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If you want to know the truth about which day is the Sabbath, just ask a non-Sabbatarian... |
and the answer is ( as was supposed ) on Sunday.
the Scared Scriptures holds the answer as to the why's and wherefore's
of Sabbath observance... not the Sabbatarians
in Ex. 20:8-10 we read "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is
a sabbath of the LORD your God; [in it] you shall not do any work, you
or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your
cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. " NASB
what was it that the Israelites were to " Remember " ?
Ex. 20:8-10 refers back to Ex.16... they were to " Remember " that it
was " the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out
of the house of bondage " ...
Ex. 20:8-10 refers back to some previous time... because the Sabbath
was instituted before the Ten Commandments were given...
in Ex. 16:29 we read as Moses explains :
"See, the LORD has given you the sabbath; therefore He gives you bread
for two days on the sixth day. Remain every man in his place; let no
man go out of his place on the seventh day."
this all had to do with grace. at this time manna from heaven was
first given by God. as chapter 16 explains, the Israelites were to
gather a double portion of manna so as to be eaten on the day before
the Sabbath as well as on the Sabbath to which they were not to
gather... because every blessing of God is by grace.
Jesus Himself makes mention of this that He is " the bread of life "
Joh. 6:31-63 and " he who eats this bread will live forever." v 58
just as the Israelites were saved from the Egyptian house of bondage
by the grace of God, so too are the children of God saved from the
house of bondage of Satan, sin and death... which the deliverance from
Egyptian bondage typifies.
just as the Israelites were feed the bread of Christ on the Sabbath by
grace alone apart from works, so too are the elect of God feed by the
Bread of Life, our Lord Jesus Christ... we are feed daily... even as
we pray " and give us this day our daily Bread. " which is
reminiscent of Ex. 16
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" Remembering " the Sabbath is recounting the grace of God through the
Bread of Life, Jesus Christ, who brought us out of the house of
bondage to Satan, sin and death. ( we are not dealing with Pharaoh; we
are dealing with Satan )
the facts in keeping the Sabbath holy are :
1. " Remember " ... that the Lord brought us out of the house of
bondage to Satan, sin and death... by typifying such as the Israelites
bondage to Pharaoh ... see Deut. 5:12-15
Deut. 5:15 " 'And you shall remember that you were a slave in the
land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a
mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God
commanded you to observe the sabbath day. "
2. " Six days you shall labor and do all your work... that you may
rest " Deut. 5:13,14
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with " remembering " and " resting " being spoken of so prominently in
Ex. 16, Ex. 20, and Duet. 5:12-15 it remains therefore to be seen how
this equates to Sundays.
it's not at all surprising that the Sabbatarians should associate
Sunday with pagan sun worship as a charge of infidelity towards a
Sunday Christian.
Sunday Christian gatherings to worship have absolutely nothing to do
with pagan sun worship. such a charge is said out of contempt and is
to be disregarded outright... " some of the Pharisees were saying,
"This man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath."
Joh. 9:16
Jesus created light on the first day of the week, Sunday. Jesus
Christ is the Light of the world. ( Joh. 8:12 ) His hand is in
creating light in the physical realm and as well as being " the true
Light which lighteth every man "... ( Joh. 1:9 ) in the spiritual
realm.
not surprisingly, Jesus is called " the Sun of Righteousness "
Mal. 4:2
the Lord Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday... the most
important event in all of history. the eternal salvation of every one
who has been given the faith of Jesus is secure by this single event.
God could have ordained all of history to coincide the resurrection of
Jesus on some other day, but He didn't. He ordained Sunday, the eight
day, as the day the Lord Jesus would be raised from the dead.
Sunday was the day the Lord God chose for the following
special events besides the resurrection of Jesus Christ :
The Feast of Pentecost : Sunday's
- Held fiftieth day after offering first sheaf of barley
harvest
Le 23:15,16; De 16:9
- CALLED THE :
Feast of harvest... Ex 23:16
Feast of weeks... Ex 34:22; De 16:10
Day of the first fruits... Nu 28:26
Day of Pentecost... Ac 2:1
- To be perpetually observed... Le 23:21
- All males to attend... Ex 23:16,17; De 16:16
- A holy convocation... Le 23:21; Nu 28:26
- A time of holy rejoicing... De 16:11,12
- The first fruits of bread presented at... Le 23:17; De 16:10
- Sacrifices at... Le 23:18,19; Nu 28:27-31
- The Law given from Mount Sinai upon... Ex 12:6,12; 19:1,11
- The Holy Spirit given to apostles at... Ac 2:1-3
- Observed by the church ... Ac 20:16; 1Co 16:8
the flood of Noah ended after the forty days, on a Sunday... the
tops of the mountains became dry he noticed on a Sunday... he sent out
the raven and the dove on a Sunday.
