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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Pastor Dave" |
| Date: |
30 Nov 2007 08:53:28 PM |
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JANI, IMPARTIAL??? |
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****, I just quoted him saying that,
TWICE!!! Your moronic denials do not impress me!
Here it is FOR THE THIRD TIME!...
TIMOTHY: They do not refer to the state of being attracted
to someone of the same gender, or even to
the state of loving (or being in love with)
someone of the same gender, or indeed
sharing lives or accommodation with that
person.
You are one stupid *****!
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
--
Creation is the stage upon which God is revealing
His redemptive plan. We live out our part in the
history of redemption.
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: JANI, IMPARTIAL??? |
01 Dec 2007 07:23:48 AM |
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"Pasta Davey" <Con College Heretic> wrote in message
Excuse me, dumb *****, I just quoted him saying that,
TWICE!!! Your moronic denials do not impress me!
You are one stupid *****!
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
Isn't it amazing. This good christian guy claims Jani is a stupid *****, and
need a smack upside the head.
That folks is the kind of christianity, they teach in CON COLLEGE!!
And what did she do, argue with the pasta man about homomsexuality in the
bible.
Homosexuality is NOT A SIN IN THE BIBLE!!
If you claim it is, then you have to show us where you keep all the OT laws.
Start with REMEMBER THE SABBATH!!
Otherwise you are nothing but a religionist bigot, and a hypocrite!!
Like Pasta Davey!!
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| User: "=?UTF-8?B?Um9kIMK/?=" |
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| Title: Re: JANI, IMPARTIAL??? |
02 Dec 2007 08:22:47 PM |
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Zadok wrote:
"Pasta Davey" <Con College Heretic> wrote in message
Excuse me, dumb *****, I just quoted him saying that,
TWICE!!! Your moronic denials do not impress me!
You are one stupid *****!
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
Isn't it amazing. This good christian guy claims Jani is a stupid *****, and
need a smack upside the head.
That folks is the kind of christianity, they teach in CON COLLEGE!!
Paul was a murderer, Matthew a tax collector, and you are arrogant.
What is your point ?
And what did she do, argue with the pasta man about homomsexuality in the
bible.
Homosexuality is NOT A SIN IN THE BIBLE!!
Please provide some proof that God does not consider it sin...
If you claim it is, then you have to show us where you keep all the OT laws.
Start with REMEMBER THE SABBATH!!
Otherwise you are nothing but a religionist bigot, and a hypocrite!!
Like Pasta Davey!!
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: JANI, IMPARTIAL??? |
03 Dec 2007 07:26:31 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:22:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> said the following:
Zadok wrote:
"Pasta Davey" <Con College Heretic> wrote in message
Excuse me, dumb *****, I just quoted him saying that,
TWICE!!! Your moronic denials do not impress me!
You are one stupid *****!
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
Isn't it amazing. This good christian guy claims Jani is a stupid *****, and
need a smack upside the head.
That folks is the kind of christianity, they teach in CON COLLEGE!!
Paul was a murderer, Matthew a tax collector, and you are arrogant.
What is your point ?
And what did she do, argue with the pasta man about homomsexuality in the
bible.
Homosexuality is NOT A SIN IN THE BIBLE!!
Please provide some proof that God does not consider it sin...
Do not even trouble yourself. Zadok does not care who is
right and who is wrong and to him, I am wrong, period
and it is okay to cal me "pasta man", but it is wrong to
call Jani a dumb *****. Zadok is also in need of a good
smack upside the head! And you can see where he stands
on Biblical issues!
--
"Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific
work of any kind realises that over the entrance to
the gates of the temple of science are written the
words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the
scientist cannot dispense with." - Max Planck
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
01 Dec 2007 10:11:45 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
...
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
...
You are one stupid *****!
...
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
...
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
...
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?B?Um9kIMK/?=" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings.Please stop and repent. |
02 Dec 2007 05:32:47 PM |
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Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
02 Dec 2007 07:46:39 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> said the following:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
As I have told you, these people, Gabriel included,
are upset that they cannot support their doctrine
and they hate me, period.
And now, we see Gabriel, worried more about what
I said to an unbeliever who comes in to rail against
Christ, than he does about Christ.
He warns people about me, but accepts the unbeliever
as being righteous.
These people do need a smack upside the head and
they would never speak this way in real life! Not to me,
nor to any other person, let alone a pastor! And I have
challenged them to print their posts and show them to
their pastors, when they have insulted me and attacked
me out of the blue and of course, they don't.
But whenever I say something in which I may have used
bad language (but what i said was right), they make sure
to broadcast it for years! They are assholes, as far as I'm
concerned Rod and haters of Christ! And no, I do not feel
bad about speaking the truth and yes, I would say that to
their faces and have offered to more than once!
--
The fact is, if you can't believe the beginning,
you can't believe the end and shouldn't claim to.
