Roberts told the world that
God told
him if he didn't raise eight million dollars, God would call him home. ...
www.highlandsstudycenter.org/chicken_report.php - 7k - Dec 24, 2003 -
Cached - Similar pages
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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26 Dec 2003 02:35:41 PM |
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sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke 'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
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26 Dec 2003 03:07:53 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Disgusting!
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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26 Dec 2003 07:20:19 PM |
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sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Disgusting!
Even at 900 feet, it is still very much of a "lesser god". ;-) -- L.
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26 Dec 2003 03:24:12 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Scandalous!
If indeed Roberts is such a mentally disturbed individual ---
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
here's a quote that fits...
"a fool and his money is soon departed."
And as we can gather, Oral Roberts is nobody's fool, he's a predator who
preys on the gullibility of widows and the weak-minded. One can safely
assume he's a bold-faced LIAR.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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26 Dec 2003 07:22:53 PM |
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sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Scandalous!
If indeed Roberts is such a mentally disturbed individual ---
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
===>It all goes back to some crazy "prophets" and Saul/Paul of
Tarsus, with their hallucinatory audio-visual experiences with which
they were able to inspire awe in their primitive audience.
here's a quote that fits...
"a fool and his money is soon departed."
And as we can gather, Oral Roberts is nobody's fool, he's a predator who
preys on the gullibility of widows and the weak-minded. One can safely
assume he's a bold-faced LIAR.
===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
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| User: "sharon" |
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26 Dec 2003 07:49:26 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FECDEEC.2A8CEF09@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God
spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for
financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Scandalous!
If indeed Roberts is such a mentally disturbed individual ---
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
===>It all goes back to some crazy "prophets" and Saul/Paul of
Tarsus, with their hallucinatory audio-visual experiences with which
they were able to inspire awe in their primitive audience.
here's a quote that fits...
"a fool and his money is soon departed."
And as we can gather, Oral Roberts is nobody's fool, he's a predator who
preys on the gullibility of widows and the weak-minded. One can safely
assume he's a bold-faced LIAR.
===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
During my studies of the Bible, before losing faith in religion... I
remember a preacher told about the "miracle" of the veil on the temple being
ripped from top to bottom... and he said that it was meant to symbolize
"Anybody could come into God's presence now"... not just the High Priests.
(which only entered behind that veil on the Day of Atonement). Remember all
those sin offerings the priests had to give for the people... the common
people could not go behind that veil in the temple. Even the Priests were
suppose to be under risk of death when they went behind that temple veil.
So Jesus as the sacrifice, made it so, that I and anyone should be able and
could stand before God, without an intermediator, without fear of being
stricken dead like Priests wearing bells on their robes... forgiven all my
sins and without blemish... without need to fear God's wrath and lightnings
upon me.
Why then, if what the preacher said is so, do I need a preacher to tell me
to send HIM my money? Why is it, that we still have mortal men who set
themselves above others as "the chosen prophets and high priests" in
Judeo-Christianity like this FRAUD Oral Roberts? A widow needs give not one
red cent to the clergy (if what our local preacher said is true.) What
teaching makes Oral Roberts any more divine than myself, or you, or anyone
for that matter? Other preachers... last count I heard it's over 35,000
denominations/sects in Christianity? Sounds to me, like this hierarchy of
these "divinely chosen self-declared prophets", among themselves are riddled
with confusion... yet they claim the ability to spiritually guide the masses
"in God's name"... again, wasn't that what the rent veil symbolized? Where a
widow no longer needed the High Priest to intermediate between herself and
God, but rather it would become a journey between an individual and God
themself... without an intermediator. Preachers need not ask one dime from
me for anything --- I'm not saying that to sound stingy... I can find 1000
other ways to spend my spare money, toward "good deeds". Wasted on some
self-declared messenger of "god"'s salary --- I don't think so. I know how
to spend my own "offering" money far wiser than any preacher/church has ever
spent their funds... and it doing ten times the good!
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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26 Dec 2003 08:05:41 PM |
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sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FECDEEC.2A8CEF09@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God
spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for
financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8, 1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Scandalous!
If indeed Roberts is such a mentally disturbed individual ---
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
===>It all goes back to some crazy "prophets" and Saul/Paul of
Tarsus, with their hallucinatory audio-visual experiences with which
they were able to inspire awe in their primitive audience.
here's a quote that fits...
"a fool and his money is soon departed."
And as we can gather, Oral Roberts is nobody's fool, he's a predator who
preys on the gullibility of widows and the weak-minded. One can safely
assume he's a bold-faced LIAR.
