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Topic:	Religions > Bible
User:	"Jason Gastrich"
Date:	27 Apr 2005 02:11:50 AM
Object:	Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon. I'm
afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27 years
later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.
jwolf
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User: "Enkidu the Atheist"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 09:12:02 PM

"Jason Gastrich" <jasongastrich1@aol.com> wrote in
news:1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

This post is reprehensible. In all Jason has said and done, there has
never been a hint that he does not love his child, and does anything but
his best for her.
Leave the children out of it, *****.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
--Thomas Jefferson, February 10, 1814
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User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 09:56:55 AM

"Jason Gastrich" <jasongastrich1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Wow... not cool, not funny. This goes beyond "poor taste"; it's sick.
Child abuse is no joke.
Just Mark
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User: "lizzard woman"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:10:44 AM

"Jason Gastrich" <jasongastrich1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
|I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon. I'm
| afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
| Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27 years
| later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
| asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.
Don't bring innocent children into this. Very wrong.
--
sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
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User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:21:54 AM

"lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:obMbe.1142581$6l.711044@pd7tw2no...

Indeed. Jason did that with me, and though it took about a month, he
finally apologized for doing so.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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User: "lizzard woman"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:51:12 AM

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3d9hv2F6qr0clU1@individual.net...
|
| "lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> wrote in message
| news:obMbe.1142581$6l.711044@pd7tw2no...
| > "Jason Gastrich" <jasongastrich1@aol.com> wrote in message
| > news:1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| > |I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon. I'm
| > | afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
| > | Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27
years
| > | later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
| > | asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.
| >
| > Don't bring innocent children into this. Very wrong.
|
| Indeed. Jason did that with me, and though it took about a month, he
| finally apologized for doing so.
I remember that exchange.
But let's remember that Gastrich is a victim also, of the inculcation by his
parents. He was never given the gift of free thought by them. While this
is no "excuse" and he could certainly avail himself of the evidence, I think
it does qualify as a "reason" for some of the over the top things he does.
--
sharon, aa #2153
"(of creationism) ... Only apocryphal tales told by goat herders around the
campfire after it became too dark to continue to molest their charges." --
TvG (Rec.Equestrian, 2003)
"Easy -- he's the Right Reverend Admiral Jason Gastrich, BSc, MSc, DVM, ThD,
PhD, MD, JD, Esq, US Navy (Ret). If the bible happened to put things in the
wrong order, well, our boy the Doctor will just fix it right up there!" --
Rightshu (IIDB, 2004)
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User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:58:40 AM

"lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:kNMbe.1142625$8l.862001@pd7tw1no...

I'm

| > | afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
| > | Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27
years
| > | later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
| > | asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.
| >
| > Don't bring innocent children into this. Very wrong.
|
| Indeed. Jason did that with me, and though it took about a month, he
| finally apologized for doing so.

I remember that exchange.

But let's remember that Gastrich is a victim also, of the inculcation by

his

parents. He was never given the gift of free thought by them. While this
is no "excuse" and he could certainly avail himself of the evidence, I

think

it does qualify as a "reason" for some of the over the top things he does.

You've pretty much described every theist I know with kids. Of course they
don't give the gift of "free thought". Since they believe, they feel
obligated to force it on their children.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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User: "Tom McDonald"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:40:46 PM

Robibnikoff wrote:

"lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:kNMbe.1142625$8l.862001@pd7tw1no...

I'm

his

parents. He was never given the gift of free thought by them. While this
is no "excuse" and he could certainly avail himself of the evidence, I

think

it does qualify as a "reason" for some of the over the top things he does.

You've pretty much described every theist I know with kids. Of course they
don't give the gift of "free thought". Since they believe, they feel
obligated to force it on their children.