To disbelieve the beginning, is to doubt many things
that Jesus said. After all, He made it clear that
He believed it. If you believe in the Trinity, how
can you believe that God wouldn't know how it all
started? If you can't believe the beginning, then
get off the pulpit.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
02 Dec 2007 07:06:40 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
Sorry I have to disagree. If someone is clearly going against
God's Word, living in sin, and moreso passing himself off as a
pastor in further mockery of God, it is our duty to rebuke him
and encourage him to repent and get right with God.
Dave clearly has shown no intent on repenting and continues to
mock God with his vicious hateful attacks on anybody and
everybody who dares disagree with his false teachings.
Matthew 7:15-23 KJVR Beware of false prophets, which come to you
in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree
bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil
fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither
can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that
bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the
fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not
every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which
is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out
devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then
will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.
What's not helping is making him think what he does is ok, just
to turn it down a notch. No, we help in the right way by
remaining biblical and pointing him to the Word of God.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?B?Um9kIMK/?=" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings.Please stop and repent. |
02 Dec 2007 08:07:42 PM |
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Gabriel wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
Sorry I have to disagree.
Thats fine.
If someone is clearly going against
God's Word, living in sin, and moreso passing himself off as a
pastor in further mockery of God, it is our duty to rebuke him
and encourage him to repent and get right with God.
Living in sin entails a lot of things...what sin do you accuse
him of ?
As for Pastorship, it is appointed by God, not man or clergy,
and the selection of the Apostles by Christ and God bear this
fact out. God makes His own decisions, He does not appoint
men to make them for Him. Mans selection of a man as pastor
includes the false prophet...so much for mans judgement...
Dave clearly has shown no intent on repenting and continues to
mock God with his vicious hateful attacks on anybody and
everybody who dares disagree with his false teachings.
Matthew 7:15-23 KJVR Beware of false prophets, which come to you
in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree
bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil
fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither
can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that
bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the
fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not
every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which
is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out
devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then
will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.
What's not helping is making him think what he does is ok, just
to turn it down a notch. No, we help in the right way by
remaining biblical and pointing him to the Word of God.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
03 Dec 2007 07:30:13 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:07:42 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> said the following:
Gabriel wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
Sorry I have to disagree.
Thats fine.
If someone is clearly going against
God's Word, living in sin, and moreso passing himself off as a
pastor in further mockery of God, it is our duty to rebuke him
and encourage him to repent and get right with God.
Living in sin entails a lot of things...what sin do you accuse
him of ?
As for Pastorship, it is appointed by God, not man or clergy,
and the selection of the Apostles by Christ and God bear this
fact out. God makes His own decisions, He does not appoint
men to make them for Him. Mans selection of a man as pastor
includes the false prophet...so much for mans judgement...
Gabriel is upset because he lost in a debate.
And that's why you will see him chasing me
from thread to thread, calling me evil, while
he spends his time chasing me to attack me.
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
1 Corinthians 1:7-8
7) So that *YE* come behind in no gift;
WAITING FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD
JESUS CHRIST:
8) Who shall also confirm YOU unto the end,
that *YE* may be blameless in the day of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
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| User: "Gabriel" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
02 Dec 2007 10:32:04 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:07:42 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
Sorry I have to disagree.
Thats fine.
If someone is clearly going against
God's Word, living in sin, and moreso passing himself off as a
pastor in further mockery of God, it is our duty to rebuke him
and encourage him to repent and get right with God.
Living in sin entails a lot of things...what sin do you accuse
him of ?
If you have to ask, I don't think you're being objective. Are you
claiming you've not witnessed in this newsgroup what he's done
that is clearly sinning according to the Word of God? You've not
witnessed the nasty, vicious attacks he does day in and day out
to people for no other reason than that they don't agree with his
personal doctrine? Or are you claiming that it's in the Word of
God for us to be nasty and vicious and attack others in such a
hateful, obscene manner?
As for Pastorship, it is appointed by God, not man or clergy,
and the selection of the Apostles by Christ and God bear this
fact out. God makes His own decisions, He does not appoint
men to make them for Him. Mans selection of a man as pastor
includes the false prophet...so much for mans judgement...
True, but not the point. To call oneself a pastor while throwing
the most obscene four letter words at people very single day is
an abomination to God. Or do you believe God teaches that pastors
in His name get obscene and vulgar with each other? Are you
claiming that God appointed him to be a pastor so that he could
go around with his filthy mouth and attack brothers in Christ in
a most vicious, hateful manner every day?
Dave clearly has shown no intent on repenting and continues to
mock God with his vicious hateful attacks on anybody and
everybody who dares disagree with his false teachings.
Matthew 7:15-23 KJVR Beware of false prophets, which come to you
in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree
bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil
fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither
can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that
bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the
fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not
every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which
is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out
devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then
will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.
What's not helping is making him think what he does is ok, just
to turn it down a notch. No, we help in the right way by
remaining biblical and pointing him to the Word of God.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?B?Um9kIMK/?=" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings.Please stop and repent. |
04 Dec 2007 07:16:59 PM |
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Gabriel wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:07:42 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:32:47 -0600, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:28 -0500, Pastor Dave
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:58 -0000, "Jani"
<Jani@dsl.pipex.com> said the following:
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
wrote in message
I stated that he said that the commands again said
homosexual acts do not refer to homosexuals who
claim to be in love, or even just live together.
