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"Carl" |
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08 Aug 2007 10:06:03 PM |
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Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ |
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
by WALTER MARTIN
Jehovah's Witnesses and their official organization, the Watchtower Bible
and
Tract Society, have historically denied the bodily resurrection of Jesus
Christ and have maintained that His was a "spirit" or "spiritual"
resurrection to quote the Watchtower.
"The King, Christ Jesus, was put to death in the flesh and was resurrected
an invisible spirit creature."1
Further developing their teaching, the Witnesses proclaim: "In His
resurrection He was no more human. He was raised as a spirit creature."2
In addition to this, the Watchtower has even suggested that Christ's body
was
"dissolved into gases" or "preserved somewhere as the grand memorial of
God's
love."3
IN order to understand the true teaching of the resurrection, it is
necessary
to review briefly the Biblical position, which is at considerable odds with
the Watchtower.
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is quite literally the historical bedrock
upon which the Christian faith rests. The Apostle Paul indeed tells us that
"if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is
also vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14). He also declares, "If Christ be not
raised,
your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins" (verse 17).
From these two statements in the Word of God, we can see the resurrection of
our Lord determines the validity of our faith and even our salvation, for
without His resurrection our faith is "vain" and we are "yet in our sins."
In this connection, it must also be remembered that every verse in the Bible
which deals with the resurrection of the dead, and the Lord particularly,
refers exclusively to the human body; i.e., a bodily resuscitation; never a
spirit or spiritual resurrection. In fact the word "resurrection" is never
applied to the soul or spirit of man. This fact is born out in the original
Hebrew and Greek. Beyond this, our Lord specifically prophesied that His
resurrection would be bodily; that is, in a glorified form of the body He
then possessed. When speaking to the unbelieving Jews, as recorded in the
second chapter of John's Gospel, Christ stated "Destroy this temple, and inn
three days I will raise it up" (verse 19).
The Jews, however, thought he was referring to the temple in Jerusalem but
the Apostle John clearly declares our Lord's meaning: "But he spake of the
temple of his body" (verse 21).
The Greek word soma is translated "body" throughout the New Testament, so it
is an inescapable fact that Christ was referring to his own physical form -
hence a bodily resurrection.
Two classic New Testament references which corroborate our Lord's prophecy
of His bodily resurrection are in the 20th chapter of John and 24th chapter
of Luke. In John 20 when our Lord appeared to the doubting Thomas, the same
body in which He died upon the cross is evidenced by His own words:
"Reach hither thy finger, and behold by hands, and reach hither thy hand,
and
thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing" (verse 27).
In Luke 24, we again see how the words of Christ refute the spirit
resurrection idea of Jehovah's Witnesses.
"And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith
unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrightened, and
supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye
troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your heart? Behold my hands and my
feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see, for a spirit hath not flesh
and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he showed them
his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and
wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a
piece
of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before
them" (verses 36-43).
Not only, then, did our Lord have "flesh and bones," but he showed them the
same hands and feet which bore the wounds of Calvary (verses 39, 40). The
fact that He also ate broiled fish and a honeycomb (verse 42 and 43) proves
that He was not a "spirit creature" as Jehovah's Witnesses contend. Moreover
our Lord's words, "It is I myself...a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye
see me have" (verse 39) was uttered according to verse 37 and 38 because the
disciples thought He was a spirit. Jesus, however absolutely disproved that
by offering His body as tangible evidence (verse 39, 40).
Sometimes Jehovah's Witnesses attempt to explain away these appearances of
Christ by asserting that He had a "spiritual body" (1 Corinthians 15:44) or
that He merely assumed different bodies to encourage His disciples, which
the
Witnesses say accounts for the fact that those who knew Him the best in life
did not recognize Him after His resurrection (John 20:11-16; Luke 24:15-30).
The Witnesses also argue that 1 Peter 3:18, which refers to Christ's
resurrection and states that He was "made alive in spirit" (literal Greek),
establishes their theory, but they are in error.
While it is true that Paul speaks of "a spiritual body" he nevertheless
calls
it a "body" (Greek "soma") and we have already seen how Christ possessed
"flesh and bones" (Luke 24:39). A spiritual body then is not "a spirit" as
the Witnesses make our, but a glorified, immortal, physical form possessing
certain spiritual characteristics or attributes (i.e., the ability to pass
through locked doors or vanish at will. John 20:19, 26; Luke 24:31)
Again, Jehovah's Witnesses' idea that because Mary Magdalene and the
disciples could not recognize Christ on three occasions "proves" that He had
assumed "different bodies" other than the one in which He died upon the
cross, is disposed of by Luke 24:16. Luke there tells us that when the
disciples encountered Jesus their eyes were kept from recognizing Him as a
direct act of Christ's will. When He finished His conversation, He allowed
their sense of vision to perceive who He really was; thus "their eyes were
opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight" (verse 31).
