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20 Dec 2005 05:55:05 PM |
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Intelligent design teaching ban |
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Judge John Jones ruled the school board had violated the constitutional
ban on teaching religion in public schools.
The 11 parents who brought the case argued that teaching intelligent
design (ID) was effectively teaching creationism, which is banned.
And quite f** right too. That's one thing the US has done that's right
for a change.
Tam
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| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 02:52:11 AM |
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"naebad" <minnaebad@yahoo.co.uk> astounded us with:
news:1135122904.964690.245980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Those fucks are so stupid that a chalkboard is too complicated to them...
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 06:00:15 AM |
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"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%I8qf.73173$V7.12825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"naebad" <minnaebad@yahoo.co.uk> astounded us with:
news:1135122904.964690.245980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Those fucks are so stupid that a chalkboard is too complicated to them...
Hallelujah and praise the Lord.
The Yankie courts have finally done something rational and intelligent.
Glad tidings indeed.
Happy Winter Solstice everyone.
A W-S
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| User: "MacP" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 08:03:37 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:15 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%I8qf.73173$V7.12825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"naebad" <minnaebad@yahoo.co.uk> astounded us with:
news:1135122904.964690.245980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Those fucks are so stupid that a chalkboard is too complicated to them...
Hallelujah and praise the Lord.
The Yankie courts have finally done something rational and intelligent.
Glad tidings indeed.
Happy Winter Solstice everyone.
A W-S
An the syme ta you, coffie gadjie!
I guess where you are it's the longest day.
MacP
"Mur a bi i gun tarrag, 's ann LEAMSA!"
"If she ain't nailed down, she's MINE!"
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 08:11:07 PM |
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"MacP" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:43a95ffa.1295983@news...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:15 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Lörd Phÿltêr" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%I8qf.73173$V7.12825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"naebad" <minnaebad@yahoo.co.uk> astounded us with:
news:1135122904.964690.245980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach
evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was
too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Those fucks are so stupid that a chalkboard is too complicated to
them...
Hallelujah and praise the Lord.
The Yankie courts have finally done something rational and intelligent.
Glad tidings indeed.
Happy Winter Solstice everyone.
A W-S
An the syme ta you, coffie gadjie!
I guess where you are it's the longest day.
Brilliant deduction.
However, that doesn't deter many idiot Kiwis from dressing up as that figure
from the old Coca Cola advert and passing out from heat-stroke. (ho ho ho)
The shop windows are sprayed with 'artificial snow' (s'okay big man - the
ozone layer has already been destroyed down here) and adorned with
Scandinavian pagan symbols covered in lights that burn all the long hot
days.
It's absurd enough in a northern Europe winter but mid-summer in the
Pacific? Honestly - I'm embarressed for them.
I shall be celebrating the solstice (that's 'Christmas' or 'Holidays' to
adherents of the new religions) with some ice-cold champagne out under our
new shaded pergola.
Gonna have to spray the pavers with water to get the temperature down to
just-bearable.
A W-S
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 11:01:37 PM |
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Anti+truths may prove the story of Creation True.=A9
With the current move to remove the theory of 'intelligent design'
from schools, I would put forth the 'thesis' that part of the two
stories of Genesis may be proven true through the discovery of
'anti-truths'. What is an anti+truth ?
Before you read on, be aware that the current definitions of
'truth' and 'lie' are incomplete, due to the expansion of the
definition of 'half-truth' to include truths that are part of the
truth that deceive. There are some 6 or so new paradigms concerning
half-truths, including literal half of the truth statements that create
deceptive lie. We will for this argument concern ourselves with a
statement that is true, but is a minor truth, or part of a greater
truth; referred to as 'anti-truths'.
An anti+truth is a truth that lies, it is a truth, that is part of a
greater truth, a truth deceives that polarizes. It is part of the
whole truth, like looking at one side of the coin, and failing to see
the other sides; a coin has three sides, not two.
The Bible and the story of Genesis contains two main stories. The
first part deals with how God created the universe, a difficult thing
to prove. However, the book of Genesis also contains another story
about the Garden of Eden, and the story of how "Adam and Eve" was
deceived by the devil, through 'original sin'. Through the
discovery of 'anti-truths', I would suggest that this is how the
'original sin' entered human philosophy and has remained with us
until today.