And your statement was flat-out wrong, because
he *didn't say that*.
Excuse me, dumb *****,
..
Your moronic denials do not impress me!
..
You are one stupid *****!
..
And yes folks, she is just that! She hates Christ and rails
against Him and attacks anyone who won't bow and
worship her liberal anti-Christ views! And for some reason,
there are idiots here who claim she is not biased and she
is honest?!? Hello?!?
..
This woman needs a good smack upside the head,
not your pathetic stroking!
..
Stand for Christ, not friendship! Friendship with her,
is friendship with Satan! And if you don't realize that,
then you had better get down on your knees and ask
God for some serious help!
Dave, the hate and viciousness in your posts are undeniable. You
do not know God. You are clear evil and satan clearly has a hold
on you. You are unfortunately a servant of sin. I'm posting for
two reasons.
One, to ask you to repent from calling yourself a pastor and
behaving in a manner satan would have you behave. You are mocking
God by calling yourself a pastor, behavior in such a vicious,
nasty way, and then going on to try to be a teacher of God's
Word. You are an abomination to God for calling yourself a pastor
while behaving in such a way that a follower of satan would
behave. Please stop doing this and repent! God forgives us all,
and we all need to be forgiven. As it stands now, you're not
asking for forgiveness, you refused to repent, you continue to
live in sin, and you continue to fully mock God for behaving this
way while calling yourself a pastor and while spreading false
heretical teachings.
The second reason I post this: to warn others. This pastor Dave
is not a teacher of God. He is currently living in sin and satan
clearly has Dave in his grasp. As I've shown by a miniscule
sampling of his vicious nasty hate he continues to post even
today, and as he's done for over a year to countless people, He
is not in the least of God. He attacks others in vulgar, nasty,
vicious ways.
And anyone who tries to defend him is just as bad. If those that
defend him deny his *clearly* un-Godly fruits, his evil fruits,
you also are sinning against God. I do not recommend you continue
to defend such satanic behavior as calling yourself a pastor and
continuing to mock God by then offering vicious, vulgar and most
foul attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
Repent and turn away from your evil ways. Other people are also
not from God, as they show by speaking similar language. But Dave
is the only one calling himself a pastor, and teaching his
personal doctrines as if they come from God. This is why Dave
gets singled out so much more for such vicious, nasty behavior
that is a mockery to God: his behavior is an abomination to God,
given how he calls himself a pastor and passes off teachings of
God. Please repent before it's too late, Dave. And others (unless
it's Dave masquerading as other posters) need to stop supporting
such evil in the name of God. Let's pray that he comes to repent.
It's a disgrace to God to have him in this newsgroup behaving in
such an evil manner.
And this is not helping...
Sorry I have to disagree.
Thats fine.
If someone is clearly going against
God's Word, living in sin, and moreso passing himself off as a
pastor in further mockery of God, it is our duty to rebuke him
and encourage him to repent and get right with God.
Living in sin entails a lot of things...what sin do you accuse
him of ?
If you have to ask, I don't think you're being objective.
An opinion is the one thing that we have that will always be ours.
I've got a few of them myself.
Are you
claiming you've not witnessed in this newsgroup what he's done
that is clearly sinning according to the Word of God?
Are you actually going to listen to what I say, or spend your time
reading into what I've said ? If you are, I won't waste any more of my
time on you.
You've not
witnessed the nasty, vicious attacks he does day in and day out
to people for no other reason than that they don't agree with his
personal doctrine?
Unlike some of you, I KNOW for fact there is life outside of usenet,
so I don't spend a lot of time here. I'll remember this post when
reading other post by you. I want to see if you can stand up to the
same standard you hold others to. If you don't you'll hear from me about it.
Or are you claiming that it's in the Word of
God for us to be nasty and vicious and attack others in such a
hateful, obscene manner?
I'm not claiming anything. I asked you a question, can you answer it
or not ?
As for Pastorship, it is appointed by God, not man or clergy,
and the selection of the Apostles by Christ and God bear this
fact out. God makes His own decisions, He does not appoint
men to make them for Him. Mans selection of a man as pastor
includes the false prophet...so much for mans judgement...
True, but not the point. To call oneself a pastor while throwing
the most obscene four letter words at people very single day is
an abomination to God. Or do you believe God teaches that pastors
in His name get obscene and vulgar with each other?
I don't know...do you know me well enough to say those things with
any confidence that they are true ?
Are you
claiming that God appointed him to be a pastor so that he could
go around with his filthy mouth and attack brothers in Christ in
a most vicious, hateful manner every day?
I'm claiming only that God chooses those He anoints. Are you claiming
that he doesn't ? Are you of the opinion that anointing means the
anointed will never sin again ? King David was anointed by God, yet he
committed adultery with a soldiers wife. This fact kind of blows that
theory to the wind.
