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"Codebreaker" |
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22 Apr 2007 01:01:33 PM |
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If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 01:11:27 PM |
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"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Whew ...............o.d.'d on Prozac!
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| User: "The_Sage" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 09:57:45 PM |
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Reply to article by: Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com>
Date written: 22 Apr 2007 11:01:33 -0700
MsgID:<1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West,
No one calls themselves a scientis just because they have observed that the Sun
rises in the East and sets in the West. That is not what makes a scientist.
how scientist is the one who fixed it this way?
One what? I see the Sun rise in the East and set in the West, and there is no
one that can be observed doing this.
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
No.
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
What God?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
None, but it isn't going to happen except in your imagionation now, isn't it?
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
The Moon is not a being that can make decisions.
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
There is no "if", there is no God and the Ocean will not dry up.
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
That sounds exactly like what Hitler thought.
The Sage
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http://members.cox.net/the.sage/index.htm
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in
one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you
dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why
I dismiss yours" (Stephen F. Roberts)
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 11:24:51 PM |
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Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in
news:1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West,
No. A person is a scientist if they are using the scientific method. The
apparent variation on the rising and setting of the Sun was noted by
ancient peoples. They built monuments such as Stonehenge as a method of
accurately tracking the seasons via the changes in the Sun's rise and set
positions.
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-Solar-Analemma.htm
how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
It is the result of the rotation of the Earth on its' axis, combined with
the obliquity of the Earth's axis of rotation to the plane of the Earth's
orbit around the Sun
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
No. In any case both humans and chimps evolved from a common ancestral
species.
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If pixies were at the bottom of your garden, could you see them?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
Such an orbit of the moon at high obliquity to the plane of the earth's
orbit is not stable.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
The moon reflects the light of the Sun. At least some of this reflected
light intersects the Earth except when the moon is near new.
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
If you catch a leprechaun, will it give you a pot of gold?
Klazmon.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 03:49:15 PM |
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Codebreaker wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
That's "scientific". Careful, CB.
Sorry, but the "sun" doesn't rise or fall. Stand in the middle of your
room and face your door. Now begin to turn. Wow. Now the door is to
your right. How did THAT happen?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
A scientist is one whom observes events, makes predictions, tests those
predictions, and alters the predictions if they turn out to be false.
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
God doesn't "lower" the sun, just as you didn't move the door to your
right. No scientist is going to move your door back to be in front of you.
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
So, let's have it then. Get God to make the Moon rise in the north and
set in the south. Prove all those scientists wrong.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
You really don't seem to understand science at all.
Tell me, who created the computer that you post this tripe on?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Wow, CB. More irrational than normal, I see.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
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| User: "zev" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
23 Apr 2007 03:49:24 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:irWdnXQZqvS1IbbbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
Codebreaker wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
That's "scientific". Careful, CB.
<snipped>
A scientist is one whom observes events, makes predictions, tests those
predictions, and alters the predictions if they turn out to be false.
That's "who". Careful, DS.
Zev
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 03:00:58 PM |
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On Apr 22, 1:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel-...@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Codebreaker wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
That's "scientific". Careful, CB.
Sorry, but the "sun" doesn't rise or fall. Stand in the middle of your
room and face your door. Now begin to turn. Wow. Now the door is to
your right. How did THAT happen?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
A scientist is one whom observes events, makes predictions, tests those
predictions, and alters the predictions if they turn out to be false.
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
God doesn't "lower" the sun, just as you didn't move the door to your
right. No scientist is going to move your door back to be in front of you.
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
So, let's have it then. Get God to make the Moon rise in the north and
set in the south. Prove all those scientists wrong.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
You really don't seem to understand science at all.
Tell me, who created the computer that you post this tripe on?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Wow, CB. More irrational than normal, I see.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 05:27:42 PM |
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Don't drink and post.
"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 07:42:51 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:27:42 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Don't drink and post.
He shouldn't wake up and post. He should only post when he's asleep.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
23 Apr 2007 01:49:18 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:e70o23dni2amuk3maspk8i30ipb2nlhibf@4ax.com...
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:27:42 -0700, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Don't drink and post.
He shouldn't wake up and post. He should only post when he's asleep.
A reasonable alternative.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
23 Apr 2007 06:30:06 PM |
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In article <1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Codebreaker <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Do you have any idea how incomprehensible this is? Better put down that
crack pipe, kid.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: If You Call Yourself A Scientist... |
22 Apr 2007 06:32:51 PM |
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On 22 Apr 2007 11:01:33 -0700 there was an Ancient Codebreaker
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
The Earth rotates because of leftover angular momentum from the
accretion disk that the solar system was born from. We're slowing down
from tidal braking caused by the sun and the moon (and random space
probes stealing our angular momentum for their own orbital needs.
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
A scientist is someone who uses the scientific method to answer
questions. That's it. And speciation takes thousands of years at
minimum for larger forms of life.
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
That makes less sense than usual. We orbit the sun, not the other way
around. And we wobble in that orbit far more than two feet!
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
Every single one, since such an orbit would not be stable.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
The moon is not a sentient object (unless you read David Weber's
"Dahak" series) and it does not shed light. It reflects sunlight.
And, if you had a brain you might have noticed that a few days a month
it does not refelct light to Earth. That's when the side tidally
locked to Earth experiences night.
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Prove this God exists.
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
If you find out you have a heart condition, what are you going to do..
go to a cardiologist who will use all the tools science has developed
to save you, or wait for God to kill you?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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22 Apr 2007 03:25:04 PM |
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On 22 Apr., 20:01, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
TRUECRISTIAN, is that you?
Because this sounds just like you!!!!
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| User: "Martin Phipps" |
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22 Apr 2007 10:54:05 PM |
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On Apr 23, 2:01 am, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
The sun _appears_ to rise in the East because the Earth is rotating in
an Easterly direction.
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
The Earth orbits the sun. It isn't the sun orbiting the Earth.
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
The moon isn't sentient it doesn't decide anything: light from the sun
reflects off the moon. That is why when the Earth sits between the
sun and the moon that we see a lunar eclipse!
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Are all Christians this stupid or just most of them?
Martin
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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22 Apr 2007 09:29:03 PM |
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in article 1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com, Codebreaker
at wrote on 4/22/07 2:01 PM:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Big talk from someone who will be grateful to eat God's garbage...
Paul
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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22 Apr 2007 09:43:09 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C251922E.18533%p.duca@comcast.net...
in article 1177264893.273003.27960@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,
Codebreaker
at wrote on 4/22/07 2:01 PM:
If you call yourself a scientist just because you have observed that
the sun raises in the East and set in the West, how scientist is the
one who fixed it this way?
Even though you had witnessed a human being evolving from a chimp,
would that turn you into a scientist?
If God decides to lower the sun two feet down, what scientist
would fix it back to its former orbit?
If he decides that the Moon would raise in the North and set in the
South
what scientist would say this is abnormal.
If the moon decides not to Shed Light to earth, what CHIEN-Tist would
talk to it or fix it?
If God decides to dry up the whole Ocean, what Chien-tist would fill
it bac up?
Perish the ungratefuls, May ***** them all
Scientist try to understand what is.
Theist try to understand what isn't.
:)
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