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User: "David Matthieu P.P."
Date: 02 Dec 2003 05:09:02 PM
Object: LEAVING BROWNSVILLE ASSEMBLY OF GOD
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/prod03.html
by Dr. Herb Babcock, Former Member of Brownsville Assembly Of God
I am presenting the background of our involvement in the Assemblies of God
so that the reader will recognize that we are knowledgeable, experienced,
and mature in our Christian walk. We have hidden God's Word in our hearts.
I was born into a Christian family and chose Jesus to be my Savior while I
was a small child in Sunday School class in the First Presbyterian Church in
Canton, Illinois.
In 1963 my wife and I and our infant son moved to Davenport, Iowa, so I
could attend Palmer College of Chiropractic. Intervarsity Christian
Fellowship had an active chapter there and I quickly became a part of it,
and that led me to visit several area churches. When I walked into the
Assembly of God church in Bettendorf, Iowa, I sensed the presence of the
Holy Spirit, so in 1965 I brought my family into fellowship there until I
graduated from college in 1967. The pastor was Rev. O. H. Hamilton.
Louisville, Kentucky, became our new home in 1967 and we immediately joined
the great church of Evangel Tabernacle under the ministry of Rev. W. L.
Rodgers, where I served as a deacon for fifteen years. We were totally
involved in nursery, Sunday School teaching, and choir. Since our church was
the largest Assembly of God in Kentucky, virtually all of the "big name"
evangelists and ministers came there. Many of the really large ministries of
today were in their formative stages when we became acquainted with them and
sat under their teaching. During these years I was active in Full Gospel
Businessmen's Fellowship International, also.
My wife and I took a family to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to meetings held by
Kathryn Kuhlman, and attended her meetings in other locations as well. We
visited the church in Orlando pastored by Benny Hinn, and on another
occasion attended a week long seminar in Carpenter's Church in Lakeland,
Florida. We ministered for three years in Christian Prison Ministry of
Kentucky.
Upon moving to Florida in 1983, we joined the First Assembly of God and were
steadfast there until October 1988 when we moved our membership to
Brownsville Assembly of God (BAG). It was a well established and growing
church, where we participated in many aspects of regular church activities,
especially the choir and drama presentations. We loved Rev. Kilpatrick and
were blessed by his presentation of God's Word. During our time there the
church continued to be a vital, growing facility in the city of Pensacola.
It certainly was not a cold or "dead" church and had grown steadily for
years.
On Father's Day, June 17, 1995, Rev. Kilpatrick introduced Evangelist Steve
Hill and said that he was available for one day while he was enroute to
scheduled meetings elsewhere. We had no previous announcements of his
coming. For several weeks leading up to this time; however, some changes had
been taking place, and some of the members of BAG had been traveling up to
Toronto meetings, even taking carloads and vanloads of members along. Mrs.
Kilpatrick made two trips accompanied by the wife of one of the church
officers. Rev. Kilpatrick started to drive up there one time, but his trip
was interrupted and he returned to Pensacola without making it to the
Toronto airport vineyard meeting. I saw no mention of this in his book. When
this series of meetings began in Pensacola, a lot of organization had to be
done in a hurry - namely, the formation of "prayer teams" and how to deal
with the people who came forward. The order of the day was: "That's how they
do it in Toronto."
In an effort to authenticate these meetings and the "impartation" the
evangelist displayed a collection of newspaper clippings (or copies of them)
and made reference to his extensive library of books pertaining to historic
revival meetings of former years. Meetings such as took place on Azusa
Street in California or in the Cane Ridge Hills of Kentucky. Steve Hill