Dave clearly has shown no intent on repenting and continues to
mock God with his vicious hateful attacks on anybody and
everybody who dares disagree with his false teachings.
And you are intent on reading things into other peoples statements
that have not been there. It's a wonder that people even want to
talk with you when you're to busy to listen to them to actually
understand what was said.
I snipped the remainder of this post to keep you from being
distracted yet again by your own musings. I am not so easily
entertained, I actually believe in quality first.
Please address what I actually said, and not that which you assume
I am saying. It will make me much easier to converse with.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread false teachings. Please stop and repent. |
05 Dec 2007 03:07:59 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:16:59 GMT, Rod ¿
<nowdefunctmail@nomailanytime.com> said the following:
Gabriel wrote:
Are you
claiming you've not witnessed in this newsgroup what he's done
that is clearly sinning according to the Word of God?
Are you actually going to listen to what I say, or spend your time
reading into what I've said ? If you are, I won't waste any more of my
time on you.
Rod, besides the fact that I have used some foul language,
as him for a list of what I've done. You will find that it
consists of nothing more (as with every other person
saying this about me) than the fact that they don't like
my doctrine and couldn't refute it. Of course, the latter
part they won't admit to and will claim to have done so,
but it is a fact and their constant harping on me, even
months and years after they have been in my kill file,
chasing me from thread to thread, launching personal
attacks against me, is all the proof of this that I need!
You've not
witnessed the nasty, vicious attacks he does day in and day out
to people for no other reason than that they don't agree with his
personal doctrine?
Unlike some of you, I KNOW for fact there is life outside of usenet,
This is nothing more than their hypocrisy! They spend
their days attacking me and yet, claim I am attacking them!
Furthermore, they start the lies and the personal attacks
on me, refusing to stick to the issues!
In fact, Gabriel was so obvious in his hypocrisy, that
when I asked that we both agree to some fair rules
for our debate, he became a smart ***** and kept ignoring
my request and ignored my responses to his questions
and comments, because he knew he couldn't fool me
with his standard "taught to him" responses!
Then after 4 times of trying to get him to agree to
stop dancing around and set some rules with me
that were fair to both sides, the wisecracks started
and he started attacking me personally and my title.
Note that I was very polite to him until that point!
Gabriel, like the rest of the brainwashed idiots,
is a liar and a hypocrite who loves himself more
than any love that he *may* (and I do mean "may")
have for God!
Yet here he sits, trying to tear me down!
And no Rod, I don't care if my message sounds harsh!
These idiots claim that we should all ask; "What would
Jesus do?" and then when they are shown that they are
religious hypocrites who judge and attack, just like the
Pharisees did to Jesus and when they are shown that
Jesus said to those Pharisees; "You are of your father,
the Devil!", then, all of the sudden, it doesn't matter
what Jesus would do and they run around claiming
that I am attacking them, when it was a response to
their vicious, bloodthirsty attacks on me!
I also don't care if it sounds harsh, since I have
ABSOLUTELY ZERO respect for these morons
who masquerade as honest people! They all
accuse me of being a liar and yet, when I challenge
each one to prove that I have ever lied, even once,
all they come up with is me stating my doctrine
and claiming that since it's wrong (according to
them), that proves I'm a liar! But of course,
they don't count the 8 trillion times I proved them
wrong in their doctrine and yes, I do mean PROVED!
That is why they started their vicious attacks and
ran away from the thread and started multiple
threads filled with nothing bur personal attacks!
They're morons and they don't deserve to have keyboards!
--
The wages of sin is death. Repent before payday.
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| User: "Abrams1117" |
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| Title: Re: 'pastor' Dave: you continue to mock God and spread falseteachings. Please stop and repent. |
06 Dec 2007 01:07:17 PM |
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On Dec 5, 1:07 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:16:59 GMT, Rod =BF
<nowdefunctm...@nomailanytime.com> said the following:
Gabriel wrote:
Are you
claiming you've not witnessed in this newsgroup what he's done
that is clearly sinning according to the Word of God?
Are you actually going to listen to what I say, or spend your time
reading into what I've said ? If you are, I won't waste any more of my=
time on you.
Rod, besides the fact that I have used some foul language,
as him for a list of what I've done. You will find that it
consists of nothing more (as with every other person
saying this about me) than the fact that they don't like
my doctrine and couldn't refute it. Of course, the latter
part they won't admit to and will claim to have done so,
but it is a fact and their constant harping on me, even
months and years after they have been in my kill file,
chasing me from thread to thread, launching personal
attacks against me, is all the proof of this that I need!
You've not
witnessed the nasty, vicious attacks he does day in and day out
to people for no other reason than that they don't agree with his
personal doctrine?
Unlike some of you, I KNOW for fact there is life outside of usenet,
This is nothing more than their hypocrisy! They spend
their days attacking me and yet, claim I am attacking them!
Furthermore, they start the lies and the personal attacks
on me, refusing to stick to the issues!