Jesus was likely born on a Sunday, though difficult to say for sure...
on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles for " the Word became
flesh, and ' Tabernacled ' among us " Joh. 1:14... made His tent
among our tents... the only date which merges with the account of His
birth in the Gospels and the feasts of the Old Testament... the First
Day, Sunday, which merges with " Let there be Light " and the flood of
Noah, and manna by grace and so on....
*************************************************
the Sabbatarians are nothing more than Millerites by a different name.
these have bizarre interpretations of Scripture based on imagined
words of God apart from Holy Scripture. they think they are modern day
prophets and prophetesses and only they know the truth... this they
openly admit.
they simply have not entered His ' rest ' as in Hebrews Chapter 4 so
they invented a man made rest for Saturday's... " the Sabbath was made
for man " ...
if the early church was doing something wrong by coming together on
Sundays the Apostles sent by God to form the church would have
corrected them and spoke directly in Letters to them and us concerning
such. which they did not.
the Apostles knew and taught the Lord's Day, Sunday, perfectly matched
all of the Old Testament holy days as well as the only two of the most
holy days of the New Testament.. the Lord's resurrection and the day
the church was established... Pentecost... and the Bible word ' church
' is the same root word in Greek translated ' elect '.
the Sabbatarians will have nothing to do with looking like the Bible
meaning of the church because they are not the elect... they are not
the church.
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it's always interesting to note the motivation behind someone
commanding the Ten Commandments are necessary to salvation... the Ten
Commandments were given on a Sunday, by the way...
in the first place, being called an " infidel " by someone claiming to
be Christian is certainly bearing false witness against his neighbor.
much worse is someone presumptuously perverting Sacred Scripture to
their own ends of Sabbatarianism... which is justification by works...
which of course is blasphemy and bearing false witness against God.
anytime someone takes a verse out of context on a pretext, false
witnessing of Bible truth is taking place, knowingly.
there are many, many more commandments given by God then the Ten
Commandments. the ' why ' behind someone insisting that observing the
Ten Commandments are greater than all other commandments given by God
is to redirect the reader to Saturday Sabbath keeping.
there is always a boast in doing good deeds as if to say... " look at
me... God, I thank Thee that I am not like other people: swindlers,
unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax-gatherer. I fast twice a
week; I pay tithes of all that I get. " Lk. 18:10-14
" by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for
through the Law [comes] the knowledge of sin. " Ro. 3:20
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| User: "James Hajicek" |
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| Title: Re: If you want to know the truth about which day is the Sabbath, justask a non-Sabbatarian... |
04 Feb 2007 02:47:04 PM |
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"old man joe" wrote:
and the answer is ( as was supposed ) on Sunday.
The change was probably made during the Jewish rebellion against the
Romans, which lasted from 66 AD until 69 or 70 AD. The Gentile
Christians, those with little faith, abandoned the Sabbath in an
effort to appear less Jewish. In that way they attempted to avoid
Roman persecution.
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"old man joe" wrote:
in Ex. 20:8-10 we read "Remember the sabbath day, to keep
it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but
the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; [in it]
you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter,
your male or your female servant or your cattle or your
sojourner who stays with you. " NASB
what was it that the Israelites were to " Remember " ?
The scripture says "Remember the SABBATH DAY", something that most
Christians have forgotten. Exodus 20:8 is a veiled prophecy that
someday people would forget to keep the Sabbath.
The Sabbath was a "perpetual covenant":
Exodus 31:16
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath,
to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a
perpetual covenant.
Isaiah warned that the earth will be burned and the inhabitants will
be scattered, with few men left, because they have transgressed the
laws, changed the ordinance, and broken the everlasting covenant:
Isaiah 24:1,5-6
1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it
waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the
inhabitants thereof.
...
5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof;
because they have transgressed the laws, changed the
ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they
that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants
of the earth are burned, and few men left.
The "everlasting covenant" here in Isaiah 24:5 is translated from the
same Hebrew words as the "perpetual covenant" referred to above in
Exodus 31:16.
Daniel warned in prophecy that men would think to make changes to the
"times and laws":
Daniel 7:21,25
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;
...
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to
change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand
until a time and times and the dividing of time.
This is a clear warning that the "times and laws" should NOT be
changed.
The Sabbath is supposed to be kept as a memorial of the creation:
Genesis 2:3
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:
because that in it he had rested from all his work which God
created and made.
Exodus 20:10-11
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
...