===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
During my studies of the Bible, before losing faith in religion... I
remember a preacher told about the "miracle" of the veil on the temple being
ripped from top to bottom... and he said that it was meant to symbolize
"Anybody could come into God's presence now"... not just the High Priests.
(which only entered behind that veil on the Day of Atonement). Remember all
those sin offerings the priests had to give for the people... the common
people could not go behind that veil in the temple. Even the Priests were
suppose to be under risk of death when they went behind that temple veil.
So Jesus as the sacrifice, made it so, that I and anyone should be able and
could stand before God, without an intermediator, without fear of being
stricken dead like Priests wearing bells on their robes... forgiven all my
sins and without blemish... without need to fear God's wrath and lightnings
upon me.
Why then, if what the preacher said is so, do I need a preacher to tell me
to send HIM my money? Why is it, that we still have mortal men who set
themselves above others as "the chosen prophets and high priests" in
Judeo-Christianity like this FRAUD Oral Roberts? A widow needs give not one
red cent to the clergy (if what our local preacher said is true.) What
teaching makes Oral Roberts any more divine than myself, or you, or anyone
for that matter? Other preachers... last count I heard it's over 35,000
denominations/sects in Christianity? Sounds to me, like this hierarchy of
these "divinely chosen self-declared prophets", among themselves are riddled
with confusion... yet they claim the ability to spiritually guide the masses
"in God's name"... again, wasn't that what the rent veil symbolized? Where a
widow no longer needed the High Priest to intermediate between herself and
God, but rather it would become a journey between an individual and God
themself... without an intermediator. Preachers need not ask one dime from
me for anything --- I'm not saying that to sound stingy... I can find 1000
other ways to spend my spare money, toward "good deeds". Wasted on some
self-declared messenger of "god"'s salary --- I don't think so. I know how
to spend my own "offering" money far wiser than any preacher/church has ever
spent their funds... and it doing ten times the good!
===>In place of the High Priest, Christians put their new-fangkled savior god
CHRISTOS as a "mediator", who, being an imaginary entity, must still be
accesed through Popes and Oral Roberts-types.
As I posted elswhere:
SOMEONE WROTE:
The Bible views itself as "The Word of God".
LIBERTARIUS WROTE:
===>The "Bible" is a COLLECTION, a LIBRARY.
It cannot "view itself".
As for that compilation of HUMAN writings being the
"Word of God", that is the BASIC LIE of biblicist
Christians. A MEGABAIT by which they capture converts,
because the poor ignorant target swallows hook, line
and sinker, even the rod. Knowing nothing
better, once he accepts that lie, he will believe anything
the angler brings to him, i.e. select, out-of-context,
often deliberately mistranslated verses,
spun and twisted to convince the poor
target about the sectarian teachings of the angler
and his particular version of Christianity.
A CHRISTIAN ASKED:
I guess this explains why we Christians are so dull after coversion. We took
the stupid pill. Is there someone who can cure us of this disease?
LIBERTARIUS REPLIED
===>Start thinking for yourself.
"Buddhas do but point out the way--work out
your salvation with diligence."
-- Siddhartha Gautama of the Sakyas
"'Follow yourself, don't follow me', said Zarathustra."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
Sounds like Sharon is one who wishes to think for herself.
That is good.
Libertarius
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26 Dec 2003 09:23:47 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FECE8F5.B87354EB@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FECDEEC.2A8CEF09@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEC9B9D.44832571@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who mocked Oral Roberts saying God
spoke
'Send
me eight million by X date or he'll let me live.'
3FEA5CFD.3F204266@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>Ah, so he is now speaking in tongues!
===>That was no "mocking"!
OR really DID say that!
Oklahoma evangelist Oral Roberts spots a 900 foot Jesus straddling
a
hospital
complex he is building next to his
university. Roberts, interpreting the divine image as a plea for
financial
assistance, appeals to his followers and nets
millions of dollars in donations. (Los Angeles Times, Oct. 8,
1992)
SEE ALSO:
http://www.equip.org/free/DR170.htm
Scandalous!
If indeed Roberts is such a mentally disturbed individual ---
Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
===>It all goes back to some crazy "prophets" and Saul/Paul of
Tarsus, with their hallucinatory audio-visual experiences with which
they were able to inspire awe in their primitive audience.
here's a quote that fits...
"a fool and his money is soon departed."
And as we can gather, Oral Roberts is nobody's fool, he's a predator
who
preys on the gullibility of widows and the weak-minded. One can
safely
assume he's a bold-faced LIAR.