The lack of insight into the negative side to truth, or
"anti+truths" is what I suggest may be the original "sin" of
programming that was passed down to us from Adam and Eve and the story
of the Garden of Eden.
The metaphoric 'tree of knowledge' may represent the tree of
truths, however, mankind has been deceived, as were Adam and Eve to
believe that they would be like God to know The Truth. The fruit of
this tree, truths can lie, absolute true truths, can deceive when they
are parts of the greater truth.
Truth is relative to time and space. Truth has a duality factor, it, in
reference to 'truths' (not to be confused with The Truth) are
absolute and relative. Different truths do not have conflict with The
Truth, merely different relative views of the situation.
A better model of the negative side to truth, can be highlighted by the
scientific model of LIGHT, that is Light can be refracted to form
different colors, each distinct and different, yet each part of the
whole colorless color of LIGHT. Perhaps the hidden message of Jesus
Christ.
I would suggest that if we can prove the part of the story of Genesis
true, through the expanded and more correct definition of
'half-truth' then I would suggest that proving one of the
unbelievable stories in Genesis true, would make it more probable that
the other part of Genesis is also true; God created the Universe.
Merry Christmas !
Caesar J. B. Squitti
The Jesus Christ Code. =A9 http://www.jesuschristcode.com
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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23 Dec 2005 11:36:48 PM |
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wrote:
Anti+truths may prove the story of Creation True.¿
With the current move to remove the theory of 'intelligent design'
from schools, I would put forth the 'thesis' that part of the two
stories of Genesis may be proven true through the discovery of
'anti-truths'. What is an anti+truth ?
===>It is a kind of fertilizer:
BOVINE EXCREMENT. -- L.
I.D. is just a
"religious alternative masquerading as a scientific theory"
"even that minimal statement amounted to an endorsement of religion,
the judge concluded, because it caused students to doubt the theory of
evolution without scientific justification and presented them with a religious
alternative masquerading as a scientific theory.
The case was most notable for its searching inquiry into whether
intelligent design could be considered science. The answer, after a six-
week trial that included hours of expert testimony, was a resounding no.
The judge found that intelligent design violated the centuries-old ground
rules of science by invoking supernatural causation and by making
assertions that could not be tested or proved wrong. Moreover, intelligent
design has not gained acceptance in the scientific community, has not been
supported by peer-reviewed research, and has not generated a research
and testing program of its own. The core argument for intelligent design -
the supposedly irreducible complexity of key biological systems -
has clear theological overtones. As long ago as the 13th century, St.
Thomas Aquinas argued that because nature is complex, it must have
a designer.
The religious thrust behind Dover's policy was unmistakable. The board
members who pushed the policy through had repeatedly expressed religious
reasons for opposing evolution, though they tried to dissemble during the trial.
Judge Jones charged that the two ringleaders lied in depositions to hide the
fact that they had raised money at a church to buy copies of an intelligent
design textbook for the school library. He also found that board members
were strikingly ignorant about intelligent design and that several individuals
had lied time and again to hide their religious motivations for backing the
concept. Their contention that they had a secular purpose - to improve \
science education and encourage critical thinking - was declared a sham."
FROM:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
EDITORIAL
"Intelligent Design Derailed"
Published: December 22, 200
ALSO SEE:
"Kristi L. Bowman, a law professor at Drake University in Des Moines,
said that technically the judge's ruling was legally binding only in part of
Pennsylvania and that no other courts in the country must follow it.
"That aside," Professor Bowman said, "this is such a thorough,
well-researched opinion that covers all possible bases in terms of the
legal arguments that intelligent design advocates present, that I think
any school board or state board of education thinking about adopting
an intelligent design policy should think twice."
Professor Bowman attended part of the Dover trial and expects her
article on intelligent design to be in The Harvard Journal of Law and
Public Policy.
The legal fees incurred may be "an even stronger cautionary signal to
school districts around the country than the actual decision," Professor
Bowman said.
The Dover school district is now liable for the legal fees incurred by the
plaintiffs - which plaintiffs lawyers say could exceed $1 million."