alluded to those meetings and told us that this is the same kind of event,
yet having already declared that God is doing a "new thing." Nobody asked
which was correct: a "new thing" or an "old thing" again?
My family and I hardly ever missed a meeting for the five weeks we
participated. Over and over the evangelist told how he first received the
impartation from a vicar in the Anglican church in England. When they met,
Steve Hill said to the vicar, "We don't have to talk, just pray for me."
When Rev. Kilpatrick announced that God was going to move in our church and
"do a new thing", and that we would "lose hundreds, but gain thousands"; I
immediately thought of the Scriptures in Luke 15:4-7 where the shepherd
leaves ninety-nine sheep in a safe place and goes out to rescue the lost
one. The position announced by Rev. Kilpatrick is directly opposite of the
Scripture example. Incidentally, during the last meeting I attended at BAG,
not one Scripture was used. Recently, I met a local pastor (of another
denomination) who had visited the BAG meeting and he said that there was no
Scripture presented during the session he attended.
The word I have hidden in my heart is the Scripture in I John 4:1. "Beloved,
believe not every Spirit, but try the Spirit whether it be of God!" We
attended approximately 30 meetings and never once did the evangelist or
pastor even suggest that either one of them had made any effort whatever to
obey the Scriptures and try the spirits they are dealing with. That is the
reason I could not continue to be a part of his ministry. In fact, both the
evangelist and the pastor vehemently demanded that NO ONE question the
impartation, or anything said by the pastor or the evangelist. NO ONE should
DARE to come against "the man of God!" was repeated many times,
threateningly.
It is interesting how a claim regarding a prophecy attributed to Korean
Pastor Cho changed three times, each time becoming more specific until it
identified Pensacola as the city where a "great end-time revival" would
break out and spread throughout the world. Actually, I had heard of that
prophecy years before when we lived in Kentucky, and there was speculation
that Evangel Tabernacle would be the church where it was to start. The
prophecy didn't change . . . the telling of it did.
I was included in the prayer teams until we disassociated ourselves from
BAG. While on the prayer team, we were instructed to NOT pray in Jesus'
name. We were told to NOT pray for the needs of people. The only thing we
were to do was touch people on their forehead and say, "More, Lord!" and
keep repeating that until there was an "impartation" of the spirit being
promoted in the meetings. If the person did not respond in a reasonable
time, move on to someone else. Any deviation from the limited procedure
would result in being removed from the prayer team, which did happen to a
few individuals.
I had previously heard of the practice in some belief systems of chanting,
or repeating a phrase called a "mantra." That came to mind when we were told
to say only, "More, Lord!" over and over. In Luke 21:8 Jesus told the
disciples to take heed and not be deceived by people even though they claim
to come in His Name. In other words, situations will be presented to people
in such a believable way that people may be deceived.
God's Word tells us to hide His Word in our hearts that we might not sin
against Him. When we do that, we are strong in His Word and not easily
deceived or following every wind of doctrine. That is the meaning of the
Scripture verse: ". . . the joy of the Lord is your strength." (Nehemiah
8:10). It is a joy to Him when we are strong and victorious through rightly
dividing the Word.
As a result of all this, I am more aware than ever before and want to convey
to everyone the truth that each individual is solely responsible for his/her
right relationship with God. We each will stand individually before the
judgment seat. We MUST have knowledge of HIS word and exercise discernment.
Our eternal well-being depends on our choices.
"Beloved, believe not every Spirit, but try the Spirit whether it be of
God!" (I John 4:1).
"I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth." (III
John 4).
.

