| Topic: |
Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"oldwetdog" |
| Date: |
26 Oct 2006 03:30:43 PM |
| Object: |
KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS
Seeing that we as Christians make no man our enemy, how, then, can we
recognize those who have chosen to be our enemy?
Eph 6:12-18
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able
to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having
on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to
quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which
is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and
watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
What is the "armor of God" which Paul describes?
a) loins girt about with truth,
b) the breastplate of righteousness
c) feet shod with the preparation of the gospel
d) the shield of faith
e) the helmet of salvation
f) the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
CHRISTIAN WEAPONS
A Christian does use Truth and the Sword of the Spirit as weapons of war.
NOT CHRISTIAN WEAPONS
A Christian does not use lies, slander, ridicule or sophistry.
SATAN'S WEAPONS
What is this armor to defend us from? Paul mentions "the fiery darts of
the wicked."
What are these "fiery darts"? They are lies and slander, gossip and
false accusation, abusive and derogatory names, contempt and ridicule...
These are the darts of the enemy.
HOW WE RECOGNIZE OUR ENEMIES
When someone lies about what we have said and misinterprets our words to
falsely accuse us, then calls us vile and abusive names and ridicules
us, we know which god they serve.
When someone distorts the Word of God, and misinterprets His Word or
meaning; when they lie and say "the Bible says," when what they claim is
in His Word is not in His word; when they ridicule and slander those who
expose their lies then we know which god they serve.
When someone uses lies, slander, illogic and sophistry to distract from
the discussion because they can not refute the truth or the argument
against their false doctrine, then we know which god they serve.
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST
All of us, even if we do not agree in every point of every doctrine,
MUST stand together against those who use slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry -- which are the weapons of Satan.
If we do not stand together to oppose slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry, where then is our brotherhood in Christ?
owd
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
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| User: "Randy" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
26 Oct 2006 03:41:21 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST
All of us, even if we do not agree in every point of every doctrine,
MUST stand together against those who use slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry -- which are the weapons of Satan.
Below, is Brian's Garrison's response to Owd's "spiritual" warfare.
And notice that Owd said of Brian, "Brother, you have got a lot of
credit in my account...". So this is someone whose reputation Owd has
just endorsed. What did Brian have to say about who was promoting the
use of "lies" to accomplish their warfare?
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
Here is his response, in full:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:46:52 -0700,
in article <lqks10t8i220k3u4q84bu1dfr2pcfp53p2@4ax.com>,
Brian Garrison <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 23:16:34 -0800, oldwetdog
<old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote:
Brian Garrison wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
<fprimeaunothere@ndak.net> wrote:
"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s36r10pngvco3loutm74pp1q6kuranev88@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thnhim@nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)
Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...
However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...
I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War
From now to the end
it *is* war
From now until He comes,
It is war.
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
.
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| User: "Azaliah" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
27 Oct 2006 08:29:31 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:41:21 -0500, while bungee jumping,
Randy <pulpitfire@gmail.com> shouted thusly:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST
All of us, even if we do not agree in every point of every doctrine,
MUST stand together against those who use slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry -- which are the weapons of Satan.
Below, is Brian's Garrison's response to Owd's "spiritual" warfare.
And notice that Owd said of Brian, "Brother, you have got a lot of
credit in my account...". So this is someone whose reputation Owd has
just endorsed. What did Brian have to say about who was promoting the
use of "lies" to accomplish their warfare?
Glenn says the above and yet, promotes the use of evil tactics
below, in his so called, "spiritual war". (:
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
Here is his response, in full:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:46:52 -0700,
in article <lqks10t8i220k3u4q84bu1dfr2pcfp53p2@4ax.com>,
Brian Garrison <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 23:16:34 -0800, oldwetdog
<old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote:
Brian Garrison wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
<fprimeaunothere@ndak.net> wrote:
"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s36r10pngvco3loutm74pp1q6kuranev88@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thnhim@nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)
Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...
However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...
I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War
From now to the end
it *is* war
From now until He comes,
It is war.
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
..
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| User: "oldwetdog" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
27 Oct 2006 09:49:59 AM |
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Azaliah wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:41:21 -0500, while bungee jumping,
Randy <pulpitfire@gmail.com> shouted thusly:
Dave, show us where raping your wife does NOT contradict God's Word.
Show us, O magnificent lying sophist, how and where the Law of the Land
contradicts God's Word by making Spousal Rape a Crime...
Will you please show us, O lying servant of Satan, how a man refusing to
rape his wife has failed to follow God's Word?
owd
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| User: "Randy" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
27 Oct 2006 09:24:32 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:29:31 GMT,
in article <lc24k29ap6mla8bvuf0bsufpujg6cvoir2@4ax.com>,
Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:41:21 -0500, while bungee jumping,
Randy <pulpitfire@gmail.com> shouted thusly:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST
All of us, even if we do not agree in every point of every doctrine,
MUST stand together against those who use slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry -- which are the weapons of Satan.
