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User: "Bible Bob"
Date: 27 Feb 2005 11:02:20 PM
Object: Is God A Man That He Shoul Lie?
God is not a man that he should lie. It is impossible for God to lie.
God cannot lie.
Numbers 23:19
God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that
he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to
lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to
lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before
the world began;
If God cannot lie then why do men say that God lies? Because men lie.
God is not a man that he should lie and God is not the son of man that
he should repent. The same verse that says that God does not lie says
that God is not the son of man; yet people say that God is the son of
man. Why? Because men are basically idolators that will worship just
about anything. Men lust to worship false gods whether it be stone
idols, people idols, animal idols, sex idols, etc. It doesn't matter
what the object of lust is, if man can figure out a way to worship an
object he will do it.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and
also to the Greek.
Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Romans 1:19
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed [it] unto them.
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his
eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
You should be able to see the sequence of events that led to men
professing themselves to be wise and becoming fools. When they became
fools they began building man made religions and religious doctrines
that changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to a corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, an
creeping things.
Romans 1:23
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
Men professing themselves to be wise became fools and invented a
religion called trinitarianism and a religious doctrine that elevated
a man to a position equal to God. In fact, by manipulating scriptures
they were able to change the man into their God. So God gave them up
to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts and they
dishonored their bodies between themselves.
Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
The trinitarian religion separated men and women into groups and
within those groups men dishonored their bodies with other men and
women dishonored their bodies with other women. They worshipped the
creation more than the Creator. They began worshipping His Son and
then began worshipping the flesh of others.
Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
convenient;
They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, they chose to
retain idolatry in their minds and God gave them over to a reprobate
mind and they began to do those things that are not convenient.
Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.
I suspect that those of you who have become enslaved to the doctrine
of the trinity are screaming, yelling, and puling your hair out. You
probably skimmed through verses 24-32 after reading what I wrote
following verse 23 and missed a whole bunch of stuff. That would be
understandable because people get upset when they discover they have
been lied to by people they trusted all their lives. People get upset
when their belief system is challenged. And are you angry at those
who lied to you? No you are angry with me for showing you that you
have been tricked and betrayed.
Hey, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write the book. My job is to
call people from darkness to light. If you like living in the dark
and worshipping false gods, go ahead. On the other hand if you are
willing to get honest with God, you can forsake the darkness and
recieve all of the benefits of God.
That was spoken to the relgious types. But most Christians are not
zealous sold out robots for their denominations. Most Christians do
not understand why so much fuss is made about a trinity. They are
happy just loving God and receiving the benefits of God's love toward
them. In fact, if you are not paid by a denomination, you probably
don't really care one way or the other. But if you get paid and your
denomination will fire you if you do not believe what they tell you to
believe, you care and may have spent a lot of time studying what your
denomination told you to study.
If you are one of those men and women who have spent most of their
adult life single because their denomination required them to take an
oath of celebacy, then you may be upset. And you may be upset if your
religious training drove you to molesting children or seeking sexual
favor from members of the same sex. Or, trained you to lie, and
steal, and do other things that you know in your heart are contrary to
the Word of God.
Go ahead and kill file me; but kill filing me will not relieve you of
the guilt and it will not bring you into alignment and harmony with
God's will.
Is there a way out of the mess that you have allowed yourself to get
into? Yes. Jesus Christ is a complete savior and God's grace can
deliver you out of the messes you find yourself in. But you got to do
it God's way; not your way.
Why is it that people today do not manifest the power of God in their
lives? Because they do not understand and do the Word of God.
I can't share with you all that you need to know in one post. I don't
know it all either; but we can learn what we need to know from the
Word. If you are willing to forsake the wrong doctrine that you have
been taught and seek truth from God's Word; He can teach you what you
need to know.
What I can do is give you a a few pieces of information that will make
it much more easier to understand thousands of passages in the Bible.
The word of God is truth. Forget about the errors in translation and
corrupted texts because there are simple ways around those problems.
It is not the quantity of the Word that you know it is the quality of
the Word that you know that counts. Be honest, a lot of the stuff in
the Old Testament does not interest you. Right? Or; maybe it's the
some stuff in the Gospels, or Revelation, or Jude. Why? Well for one
reason is because God supplies needs and works with each of us based
upon our individual needs. Thus, some people get excited reading the
Old Testament and others get excited reading the Church Epistles -
because they have different needs. Some people like Matthew better
than John and some people like John better than Matthew because one
book fits their needs better than the other.
You have to read what the Word of God says in context. Words in the
word mean something and that something is determined by the context in
which they are used. The words in the Word of God are either literal
or figurative. Some will deny that the word of God is figurative in
any way, but will also say "Jesus said in the parable." A parable is
a figure of speech, as is a metaphor, simile, allegory, oxymoron,
proverb, etc. In fact there are over two hundred different figures of
speech used in the Bible that affect over one third of the passages in
the Bible.
My research of figures over the years led me to put together a
database containing every verse from the Bible and the figures that I
have found that applied to the passages. I have found about 17,000
usages in about 11,000 of the about 31,000 passages in the Bible. The
11,000 of 31,000 is where I get my one third statement from. But
right now we need to concern ourselves with only one figure of speech
that will help you to better understand thousands of passages.
A figure of speech is God's way of putting a word or words in bold
type. Figures of speech are used solely for the sake of emphasis.
They affect the form in which words are used. They affect the Hebrew
or Greek and may not be (but usually are) visible in the English
versions. You are familiar with a metaphor such as when Jesus said "I
am the vine." Jesus is not a vine so we know that the word "vine" is
not literally true to fact; but it is truer to truth because the
"vine" carries nutrition from the root to the branches (us). As the
vine, Jesus is our connection to God.
The figure Anthropopatheia ascribes to God (1) what belongs to human
and rational beings, (2) what belongs to irrational creatures, and (3)
what belongs to inanimate things. God is not a white haired old man
sitting on a gold throne behind pearly gates gaurded by Peter. God is
spirit and has no human body parts, no body parts of animals, and is
not made up of the elements in time and space. Thus, whenever and
wherever you see human attributes ascribed to God it is always the
figure Anthropopatheia. When you see "And God said" or "And God saw"
it is the figure Anthropopatheia because God does not possess the
organs of speech or eyes as we do. When it speaks of God repenting,
the wrath of God or jealousy' it is the figure Anthropopatheia because
God does not have feelings or emotions that people have. The same
goes for the bowels, hand, arm, mouth, or feet of God. No human body
parts means no human body part actions.
In Genesis 1:2 it says the spirit of god moved on the faces of the
waters. The word moved is translated from a Hebrew word that means to
brood or hover as a chicken hovers over its nest. God is not a
chicken and does not act like a chicken, but the passage tells us that
downward supernatural invisible spiritual pressure was applied to the
surface of the earth. The cause was the spirit moved and the effect
was that change came to be on the earth - cause and effect.
The Bible says that God is light, but light is electromagnetic energy
composed of what God created. Therefore it can not be true. Spirit
is antecedent to light but light is not antecedent to spirit. This is
the third form of Anthropopatheaia.
What is God? God is spirit. God is holy. God is love. Those three
supernatural invisible things are what God is. What about the Word?
When used of God it is the figure Anthropopatheia because it ascribes
to God what belongs to man. What is your word? It is that which
comes from within you. You think something and decide to express it.
You inhale, and exhale while moving your speech organs and what comes
out is you word which represents your will. God does not have body
parts to do all that with. When used of God "Word" speaks of the
internal spiritual will of God that has been released into the senses
world.
For more information look up the figure Anthropopatheia in E W
Bullinger's, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. I will post a copy
of it as an attachment to this post.
.