User: "Mark and Bev Tindall"

Title: Re: LEAVING BROWNSVILLE ASSEMBLY OF GOD 03 Dec 2003 01:09:45 AM
"David Matthieu P.P." wrote:

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/prod03.html
by Dr. Herb Babcock, Former Member of Brownsville Assembly Of God

I am a former member of pentecostal churches and their bondage too. "Free
at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty I'm free at last!"
The "Toronto Blessing" was a huge pente scam.
In the major pente churches in Sydney and Wollongoing (I've attended all of
them) contradictions from the pulpit were NEVER questioned. It was
considered a sin to question and use one's God given brain.

In fact, both the
evangelist and the pastor vehemently demanded that NO ONE question the
impartation, or anything said by the pastor or the evangelist. NO ONE

should

DARE to come against "the man of God!" was repeated many times,
threateningly.

This is VERY common in pente-ville!!! The pastas (Itallian noodles???) are
virtually authoritarian anal retentive mini-popes.

I had previously heard of the practice in some belief systems of chanting,
or repeating a phrase called a "mantra." That came to mind when we were

told

to say only, "More, Lord!" over and over. In Luke 21:8 Jesus told the
disciples to take heed and not be deceived by people even though they

claim

to come in His Name. In other words, situations will be presented to

people

in such a believable way that people may be deceived.

Yes! This is the Pente mantra which I satirise as "Hallelujah! Praise the
Lord! Jesus, Jesus, Jesus! Glory to God! Bless the Lord! Yabba-dabba-do!
Happy, happy, happy! Joy, joy, joy!" (repeat 60 million times). pentes
wrongly think this is some formn of praise. Would I be praising my wife if
I chanted 60 million times "HalleluBev! Praise the Wife! Bev, Bev, Bev!
Glory to Bev! Bless the Wife! Yabba-dabba-do! Happy, happy, happy! Joy, joy,
joy!"??? OF COURSE NOT!!!! ..........................SILLY LITTLE
PENTES!!!!

Our eternal well-being depends on our choices.

It does!!!! All the more reason to QUESTION and USE YOUR GOD GIVEN BRAIN!!!
That's why God gave you a brain! Unfortunately pentes do not use their
brains and do not ask enough questions. They are "sheeples" led by wolves.
David Matthieu P.P. ....How is Woz??? If you here from him, give him my
address, tell him I am thinking of him and having "fun with pentes" at
alt.christnet.christianlife. Woz is a great Aussie Christian artist!!!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Where Jesus is Bored ...
http://www.acc-growing-pente-dummies.doh
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
II Corinthians 10:4 -5 " ...for the weapons of our warfare are NOT WORLDLY
but have DIVINE POWER TO DESTROY STRONGHOLDS. WE DESTROY ARGUMENTS AND
EVERY PROUD OBSTACLE TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, AND TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE
to obey Christ ..."
************************
FUNDAMENTALISM (from Peter Cameron's "Fundamentalism and Freedom"
(Doubleday; Sydney: 1995. pp. 6-7)
Most Fundamentalists persuade themselves that they are imitating Christ,
even to the extent of making the farcical allegation that they share his
attitude to the infallibility of the Bible. But that apart, the Grand
Inquisitor illustrates perfectly the following features of Fundamentalists-
a distrust and fear of freedom; a belief in the importance of authority and
in controlling what people believe; a corre­sponding preference for
obedience rather than love; a desire to give people what they want rather
than the truth: a refusal to allow themselves to be in the least
disconcerted when they are confronted with the true nature of their
religion; and a readiness to persecute and exclude anyone who is of a
different persuasion.
To reduce that to convenient headings, the Fundamentalist is uncomfortable
with freedom, truth, and dissent; and very much at home with authority,
obedience, and conformity. But the most striking feature of the
Fundamentalist is that, whether he is conscious of it or not, his approach
results in the total contra­diction of what he professes to believe.
*********************************
Too much Kristyun Lite and no Christian substance!
.
User: "David Matthieu P.P."

Title: Re: LEAVING BROWNSVILLE ASSEMBLY OF GOD 03 Dec 2003 04:32:35 AM
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <m_b_tindall@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcd8c3c$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

David Matthieu P.P. ....How is Woz??? If you here from him, give him my
address, tell him I am thinking of him and having "fun with pentes" at
alt.christnet.christianlife. Woz is a great Aussie Christian artist!!!

Woz from Australia was among the first posters who detected that Griz was a
Fraud! Woz was young but he clearly understood the deceptive tactics of
Griz. The young Australian did not buy the phony discourse of Griz that God
sent him to take control of alt.christnet.christianlife. Woz made himself a
duty to regularly expose Griz and his Scams. He openly denounced the self
appointed "Originator", "Owner" and "Moderator" of the "New ACC" as an
Imposter. This was getting quite embarrassing for Griz who in the name of
Jesus repeatedly asked Woz to heave (ACC) alt.christnet.christianlife. On
the search engine Google there
are over one hundred recorded posts from Griz insulting the young poster and
asking him to leave ACC. Conjointly, Griz, TBC and Fervent cooked up the
accusation that Woz in reprisals was sending Viruses to their mail boxes.
Finally the so called leader of the "New ACC" proclaimed that Woz also
posted couple counterfeited messages using his poster name "Griz". Under the
pretense that Woz was using his posting ID, Griz with the help of an
individual called Brian from the Australian Internet Service Provider
Omninet, managed to get the phone number of Woz parents and contacted them.
I pasted below a post by Griz when he deceitfully acquired the personal
information of the Poster Woz whose real name isWarren:
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Griz wrote:

Warren,
This has gone far enough.
I trust my friend Brian at Omninet has talked to you father about this
already; and there are other actions in the process. You have done a very
serious thing by committing ID fraud and it is something that could end up
on your permanent record. Police everywhere are really starting to crack
down on it. Most country's intelligence agencies take a very dim view of

it

and are just itching to act.
If you stop pestering this NG I will cease all other actions against you

and

you will not have the embarassment of having to explain all the hullabaloo
to your dad.
Griz

After the disgusting maneuver of Griz pestering an Australian Family,
blackmailing and threatening their young son to stop him from posting on
this public newsgroup, the Master Manipulator had more dirty tricks in his
repertoire. To definitely get rid of this young but determined poster, Griz
illegally posed as a federal policeman of Canada, and called Australia
threatening Warren with prosecution for fraud by "stealing" a posting
nickname.
To the readers who may not see yet the big picture why Griz would do
anything to force discerning posters to leave ACC and why he is claiming
this Newsgroup is a Church, I will simply say this: do not be surprised, one
day Griz shall surely try to collect the tithes of this so called Ministry!
For the readers who may be interested in learning more about Griz
blackmailing this poster, I posted below several relevant posts:
From: "And you wonder why Woz was so disillusioned with you."
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Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Loving your enemies Griz style?
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Tell me that this is not true Griz.
Woz reports to me that he was contacted by the federal police of
Canada threatening prosecution for fraud - stealing of a nickname.
Is that loving your enemies? Using the world and what it stands for
to get what you want? What does loving your enemies mean?
Does it mean when the going gets tough you toss it out the window?
And what of me, Griz? You accused me of false name posting.
Have I received an apology for that lie?
Should I be as you are and use the federal police of Australia to
complain to your ISP for the falsification levelled at me? Or should I
love my enemies?
You forget, Woz also took my name and misrepresented it too.
Should I be like you Griz? Should I walk in the acknowledgement that
the ways of man are Lord? Or, should I walk in the acknowledgement
that Jesus is Lord?
Michael Christ
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Curse of Woz
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:18:40 -0400
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Hi Mike Horn.
Woz is a spirit-troll who is under discipline of ACC. We all know he twists
Scripture and context to his own agenda, ranting and raving like a man
possessed. I know he makes himself a very easy target for even a 3rd year
Sunday School student, but I would ask you to refrain from engaging him on
his own level.
Any posts directed at him should use small words of no uncertaintly to
transmit the message that the spirit he represents is unwelcomed here, that
we reject him and his words, and encourage him to leave our shore.
Thanks
Griz
ACC
woz, what you represent is not welcomed here. We do not heed your words, we
do not accept you as a messenger of Truth.
The disciples were admonished to depart any house, city, or region where
their were not accepted and their words heeded, and even Jesus himself left
Gersenes when requested to.
Do you reject this message of Christ?
If so, leave.
If no, leave anyways. Your power here is broken.
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Curses of Christianity
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:14:21 -0400
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Have you really nothing original to say woz? Is this the extent of your
repetoir?
You have been asked to follow Christ's example and leave where you are not
welcomed. You refuse.
Get behind us.
Griz,
ACC
The spirit-troll woz is under discipline from ACC. Please refrain from
posting to him no matter how he blusters and baits. Oh, and make sure your
virus definitions are up to date.
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: Surrender And Trust
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You have been officially asked to leave warren.
That you cannot follow Christ's example in this is to your own condemnation.
Griz
ACC
The spirit-troll woz is under sanction from ACC.
Please refrain from replying to him no matter how he rage, bait, and
bluster.
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: Remember that love is the true spiritual warfare
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Jesus Christ himself left Gerasenes when so-requested.
That you are uable to follow He who's name you claim to post in is very
telling.
The spirit-troll woz is under discipline from ACC. Please refrain from
replying to his posts, I urge you by the meekness of Christ.
Let him rage as he will. He is but a clanging gong.
Griz
ACC
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Just about iving in Faith - if you have no good works it means
that everything you are will disappear - get to work
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Two witnesses will come forward and testify that within hours of woz's first
public rebuke, several viruses suddenly showed up in the inboxes of those
who were the strongest in their outcry against him in Christ's name.
The spirit-troll known as woz is under discipline from ACC. Please do not
reply to him no matter how he rages. He is an invisible man. Let our
silence and our solidarity in the unity of the Holy Spirit speak volumes
against woz.
Griz
ACC
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Re:Legion exposed - Fraud confesses then gets nasty coz it's
been seen for what it is
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The spirit you post for is no welcomed here woz.
Do the godly thing - follow Christ's example and leave where you are not
welcomed. If you would like, I could have a truck-load of dust delivered to
your front door so you can practice shaking it off your feet against ACC.
Griz
The spirit-troll woz is under sanction by ACC for numerous attrocities
apparently committed in Jesus name. Name-calling and rampant cross-posting
to garner support, along with ignoring Scriptural context or creating it at
his will to support his agenda, and spiritual bullying.
Please refrain from responding to his posts. He is as an invisible man.
Let him rage.
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: Peace
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The spirit-troll woz is under official sanction from ACC for twisting
Scriptures, trying to confuse with OT prophecy, saying that the Holy Spirit
was unable to protect the integrity of God's word from the demon-Paul,
calling names, cross-posting in an attempt to curry the favour of men
towards his agenda and to import contentions into groups speaking against
him, trying to use the suffering of those posting genuine spiritual
questions to advance his agenda for his greater glory, rejecting Godly
leadership, refusing Biblical correction from multiple sources, and the
appearance of sending multiple viruses to those who he could not subvert to
his agenda. (there are 2 witnesses to this, but he maintains his innocence
even in the face of the fact that all attacks originated from his corner of
cyber-space)
He is as a man invisible. Please refrain from posting to him no matter how
he blusters or rejects God's ultimate authority in his life. Make sure your
virus definitions are up-to-date.
Griz
From: "Griz" <griz@cois.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Prophecy Paradox - Bible Predicts First Century Christians saw
the Second Coming and so shall all.
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so be it - then I shall have to cut your coat tail as I have done to Saul.