In fact, Gabriel was so obvious in his hypocrisy, that
when I asked that we both agree to some fair rules
for our debate, he became a smart ***** and kept ignoring
my request and ignored my responses to his questions
and comments, because he knew he couldn't fool me
with his standard "taught to him" responses!
Then after 4 times of trying to get him to agree to
stop dancing around and set some rules with me
that were fair to both sides, the wisecracks started
and he started attacking me personally and my title.
Note that I was very polite to him until that point!
Gabriel, like the rest of the brainwashed idiots,
is a liar and a hypocrite who loves himself more
than any love that he *may* (and I do mean "may")
have for God!
Yet here he sits, trying to tear me down!
And no Rod, I don't care if my message sounds harsh!
These idiots claim that we should all ask; "What would
Jesus do?" and then when they are shown that they are
religious hypocrites who judge and attack, just like the
Pharisees did to Jesus and when they are shown that
Jesus said to those Pharisees; "You are of your father,
the Devil!", then, all of the sudden, it doesn't matter
what Jesus would do and they run around claiming
that I am attacking them, when it was a response to
their vicious, bloodthirsty attacks on me!
I also don't care if it sounds harsh, since I have
ABSOLUTELY ZERO respect for these morons
who masquerade as honest people! They all
accuse me of being a liar and yet, when I challenge
each one to prove that I have ever lied, even once,
all they come up with is me stating my doctrine
and claiming that since it's wrong (according to
them), that proves I'm a liar! But of course,
they don't count the 8 trillion times I proved them
wrong in their doctrine and yes, I do mean PROVED!
That is why they started their vicious attacks andranawayfrom the thread a=
nd started multiple
threads filled with nothing bur personal attacks!
They're morons and they don't deserve to have keyboards!
--
The wages of sin is death. Repent before payday.
Notice what PD says:
1) I also don't care if it sounds harsh, since I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO
respect for these morons
who masquerade as honest people!
If you do not agree with him you are only masquerading as an honest
person and you are a moron.
2) They all accuse me of being a liar...
Is this true or a lie? Has every single person that he has called
named called him a liar?
3) and yet, when I challenge each one to prove that I have ever lied,
even once, all they come up with
is me stating my doctrine and claiming that since it's wrong
(according to them), that proves I'm a liar!
Is number 2 above a lie?
How about number 1 above?
3)But of course,they don't count the 8 trillion times I proved them
wrong
Is this a lie? 8 'trillion' times?
4) in their doctrine and yes, I do mean PROVED!
By 'proved' did the people he proved this to accept that PD was
correct? Or did PD simply 'prove' it to himself?
When you prove something to someone is there no need for them to
accept that proof? Or do you simply get to
state what you believe and say 'I proved it'?
Is number 4 above a lie?
5) That is why they started their vicious attacks
Is it always the other person that starts the vicious attacks?
Is this a lie?
6) andranawayfrom the thread
Does everyone run away from PD?
Is this a lie?
Were there times when he ran away and claimed that someone else did?
7) and started multiplethreads filled with nothing bur personal
attacks!
Were all of these threads 'nothing' but personal attacks?
Or is this a lie?
I searched 'ran away' and found this from June 2004 :
Re: OPEN CHALLENGE
Group: alt.bible.prophecy Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2005, 6:12pm (EST+5)
From:
newsgroupm...@nospam-tampabay.rr.com (Pastor Dave)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:49:33 -0500, after pondering deep thoughts,
"RAYPHOS" <RAYP...@BigFoot.com> spake thusly:
<> Only God can inspire and teach any one of
us.
And to each in a different manner according to His Will.
Where do you get off setting yourself up as God - Judgeing others?
Mat 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. v2 For in the same
way
you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use,
it
will be measured to you. v3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust
[kj- beam in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in
your own eye? v4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the
speck
out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
v5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you
will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Best regards
---------------------------------------------------------
PD
He's upset because he lost our last debate and ran away, while
accusing
me of doing so. The fact is, he was kill filed for constantly sending
insulting posts, after I rebutted his claims and his claim about what
Jesus said applying in every instance is false, which is why he posts
me
talking about the word "you", but I said it as applied to a
particular
sermon Jesus spoke. Yet he claims I said it applies in every instance
in
the Bible, but cannot quote me saying those words.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies
are
my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which
is
the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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The fact is that I didn't say what Ray says I did. He may apologize
for
this but you cannot.
PD claims now that I ran away from the debate.
*Any words forund in ' ( ) ' are my words that I am adding today.
Here are some old posts:
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Abrams1117
Hi Besq,
Theres only one rule, let scripture tell us what scriptures means. And
I
was taught that kicking, biting and screaming by Herbert W. Armstrong
=2E
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PD
And yet, you do not do that, but instead, come up with magical
scenarios
=2E
-------------------------------------
(Notice that PD claims that I insult him, here I am posting to Besq
whom
I have known online for years and PD joins in to say that I come up
with
;magical scenarios')'
Abrams1117
Magical?
Is in creating the earth?
Laying its foundation?
Froming a man from the dust of the earth? Resurrecting the dead?
Yes, very magical.