===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
During my studies of the Bible, before losing faith in religion... I
remember a preacher told about the "miracle" of the veil on the temple
being
ripped from top to bottom... and he said that it was meant to symbolize
"Anybody could come into God's presence now"... not just the High
Priests.
(which only entered behind that veil on the Day of Atonement). Remember
all
those sin offerings the priests had to give for the people... the common
people could not go behind that veil in the temple. Even the Priests
were
suppose to be under risk of death when they went behind that temple
veil.
So Jesus as the sacrifice, made it so, that I and anyone should be able
and
could stand before God, without an intermediator, without fear of being
stricken dead like Priests wearing bells on their robes... forgiven all
my
sins and without blemish... without need to fear God's wrath and
lightnings
upon me.
Why then, if what the preacher said is so, do I need a preacher to tell
me
to send HIM my money? Why is it, that we still have mortal men who set
themselves above others as "the chosen prophets and high priests" in
Judeo-Christianity like this FRAUD Oral Roberts? A widow needs give not
one
red cent to the clergy (if what our local preacher said is true.) What
teaching makes Oral Roberts any more divine than myself, or you, or
anyone
for that matter? Other preachers... last count I heard it's over 35,000
denominations/sects in Christianity? Sounds to me, like this hierarchy
of
these "divinely chosen self-declared prophets", among themselves are
riddled
with confusion... yet they claim the ability to spiritually guide the
masses
"in God's name"... again, wasn't that what the rent veil symbolized?
Where a
widow no longer needed the High Priest to intermediate between herself
and
God, but rather it would become a journey between an individual and God
themself... without an intermediator. Preachers need not ask one dime
from
me for anything --- I'm not saying that to sound stingy... I can find
1000
other ways to spend my spare money, toward "good deeds". Wasted on some
self-declared messenger of "god"'s salary --- I don't think so. I know
how
to spend my own "offering" money far wiser than any preacher/church has
ever
spent their funds... and it doing ten times the good!
===>In place of the High Priest, Christians put their new-fangkled savior
god
CHRISTOS as a "mediator", who, being an imaginary entity, must still be
accesed through Popes and Oral Roberts-types.
No argument! My question is this... when I read the Bible and faithfully
believing for the first time to accept it on blind faith, when I reached the
Gospels, it seemed to me for a brief time that man should be released from
intermediators between man and God. But rather a man and God.
But that all changed when the book of Acts begins. They throw out the Rabbi
and bring in the Bishop.
For a brief moment in biblical history --- it seemed it taught a deistical
view.... but I guess that's the way of mankind and animals --- the pecking
order, where one man will seek to rule over another man. (i.e., these
preachers telling some poor widow, send me money, even if you have to beg,
borrow or steal for it.)
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26 Dec 2003 09:29:59 PM |
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===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
During my studies of the Bible, before losing faith in religion... I
remember a preacher told about the "miracle" of the veil on the temple
being
ripped from top to bottom... and he said that it was meant to
symbolize
"Anybody could come into God's presence now"... not just the High
Priests.
(which only entered behind that veil on the Day of Atonement).
Remember
all
those sin offerings the priests had to give for the people... the
common
people could not go behind that veil in the temple. Even the Priests
were
suppose to be under risk of death when they went behind that temple
veil.
So Jesus as the sacrifice, made it so, that I and anyone should be
able
and
could stand before God, without an intermediator, without fear of
being
stricken dead like Priests wearing bells on their robes... forgiven
all
my
sins and without blemish... without need to fear God's wrath and
lightnings
upon me.
Why then, if what the preacher said is so, do I need a preacher to
tell
me
to send HIM my money? Why is it, that we still have mortal men who set
themselves above others as "the chosen prophets and high priests" in
Judeo-Christianity like this FRAUD Oral Roberts? A widow needs give
not
one
red cent to the clergy (if what our local preacher said is true.) What
teaching makes Oral Roberts any more divine than myself, or you, or
anyone
for that matter? Other preachers... last count I heard it's over
35,000
denominations/sects in Christianity? Sounds to me, like this hierarchy
of
these "divinely chosen self-declared prophets", among themselves are
riddled
with confusion... yet they claim the ability to spiritually guide the
masses
"in God's name"... again, wasn't that what the rent veil symbolized?
Where a
widow no longer needed the High Priest to intermediate between herself
and
God, but rather it would become a journey between an individual and
God
themself... without an intermediator. Preachers need not ask one dime
from
me for anything --- I'm not saying that to sound stingy... I can find
1000
other ways to spend my spare money, toward "good deeds". Wasted on
some
self-declared messenger of "god"'s salary --- I don't think so. I know
how
to spend my own "offering" money far wiser than any preacher/church
has
ever
spent their funds... and it doing ten times the good!