User: "P.T."

Title: Re: Is God A Man That He Shoul Lie? 07 Mar 2005 06:07:26 PM
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:df95215veudlog6mi0tp3hb0kut70t3vgm@4ax.com...

God is not a man that he should lie.

He is also not a man!
It is impossible for God to lie.

God cannot lie.

Numbers 23:19
God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that
he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to
lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to
lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before
the world began;

If God cannot lie then why do men say that God lies? Because men lie.

God is not a man that he should lie and God is not the son of man that
he should repent. The same verse that says that God does not lie says
that God is not the son of man; yet people say that God is the son of
man. Why? Because men are basically idolators that will worship just
about anything. Men lust to worship false gods whether it be stone
idols, people idols, animal idols, sex idols, etc. It doesn't matter
what the object of lust is, if man can figure out a way to worship an
object he will do it.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and
also to the Greek.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Romans 1:19
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed [it] unto them.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his
eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

You should be able to see the sequence of events that led to men
professing themselves to be wise and becoming fools. When they became
fools they began building man made religions and religious doctrines
that changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to a corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, an
creeping things.

Romans 1:23
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

Men professing themselves to be wise became fools and invented a
religion called trinitarianism and a religious doctrine that elevated
a man to a position equal to God. In fact, by manipulating scriptures
they were able to change the man into their God. So God gave them up
to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts and they
dishonored their bodies between themselves.

Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

The trinitarian religion separated men and women into groups and
within those groups men dishonored their bodies with other men and
women dishonored their bodies with other women. They worshipped the
creation more than the Creator. They began worshipping His Son and
then began worshipping the flesh of others.

Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
convenient;

They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, they chose to
retain idolatry in their minds and God gave them over to a reprobate
mind and they began to do those things that are not convenient.

Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,

Romans 1:30
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
evil things, disobedient to parents,

Romans 1:31
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.