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PD
I have demolished your arguments Scripturally. Now you're simply
lying
and that makes you a liar
=2E
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(NOW PD jumps right im calling me a liar. Did I saying anything about
him?)
Abrams1117
The only scriptures you have posted had nothing at all to say
dis-proving that only Christ has ascended into heaven. You also
claimed
incorrectly that the verse in Acts were about the time of David's
death.
And as always you ignore whenever you are wrong and fall back on your
own words.
If I've missed something, post it.
I don't believe that you can.
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(Notice that I try to discuss scripture, and all he wants to do is
say'
you're lying' , you play word games' etc)
PD
Once again, you're lying. You tried to play word games and dodge
ball,
when your arguments were shown for what they were and you could not
back
them up Scripturally
=2E
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Abrams117
Lying?
The posts still exist.
You would never even let the discussion begin. I'm right here.
I've asked -how many times!- already about the moon becoming blood
and
the sun becoming black and posting verses from different books,
saying
its the same event.
YOU JUST IGNORE IT.
You never answer.
More of your own words.
More of your own words.
More of your own words.
More of your own words.
No discussion can even begin if you never reply. The moon and sun -
any
response?
I'll bet like always........nope.
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PD
It is also noted that you have now been posting one message after
another, in which you have thrown personal insults at me and now wish
to
lie and try to convince someone else that I ran away. No sir, it is
you
who ran away from the truth. I exposed you fantasy as a fantasy and
you
didn't like that much. Anyone can go back through the threads and see
this for themselves
=2E
-------------------------------------
(PD admits that I was chasing him in every single thread in which he
posted- my goal was to get him to stick to the challenge that he
himself
started!)
Abrams1117
Fantasy?
Once more: scripture.
Ever hear of it?
I ran away?
I've followed you in every topic I could find pointing out your
mistakes
trying to force your hand into accepting your very own challenge! And
has it finally worked?
Let the games begin!
Where were we way way way way back when? Zechariah 14!
Let everyone see.
Would you like me to begin?
I bet you would.
(I bet he WON'T use scripture and he will NOT answer except using his
own human words.)
Ignore scripture this time and I'll continue to chase you from thread
to
thread until you accept your own challenge or leave the forum.
WHAT IS THE RAPTURE AND HOW CLOSE IS IT? (PD) Pastor Dave Jun 30
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posted thusly:
Abrams1117
Hi Besq,
Theres only one rule, let scripture tell us what scriptures means. And
I
was taught that kicking, biting and screaming by Herbert W.
Armstrong.
---------------------------------------------------
PD
And yet, you do not do that, but instead, come up with magical
scenarios.
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So far PD has not even made A SINGLE CLAIM against anything that I
have
posted by using scripture.
---------------------------------------------------------
(Notice I said that PD doesnt use scripture, he hasnt refuted
anything-
does he finally accpeted his verey own challenge?)
PD
I have demolished your arguments Scripturally. Now you're simply
lying and that makes you a liar.
I have tried every trick in the book to try and get him in the
debate,
which is his own 'challenge'.
Once again, you're lying. You tried to play word games and dodge
ball, when your arguments were shown for what they were and you could
not back them up Scripturally. It is also noted that you have now
been
posting one message after another, in which you have thrown personal
insults at me and now wish to lie and try to convince someone else
that
I ran away. No sir, it is you who ran away from the truth. I
exposed you fantasy as a fantasy and you didn't like that much.
Anyone can go back through the threads and see this for themselves
Note the subject line of this message. It is obvious that "PD" is
me.
The fact that you continue on and on, posting messages about me and
insulting me, reveals all we need to know about you.
--
=B1
Pastor Dave Raymond =B1
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee:
neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came
out
of my lips was right before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which
is
the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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PD
Note the subject line of this message. It is obvious that "PD" is me.
The fact that you continue on and on, posting messages about me and
insulting me, reveals all we need to know about you
=2E
-------------------------------------
(NOTICE MY RESPONSE TO HIM!)
Abrams1117
I am doing everything I can to make you accept your own challenge.
You
did see the 'PD'.
Let everyone know that you are running away. Show the verses where we
are supposed to be now worshipping Jesus.
-END QUOTES-
Now notice, he compared Jesus Christ to Gumby, he asked if G-d had
sweapt his 'tail!', he said that Acts 2 was talking about the time of
Davids death, he said that we are to worship Jesus. AND HE CANT PROVE
ANY OF THESE THINGS.
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
But PD CANNOT. Why?
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different
person a liar.
Who is the liar?
Who is the father of lies?
Who is PD following?
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Abrams1117 wrote:
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
It doesn't really matter if anybody agrees. Whether or not you Mr
Abrams or anybody else agrees with PD, has no bearing on being right.
I don't agree with Pastor Dave but then I don't strive with people
just to do it. Your not looking to be right and so it's silly that you
asked this question so many times because all your looking for is to
strive with people.
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
Sure they would, they would state there objection and then leave it
alone. You don't even argue about the topic from the start. Somehow
you think that only your opinion matters and you have no respect.