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea,
and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:
wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exodus 31:12-13,17
12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying,
Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between
me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know
that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
...
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for
ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on
the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
The seventh day was BLESSED and SANCTIFIED. It is NOT the same as the
other days of the week.
There has been no other commandment or revelation from God that has
changed the day to any other day of the week. Those who deliberately
observe the Sabbath day on some other day of the week do so by their
own initiative, or by the influence of false tradition. They do it in
defiance of the word of God.
It is necessary to keep the Sabbath in the way that God commanded in
order to demonstrate our love of God. Those who refuse to do this are
demonstrating their disrespect for the creation of heaven and earth.
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"old man joe" continued:
Ex. 20:8-10 refers back to Ex.16... they were to " Remember
" that it was " the Lord your God who brought you out of
the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage " ...
The false notion that the Sabbath day is a memorial of the exodus from
Egypt comes primarily from this verse:
Deuteronomy 5:15
15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of
Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence
through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore
the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
However, the weekly Sabbath has nothing whatever to do with the exodus
from Egypt. The scripture is not supposed to contradict itself by
saying one thing in Exodus, and something different in Deuteronomy.
First, the weekly Sabbath is a memorial of the creation, Genesis 2:3,
Exodus 20:11, 31:17.
Second, the memorial of the exodus from Egypt was actually an ANNUAL
sabbath day, the Feast of Unleavened Bread:
Exodus 12:17
17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for
in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the
land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your
generations by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 13:3-4
3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in
which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage;
for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this
place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.
Leviticus 23:5-6
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the
LORD's passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast
of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat
unleavened bread.
Numbers 28:16-17
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the
passover of the LORD.
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast:
seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
Numbers 33:3
3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the
fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the
passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand
in the sight of all the Egyptians.
Deuteronomy is a retelling of the giving of the Ten Commandments.
Somehow, the exodus from Egypt appears in Deuteronomy 5:15 in a way
that makes it appear as if the weekly Sabbath is a memorial of the
exodus.
Note that the Ten Commandments begins with a preamble that identifies
the LORD God as the God which brought the Israelites out of Egypt:
Deuteronomy 5:4,6
4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of
the midst of the fire,
...
6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land
of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
The problem in Deuteronomy 5:15 was probably caused by a sloppy
abridgment of the Bible. There is something missing here:
Deuteronomy 5:15
15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of
Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence
through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm:
* * *
therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the
sabbath day.
The missing scripture probably either: (1) explained the importance of
the Feast of Unleavened Bread as an annual sabbath day, in addition to
the weekly Sabbath, or else (2) clarified that it was the power and
authority of the LORD God that allowed him to give the weekly Sabbath
commandment.
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"old man joe" wrote:
just as the Israelites were saved from the Egyptian house of
bondage by the grace of God, so too are the children of God
saved from the house of bondage of Satan, sin and death...
which the deliverance from Egyptian bondage typifies.
This has some merit. But note that the release from bondage took
place on the day of Jesus' crucifixion.
The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke all state that Jesus and his
disciples observed the passover before the crucifixion. Because Jesus
was free of sin, there is no possibility that the way which Jesus
observed the passover was incorrect. There should be no doubt that
Jesus observed the passover on the correct day, regardless of what the
other Jews were doing. Therefore, the crucifixion was on the true and
correct day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Jesus' sacrifice redeemed mankind from the fall. This was the most
important day in history since the fall of Adam. Although this
sacrifice fulfilled the Passover sacrifice of an actual lamb, it in no
way diminished the importance of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, but
rather increased the significance of this holy day. It should be
commemorated as an annual holy day.
Jesus said that we should keep the day of his sacrifice in
remembrance:
Luke 22:19
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and
gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for
you: this do in remembrance of me.
Also, Paul wrote that the Feast of Unleavened Bread should be kept:
1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new
lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is
sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven,
neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with
the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
I believe that we have been commanded to continue to observe the
Feast of Unleavened Bread. But it must be observed according to
the correct calendar, and not according to the lunar calendar of
the Sadducees and Pharisees.
I believe that the early church began to call the Feast of Unleavened
Bread the "Lord's Day". For example:
Revelation 1:10
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind
me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
The "Lord's day" means the same thing as the "day of the LORD":
Zephaniah 1:7
7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the
day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a
sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.
John apparently understood that this scripture referred to Jesus'
sacrifice, and he probably observed it as an annual holy day.
The Law of Moses has been fulfilled, and the sacrifice of an actual
Passover lamb is no longer required. The Unleavened Bread has become
the bread of the sacrament, the symbolic body of Jesus Christ.
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"old man joe" wrote:
the Sabbatarians are nothing more than Millerites by a
different name. ...