I suspect that those of you who have become enslaved to the doctrine
of the trinity are screaming, yelling, and puling your hair out. You
probably skimmed through verses 24-32 after reading what I wrote
following verse 23 and missed a whole bunch of stuff. That would be
understandable because people get upset when they discover they have
been lied to by people they trusted all their lives. People get upset
when their belief system is challenged. And are you angry at those
who lied to you? No you are angry with me for showing you that you
have been tricked and betrayed.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write the book. My job is to
call people from darkness to light. If you like living in the dark
and worshipping false gods, go ahead. On the other hand if you are
willing to get honest with God, you can forsake the darkness and
recieve all of the benefits of God.

That was spoken to the relgious types. But most Christians are not
zealous sold out robots for their denominations. Most Christians do
not understand why so much fuss is made about a trinity. They are
happy just loving God and receiving the benefits of God's love toward
them. In fact, if you are not paid by a denomination, you probably
don't really care one way or the other. But if you get paid and your
denomination will fire you if you do not believe what they tell you to
believe, you care and may have spent a lot of time studying what your
denomination told you to study.

If you are one of those men and women who have spent most of their
adult life single because their denomination required them to take an
oath of celebacy, then you may be upset. And you may be upset if your
religious training drove you to molesting children or seeking sexual
favor from members of the same sex. Or, trained you to lie, and
steal, and do other things that you know in your heart are contrary to
the Word of God.

Go ahead and kill file me; but kill filing me will not relieve you of
the guilt and it will not bring you into alignment and harmony with
God's will.

Is there a way out of the mess that you have allowed yourself to get
into? Yes. Jesus Christ is a complete savior and God's grace can
deliver you out of the messes you find yourself in. But you got to do
it God's way; not your way.

Why is it that people today do not manifest the power of God in their
lives? Because they do not understand and do the Word of God.

I can't share with you all that you need to know in one post. I don't
know it all either; but we can learn what we need to know from the
Word. If you are willing to forsake the wrong doctrine that you have
been taught and seek truth from God's Word; He can teach you what you
need to know.

What I can do is give you a a few pieces of information that will make
it much more easier to understand thousands of passages in the Bible.

The word of God is truth. Forget about the errors in translation and
corrupted texts because there are simple ways around those problems.
It is not the quantity of the Word that you know it is the quality of
the Word that you know that counts. Be honest, a lot of the stuff in
the Old Testament does not interest you. Right? Or; maybe it's the
some stuff in the Gospels, or Revelation, or Jude. Why? Well for one
reason is because God supplies needs and works with each of us based
upon our individual needs. Thus, some people get excited reading the
Old Testament and others get excited reading the Church Epistles -
because they have different needs. Some people like Matthew better
than John and some people like John better than Matthew because one
book fits their needs better than the other.

You have to read what the Word of God says in context. Words in the
word mean something and that something is determined by the context in
which they are used. The words in the Word of God are either literal
or figurative. Some will deny that the word of God is figurative in
any way, but will also say "Jesus said in the parable." A parable is
a figure of speech, as is a metaphor, simile, allegory, oxymoron,
proverb, etc. In fact there are over two hundred different figures of
speech used in the Bible that affect over one third of the passages in
the Bible.

My research of figures over the years led me to put together a
database containing every verse from the Bible and the figures that I
have found that applied to the passages. I have found about 17,000
usages in about 11,000 of the about 31,000 passages in the Bible. The
11,000 of 31,000 is where I get my one third statement from. But
right now we need to concern ourselves with only one figure of speech
that will help you to better understand thousands of passages.

A figure of speech is God's way of putting a word or words in bold
type. Figures of speech are used solely for the sake of emphasis.
They affect the form in which words are used. They affect the Hebrew
or Greek and may not be (but usually are) visible in the English
versions. You are familiar with a metaphor such as when Jesus said "I
am the vine." Jesus is not a vine so we know that the word "vine" is
not literally true to fact; but it is truer to truth because the
"vine" carries nutrition from the root to the branches (us). As the
vine, Jesus is our connection to God.

The figure Anthropopatheia ascribes to God (1) what belongs to human
and rational beings, (2) what belongs to irrational creatures, and (3)
what belongs to inanimate things. God is not a white haired old man
sitting on a gold throne behind pearly gates gaurded by Peter. God is
spirit and has no human body parts, no body parts of animals, and is
not made up of the elements in time and space. Thus, whenever and
wherever you see human attributes ascribed to God it is always the
figure Anthropopatheia. When you see "And God said" or "And God saw"
it is the figure Anthropopatheia because God does not possess the
organs of speech or eyes as we do. When it speaks of God repenting,
the wrath of God or jealousy' it is the figure Anthropopatheia because
God does not have feelings or emotions that people have. The same
goes for the bowels, hand, arm, mouth, or feet of God. No human body
parts means no human body part actions.

In Genesis 1:2 it says the spirit of god moved on the faces of the
waters. The word moved is translated from a Hebrew word that means to
brood or hover as a chicken hovers over its nest. God is not a
chicken and does not act like a chicken, but the passage tells us that
downward supernatural invisible spiritual pressure was applied to the
surface of the earth. The cause was the spirit moved and the effect
was that change came to be on the earth - cause and effect.