That does not describe my mother (or my father, according to my
family; he died before I was old enough to know him). It did
describe their parents, however. While your experience is your
experience, it isn't as universal as you might think.
Oh, and it does not describe me. You might ask my grown son.
And BTW, the original post is vile and unworthy of any decent
human being, of any religious or a-religious or anti-religious
stripe.
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 09:32:43 AM

In our last episode <1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Jason Gastrich pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon. I'm
afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child! Man I
was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27 years later.
I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not asbusing Jordon.
if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

Skippy, whoever you are, you need to go read up on "libel per se." A
definition of which can be found here:
http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=1154&bold=%7C%7C%7C%7C
I'm no fan of Gastrich but accusations of child abuse are *wholly out of
line.
Oh and you have an AOL account. AOL gives up user information at the
slightest whiff of legal action...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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User: "David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 10:04:57 AM

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In our last episode

<1114585910.150402.8800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

Jason Gastrich pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare

proclaimed:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a

child! Man I

was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27 years

later.

I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not asbusing

Jordon.

if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

Skippy, whoever you are, you need to go read up on "libel per se." A
definition of which can be found here:

http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=1154&bold=%7C%7C%7C%7C

I'm no fan of Gastrich but accusations of child abuse are *wholly out

line.

Oh and you have an AOL account. AOL gives up user information at the
slightest whiff of legal action...

Clearly idiotic trolling that is beyond contempt. Even in
usenet this is ridiculous and should not be tolerated.
.

User: "Grendel"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 03:08:30 PM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

I am really worried

You should be afraid.
If the real Jason wanted to take you to court, he could.
You have left an easily traceable post.
Here is your posting IP...do you know what that is?
64.12.116.7
It's like a finger print.
Want to know how we know it is an AOL IP?
This is a reverse DNS IP entry.
Name: cache-mtc-aa03.proxy.aol.com
Address: 64.12.116.7
z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.116.7;
posting-account=C8n2Tg0AAABJ_ceEo5gs9IAowIHOXz9E
With that information and some timestamps, the local police authorities
can ask AOL to supply who was using that IP at the exact time you posted
with it.
From there, it's simple police work to haul your butt into court and
get a conviction.
Be afraid...be very very afraid. Boy did you goof-up.
If it was your mommy or daddy's computer, I can assure you they will not
be amused when someone shows up to seize it as evidence. Oh, and unless
you know how to scrub, and I do mean scrub your harddrive, the post you
made will be available for even a semi-skilled investigator to easily
find, even after you delete it.
A sincere apology would be a good start out of this mess you got
yourself into, maybe.
about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon. I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27 years
later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

jwolf

User: "rogue"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 04:18:11 PM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27

years

later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

jwolf

JERRY
Nope, sorry, out of line. The person who did this is no better than
Jason for posting the Farrell Till "gay urges" post.
.

User: "Tom McDonald"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:51:03 PM

rogue wrote:

Jason Gastrich wrote:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27

years

later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

jwolf

JERRY
Nope, sorry, out of line. The person who did this is no better than
Jason for posting the Farrell Till "gay urges" post.

What this fellow has done is worse than Jason's fake 'gay urges'
post. Jason did a stupid and vindictive thing to a grownup; and
it is highly unlikely that anyone bought it for long.
This ***** brought an innocent kid into the mix, and made
accusations that, in today's environment, might result in an
investigation by social services or even law enforcement. Because
it is now enshrined forever on usenet, the post might be used in
the future to support another allegation. While it is highly
unlikely, I've seen things not too dissimilar happen.
OTOH, the absolutely universal disgust, from theists, atheists
and folks in between, does suggest a common moral compass that is
not dependent upon sectarian belief. That is useful.
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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User: "iceman"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 09:27:26 AM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27

years

later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

jwolf

Ugh. You are no longer "fun."
One day they will come for you . . . with nets and a barrage of
tranquilizer darts.
Christian
(insert standard disclaimer: just my name . . . blah blah blah . . .
not my religion . . . blah blah blah)
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User: "Ultra Maroon"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	28 Apr 2005 12:45:12 PM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

I'm

afraid that Jason has been abusing him like I was abused as a child!
Man I was put in diapers 24 hours a day and have not left them 27

years

later. I dont want Jordon to end up like me. I hope Jason is not
asbusing Jordon. if he is jasojn needs to be oput behidn bars.

jwolf

Woe, dude! Not cool! Then again, it's just a reminder that, as
odiferous as he is, Gasbag ain't always the most obnoxious turd in the
loo.
.