That is incorrect. Many Sabbath keepers, including myself, have no
connection with William Miller, the founder of Adventism.
Moreover, not all Adventists are seventh-day Sabbath keepers. The
Adventist movement split over the Sabbath question. Those who
accepted the seventh-day argument evolved into the Seventh Day
Adventist church. Those who rejected the seventh-day argument
eventually evolved into the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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"old man joe" wrote:
they simply have not entered His ' rest ' as in Hebrews
Chapter 4 so they invented a man made rest for Saturday's...
" the Sabbath was made for man " ...
Jesus said that the Sabbath was MADE for man:
Mark 2:27
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and
not man for the sabbath:
So why do people think that the Sabbath is NOT made for man?
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Jesus said that he was the Lord of the Sabbath:
Matthew 12:8
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mark 2:28
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke 6:5
5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also
of the sabbath.
So why do people think that Jesus does not care about the Sabbath?
Why do they think that they can neglect the Sabbath, without offending
Jesus Christ as well?
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"old man joe" wrote:
if the early church was doing something wrong by coming
together on Sundays the Apostles sent by God to form the
church would have corrected them and spoke directly in
Letters to them and us concerning such. ...
The problem is that the Bible was compiled by the apostate "catholic"
church, and anything that did not agree with their doctrines has been
left out or edited.
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"old man joe" wrote:
" by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His
sight; for through the Law [comes] the knowledge of sin. "
Ro. 3:20
By the word "law", Paul was referring to the added law, the numerous
statutes and ordinances of clean and unclean food, animal sacrifices,
and so forth. He certainly was not giving the Gentiles the right to
murder, to steal, or to commit adultery, so why do people think that
Paul taught that the Ten Commandments were abolished?
- James
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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| Title: Re: If you want to know the truth about which day is the Sabbath, just ask a non-Sabbatarian... |
03 Feb 2007 06:52:14 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:30:53 -0500, old man joe <not@home.com> wrote:
and the answer is ( as was supposed ) on Sunday.
the Scared Scriptures holds the answer as to the why's and wherefore's
of Sabbath observance... not the Sabbatarians
in Ex. 20:8-10 we read "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is
a sabbath of the LORD your God; [in it] you shall not do any work, you
or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your
cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. " NASB
what was it that the Israelites were to " Remember " ?
Ex. 20:8-10 refers back to Ex.16... they were to " Remember " that it
was " the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out
of the house of bondage " ...
Ex. 20:8-10 refers back to some previous time... because the Sabbath
was instituted before the Ten Commandments were given...
in Ex. 16:29 we read as Moses explains :
"See, the LORD has given you the sabbath; therefore He gives you bread
for two days on the sixth day. Remain every man in his place; let no
man go out of his place on the seventh day."
this all had to do with grace. at this time manna from heaven was
first given by God. as chapter 16 explains, the Israelites were to
gather a double portion of manna so as to be eaten on the day before
the Sabbath as well as on the Sabbath to which they were not to
gather... because every blessing of God is by grace.
Jesus Himself makes mention of this that He is " the bread of life "
Joh. 6:31-63 and " he who eats this bread will live forever." v 58
just as the Israelites were saved from the Egyptian house of bondage
by the grace of God, so too are the children of God saved from the
house of bondage of Satan, sin and death... which the deliverance from
Egyptian bondage typifies.
just as the Israelites were feed the bread of Christ on the Sabbath by
grace alone apart from works, so too are the elect of God feed by the
Bread of Life, our Lord Jesus Christ... we are feed daily... even as
we pray " and give us this day our daily Bread. " which is
reminiscent of Ex. 16
***********************************************
" Remembering " the Sabbath is recounting the grace of God through the
Bread of Life, Jesus Christ, who brought us out of the house of
bondage to Satan, sin and death. ( we are not dealing with Pharaoh; we
are dealing with Satan )
the facts in keeping the Sabbath holy are :
1. " Remember " ... that the Lord brought us out of the house of
bondage to Satan, sin and death... by typifying such as the Israelites
bondage to Pharaoh ... see Deut. 5:12-15
Deut. 5:15 " 'And you shall remember that you were a slave in the
land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a
mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God
commanded you to observe the sabbath day. "
2. " Six days you shall labor and do all your work... that you may
rest " Deut. 5:13,14
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with " remembering " and " resting " being spoken of so prominently in
Ex. 16, Ex. 20, and Duet. 5:12-15 it remains therefore to be seen how
this equates to Sundays.
it's not at all surprising that the Sabbatarians should associate
Sunday with pagan sun worship as a charge of infidelity towards a
Sunday Christian.