The Bible says that God is light, but light is electromagnetic energy
composed of what God created. Therefore it can not be true. Spirit
is antecedent to light but light is not antecedent to spirit. This is
the third form of Anthropopatheaia.

What is God? God is spirit. God is holy. God is love. Those three
supernatural invisible things are what God is. What about the Word?
When used of God it is the figure Anthropopatheia because it ascribes
to God what belongs to man. What is your word? It is that which
comes from within you. You think something and decide to express it.
You inhale, and exhale while moving your speech organs and what comes
out is you word which represents your will. God does not have body
parts to do all that with. When used of God "Word" speaks of the
internal spiritual will of God that has been released into the senses
world.

For more information look up the figure Anthropopatheia in E W
Bullinger's, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. I will post a copy
of it as an attachment to this post.

.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Is God A Man That He Shoul Lie? 07 Mar 2005 07:11:54 PM
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:07:26 GMT, "P.T." <pt@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:df95215veudlog6mi0tp3hb0kut70t3vgm@4ax.com...

God is not a man that he should lie.


He is also not a man!

True
BB


It is impossible for God to lie.

God cannot lie.

Numbers 23:19
God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that
he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to
lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to
lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before
the world began;

If God cannot lie then why do men say that God lies? Because men lie.

God is not a man that he should lie and God is not the son of man that
he should repent. The same verse that says that God does not lie says
that God is not the son of man; yet people say that God is the son of
man. Why? Because men are basically idolators that will worship just
about anything. Men lust to worship false gods whether it be stone
idols, people idols, animal idols, sex idols, etc. It doesn't matter
what the object of lust is, if man can figure out a way to worship an
object he will do it.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and
also to the Greek.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Romans 1:19
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed [it] unto them.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his
eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

You should be able to see the sequence of events that led to men
professing themselves to be wise and becoming fools. When they became
fools they began building man made religions and religious doctrines
that changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to a corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, an
creeping things.

Romans 1:23
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

Men professing themselves to be wise became fools and invented a
religion called trinitarianism and a religious doctrine that elevated
a man to a position equal to God. In fact, by manipulating scriptures
they were able to change the man into their God. So God gave them up
to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts and they
dishonored their bodies between themselves.

Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

The trinitarian religion separated men and women into groups and
within those groups men dishonored their bodies with other men and
women dishonored their bodies with other women. They worshipped the
creation more than the Creator. They began worshipping His Son and
then began worshipping the flesh of others.

Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
convenient;

They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, they chose to
retain idolatry in their minds and God gave them over to a reprobate
mind and they began to do those things that are not convenient.

Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,

Romans 1:30
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
evil things, disobedient to parents,

Romans 1:31
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.

I suspect that those of you who have become enslaved to the doctrine
of the trinity are screaming, yelling, and puling your hair out. You
probably skimmed through verses 24-32 after reading what I wrote
following verse 23 and missed a whole bunch of stuff. That would be
understandable because people get upset when they discover they have
been lied to by people they trusted all their lives. People get upset
when their belief system is challenged. And are you angry at those
who lied to you? No you are angry with me for showing you that you
have been tricked and betrayed.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write the book. My job is to
call people from darkness to light. If you like living in the dark
and worshipping false gods, go ahead. On the other hand if you are
willing to get honest with God, you can forsake the darkness and
recieve all of the benefits of God.

That was spoken to the relgious types. But most Christians are not
zealous sold out robots for their denominations. Most Christians do
not understand why so much fuss is made about a trinity. They are
happy just loving God and receiving the benefits of God's love toward
them. In fact, if you are not paid by a denomination, you probably
don't really care one way or the other. But if you get paid and your
denomination will fire you if you do not believe what they tell you to
believe, you care and may have spent a lot of time studying what your
denomination told you to study.

If you are one of those men and women who have spent most of their
adult life single because their denomination required them to take an
oath of celebacy, then you may be upset. And you may be upset if your
religious training drove you to molesting children or seeking sexual
favor from members of the same sex. Or, trained you to lie, and
steal, and do other things that you know in your heart are contrary to
the Word of God.

Go ahead and kill file me; but kill filing me will not relieve you of
the guilt and it will not bring you into alignment and harmony with
God's will.

Is there a way out of the mess that you have allowed yourself to get
into? Yes. Jesus Christ is a complete savior and God's grace can
deliver you out of the messes you find yourself in. But you got to do
it God's way; not your way.

Why is it that people today do not manifest the power of God in their
lives? Because they do not understand and do the Word of God.

I can't share with you all that you need to know in one post. I don't
know it all either; but we can learn what we need to know from the
Word. If you are willing to forsake the wrong doctrine that you have
been taught and seek truth from God's Word; He can teach you what you
need to know.

What I can do is give you a a few pieces of information that will make
it much more easier to understand thousands of passages in the Bible.