User: "Marvin"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	29 Apr 2005 10:55:22 PM

RE: "I am really worried..."
A cowardly and despicable post.
Marvin Sebourn
osugeography@aol.com
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User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 09:02:44 AM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

Who ever you are, this is just plain wrong, and sick.
Jason, while a religious twit, and arrogant fundy, does not deserve this
kind of treatment and slander. I would not even wish this kind of
action and Kenneth Pangborn, and he's even more slimy then Jason.
To accuse someone of child abuse, is to start a witch hunt. Child abuse
charges in this country, need no warrant, no evidence, and you are
assumed guilty till proved innocent. There is no pain that you can
inflict on someone greater then the investigation a person would go
through because of a false accusation. And you don't even have to give
your name, which just raises the cowardice bar even further.
Knock it off *****. This kind of posting is sick. Don't accuse
people of things you have no evidence for.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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User: "James"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 08:50:51 PM

Jason Gastrich wrote:

That isn't funny and it isn't called for. You don't bring people's kids
into squabbles or you're apt to end up gaptoothed.
--
James B, master of the tri-pronged scrotal mount
aa #944
"All that belongs to human understanding, in this
deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical,
or at least cautious; and not to admit of any
hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which
is supported by no appearance of probability."
-David Hume
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User: ""
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 10:18:24 PM

On 27 Apr 2005 00:11:50 -0700, "Jason Gastrich"
<jasongastrich1@aol.com> wrote:

I am really worried about my former bed buddy Jason's son Jordon.

<snip>
My first inclination was to just ignore such an obvious troll but this
was just seriously over the line. There are some things that you just
don't joke about or make baseless accusations about...this would be
one of those things.
We may have issues with a lot of what Jason says and does based on our
experiences with him, but I've not seen anything that would lead me to
believe that he could harm his child.
My rant has now concluded.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
.

User: "towelie"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 03:59:50 AM

TV's Jason Gastrich wrote:

Jason is sometimes annoying and somewhat dishonest at times, but he's not a
child abuser. Whoever is spoofing him is guilty of libel.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 04:47:47 AM

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J4ednYPnAJgZyfLfRVn-sg@centurytel.net...

TV's Jason Gastrich wrote:

Jason is sometimes annoying and somewhat dishonest at times, but he's not
a child abuser. Whoever is spoofing him is guilty of libel.

Indeed. I certainly loathe Jason, but posting things like this is just
wrong. Years ago, I got the law involved because a poster was claiming that
I was sexually abusing my daughter and was sending him pictures of her
naked. Boy, did he shut up fast. Nothing like the real threat of criminal
prosecution to quiet a rabid individual.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
.

User: "towelie"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 05:30:03 AM

TV's Robibnikoff wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J4ednYPnAJgZyfLfRVn-sg@centurytel.net...

TV's Jason Gastrich wrote:

Jason is sometimes annoying and somewhat dishonest at times, but he's not
a child abuser. Whoever is spoofing him is guilty of libel.

Indeed. I certainly loathe Jason, but posting things like this is just
wrong. Years ago, I got the law involved because a poster was claiming
that
I was sexually abusing my daughter and was sending him pictures of her
naked. Boy, did he shut up fast. Nothing like the real threat of
criminal
prosecution to quiet a rabid individual.

Unless there's proof to the contrary...See how the burden of proof works?
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: Is baby Jordon Gastrich free from Child abuse?	27 Apr 2005 06:07:56 AM

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9rqdnUAZyoww9PLfRVn-pQ@centurytel.net...

TV's Robibnikoff wrote:

"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J4ednYPnAJgZyfLfRVn-sg@centurytel.net...

TV's Jason Gastrich wrote:

Jason is sometimes annoying and somewhat dishonest at times, but he's
not
a child abuser. Whoever is spoofing him is guilty of libel.

Indeed. I certainly loathe Jason, but posting things like this is just
wrong. Years ago, I got the law involved because a poster was claiming
that
I was sexually abusing my daughter and was sending him pictures of her
naked. Boy, did he shut up fast. Nothing like the real threat of
criminal
prosecution to quiet a rabid individual.

Unless there's proof to the contrary...See how the burden of proof works?

Indeed. The individual claimed to have emails from me containing naked
pictures of my kid. Funny how he couldn't come up with them. So much for
his "proof".
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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