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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Frank"
Date: 10 Dec 2006 08:07:53 PM
Object: In Order To Save You
Your trust for salvation
must never be in your repentance
or surrender or commitment
or resolve or efforts or church
or baptism or sacrament or anything
other than Jesus Christ.
Repentance, surrender,
commitment, resolve, efforts,
church, baptism, sacrament,
are all good things to do,
but you must not trust in those
to save you
because you cannot be saved
unless you place ALL of your trust
in Jesus who gave his life on the cross
in order to save you.
--
http://roines.home.mindspring.com
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User: "Mary Walker"

Title: Re: In Order To Save You 11 Dec 2006 10:35:56 AM
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Your trust for salvation
must never be in your repentance
or surrender or commitment
or resolve or efforts or church
or baptism or sacrament or anything
other than Jesus Christ.

Jesus was just some bloke. Live with it.
<rest of verbal diarrhea snipped>
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User: "Code Programmer"

Title: Re: In Order To Save You - Gematria 13 Dec 2006 08:56:35 PM
"Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Your trust for salvation
must never be in your repentance
or surrender or commitment
or resolve or efforts or church
or baptism or sacrament or anything
other than Jesus Christ.


Jesus was just some bloke. Live with it.

There are signs emedded into the English Lanugage.
Who put them there? This alphabet is ancient, was used by the Romans, and
most of Europe as offspring of Rome. At the time of Jesus most of the
writing was done in Greek, the New Testament being all Greek. The name
Jesus actually being written as IESOUS (letter by letter translation).
The English language is only modern? Or
is it ancient? History says it came from German originally (at lest in a
secular documentary I saw about it). So how did all these signs come into
the language. Truly it is Amazing and Deserves a Look.
Consider the version you have heard about GOD has been very wrong.
In fact there's a very good chance the version you heard about God was the
propaganda to make you want to hate him. For with the real God, he is just,
he knows hearts, and he is happy so long as we dont go about harming others.
Ironic huh?
In the English language there are patterns of same value words based on
their alphabet position. A prophecy to calculate the number of the beast as
666, has the positions x6. The study of word values is called Gematria.
The Key = 444
English = 444
Gematria = 444
God Son = 444
Jesus = 444
Jewish = 444
Messiah = 444
Gospel = 444
Cross = 444
Ruler = 444
Heavens = 444
Preacher = 444
Rome was the ruler at the time. All Roman Numerals under 1000 written in
their
highest order to lowest add up to 666 as DCLXVI.
DCLXVI = 444 (The Key = 444)
Beast Code = 444
The prophecies of the ANTICHRIST are many with one in particular pointing to
the revealing of him by the number 666. (Rev 13:18)
Beast Test = 666
Calculation = 666
Computer = 666
E Identity = 666 (Electronic Identity)
Ironically the version of Christianity circulating has many extra burdens of
men, reshackled to it from the Old Testament, with an OT mindset instead of
Jesus teachings of peace. So the Antichrist is in fact one of these
Christians. Jesus teaching were about peace and loving kindness as opposed
to fear and violence. The law and order designed to kept by the OT are in
fact kept by keeping the peace.
A true Christian leader, would not be doing war to make peace, while gaining
in financial and political profits at the cost of lives.
The wolf in sheeps clothing is more in line with Antichrist, as it means
both counterfeit and opposite of Christ.
Jesus in the Greek is IESOUS in a letter by letter translation.
Greek letters have their own values and IESOUS = 888 in Greek.
IESOUS = 88 in English x 1
IMMANUEL = 88 as well (the prophecy for the Messiah from Isaiah 7:14)
(The name which means "God with us" as told to Mary in Matt 1)
Astronomy signs in a simulator now back this at Jesus birth fitting with Rev
12 as Virgo on Sept 11, 3BC
(Note Signs in the heavens, there are 88 constellations, and Mercury has 88
day orbit and in mythology is called the messenger of the gods)
This number 888 is an interesting one.
In the Beast Code of English Gematria x 6 these add up to 888...
Scriptures = 888
Old Testament = 888
Jesus Christ = 906
Holy Spirit = 906
Jesus is Lord = 906
Lord of Hosts = 906
These show the same values again.
These show design and not accident.
IESOUS = 528
which is short of 666 by the value of W = 138
W in Hebrew has the value of 6.
WWW can represent 666.
(kind of a hint to other signs)
ASCII code is the computer's way of numbering the alphabet and all the other
characters it uses and even functions like feeding the printer. It has
capital letters called Upper case and normal letters being lower case. When
ASCII code first started, UPPER case was first used, hence it occurs first
in order, with A = 65.
holy = 444 (lower case ASCII code)
HOLY BIBLE = 666 (uppercase ASCII code) (an IDOL or a pointer?) (If the
bible becomes God, then it becomes an Idol replacing Him. Making it
difficult to let God actually be more than the bible, keeping Him in a box
and the mindset in a box. Truly these believers are not used to thinking
beyond traditions and do not have the understanding required to calcuate the
number of beast as is required. An open mind has ears to hear and eyes to
see. The religious of Jesus day were blinded because of their mindset)
In order to program the English x 6 Gematria, the ASCII Code was the easiest
way, as all letters already had a value. In the English alphabet order, A =
1. So to get 65 to equal 1, we simply subtract 64. Then x6.
A result of this is now that ASCII is synchronized to the beast code. So now
even the space between the words can be given a value. And the number
characters of 0 to 9 also get their values. However all that was less than
64 now has negative value and would subtract from the tally. So the absolute
value is used, which takes away any negative signs and makes them all
positive, a valid mathematical function.
The end result of this the QUOTES get values as well so...
"IESOUS" = 888 including the quotes, showing sort of an amazing
synchronization.
The seal of God is 777. In a x6 code, 777 is not possible. However the code
is actually to identify the beast by the value 666 so perhaps this makes
sense?
Seal of God 777 = 666
ANTICHRIST CODE = 888
Gods Coincidences = 888
So if Jesus is just a bloke.
Then why is the English alphabet, combined with the Greek, and with a
pointer from the Roman 666, along with a clue from the Hebrew W=6 (pointing
to Bush which does add up to 666 in many ways)?
Remember the version of God you have had shoved painfully down your throat
was not the real God. It was religion taking over Jesus teachings and
converting people by the sword.
God is love. The whole law and all the prophets is so that we would get
along with another with respect, even like a loving family of mankind. That
is what God wants us to do. The other one is he wants us to drop him a line
some time and talk about how great things are going as we are enjoying
heaven on earth. Heaven where we get along and have the diversity of choice.
This is the end of Jesus teachings. To bring heaven to earth by getting
people to change their mindsets. Religion must die and is killed by fire in
the prophecies and it is called the great harlot and the ***** of Babylon in
the prophecies.
God's simple Message of PEACE on EARTH and GOOD WILL to ALL MEN has been
corrupted.
Use your mind and see. God loves all mankind. Just accept it and be
grateful. All he wants is to feel the love you would love your father with.
One big happy family. This is the balance.
Consider the true worship of God. To have a joy for life which bubbles up
and overflows to make life better for all of those around you. And to be
grateful for it. To love the source of all this joy (God) and to desire it
for everyone (hunger and thirst for righteousness). This is to worship Him
in spirit and in truth, as Jesus said to the woman at the well. See here in
his example, he talked plainly to her one on one and didnt condemn her. He
could talk plainly to her, because she was not religiously blinded by
traditions of thinking they already had it. If we think we have it, we
become deaf and blind.
see many signs about the BEAST being in power as Christian right now...
http://beast666.faithweb.com/signs666.htm
--
PEace
www.worldpeace.mail333.com
Ray M O'Keeffe
An open mind has eyes to see and ears to hear.
If you don't get to the end because you dont like the message, then dont be
surprised when it all goes south and you didnt see it coming.
God loves everyone. Remember that.
Blessed are the peace makers they shall be called the sons of God.
Many 666 Signs Point to 1 man...
http://beast666.faithweb.com/signs666.htm
5th Trumpet Fulfilled (Iraq) Pictures show prophecies.
http://beast666.faithweb.com/FifthTrumpet.htm
911 Foreknown by God points to Beast in Power
http://www.id-chip.4t.com/
www.angelfire.com/oz/zen/prophecy/
http://watchman888.land.ru/images/
http://beast666.faithweb.com/
.