The word of God is truth. Forget about the errors in translation and
corrupted texts because there are simple ways around those problems.
It is not the quantity of the Word that you know it is the quality of
the Word that you know that counts. Be honest, a lot of the stuff in
the Old Testament does not interest you. Right? Or; maybe it's the
some stuff in the Gospels, or Revelation, or Jude. Why? Well for one
reason is because God supplies needs and works with each of us based
upon our individual needs. Thus, some people get excited reading the
Old Testament and others get excited reading the Church Epistles -
because they have different needs. Some people like Matthew better
than John and some people like John better than Matthew because one
book fits their needs better than the other.

You have to read what the Word of God says in context. Words in the
word mean something and that something is determined by the context in
which they are used. The words in the Word of God are either literal
or figurative. Some will deny that the word of God is figurative in
any way, but will also say "Jesus said in the parable." A parable is
a figure of speech, as is a metaphor, simile, allegory, oxymoron,
proverb, etc. In fact there are over two hundred different figures of
speech used in the Bible that affect over one third of the passages in
the Bible.

My research of figures over the years led me to put together a
database containing every verse from the Bible and the figures that I
have found that applied to the passages. I have found about 17,000
usages in about 11,000 of the about 31,000 passages in the Bible. The
11,000 of 31,000 is where I get my one third statement from. But
right now we need to concern ourselves with only one figure of speech
that will help you to better understand thousands of passages.

A figure of speech is God's way of putting a word or words in bold
type. Figures of speech are used solely for the sake of emphasis.
They affect the form in which words are used. They affect the Hebrew
or Greek and may not be (but usually are) visible in the English
versions. You are familiar with a metaphor such as when Jesus said "I
am the vine." Jesus is not a vine so we know that the word "vine" is
not literally true to fact; but it is truer to truth because the
"vine" carries nutrition from the root to the branches (us). As the
vine, Jesus is our connection to God.

The figure Anthropopatheia ascribes to God (1) what belongs to human
and rational beings, (2) what belongs to irrational creatures, and (3)
what belongs to inanimate things. God is not a white haired old man
sitting on a gold throne behind pearly gates gaurded by Peter. God is
spirit and has no human body parts, no body parts of animals, and is
not made up of the elements in time and space. Thus, whenever and
wherever you see human attributes ascribed to God it is always the
figure Anthropopatheia. When you see "And God said" or "And God saw"
it is the figure Anthropopatheia because God does not possess the
organs of speech or eyes as we do. When it speaks of God repenting,
the wrath of God or jealousy' it is the figure Anthropopatheia because
God does not have feelings or emotions that people have. The same
goes for the bowels, hand, arm, mouth, or feet of God. No human body
parts means no human body part actions.

In Genesis 1:2 it says the spirit of god moved on the faces of the
waters. The word moved is translated from a Hebrew word that means to
brood or hover as a chicken hovers over its nest. God is not a
chicken and does not act like a chicken, but the passage tells us that
downward supernatural invisible spiritual pressure was applied to the
surface of the earth. The cause was the spirit moved and the effect
was that change came to be on the earth - cause and effect.

The Bible says that God is light, but light is electromagnetic energy
composed of what God created. Therefore it can not be true. Spirit
is antecedent to light but light is not antecedent to spirit. This is
the third form of Anthropopatheaia.

What is God? God is spirit. God is holy. God is love. Those three
supernatural invisible things are what God is. What about the Word?
When used of God it is the figure Anthropopatheia because it ascribes
to God what belongs to man. What is your word? It is that which
comes from within you. You think something and decide to express it.
You inhale, and exhale while moving your speech organs and what comes
out is you word which represents your will. God does not have body
parts to do all that with. When used of God "Word" speaks of the
internal spiritual will of God that has been released into the senses
world.

For more information look up the figure Anthropopatheia in E W
Bullinger's, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. I will post a copy
of it as an attachment to this post.


.


User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Is God A Man That He Shoul Lie? 27 Feb 2005 11:24:38 PM
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:02:20 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
Heads-up. At the end I mention a book by E W Bullinger, Figures of
Speech Used in the Bible. The upload did not work. You can view the
file at www.biblebob.net .

God is not a man that he should lie. It is impossible for God to lie.
God cannot lie.

Numbers 23:19
God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that
he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to
lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to
lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before
the world began;

If God cannot lie then why do men say that God lies? Because men lie.

God is not a man that he should lie and God is not the son of man that
he should repent. The same verse that says that God does not lie says
that God is not the son of man; yet people say that God is the son of
man. Why? Because men are basically idolators that will worship just
about anything. Men lust to worship false gods whether it be stone
idols, people idols, animal idols, sex idols, etc. It doesn't matter
what the object of lust is, if man can figure out a way to worship an
object he will do it.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and
also to the Greek.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Romans 1:19
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed [it] unto them.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his
eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

You should be able to see the sequence of events that led to men
professing themselves to be wise and becoming fools. When they became
fools they began building man made religions and religious doctrines
that changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to a corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, an
creeping things.