Finally, 1 Peter 3:18, far from "proving" that Jesus was raised a spirit as
the Witnesses insist, only proves that He was raised in or by the Spirit of
God as the Apostle Paul tells us in Romans 8:11. The main objections, then,
that Jehovah's Witnesses raise against the bodily resurrection of our Lord
are all thoroughly answered by the Scriptures themselves and represent no
real threat to historic Christian doctrine of the resurrection.
The Bible, therefore, does have mush to say about the resurrection of Christ
as we have seen, and nowhere supports the spirit-resurrection theory of
Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact, all of it contradicts their teaching.
To the sincere, zealous, yet misled members of Jehovah's Witnesses, the
Christian church must repeat the statement of our Lord Himself: "Why are ye
troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my
feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh
and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:38, 39).
The true teaching concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ does indeed
determine a person's eternal destiny (1 Corinthians 15:14, 17). For "If you
will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart
that God has raised him from among the dead, you will be saved" (Romans
10:9,
Literal Greek).
1. Let God Be True, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, p. 122,
Edition 1946.
2. The Kingdom is at Hand, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
p. 258.
3. Studies in the Scripture, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
p. 129, Vol 2.
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| User: "colp" |
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| Title: Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ |
09 Aug 2007 03:15:53 AM |
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Carl wrote:
<snip>
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is quite literally the historical bedrock
upon which the Christian faith rests. The Apostle Paul indeed tells us that
"if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is
also vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14). He also declares, "If Christ be not
raised,
your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins" (verse 17).
Paul was not a true apostle. The were twelve apostles, just as there
were twelve pillars and twelve tribes.
From these two statements in the Word of God, we can see the resurrection of
our Lord determines the validity of our faith and even our salvation, for
without His resurrection our faith is "vain" and we are "yet in our sins."
In this context, the "Word of God" means the Bible, and does not the
same meaning as the Word which is written about in the Bible.
In this connection, it must also be remembered that every verse in the Bible
which deals with the resurrection of the dead, and the Lord particularly,
refers exclusively to the human body; i.e., a bodily resuscitation; never a
spirit or spiritual resurrection. In fact the word "resurrection" is never
applied to the soul or spirit of man. This fact is born out in the original
Hebrew and Greek. Beyond this, our Lord specifically prophesied that His
resurrection would be bodily; that is, in a glorified form of the body He
then possessed. When speaking to the unbelieving Jews, as recorded in the
second chapter of John's Gospel, Christ stated "Destroy this temple, and inn
three days I will raise it up" (verse 19).
The Jews, however, thought he was referring to the temple in Jerusalem but
the Apostle John clearly declares our Lord's meaning: "But he spake of the
temple of his body" (verse 21).
The problem here is that John's account would be colored by the events
which followed - if John was mistaken then either meaning could apply.
The Greek word soma is translated "body" throughout the New Testament, so it
is an inescapable fact that Christ was referring to his own physical form -
hence a bodily resurrection.
In does not follow that because John was referring to a human body
that a bodily resurrection
actually occurred.
<snip>
Not only, then, did our Lord have "flesh and bones," but he showed them the
same hands and feet which bore the wounds of Calvary (verses 39, 40).
The text does not state that his hands and feet bore wounds.
<snip>
Again, Jehovah's Witnesses' idea that because Mary Magdalene and the
disciples could not recognize Christ on three occasions "proves" that He had
assumed "different bodies" other than the one in which He died upon the
cross, is disposed of by Luke 24:16. Luke there tells us that when the
disciples encountered Jesus their eyes were kept from recognizing Him as a
direct act of Christ's will.
The text does not suggest that their eyes were affected by another
being.
When He finished His conversation, He allowed
their sense of vision to perceive who He really was; thus "their eyes were
opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight" (verse 31).
"Eyes being opened" is metaphorical, and in this context the meaning
is that they knew him.
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you,
while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which
were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the
psalms, concerning me.