Anything that you don't agree with, you make a point just making
stupid post. I don't agree with Dave but then... I just don't bother
responding to his post... It's an example a lot of people here set, as
I've noticed since hardly anybody agrees with me.
But PD CANNOT. Why?
What's it to you? You think that by being annoying your going to
change anybodies mind? Hardly.
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different person a liar.
So what.
Who is the liar?
I think any reasonable person can figure things out without you
striving with every person that doesn't agree with you.
Who is the father of lies?
The person that strives just for the sake of it and not for the truth.
Who is PD following?
His own belief and to that end, his own version of the truth and the
wisdom given him. I can say this, while I don't agree with Dave on
most issues, I do agree with him on a few. I believe it's a lot more
positive to keep a healthy attitude and mix it up from time to time...
but when you reach an impasse that you know your not going to bridge,
let it be and don't just strive for the sake of having a never ending
debate.
It's why I stop responding to YOU.
Regards,
Snow
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is
the true token of greatness. Character is the result of two things:
mental attitude and the way we spend our time. Christianity supplies a
Hell for the people who disagree with you and a Heaven for your
friends.
Elbert Hubbard
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06 Dec 2007 03:48:33 PM |
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On Dec 6, 1:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Abrams1117 wrote:
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
It doesn't really matter if anybody agrees. Whether or not you Mr Abrams or anybody else agrees with PD, has no bearing on being right.
PS says G-D swept His 'tail'; he compares Jesus Christ to a hood, to
gumby and says he is a 'liar'. I was actually
asking a vaid question. Is there anyone but him that believs those
things? Or believes that it is ok to say them??
I don't agree with Pastor Dave but then I don't strive with people
just to do it. Your not looking to be right and so it's silly that you
asked this question so many times because all your looking for is to
strive with people.
Anyone that does not satnd up to such vile statements supports them.
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
Sure they would, they would state there objection and then leave it
alone. You don't even argue about the topic from the start. Somehow
you think that only your opinion matters and you have no respect.
Like respect for G-D?
All opinions matter. Lies and vile statements have to be fought
against.
Anything that you don't agree with, you make a point just making
stupid post. I don't agree with Dave but then... I just don't bother
responding to his post... It's an example a lot of people here set, as
I've noticed since hardly anybody agrees with me.
Already with the attacks.
PD started a 'challenge' then left it.
But PD CANNOT. Why?
What's it to you? You think that by being annoying your going to
change anybodies mind? Hardly.
It was his challenge; not mine.
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different person a liar.
So what.
Its not ok to call people liars.
Who is the liar?
I think any reasonable person can figure things out without you
striving with every person that doesn't agree with you.
No one has to agree. Just be honest, don't call people names or lie.
Things that should have been learned as a child.
Who is the father of lies?
The person that strives just for the sake of it and not for the truth.
No. Satan is the father of lies.
Who is PD following?
His own belief and to that end, his own version of the truth and the
wisdom given him. I can say this, while I don't agree with Dave on
most issues, I do agree with him on a few. I believe it's a lot more
positive to keep a healthy attitude and mix it up from time to time...
but when you reach an impasse that you know your not going to bridge,
let it be and don't just strive for the sake of having a never ending
debate.
It's why I stop responding to YOU.
Its because you couldn't asnwer the things that I asked.
* When you resorted to name calling I kept ignoring it and asking
question about Scripture.
Regards,
Snow
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is
the true token of greatness. Character is the result of two things:
mental attitude and the way we spend our time. Christianity supplies a
Hell for the people who disagree with you and a Heaven for your
friends.
Elbert Hubbard
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06 Dec 2007 03:50:58 PM |
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Top Post:
You do know this is exactly what PD wants?
He wants to take the discussion away from Scripture and make it about
people.
* All those following his god will respond about 'people'; all others
will discuss Scripture.
On Dec 6, 1:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Abrams1117 wrote:
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
It doesn't really matter if anybody agrees. Whether or not you Mr
Abrams or anybody else agrees with PD, has no bearing on being right.
I don't agree with Pastor Dave but then I don't strive with people
just to do it. Your not looking to be right and so it's silly that you
asked this question so many times because all your looking for is to
strive with people.
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
Sure they would, they would state there objection and then leave it
alone. You don't even argue about the topic from the start. Somehow
you think that only your opinion matters and you have no respect.
Anything that you don't agree with, you make a point just making
stupid post. I don't agree with Dave but then... I just don't bother
responding to his post... It's an example a lot of people here set, as
I've noticed since hardly anybody agrees with me.
But PD CANNOT. Why?
What's it to you? You think that by being annoying your going to
change anybodies mind? Hardly.
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different person a liar.
So what.
Who is the liar?
I think any reasonable person can figure things out without you
striving with every person that doesn't agree with you.
Who is the father of lies?
The person that strives just for the sake of it and not for the truth.
Who is PD following?