Romans 1:23
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

Men professing themselves to be wise became fools and invented a
religion called trinitarianism and a religious doctrine that elevated
a man to a position equal to God. In fact, by manipulating scriptures
they were able to change the man into their God. So God gave them up
to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts and they
dishonored their bodies between themselves.

Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

The trinitarian religion separated men and women into groups and
within those groups men dishonored their bodies with other men and
women dishonored their bodies with other women. They worshipped the
creation more than the Creator. They began worshipping His Son and
then began worshipping the flesh of others.

Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
convenient;

They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, they chose to
retain idolatry in their minds and God gave them over to a reprobate
mind and they began to do those things that are not convenient.

Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,

Romans 1:30
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
evil things, disobedient to parents,

Romans 1:31
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.

I suspect that those of you who have become enslaved to the doctrine
of the trinity are screaming, yelling, and puling your hair out. You
probably skimmed through verses 24-32 after reading what I wrote
following verse 23 and missed a whole bunch of stuff. That would be
understandable because people get upset when they discover they have
been lied to by people they trusted all their lives. People get upset
when their belief system is challenged. And are you angry at those
who lied to you? No you are angry with me for showing you that you
have been tricked and betrayed.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write the book. My job is to
call people from darkness to light. If you like living in the dark
and worshipping false gods, go ahead. On the other hand if you are
willing to get honest with God, you can forsake the darkness and
recieve all of the benefits of God.

That was spoken to the relgious types. But most Christians are not
zealous sold out robots for their denominations. Most Christians do
not understand why so much fuss is made about a trinity. They are
happy just loving God and receiving the benefits of God's love toward
them. In fact, if you are not paid by a denomination, you probably
don't really care one way or the other. But if you get paid and your
denomination will fire you if you do not believe what they tell you to
believe, you care and may have spent a lot of time studying what your
denomination told you to study.

If you are one of those men and women who have spent most of their
adult life single because their denomination required them to take an
oath of celebacy, then you may be upset. And you may be upset if your
religious training drove you to molesting children or seeking sexual
favor from members of the same sex. Or, trained you to lie, and
steal, and do other things that you know in your heart are contrary to
the Word of God.

Go ahead and kill file me; but kill filing me will not relieve you of
the guilt and it will not bring you into alignment and harmony with
God's will.

Is there a way out of the mess that you have allowed yourself to get
into? Yes. Jesus Christ is a complete savior and God's grace can
deliver you out of the messes you find yourself in. But you got to do
it God's way; not your way.

Why is it that people today do not manifest the power of God in their
lives? Because they do not understand and do the Word of God.

I can't share with you all that you need to know in one post. I don't
know it all either; but we can learn what we need to know from the
Word. If you are willing to forsake the wrong doctrine that you have
been taught and seek truth from God's Word; He can teach you what you
need to know.

What I can do is give you a a few pieces of information that will make
it much more easier to understand thousands of passages in the Bible.

The word of God is truth. Forget about the errors in translation and
corrupted texts because there are simple ways around those problems.
It is not the quantity of the Word that you know it is the quality of
the Word that you know that counts. Be honest, a lot of the stuff in
the Old Testament does not interest you. Right? Or; maybe it's the
some stuff in the Gospels, or Revelation, or Jude. Why? Well for one
reason is because God supplies needs and works with each of us based
upon our individual needs. Thus, some people get excited reading the
Old Testament and others get excited reading the Church Epistles -
because they have different needs. Some people like Matthew better
than John and some people like John better than Matthew because one
book fits their needs better than the other.

You have to read what the Word of God says in context. Words in the
word mean something and that something is determined by the context in
which they are used. The words in the Word of God are either literal
or figurative. Some will deny that the word of God is figurative in
any way, but will also say "Jesus said in the parable." A parable is
a figure of speech, as is a metaphor, simile, allegory, oxymoron,
proverb, etc. In fact there are over two hundred different figures of
speech used in the Bible that affect over one third of the passages in
the Bible.

My research of figures over the years led me to put together a
database containing every verse from the Bible and the figures that I
have found that applied to the passages. I have found about 17,000
usages in about 11,000 of the about 31,000 passages in the Bible. The
11,000 of 31,000 is where I get my one third statement from. But
right now we need to concern ourselves with only one figure of speech
that will help you to better understand thousands of passages.

A figure of speech is God's way of putting a word or words in bold
type. Figures of speech are used solely for the sake of emphasis.
They affect the form in which words are used. They affect the Hebrew
or Greek and may not be (but usually are) visible in the English
versions. You are familiar with a metaphor such as when Jesus said "I
am the vine." Jesus is not a vine so we know that the word "vine" is
not literally true to fact; but it is truer to truth because the
"vine" carries nutrition from the root to the branches (us). As the
vine, Jesus is our connection to God.