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the
scriptures,
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to
suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luke 24:44-46
At the time it was not written that "it behoved Christ to suffer, and
to rise from the dead the third day".
http://solder.ath.cx/pages/switched.html
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| User: "bob young" |
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09 Aug 2007 05:38:02 AM |
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colp wrote:
Carl wrote:
<snip>
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is quite literally the historical bedrock
upon which the Christian faith rests. The Apostle Paul indeed tells us that
"if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is
also vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14). He also declares, "If Christ be not
raised,
your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins" (verse 17).
Paul was not a true apostle. The were twelve apostles, just as there
were twelve pillars and twelve tribes.
It was a nice story but so long ago impossible to verify,
so why argue over something clouded in mythology?
From these two statements in the Word of God, we can see the resurrection of
our Lord determines the validity of our faith and even our salvation, for
without His resurrection our faith is "vain" and we are "yet in our sins."
In this context, the "Word of God" means the Bible, and does not the
same meaning as the Word which is written about in the Bible.
In this connection, it must also be remembered that every verse in the Bible
which deals with the resurrection of the dead, and the Lord particularly,
refers exclusively to the human body; i.e., a bodily resuscitation; never a
spirit or spiritual resurrection. In fact the word "resurrection" is never
applied to the soul or spirit of man. This fact is born out in the original
Hebrew and Greek. Beyond this, our Lord specifically prophesied that His
resurrection would be bodily; that is, in a glorified form of the body He
then possessed. When speaking to the unbelieving Jews, as recorded in the
second chapter of John's Gospel, Christ stated "Destroy this temple, and inn
three days I will raise it up" (verse 19).
The Jews, however, thought he was referring to the temple in Jerusalem but
the Apostle John clearly declares our Lord's meaning: "But he spake of the
temple of his body" (verse 21).
The problem here is that John's account would be colored by the events
which followed - if John was mistaken then either meaning could apply.
The Greek word soma is translated "body" throughout the New Testament, so it
is an inescapable fact that Christ was referring to his own physical form -
hence a bodily resurrection.
In does not follow that because John was referring to a human body
that a bodily resurrection
actually occurred.
<snip>
Not only, then, did our Lord have "flesh and bones," but he showed them the
same hands and feet which bore the wounds of Calvary (verses 39, 40).
The text does not state that his hands and feet bore wounds.
<snip>
Again, Jehovah's Witnesses' idea that because Mary Magdalene and the
disciples could not recognize Christ on three occasions "proves" that He had
assumed "different bodies" other than the one in which He died upon the
cross, is disposed of by Luke 24:16. Luke there tells us that when the
disciples encountered Jesus their eyes were kept from recognizing Him as a
direct act of Christ's will.
The text does not suggest that their eyes were affected by another
being.
When He finished His conversation, He allowed
their sense of vision to perceive who He really was; thus "their eyes were
opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight" (verse 31).
"Eyes being opened" is metaphorical, and in this context the meaning
is that they knew him.
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you,
while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which
were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the
psalms, concerning me.
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the
scriptures,
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to
suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luke 24:44-46
At the time it was not written that "it behoved Christ to suffer, and
to rise from the dead the third day".
http://solder.ath.cx/pages/switched.html
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| User: "bob young" |
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09 Aug 2007 12:06:02 AM |
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Carl wrote:
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
The Resurrectrion is a primitive myth
CURTAIN RISES
[Menam, a Priest, is talking with his buddies in the temple].
ÒBrothers the flock are restless and I'm tired of them asking me 'Where is that
god you want us to pray to', they keep insisting on seeing him"
Rastus, [another priest]:
"I have the same problem, it's getting me down, they keep saying 'Produce him'.
You know the Vishnus down the road have a wooden god in a hut and more and more
people are going there to pray these daysÓ
Influx [The Senior Priest]:
"Listen, let's invite that preacher fella Jesus to join us, he is popular and
he preaches well. We'll tell 'em he is god's sonÓ.
Rastus. [Laughing]
ÒDon't be silly, how can we say that, he's just a preacher, gods don't send
their sons down to earth. How do we say he got here?Ó
Influx. [Thinks]
ÒWell we can tell them 'e was borne of a virgin. [Scratches head] I'm sure we
can find a virgin somewhere, if we look hard enough.
Rastus.
That won't be any use, when 'e dies we'll have to start all over again to find
another 'son of a god'. Anyway, they are not going to buy that yarn of yours a
second time around!
Influx. [Grins]
Aaah but listen. [Chuckles] When 'e dies we'll hide him away in a cave, steal
the body in the middle of the night and then, listen to this, your gonna love
this, [nudges Rastus in the ribs], then we'll tell them ÒHe floated slowly up
into the sky to heaven just above the clouds [raises arms and makes floating
motions] and he now sits up there with god - Fellas we'll have 'em in the palm
of our hands for eternity.