His own belief and to that end, his own version of the truth and the
wisdom given him. I can say this, while I don't agree with Dave on
most issues, I do agree with him on a few. I believe it's a lot more
positive to keep a healthy attitude and mix it up from time to time...
but when you reach an impasse that you know your not going to bridge,
let it be and don't just strive for the sake of having a never ending
debate.
It's why I stop responding to YOU.
Regards,
Snow
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is
the true token of greatness. Character is the result of two things:
mental attitude and the way we spend our time. Christianity supplies a
Hell for the people who disagree with you and a Heaven for your
friends.
Elbert Hubbard
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06 Dec 2007 03:56:50 PM |
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On Dec 7, 8:50 am, Abrams1117 <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
Top Post:
You do know this is exactly what PD wants?
He wants to take the discussion away from Scripture and make it about
people.
* All those following his god will respond about 'people'; all others
will discuss Scripture.
On Dec 6, 1:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Abrams1117 wrote:
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
It doesn't really matter if anybody agrees. Whether or not you Mr
Abrams or anybody else agrees with PD, has no bearing on being right.
I don't agree with Pastor Dave but then I don't strive with people
just to do it. Your not looking to be right and so it's silly that you
asked this question so many times because all your looking for is to
strive with people.
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
Sure they would, they would state there objection and then leave it
alone. You don't even argue about the topic from the start. Somehow
you think that only your opinion matters and you have no respect.
Anything that you don't agree with, you make a point just making
stupid post. I don't agree with Dave but then... I just don't bother
responding to his post... It's an example a lot of people here set, as
I've noticed since hardly anybody agrees with me.
But PD CANNOT. Why?
What's it to you? You think that by being annoying your going to
change anybodies mind? Hardly.
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different person a liar.
So what.
Who is the liar?
I think any reasonable person can figure things out without you
striving with every person that doesn't agree with you.
Who is the father of lies?
The person that strives just for the sake of it and not for the truth.
Who is PD following?
His own belief and to that end, his own version of the truth and the
wisdom given him. I can say this, while I don't agree with Dave on
most issues, I do agree with him on a few. I believe it's a lot more
positive to keep a healthy attitude and mix it up from time to time...
but when you reach an impasse that you know your not going to bridge,
let it be and don't just strive for the sake of having a never ending
debate.
It's why I stop responding to YOU.
Regards,
Snow
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is
the true token of greatness. Character is the result of two things:
mental attitude and the way we spend our time. Christianity supplies a
Hell for the people who disagree with you and a Heaven for your
friends.
Elbert Hubbard
You talk about yourself all the time. Don't be a hypocrite. You argue
just for the sake of it and have nothing to add to the conversation so
why bother?
Shalom,
Snow
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still
call him vile names. In order to have friends, you must first be one.
Live truth instead of professing it. Positive anything is better than
negative nothing.
Elbert Hubbard
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06 Dec 2007 04:47:33 PM |
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On Dec 6, 1:56 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 7, 8:50 am, Abrams1117 <John1...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
Top Post:
You do know this is exactly what PD wants?
He wants to take the discussion away from Scripture and make it about
people.
* All those following his god will respond about 'people'; all others
will discuss Scripture.
On Dec 6, 1:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Abrams1117 wrote:
DO YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THEM?
It doesn't really matter if anybody agrees. Whether or not you Mr
Abrams or anybody else agrees with PD, has no bearing on being right.
I don't agree with Pastor Dave but then I don't strive with people
just to do it. Your not looking to be right and so it's silly that you
asked this question so many times because all your looking for is to
strive with people.
Would anyone, even remotely G-d fearing not respond scripturally to
these things?
Sure they would, they would state there objection and then leave it
alone. You don't even argue about the topic from the start. Somehow
you think that only your opinion matters and you have no respect.
Anything that you don't agree with, you make a point just making
stupid post. I don't agree with Dave but then... I just don't bother
responding to his post... It's an example a lot of people here set, as
I've noticed since hardly anybody agrees with me.
But PD CANNOT. Why?
What's it to you? You think that by being annoying your going to
change anybodies mind? Hardly.
Just yesterday I read three of PD's posts, in each he called a
different person a liar.
So what.
Who is the liar?
I think any reasonable person can figure things out without you
striving with every person that doesn't agree with you.
Who is the father of lies?
The person that strives just for the sake of it and not for the truth.
Who is PD following?
His own belief and to that end, his own version of the truth and the
wisdom given him. I can say this, while I don't agree with Dave on
most issues, I do agree with him on a few. I believe it's a lot more
positive to keep a healthy attitude and mix it up from time to time...
but when you reach an impasse that you know your not going to bridge,
let it be and don't just strive for the sake of having a never ending
debate.
It's why I stop responding to YOU.
Regards,
Snow
A retentive memory may be a good thing, but the ability to forget is
the true token of greatness. Character is the result of two things:
mental attitude and the way we spend our time. Christianity supplies a
Hell for the people who disagree with you and a Heaven for your
friends.
Elbert Hubbard
You talk about yourself all the time. Don't be a hypocrite.
All the time?
When you said I dont believe people should keep the Sabbath you said
what 'I' believe.
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