Below, is Brian's Garrison's response to Owd's "spiritual" warfare.
And notice that Owd said of Brian, "Brother, you have got a lot of
credit in my account...". So this is someone whose reputation Owd has
just endorsed. What did Brian have to say about who was promoting the
use of "lies" to accomplish their warfare?
Glenn says the above and yet, promotes the use of evil tactics
below, in his so called, "spiritual war". (:
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
Here is his response, in full:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:46:52 -0700,
in article <lqks10t8i220k3u4q84bu1dfr2pcfp53p2@4ax.com>,
Brian Garrison <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 23:16:34 -0800, oldwetdog
<old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote:
Brian Garrison wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
<fprimeaunothere@ndak.net> wrote:
"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s36r10pngvco3loutm74pp1q6kuranev88@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thnhim@nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)
Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...
However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...
I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War
From now to the end
it *is* war
From now until He comes,
It is war.
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
And Owd has asked where these people are now, as if he's proud of the
fact some of them don't post in here anymore.
12ibqrvrjo73qad@corp.supernews.com
*************************************************************
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
Tell me, Randy,
Where is the Griz/Vera/Abby-Jeannette/Chayil/TBC Cult today
:-)
*************************************************************
And what is it this person (of whom Owd said "Brother, you have got a
lot of credit in my account"), said would drive him away from the
group? It was Owd's lying tactics of "spiritual" warfare. Yet Owd
seems happy about the fact his lying tactics have driven people out of
here.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
.
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| User: "oldwetdog" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
26 Oct 2006 04:26:10 PM |
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Randy wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
Randy, show us where raping your wife does NOT contradict God's Word.
Show us, O magnificent lying sophist, how and where the Law of the Land
contradicts God's Word by making Spousal Rape a Crime...
Will you please show us, O lying servant of Satan, how a man refusing to
rape his wife has failed to follow God's Word?
.
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| User: "Randy" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
26 Oct 2006 04:37:51 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST
All of us, even if we do not agree in every point of every doctrine,
MUST stand together against those who use slander, lies, ridicule, false
accusation and sophistry -- which are the weapons of Satan.
Below, is Brian's Garrison's response to Owd's "spiritual" warfare.
And notice that Owd said of Brian, "Brother, you have got a lot of
credit in my account...". So this is someone whose reputation Owd has
just endorsed. What did Brian have to say about who was promoting the
use of "lies" to accomplish their warfare?
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
Here is his response, in full:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:46:52 -0700,
in article <lqks10t8i220k3u4q84bu1dfr2pcfp53p2@4ax.com>,
Brian Garrison <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 23:16:34 -0800, oldwetdog
<old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote:
Brian Garrison wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
<fprimeaunothere@ndak.net> wrote:
"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:s36r10pngvco3loutm74pp1q6kuranev88@4ax.com...
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thnhim@nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)
Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...
However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...
I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War
From now to the end
it *is* war
From now until He comes,
It is war.
I'm incedulous.
What is being said is that we can lie (and what else?) to accomplish
our goal. No holds barred. The ends justify the means.
I cannot, and will not, agree. Our weapons are not carnal.
I've said all I will say on this. OWD, your own words convict you.
This is not right.
If this is how you folks believe we should conduct ourselves, that we
do not answer to a higher calling...then I am so out of here.
Be Encouraged,
-Brian
"Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above all."
--Augustine.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
.
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| User: "oldwetdog" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
26 Oct 2006 04:55:18 PM |
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Randy wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>,
Randy....show us where raping your wife does NOT contradict God's Word.
Show us, O magnificent lying sophist, how and where the Law of the Land
contradicts God's Word by making Spousal Rape a Crime...
Will you please show us, O lying servant of Satan, how a man refusing to
rape his wife has failed to follow God's Word?
Thanks,
.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: KNOWING YOUR ENEMY BY THEIR WEAPONS |
26 Oct 2006 10:09:13 PM |
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oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:12k29vjpo8gd6d1@corp.supernews.com:
Randy wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:30:43 -0700,
in article <12k26nmod2hrd7d@corp.supernews.com>, oldwetdog
<g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
Randy, show us where raping your wife does NOT contradict God's Word.
Show us, O magnificent lying sophist, how and where the Law of the
Land contradicts God's Word by making Spousal Rape a Crime...
Will you please show us, O lying servant of Satan, how a man refusing
to rape his wife has failed to follow God's Word?
OWD, have you seen his latest? It is all about chastising and
scourging...... *shudder*
Pangur
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