The figure Anthropopatheia ascribes to God (1) what belongs to human
and rational beings, (2) what belongs to irrational creatures, and (3)
what belongs to inanimate things. God is not a white haired old man
sitting on a gold throne behind pearly gates gaurded by Peter. God is
spirit and has no human body parts, no body parts of animals, and is
not made up of the elements in time and space. Thus, whenever and
wherever you see human attributes ascribed to God it is always the
figure Anthropopatheia. When you see "And God said" or "And God saw"
it is the figure Anthropopatheia because God does not possess the
organs of speech or eyes as we do. When it speaks of God repenting,
the wrath of God or jealousy' it is the figure Anthropopatheia because
God does not have feelings or emotions that people have. The same
goes for the bowels, hand, arm, mouth, or feet of God. No human body
parts means no human body part actions.

In Genesis 1:2 it says the spirit of god moved on the faces of the
waters. The word moved is translated from a Hebrew word that means to
brood or hover as a chicken hovers over its nest. God is not a
chicken and does not act like a chicken, but the passage tells us that
downward supernatural invisible spiritual pressure was applied to the
surface of the earth. The cause was the spirit moved and the effect
was that change came to be on the earth - cause and effect.

The Bible says that God is light, but light is electromagnetic energy
composed of what God created. Therefore it can not be true. Spirit
is antecedent to light but light is not antecedent to spirit. This is
the third form of Anthropopatheaia.

What is God? God is spirit. God is holy. God is love. Those three
supernatural invisible things are what God is. What about the Word?
When used of God it is the figure Anthropopatheia because it ascribes
to God what belongs to man. What is your word? It is that which
comes from within you. You think something and decide to express it.
You inhale, and exhale while moving your speech organs and what comes
out is you word which represents your will. God does not have body
parts to do all that with. When used of God "Word" speaks of the
internal spiritual will of God that has been released into the senses
world.

For more information look up the figure Anthropopatheia in E W
Bullinger's, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. I will post a copy
of it as an attachment to this post.

.

User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Is God A Man That He Shoul Lie? 06 Mar 2005 08:56:11 PM
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:02:20 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:

God is not a man that he should lie. It is impossible for God to lie.
God cannot lie.

God is a lying scumbag. God cannot tell the truth.


Numbers 23:19
God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that
he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he
spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Hebrews 6:18
That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to
lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to
lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Titus 1:2
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before
the world began;

If God cannot lie then why do men say that God lies? Because men lie.

God is not a man that he should lie and God is not the son of man that
he should repent. The same verse that says that God does not lie says
that God is not the son of man; yet people say that God is the son of
man. Why? Because men are basically idolators that will worship just
about anything. Men lust to worship false gods whether it be stone
idols, people idols, animal idols, sex idols, etc. It doesn't matter
what the object of lust is, if man can figure out a way to worship an
object he will do it.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and
also to the Greek.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Romans 1:19
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God
hath shewed [it] unto them.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his
eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

You should be able to see the sequence of events that led to men
professing themselves to be wise and becoming fools. When they became
fools they began building man made religions and religious doctrines
that changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to a corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, an
creeping things.

Romans 1:23
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

Men professing themselves to be wise became fools and invented a
religion called trinitarianism and a religious doctrine that elevated
a man to a position equal to God. In fact, by manipulating scriptures
they were able to change the man into their God. So God gave them up
to uncleaness through the lusts of their own hearts and they
dishonored their bodies between themselves.

Romans 1:24
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:26
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

The trinitarian religion separated men and women into groups and
within those groups men dishonored their bodies with other men and
women dishonored their bodies with other women. They worshipped the
creation more than the Creator. They began worshipping His Son and
then began worshipping the flesh of others.

Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God
gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
convenient;

They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, they chose to
retain idolatry in their minds and God gave them over to a reprobate
mind and they began to do those things that are not convenient.

Romans 1:29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,

Romans 1:30
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
evil things, disobedient to parents,

Romans 1:31
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.

I suspect that those of you who have become enslaved to the doctrine
of the trinity are screaming, yelling, and puling your hair out. You
probably skimmed through verses 24-32 after reading what I wrote
following verse 23 and missed a whole bunch of stuff. That would be
understandable because people get upset when they discover they have
been lied to by people they trusted all their lives. People get upset
when their belief system is challenged. And are you angry at those
who lied to you? No you are angry with me for showing you that you
have been tricked and betrayed.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write the book. My job is to
call people from darkness to light. If you like living in the dark
and worshipping false gods, go ahead. On the other hand if you are
willing to get honest with God, you can forsake the darkness and
recieve all of the benefits of God.

That was spoken to the relgious types. But most Christians are not
zealous sold out robots for their denominations. Most Christians do
not understand why so much fuss is made about a trinity. They are
happy just loving God and receiving the benefits of God's love toward
them. In fact, if you are not paid by a denomination, you probably
don't really care one way or the other. But if you get paid and your
denomination will fire you if you do not believe what they tell you to
believe, you care and may have spent a lot of time studying what your
denomination told you to study.