User: "Mark T moi@0975526475876908545498598976464"

Title: Re: In Order To Save You 10 Dec 2006 08:28:38 PM
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:

Your trust for salvation

... should be in the One God not his human Messiah
--
"I (YAHWEH NOT YAHWEH'S MESSIAH), even I ( NOT YAHWEH'S MESSIAH), am he who
blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no
more. " - Isaiah 43:25
Then God spoke all these words. He said: 'I am Yahweh your God who brought
you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have NO
GODS (INCLUDING JESUS) EXCEPT ME.' - Exodus 20: 1-2
--
My Blog - - my thoughts on Christianity/ song covers & pics & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
.
User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: In Order To Save You 10 Dec 2006 08:40:49 PM
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:28:38 +1100, "Mark T"
<moi@0975526475876908545498598976464> wrote:

"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote:

Your trust for salvation


... should be in the One God not his human Messiah

Unfortunately, Jehovah is the Devil pretending to be God. The Messiah
has nothing to do with the evil lord. In fact, the Messiah was
crucified in the hands of the evil lord just like all the rest of
innocent victims who were sacrificed to the force of evil throughout
human history.


--
"I (YAHWEH NOT YAHWEH'S MESSIAH), even I ( NOT YAHWEH'S MESSIAH), am he who
blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no
more. " - Isaiah 43:25

Then God spoke all these words. He said: 'I am Yahweh your God who brought
you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have NO
GODS (INCLUDING JESUS) EXCEPT ME.' - Exodus 20: 1-2

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