FROM:
December 22, 2005
"Schools Nationwide Study Impact of Evolution Ruling"
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Dec 2005 09:20:05 AM |
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On 21 Dec 2005 21:01:37 -0800, wrote:
Anti+truths may prove the story of Creation True.©
***** off, moron.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
21 Dec 2005 11:30:11 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:11:07 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"MacP" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:43a95ffa.1295983@news...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:15 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"L?Ph?r" <phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%I8qf.73173$V7.12825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"naebad" <minnaebad@yahoo.co.uk> astounded us with:
news:1135122904.964690.245980@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
from our BBC correspondent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4545822.stm
A court in the US has ruled against the teaching of "intelligent
design" alongside Darwin's theory of evolution.
A group of parents in the Pennsylvania town of Dover had taken the
school board to court for demanding biology classes not teach
evolution
as fact.
The authorities wanted to introduce the idea that Earth's life was
too
complicated to have evolved on its own.
Those fucks are so stupid that a chalkboard is too complicated to
them...
Hallelujah and praise the Lord.
The Yankie courts have finally done something rational and intelligent.
Glad tidings indeed.
Happy Winter Solstice everyone.
A W-S
An the syme ta you, coffie gadjie!
I guess where you are it's the longest day.
Brilliant deduction.
However, that doesn't deter many idiot Kiwis from dressing up as that figure
from the old Coca Cola advert and passing out from heat-stroke. (ho ho ho)
The shop windows are sprayed with 'artificial snow' (s'okay big man - the
ozone layer has already been destroyed down here) and adorned with
Scandinavian pagan symbols covered in lights that burn all the long hot
days.
It's absurd enough in a northern Europe winter but mid-summer in the
Pacific? Honestly - I'm embarressed for them.
I shall be celebrating the solstice (that's 'Christmas' or 'Holidays' to
adherents of the new religions) with some ice-cold champagne out under our
new shaded pergola.
Gonna have to spray the pavers with water to get the temperature down to
just-bearable.
A W-S
I just heard that in Adelaide, it's going to be 38C plus a bit
tomorrow. (Over 100F)
But the bad bit is: hot wind gusts of up to 100kph (>60mph)...
Looks like ideal weather for the crazed firebugs.
Bloody scary, mate.
And some people here still put real candles on their xmas trees!
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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23 Dec 2005 06:34:31 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message .
I shall be celebrating the solstice (that's 'Christmas' or 'Holidays' to
adherents of the new religions) with some ice-cold champagne out under
our
new shaded pergola.
Gonna have to spray the pavers with water to get the temperature down to
just-bearable.
A W-S
I just heard that in Adelaide, it's going to be 38C plus a bit
tomorrow. (Over 100F)
But the bad bit is: hot wind gusts of up to 100kph (>60mph)...
Looks like ideal weather for the crazed firebugs.
Bloody scary, mate.
I did notice that Adelaide was getting it bad - Cairns has been one of the
hottest places in the world for that last couple of weeks too.
Well - 'the world' according to the Kiwi newspapers that is.
35C every day.
To be honest - since I wrote that the wind here switched 180 degrees and
it's been down to 19C and pissing rain all day today!
My poor Petunias.
Back to the dreaded Nor westers tommorrow though apparently.
And some people here still put real candles on their xmas trees!
That's a real shocker Blu - You'd think the authorites would have managed to
get electricity to the whole country by now eh?
A W-S
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Dec 2005 03:52:59 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message .
I shall be celebrating the solstice (that's 'Christmas' or 'Holidays' to
adherents of the new religions) with some ice-cold champagne out under
our
new shaded pergola.
Gonna have to spray the pavers with water to get the temperature down to
just-bearable.
A W-S
I just heard that in Adelaide, it's going to be 38C plus a bit
tomorrow. (Over 100F)
But the bad bit is: hot wind gusts of up to 100kph (>60mph)...
Looks like ideal weather for the crazed firebugs.
Bloody scary, mate.
I did notice that Adelaide was getting it bad - Cairns has been one of the
hottest places in the world for that last couple of weeks too.
Well - 'the world' according to the Kiwi newspapers that is.
35C every day.
To be honest - since I wrote that the wind here switched 180 degrees and
it's been down to 19C and pissing rain all day today!
My poor Petunias.
Back to the dreaded Nor westers tommorrow though apparently.
And some people here still put real candles on their xmas trees!
That's a real shocker Blu - You'd think the authorites would have managed to
get electricity to the whole country by now eh?
The pubs get priority over xmas trees.
Electricity stops there, as the linesman are then too pissed to do any
more work.