Sunday Christian gatherings to worship have absolutely nothing to do
with pagan sun worship. such a charge is said out of contempt and is
to be disregarded outright... " some of the Pharisees were saying,
"This man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath."
Joh. 9:16
Jesus created light on the first day of the week, Sunday. Jesus
Christ is the Light of the world. ( Joh. 8:12 ) His hand is in
creating light in the physical realm and as well as being " the true
Light which lighteth every man "... ( Joh. 1:9 ) in the spiritual
realm.
not surprisingly, Jesus is called " the Sun of Righteousness "
Mal. 4:2
the Lord Jesus was raised from the dead on Sunday... the most
important event in all of history. the eternal salvation of every one
who has been given the faith of Jesus is secure by this single event.
God could have ordained all of history to coincide the resurrection of
Jesus on some other day, but He didn't. He ordained Sunday, the eight
day, as the day the Lord Jesus would be raised from the dead.
Sunday was the day the Lord God chose for the following
special events besides the resurrection of Jesus Christ :
The Feast of Pentecost : Sunday's
- Held fiftieth day after offering first sheaf of barley
harvest
Le 23:15,16; De 16:9
- CALLED THE :
Feast of harvest... Ex 23:16
Feast of weeks... Ex 34:22; De 16:10
Day of the first fruits... Nu 28:26
Day of Pentecost... Ac 2:1
- To be perpetually observed... Le 23:21
- All males to attend... Ex 23:16,17; De 16:16
- A holy convocation... Le 23:21; Nu 28:26
- A time of holy rejoicing... De 16:11,12
- The first fruits of bread presented at... Le 23:17; De 16:10
- Sacrifices at... Le 23:18,19; Nu 28:27-31
- The Law given from Mount Sinai upon... Ex 12:6,12; 19:1,11
- The Holy Spirit given to apostles at... Ac 2:1-3
- Observed by the church ... Ac 20:16; 1Co 16:8
the flood of Noah ended after the forty days, on a Sunday... the
tops of the mountains became dry he noticed on a Sunday... he sent out
the raven and the dove on a Sunday.
Jesus was likely born on a Sunday, though difficult to say for sure...
on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles for " the Word became
flesh, and ' Tabernacled ' among us " Joh. 1:14... made His tent
among our tents... the only date which merges with the account of His
birth in the Gospels and the feasts of the Old Testament... the First
Day, Sunday, which merges with " Let there be Light " and the flood of
Noah, and manna by grace and so on....
*************************************************
the Sabbatarians are nothing more than Millerites by a different name.
these have bizarre interpretations of Scripture based on imagined
words of God apart from Holy Scripture. they think they are modern day
prophets and prophetesses and only they know the truth... this they
openly admit.
they simply have not entered His ' rest ' as in Hebrews Chapter 4 so
they invented a man made rest for Saturday's... " the Sabbath was made
for man " ...
if the early church was doing something wrong by coming together on
Sundays the Apostles sent by God to form the church would have
corrected them and spoke directly in Letters to them and us concerning
such. which they did not.
the Apostles knew and taught the Lord's Day, Sunday, perfectly matched
all of the Old Testament holy days as well as the only two of the most
holy days of the New Testament.. the Lord's resurrection and the day
the church was established... Pentecost... and the Bible word ' church
' is the same root word in Greek translated ' elect '.
the Sabbatarians will have nothing to do with looking like the Bible
meaning of the church because they are not the elect... they are not
the church.
***********************************************
it's always interesting to note the motivation behind someone
commanding the Ten Commandments are necessary to salvation... the Ten
Commandments were given on a Sunday, by the way...
in the first place, being called an " infidel " by someone claiming to
be Christian is certainly bearing false witness against his neighbor.
much worse is someone presumptuously perverting Sacred Scripture to
their own ends of Sabbatarianism... which is justification by works...
which of course is blasphemy and bearing false witness against God.
anytime someone takes a verse out of context on a pretext, false
witnessing of Bible truth is taking place, knowingly.
there are many, many more commandments given by God then the Ten
Commandments. the ' why ' behind someone insisting that observing the
Ten Commandments are greater than all other commandments given by God
is to redirect the reader to Saturday Sabbath keeping.
there is always a boast in doing good deeds as if to say... " look at
me... God, I thank Thee that I am not like other people: swindlers,
unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax-gatherer. I fast twice a
week; I pay tithes of all that I get. " Lk. 18:10-14
" by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for
through the Law [comes] the knowledge of sin. " Ro. 3:20
Do you feel threatened by the finger of God?
The teachings of Messiah conflict with Paul.
Why are you so adamant to deny the truth?
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