===>In place of the High Priest, Christians put their new-fangkled
savior
god
CHRISTOS as a "mediator", who, being an imaginary entity, must still be
accesed through Popes and Oral Roberts-types.
No argument! My question is this... when I read the Bible and faithfully
believing for the first time to accept it on blind faith, when I reached
the
Gospels, it seemed to me for a brief time that man should be released from
intermediators between man and God. But rather a man and God.
But that all changed when the book of Acts begins. They throw out the
Rabbi
and bring in the Bishop.
For a brief moment in biblical history --- it seemed it taught a deistical
view.... but I guess that's the way of mankind and animals --- the pecking
order, where one man will seek to rule over another man. (i.e., these
preachers telling some poor widow, send me money, even if you have to beg,
borrow or steal for it.)
And the Commandments/The Law was done away with --- just so religious
zealots could come along centuries upon centuries later, to establish NEW
COMMANDMENTS to break men's ability to be free souls. i.e., can't take a
blood transfusion... must keep Xmas or show up in Sunday School... or you're
going to Helllllllll.... throw out the Old Law, and replace it with a new
one....
Throw out the High Priest and replace him with a Pope. Looks like Jesus died
in vain.
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| User: "sharon" |
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26 Dec 2003 10:01:21 PM |
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===>Either way, the people lose. -- L.
===>In place of the High Priest, Christians put their new-fangkled
savior
god
CHRISTOS as a "mediator", who, being an imaginary entity, must still
be
accesed through Popes and Oral Roberts-types.
For a brief moment in biblical history --- it seemed it taught a
deistical
view.... but I guess that's the way of mankind and animals --- the
pecking
order, where one man will seek to rule over another man. (i.e., these
preachers telling some poor widow, send me money, even if you have to
beg,
borrow or steal for it.)
And the Commandments/The Law was done away with --- just so religious
zealots could come along centuries upon centuries later, to establish NEW
COMMANDMENTS to break men's ability to be free souls. i.e., can't take a
blood transfusion... must keep Xmas or show up in Sunday School... or
you're
going to Helllllllll.... throw out the Old Law, and replace it with a new
one....
Throw out the High Priest and replace him with a Pope. Looks like Jesus
died
in vain.
There's 35,000+ denominations/sects - many being legalistic --- maybe
Christianity is going to need another savior to save it, from itself... but
if said Messiah comes, the Christians will mark him as an anti-Christ and
crucifying him all over again.
Jesus died in vain. Just read the evangelical christians attacking
christians, over something as simple as believing in Evolution --- or
interpreting a verse in a different way --- they're all quick to say "YOU
are going to Hell, and me to Paradise." and all that comes to mind is
history repeating itself.
Here's how Fundamentalist Christians "Save Souls" ...
http://www.christainhistory.com/witches/heretics.html
women being sawed in half and crucified... not to mention the countless
humans beings fed to the fires --- over some stupid, petty difference in
doctrines.
The famous Unitarian Univeralist, Hosea Balloh, once told a fundamentalist
minister, "The difference between us is that YOU are trying to keep people
out of hell, while I am tryiing to keep hell out of people."
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26 Dec 2003 10:14:11 PM |
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Here's how Fundamentalist Christians "Save Souls" ...
http://www.christainhistory.com/witches/heretics.html
Zealous Fundamentalists....
There's some insects that will eat their own alive... I'm sure there were
many a Christian that gathered at these "martyr fests" for some sort of sick
sadistic pleasure... getting their jollies --- sort of like when the Romans
threw Christians into arenas with starving lions.. the Romans got their
jollies. Christians are worse, they do their's in the name of God.
women being sawed in half and crucified... not to mention the countless
humans beings fed to the fires --- over some stupid, petty difference in
doctrines.
The famous Unitarian Univeralist, Hosea Balloh, once told a fundamentalist
minister, "The difference between us is that YOU are trying to keep people
out of hell, while I am tryiing to keep hell out of people."
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27 Dec 2003 12:37:47 PM |
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sharon wrote:
There's 35,000+ denominations/sects - many being legalistic --- maybe
Christianity is going to need another savior to save it, from itself... but
if said Messiah comes, the Christians will mark him as an anti-Christ and
crucifying him all over again.
Jesus died in vain.
===>He died -- if he lived at all -- "in vain" having stepped forward
to be the liberator king ("Messiah"), hoping for a miracle as he
read and interpreted the prophets (especially Zeachariah).