A W-S
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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23 Dec 2005 10:14:07 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message . a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Could be true.
It has been 41.5C even here in south island NZ a couple of years ago.
I've been in 53C once. In Marrakech on the 8th August 1974 to be precise.
Temperatures like that tend to stick in your memory.
I had to pay a kid to go and buy me a ticket at the station 'cos Whitey
couldn't go out in it for more than a couple of minutes, so queuing up for
half an hour was out of the question.
My ex once experienced 55C in the Persian Gulf.
It's back to 26C here today - just about right in fact.
A W-S
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| User: "stoney" |
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25 Dec 2005 08:29:32 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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25 Dec 2005 10:18:07 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
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| User: "Craig Cockburn" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
28 Dec 2005 03:24:33 PM |
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In message <0mruq1toilf37s8nbvb44dep3ooo32th2m@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes
Relevant to the base note on intelligent design, this may be of interest
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=661
--
Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). http://www.SiliconGlen.com/
Please sign the Spam Petition: http://www.siliconglen.com/spampetition/
Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994.
Scottish FAQ, weddings, website design, stop spam and more!
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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28 Dec 2005 03:36:30 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:24:33 +0000, Craig Cockburn
<craig@siliconglen.com> spake thusly:
In message <0mruq1toilf37s8nbvb44dep3ooo32th2m@4ax.com>, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes
Relevant to the base note on intelligent design, this may be of interest
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=661
Boy, you're just a scientific wiz, huh? <chuckle>
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
"A LITTLE WHILE, and ye shall not see me:
and again, A LITTLE WHILE and ye shall
see me, because I go to the Father."
- John 16:16
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
26 Dec 2005 09:58:37 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
27 Dec 2005 12:44:31 AM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com...
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Try working in 165 degree F.
I have.
Inside steel pipes next to metal with a surface temperature of 155C.
It had to be that hot as a pre-heat for the welders.
We were supposed to work in that for ten minutes at a stretch with all the
layers of fireproof gear, face-masks, safety hat (!) etc.
I did one shift of that and got myself transferred to the fab shops - ****
that.
One guy died of heatstroke a few weeks later - prompting the infamous
'orange juice strike' where the newspapers said we were out on strike for
free ornage juice and most people seemed to believe it.
We just wanted the welding process slowed down so the surface temperature
could be reduced to 105 C so as no-one else would die - perfectly possible
from an engineering stance but it would have cost the company extra money.
A W-S
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27 Dec 2005 09:22:42 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:44:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com...
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Try working in 165 degree F.
I have.
Inside steel pipes next to metal with a surface temperature of 155C.
EEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
It had to be that hot as a pre-heat for the welders.
We were supposed to work in that for ten minutes at a stretch with all the
layers of fireproof gear, face-masks, safety hat (!) etc.
I did one shift of that and got myself transferred to the fab shops - ****
that.
Indeed.
One guy died of heatstroke a few weeks later - prompting the infamous
'orange juice strike' where the newspapers said we were out on strike for
free ornage juice and most people seemed to believe it.
We just wanted the welding process slowed down so the surface temperature
could be reduced to 105 C so as no-one else would die - perfectly possible
from an engineering stance but it would have cost the company extra money.
That hit them right in their god.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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27 Dec 2005 11:26:26 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Try working in 165 degree F.
I used to work with a company that did nuclear plant maintenance. I
worked with a fellow who was rather famous in that circle. Among other
things he got his entire year's allowed radiation dosage in about 5
minutes. He was lowered down into something or other reached out and
turned a bolt. That was it and he was not allowed back on a nuclear
plant in the whole country for a year. 165F sounds much better.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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27 Dec 2005 05:26:06 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:26:26 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Try working in 165 degree F.
I used to work with a company that did nuclear plant maintenance. I
worked with a fellow who was rather famous in that circle. Among other
things he got his entire year's allowed radiation dosage in about 5
minutes. He was lowered down into something or other reached out and
turned a bolt. That was it and he was not allowed back on a nuclear
plant in the whole country for a year. 165F sounds much better.
Was his name "Homer"?
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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28 Dec 2005 02:54:47 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:3cj3r159jabsjnjo6aea71na3dutrj5l95@4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:26:26 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Try working in 165 degree F.