If you are one of those men and women who have spent most of their
adult life single because their denomination required them to take an
oath of celebacy, then you may be upset. And you may be upset if your
religious training drove you to molesting children or seeking sexual
favor from members of the same sex. Or, trained you to lie, and
steal, and do other things that you know in your heart are contrary to
the Word of God.

Go ahead and kill file me; but kill filing me will not relieve you of
the guilt and it will not bring you into alignment and harmony with
God's will.

Is there a way out of the mess that you have allowed yourself to get
into? Yes. Jesus Christ is a complete savior and God's grace can
deliver you out of the messes you find yourself in. But you got to do
it God's way; not your way.

Why is it that people today do not manifest the power of God in their
lives? Because they do not understand and do the Word of God.

I can't share with you all that you need to know in one post. I don't
know it all either; but we can learn what we need to know from the
Word. If you are willing to forsake the wrong doctrine that you have
been taught and seek truth from God's Word; He can teach you what you
need to know.

What I can do is give you a a few pieces of information that will make
it much more easier to understand thousands of passages in the Bible.

The word of God is truth. Forget about the errors in translation and
corrupted texts because there are simple ways around those problems.
It is not the quantity of the Word that you know it is the quality of
the Word that you know that counts. Be honest, a lot of the stuff in
the Old Testament does not interest you. Right? Or; maybe it's the
some stuff in the Gospels, or Revelation, or Jude. Why? Well for one
reason is because God supplies needs and works with each of us based
upon our individual needs. Thus, some people get excited reading the
Old Testament and others get excited reading the Church Epistles -
because they have different needs. Some people like Matthew better
than John and some people like John better than Matthew because one
book fits their needs better than the other.

You have to read what the Word of God says in context. Words in the
word mean something and that something is determined by the context in
which they are used. The words in the Word of God are either literal
or figurative. Some will deny that the word of God is figurative in
any way, but will also say "Jesus said in the parable." A parable is
a figure of speech, as is a metaphor, simile, allegory, oxymoron,
proverb, etc. In fact there are over two hundred different figures of
speech used in the Bible that affect over one third of the passages in
the Bible.

My research of figures over the years led me to put together a
database containing every verse from the Bible and the figures that I
have found that applied to the passages. I have found about 17,000
usages in about 11,000 of the about 31,000 passages in the Bible. The
11,000 of 31,000 is where I get my one third statement from. But
right now we need to concern ourselves with only one figure of speech
that will help you to better understand thousands of passages.

A figure of speech is God's way of putting a word or words in bold
type. Figures of speech are used solely for the sake of emphasis.
They affect the form in which words are used. They affect the Hebrew
or Greek and may not be (but usually are) visible in the English
versions. You are familiar with a metaphor such as when Jesus said "I
am the vine." Jesus is not a vine so we know that the word "vine" is
not literally true to fact; but it is truer to truth because the
"vine" carries nutrition from the root to the branches (us). As the
vine, Jesus is our connection to God.

The figure Anthropopatheia ascribes to God (1) what belongs to human
and rational beings, (2) what belongs to irrational creatures, and (3)
what belongs to inanimate things. God is not a white haired old man
sitting on a gold throne behind pearly gates gaurded by Peter. God is
spirit and has no human body parts, no body parts of animals, and is
not made up of the elements in time and space. Thus, whenever and
wherever you see human attributes ascribed to God it is always the
figure Anthropopatheia. When you see "And God said" or "And God saw"
it is the figure Anthropopatheia because God does not possess the
organs of speech or eyes as we do. When it speaks of God repenting,
the wrath of God or jealousy' it is the figure Anthropopatheia because
God does not have feelings or emotions that people have. The same
goes for the bowels, hand, arm, mouth, or feet of God. No human body
parts means no human body part actions.

In Genesis 1:2 it says the spirit of god moved on the faces of the
waters. The word moved is translated from a Hebrew word that means to
brood or hover as a chicken hovers over its nest. God is not a
chicken and does not act like a chicken, but the passage tells us that
downward supernatural invisible spiritual pressure was applied to the
surface of the earth. The cause was the spirit moved and the effect
was that change came to be on the earth - cause and effect.

The Bible says that God is light, but light is electromagnetic energy
composed of what God created. Therefore it can not be true. Spirit
is antecedent to light but light is not antecedent to spirit. This is
the third form of Anthropopatheaia.

What is God? God is spirit. God is holy. God is love. Those three
supernatural invisible things are what God is. What about the Word?
When used of God it is the figure Anthropopatheia because it ascribes
to God what belongs to man. What is your word? It is that which
comes from within you. You think something and decide to express it.
You inhale, and exhale while moving your speech organs and what comes
out is you word which represents your will. God does not have body
parts to do all that with. When used of God "Word" speaks of the
internal spiritual will of God that has been released into the senses
world.

For more information look up the figure Anthropopatheia in E W
Bullinger's, Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. I will post a copy
of it as an attachment to this post.

-Barry
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