But for Christianity he is just a figurehead, the rligion being
based on the teachings of the first "Oral Robarts-type", i.e.
Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
Just read the evangelical christians attacking
christians, over something as simple as believing in Evolution --- or
interpreting a verse in a different way --- they're all quick to say "YOU
are going to Hell, and me to Paradise." and all that comes to mind is
history repeating itself.
Here's how Fundamentalist Christians "Save Souls" ...
http://www.christainhistory.com/witches/heretics.html
women being sawed in half and crucified... not to mention the countless
humans beings fed to the fires --- over some stupid, petty difference in
doctrines.
The famous Unitarian Univeralist, Hosea Balloh, once told a fundamentalist
minister, "The difference between us is that YOU are trying to keep people
out of hell, while I am tryiing to keep hell out of people."
===>Good points. -- L.
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| User: "sharon" |
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27 Dec 2003 01:49:46 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEDD17B.EBA48281@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
There's 35,000+ denominations/sects - many being legalistic --- maybe
Christianity is going to need another savior to save it, from itself...
but
if said Messiah comes, the Christians will mark him as an anti-Christ
and
crucifying him all over again.
Jesus died in vain.
===>He died -- if he lived at all -- "in vain" having stepped forward
to be the liberator king ("Messiah"), hoping for a miracle as he
read and interpreted the prophets (especially Zeachariah).
But for Christianity he is just a figurehead, the rligion being
based on the teachings of the first "Oral Robarts-type", i.e.
Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
Just read the evangelical christians attacking
christians, over something as simple as believing in Evolution --- or
interpreting a verse in a different way --- they're all quick to say
"YOU
are going to Hell, and me to Paradise." and all that comes to mind is
history repeating itself.
Here's how Fundamentalist Christians "Save Souls" ...
http://www.christainhistory.com/witches/heretics.html
women being sawed in half and crucified... not to mention the countless
humans beings fed to the fires --- over some stupid, petty difference in
doctrines.
The famous Unitarian Univeralist, Hosea Balloh, once told a
fundamentalist
minister, "The difference between us is that YOU are trying to keep
people
out of hell, while I am tryiing to keep hell out of people."
===>Good points. -- L.
I know. I know. ;)
You helped guide me on that path to a better knowledge and understanding.
Damned good points !
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27 Dec 2003 02:51:41 PM |
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sharon wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:3FEDD17B.EBA48281@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
sharon wrote:
There's 35,000+ denominations/sects - many being legalistic --- maybe
Christianity is going to need another savior to save it, from itself...
but
if said Messiah comes, the Christians will mark him as an anti-Christ
and
crucifying him all over again.
Jesus died in vain.
===>He died -- if he lived at all -- "in vain" having stepped forward
to be the liberator king ("Messiah"), hoping for a miracle as he
read and interpreted the prophets (especially Zeachariah).
But for Christianity he is just a figurehead, the rligion being
based on the teachings of the first "Oral Robarts-type", i.e.
Saul/Paul of Tarsus.
Just read the evangelical christians attacking
christians, over something as simple as believing in Evolution --- or
interpreting a verse in a different way --- they're all quick to say
"YOU
are going to Hell, and me to Paradise." and all that comes to mind is
history repeating itself.
Here's how Fundamentalist Christians "Save Souls" ...
http://www.christainhistory.com/witches/heretics.html
women being sawed in half and crucified... not to mention the countless
humans beings fed to the fires --- over some stupid, petty difference in
doctrines.
The famous Unitarian Univeralist, Hosea Balloh, once told a
fundamentalist
minister, "The difference between us is that YOU are trying to keep
people
out of hell, while I am tryiing to keep hell out of people."
===>Good points. -- L.
I know. I know. ;)
You helped guide me on that path to a better knowledge and understanding.
Damned good points !
===>Thanks. You're much too kind. -- L.
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On 24 Dec 2003 15:41:33 -0800, (bluskie)
posted to alt.atheism:
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com>...
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
Retard.
And she claims to be agnostic.
--
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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24 Dec 2003 06:13:47 PM |
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In article <6130e0b2de537507375d1d76d316c242@news.secureusenet.com>,
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike, and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
Get help.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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29 Dec 2003 12:58:23 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:44:56 GMT, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
I heard the voice of the Almighty speaking to me... in plain, clear
English...
God personally gave his promise not to strike,
He was going for a pay rise?
and that he will gladly
with-hold his wrath upon Christians who accept evolution and the old age of
the earth until what time (if any) science unravels more secrets of the
cosmos.
I hope he does not keep his wrath bottled up. That might make him
neurotic.
-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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