I used to work with a company that did nuclear plant maintenance. I
worked with a fellow who was rather famous in that circle. Among other
things he got his entire year's allowed radiation dosage in about 5
minutes. He was lowered down into something or other reached out and
turned a bolt. That was it and he was not allowed back on a nuclear
plant in the whole country for a year. 165F sounds much better.
Was his name "Homer"?
Er... I think that *was* Homer.
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28 Dec 2005 09:49:14 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:26:26 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <sn40r15ni6rtve37ijp5junsc5r3ipssee@4ax.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Try working in 165 degree F.
I used to work with a company that did nuclear plant maintenance. I
worked with a fellow who was rather famous in that circle. Among other
things he got his entire year's allowed radiation dosage in about 5
minutes. He was lowered down into something or other reached out and
turned a bolt. That was it and he was not allowed back on a nuclear
plant in the whole country for a year. 165F sounds much better.
Yes it does. Radiation's some 'slippery' stuff.
When a sub is in dry dock and they've got to do a resin change (not
sure what that is) they've got to crack access through the hull to the
reactor. All but dry dock duty personnel are evacuated from the dry
dock. Sub crews sit tight, iirc.
Even in dry dock with standard sandblasting and painting of the sub
there's an area on each side of the sub which is cordoned off with the
radiation warning tape.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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26 Dec 2005 05:20:47 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Been there, done that. I used to work in an injection molding plant.
It was hell in the summer. It wasn't uncommon for press operators to
pass out from the heat. Fortunately, I was the QC inspector, so it
wasn't quite as bad for me.
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27 Dec 2005 09:20:57 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:20:47 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Been there, done that. I used to work in an injection molding plant.
It was hell in the summer. It wasn't uncommon for press operators to
pass out from the heat. Fortunately, I was the QC inspector, so it
wasn't quite as bad for me.
You weren't chained to the machine.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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26 Dec 2005 04:18:47 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give that one a miss!!
I think I'd have trouble merely breathing in that heat.
(That was 'in the shade', wasn't it?
If you mean 165F in the sun, then I may have come close to that,
rounding up cattle (on horseback) in the Australian desert in
mid-summer, middle of the day, while it was around 114F in the shade.
You sure earn your beer doing that.
And an award for being a total idiot, for not making someone else do
it.)
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Dec 2005 09:20:14 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:48:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give that one a miss!!
I think I'd have trouble merely breathing in that heat.
(That was 'in the shade', wasn't it?
Under flourescent lights in the boiler room of a DDG equipped with 4
1,200 psi boilers under emergency power conditions. I was working on
a malfunctioning motor controller for a good amount of time before
removing the thing to the electric shop.
The emergency power generators were junk so each boiler room had one
vent fan operational on low speed. That was the best we could do.
If you mean 165F in the sun, then I may have come close to that,
rounding up cattle (on horseback) in the Australian desert in
mid-summer, middle of the day, while it was around 114F in the shade.
You sure earn your beer doing that.
And an award for being a total idiot, for not making someone else do
it.)
You hadn't learned to delegate yet.
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
Should have covered them with a brolly.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
27 Dec 2005 05:25:17 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:20:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:48:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give that one a miss!!
I think I'd have trouble merely breathing in that heat.
(That was 'in the shade', wasn't it?
Under flourescent lights in the boiler room of a DDG equipped with 4
1,200 psi boilers under emergency power conditions. I was working on
a malfunctioning motor controller for a good amount of time before
removing the thing to the electric shop.
The emergency power generators were junk so each boiler room had one
vent fan operational on low speed. That was the best we could do.
I'm seriously surprised that you didn't expire.
You can keep that job!
If you mean 165F in the sun, then I may have come close to that,
rounding up cattle (on horseback) in the Australian desert in
mid-summer, middle of the day, while it was around 114F in the shade.
You sure earn your beer doing that.
And an award for being a total idiot, for not making someone else do
it.)
You hadn't learned to delegate yet.
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
Should have covered them with a brolly.....
I didn't bring one.
Made the mistake of trusting the weather forecast, you see.
(Yes, I know: 'were you born yesterday?')
But it's all right in the end. As it turns out, my friends know me too
well, and every single present was wet on the inside, with a glass
wrapping, if you know what I mean!
No bottles of Scotch though :(
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
30 Dec 2005 02:58:08 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:55:17 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:20:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:48:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give that one a miss!!
I think I'd have trouble merely breathing in that heat.