[All priests together]:
"Spontaneous cheeringÓ.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
by WALTER MARTIN
Jehovah's Witnesses and their official organization, the Watchtower Bible
and
Tract Society, have historically denied the bodily resurrection of Jesus
Christ and have maintained that His was a "spirit" or "spiritual"
resurrection to quote the Watchtower.
"The King, Christ Jesus, was put to death in the flesh and was resurrected
an invisible spirit creature."1
Further developing their teaching, the Witnesses proclaim: "In His
resurrection He was no more human. He was raised as a spirit creature."2
In addition to this, the Watchtower has even suggested that Christ's body
was
"dissolved into gases" or "preserved somewhere as the grand memorial of
God's
love."3
IN order to understand the true teaching of the resurrection, it is
necessary
to review briefly the Biblical position, which is at considerable odds with
the Watchtower.
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is quite literally the historical bedrock
upon which the Christian faith rests. The Apostle Paul indeed tells us that
"if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching in vain, and your faith is
also vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14). He also declares, "If Christ be not
raised,
your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins" (verse 17).
From these two statements in the Word of God, we can see the resurrection of
our Lord determines the validity of our faith and even our salvation, for
without His resurrection our faith is "vain" and we are "yet in our sins."
In this connection, it must also be remembered that every verse in the Bible
which deals with the resurrection of the dead, and the Lord particularly,
refers exclusively to the human body; i.e., a bodily resuscitation; never a
spirit or spiritual resurrection. In fact the word "resurrection" is never
applied to the soul or spirit of man. This fact is born out in the original
Hebrew and Greek. Beyond this, our Lord specifically prophesied that His
resurrection would be bodily; that is, in a glorified form of the body He
then possessed. When speaking to the unbelieving Jews, as recorded in the
second chapter of John's Gospel, Christ stated "Destroy this temple, and inn
three days I will raise it up" (verse 19).
The Jews, however, thought he was referring to the temple in Jerusalem but
the Apostle John clearly declares our Lord's meaning: "But he spake of the
temple of his body" (verse 21).
The Greek word soma is translated "body" throughout the New Testament, so it
is an inescapable fact that Christ was referring to his own physical form -
hence a bodily resurrection.
Two classic New Testament references which corroborate our Lord's prophecy
of His bodily resurrection are in the 20th chapter of John and 24th chapter
of Luke. In John 20 when our Lord appeared to the doubting Thomas, the same
body in which He died upon the cross is evidenced by His own words:
"Reach hither thy finger, and behold by hands, and reach hither thy hand,
and
thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing" (verse 27).
In Luke 24, we again see how the words of Christ refute the spirit
resurrection idea of Jehovah's Witnesses.
"And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith
unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrightened, and
supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye
troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your heart? Behold my hands and my
feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see, for a spirit hath not flesh
and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he showed them
his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and
wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a
piece
of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before
them" (verses 36-43).
Not only, then, did our Lord have "flesh and bones," but he showed them the
same hands and feet which bore the wounds of Calvary (verses 39, 40). The
fact that He also ate broiled fish and a honeycomb (verse 42 and 43) proves
that He was not a "spirit creature" as Jehovah's Witnesses contend. Moreover
our Lord's words, "It is I myself...a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye
see me have" (verse 39) was uttered according to verse 37 and 38 because the
disciples thought He was a spirit. Jesus, however absolutely disproved that
by offering His body as tangible evidence (verse 39, 40).
Sometimes Jehovah's Witnesses attempt to explain away these appearances of
Christ by asserting that He had a "spiritual body" (1 Corinthians 15:44) or
that He merely assumed different bodies to encourage His disciples, which
the
Witnesses say accounts for the fact that those who knew Him the best in life
did not recognize Him after His resurrection (John 20:11-16; Luke 24:15-30).
The Witnesses also argue that 1 Peter 3:18, which refers to Christ's
resurrection and states that He was "made alive in spirit" (literal Greek),
establishes their theory, but they are in error.
While it is true that Paul speaks of "a spiritual body" he nevertheless
calls
it a "body" (Greek "soma") and we have already seen how Christ possessed
"flesh and bones" (Luke 24:39). A spiritual body then is not "a spirit" as
the Witnesses make our, but a glorified, immortal, physical form possessing
certain spiritual characteristics or attributes (i.e., the ability to pass
through locked doors or vanish at will. John 20:19, 26; Luke 24:31)
Again, Jehovah's Witnesses' idea that because Mary Magdalene and the
disciples could not recognize Christ on three occasions "proves" that He had
assumed "different bodies" other than the one in which He died upon the
cross, is disposed of by Luke 24:16. Luke there tells us that when the
disciples encountered Jesus their eyes were kept from recognizing Him as a
direct act of Christ's will. When He finished His conversation, He allowed
their sense of vision to perceive who He really was; thus "their eyes were
opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight" (verse 31).