(That was 'in the shade', wasn't it?
Under flourescent lights in the boiler room of a DDG equipped with 4
1,200 psi boilers under emergency power conditions. I was working on
a malfunctioning motor controller for a good amount of time before
removing the thing to the electric shop.
The emergency power generators were junk so each boiler room had one
vent fan operational on low speed. That was the best we could do.
I'm seriously surprised that you didn't expire.
You can keep that job!
If you mean 165F in the sun, then I may have come close to that,
rounding up cattle (on horseback) in the Australian desert in
mid-summer, middle of the day, while it was around 114F in the shade.
You sure earn your beer doing that.
And an award for being a total idiot, for not making someone else do
it.)
You hadn't learned to delegate yet.
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
Should have covered them with a brolly.....
I didn't bring one.
Made the mistake of trusting the weather forecast, you see.
(Yes, I know: 'were you born yesterday?')
But it's all right in the end. As it turns out, my friends know me too
well, and every single present was wet on the inside, with a glass
wrapping, if you know what I mean!
No bottles of Scotch though :(
Dateline, Adelaide, 30 Dec 2005.
It has now reached a mild and barmy 48C.
(>118F in the old money)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
30 Dec 2005 10:34:36 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:28:08 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:55:17 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
[]
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
Should have covered them with a brolly.....
I didn't bring one.
Made the mistake of trusting the weather forecast, you see.
(Yes, I know: 'were you born yesterday?')
But it's all right in the end. As it turns out, my friends know me too
well, and every single present was wet on the inside, with a glass
wrapping, if you know what I mean!
No bottles of Scotch though :(
Dateline, Adelaide, 30 Dec 2005.
It has now reached a mild and barmy 48C.
(>118F in the old money)
Mojave Desert temperatures. I do hope the humidity wasn't high.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Intelligent design teaching ban |
28 Dec 2005 09:44:01 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:55:17 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:20:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:48:47 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:58:37 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:48:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:29:32 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:22:59 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:34:31 +1300, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
[]
P.S. I just heard (Sat 24th 8am, on Oz Radio National) a weather
report for central Queensland that MUST be an error.
It was for Boxing day: Temperatures "IN THE HIGH 40s"!!
Bloody hell, almost literally.
EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Find a shaded swimming pool and stay in it all day.
Yeah.
The reverse of those Japanese macaques who spent the day in a natural
hot pool, whilst snow falls around them.
Try working in 165 degree F.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll give that one a miss!!
I think I'd have trouble merely breathing in that heat.
(That was 'in the shade', wasn't it?
Under flourescent lights in the boiler room of a DDG equipped with 4
1,200 psi boilers under emergency power conditions. I was working on
a malfunctioning motor controller for a good amount of time before
removing the thing to the electric shop.
The emergency power generators were junk so each boiler room had one
vent fan operational on low speed. That was the best we could do.
I'm seriously surprised that you didn't expire.
You can keep that job!
I was probably down there a couple hours total. I disconnected
everything and brought the panel mounted guts back to the electric
shop. It was a very interesting problem plus the system was miswired.
I figure it was the burned carbon track that glowed red that was the
deal breaker.
The problem was the motor controller would only be off while the off
button was pressed. Something, probably the carbon track, was keeping
the M Auxillary contacts closed.
The next day the E6 and I were working with it, me at the controller
he at an auxillary station, utilizing headphones to determine what
line went where and rewired it all.
If you mean 165F in the sun, then I may have come close to that,
rounding up cattle (on horseback) in the Australian desert in
mid-summer, middle of the day, while it was around 114F in the shade.
You sure earn your beer doing that.
And an award for being a total idiot, for not making someone else do
it.)
You hadn't learned to delegate yet.
As it turns out, the weathermen were totally wrong, sofaras their
forecast for my neck-o-the-woods is concerned.
It rained all day Xmas, and was so cold that I had to put a jacket on.
My presents even got wet. :(
Should have covered them with a brolly.....
I didn't bring one.
Made the mistake of trusting the weather forecast, you see.
(Yes, I know: 'were you born yesterday?')
Nah, I wasn't going to say that.
But it's all right in the end. As it turns out, my friends know me too
well, and every single present was wet on the inside, with a glass
wrapping, if you know what I mean!
No bottles of Scotch though :(
bummer.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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