Finally, 1 Peter 3:18, far from "proving" that Jesus was raised a spirit as
the Witnesses insist, only proves that He was raised in or by the Spirit of
God as the Apostle Paul tells us in Romans 8:11. The main objections, then,
that Jehovah's Witnesses raise against the bodily resurrection of our Lord
are all thoroughly answered by the Scriptures themselves and represent no
real threat to historic Christian doctrine of the resurrection.
The Bible, therefore, does have mush to say about the resurrection of Christ
as we have seen, and nowhere supports the spirit-resurrection theory of
Jehovah's Witnesses. In fact, all of it contradicts their teaching.
To the sincere, zealous, yet misled members of Jehovah's Witnesses, the
Christian church must repeat the statement of our Lord Himself: "Why are ye
troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my
feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh
and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:38, 39).
The true teaching concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ does indeed
determine a person's eternal destiny (1 Corinthians 15:14, 17). For "If you
will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart
that God has raised him from among the dead, you will be saved" (Romans
10:9,
Literal Greek).
1. Let God Be True, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, p. 122,
Edition 1946.
2. The Kingdom is at Hand, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
p. 258.
3. Studies in the Scripture, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
p. 129, Vol 2.
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| User: "RedFox" |
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| Title: Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ |
09 Aug 2007 03:08:13 AM |
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In article <f9e0as$dic$1@news.utelfla.com>, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
May God bless,
Carl
Since chsristians believe that all things are created by God the Jaywits
too are of God
Who cares anyway - they aren't getting into MY pants
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| User: "Glenn" |
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09 Aug 2007 03:31:47 AM |
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RedFox wrote:
In article <f9e0as$dic$1@news.utelfla.com>, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
May God bless,
Carl
Since chsristians believe that all things are created by God the Jaywits
too are of God
Who cares anyway - they aren't getting into MY pants
YO! I don't care if they get into your pants, as long as they don't get
into my mind or my pockets!
As for the shill, Carl, he is static on the solar electromagnetic
spectrum... an unheard winter breeze, a bug on the windshield of life.
Glenn
--
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
Note, the site at xprt.net will close 1Sept07 and open as
www.thelittlebookopened.org [Key words:] "The Little Book";
Glenn McClary, servitum, gaedhealic, oldwetdog
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| User: "RedFox" |
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| Title: Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ |
09 Aug 2007 04:45:58 PM |
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In article <f9ejdk016oo@enews4.newsguy.com>, Glenn
<gamcclary@spiritone.com> wrote:
RedFox wrote:
In article <f9e0as$dic$1@news.utelfla.com>, "Carl"
<saints@nettally.com> wrote:
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
May God bless,
Carl
Since chsristians believe that all things are created by God the Jaywits
too are of God
Who cares anyway - they aren't getting into MY pants
YO! I don't care if they get into your pants, as long as they don't get
into my mind or my pockets!
As for the shill, Carl, he is static on the solar electromagnetic
spectrum... an unheard winter breeze, a bug on the windshield of life.
How true
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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09 Aug 2007 12:57:07 AM |
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:06:03 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
Dr. Walter Martin, probably the best authority on the Watchtower Bible And
Tract Society ever, exposes another false doctrine by the organization
further proving that it is not of God.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Carl,
Striking out against God's children again? Yep. You sure do that a
lot. Why don't you take a break from worshipping Dr Martin and talk
to a few JW's to find out what they really believe before you judge
them.
Was it Peter or Paul who declined worship and said something about
them only being a man. I wonder if Dr Martin would appreciate you
worshippping him as a god. Why don't you give him a call and say "Dr
Martin you are my god that I worship and advertise for." Are you
happy with me for making you my god? Don't you realize your worship
of these men makes them look bad?
Look at what the worship of men by John Weatherly and John Wolf (two
men you are very similar too in behavior) did to the reputations of
the men gods they worshipped. People think the teachers are frauds
because they are recommended by frauds.
As long as you continue to present yourself as arrogant, dishonest,
and hateful your behavior will be transfered to the men you quote.
After all, people think your are imitating your gods.
BB
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