So be it woz.
For acts of disrespect against the Holy Spirit, in the form of implying you
are able to correct the mistakes God made by including the books of Paul in
the Bible, you are under official sanction by ACC.
When given the opportunity to walk away clean, even as Jesus modelled for us
in Gerasenes, you refused.
You have also been accused of name-calling, abusing the posts of those who
write in for help by mocking to your own agenda's glory, and show a
condemning guilt manifest in your need to defend yourself with vile
name-calling whenever the incident of sending viruses in revenge is
mentioned. Aren't you fond of saying a witness of 2 is all that is required
against a man? Both fervent and I confirm that viruses were received
(several in my case), just hours after a major confrontation with you - all
originating from your corner of cyber-space.
Leave woz. The spirit you represent is not welcomed here. Your words are
as nothing.
I would call upon all those posting to ACC to treat woz as invisible. His
words are as weighty as hot air and we hear them not.
Griz
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User: "Vera Six"

Title: Re: LEAVING BROWNSVILLE ASSEMBLY OF GOD 03 Dec 2003 06:37:29 AM
plonk
"David Matthieu P.P." <johnrevelation@yahoo.com>
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User: "David Matthieu P.P."

Title: Re: VERA 666 CRIED OUT LOUD... 03 Dec 2003 07:40:39 AM
"Vera Six" <verasixnospamnonono@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:bqkljp$6va$07$6@news.t-online.com...

plonk

"David Matthieu P.P." <johnrevelation@yahoo.com>

The word Penticostal is quite popular and is generally used to address weird
and shocking manifestations happening in Pentecostal Churches. The word
Penties is commonly used nowadays as a funny abbreviation for Penticostal
Believers.
To avoid reading reports on the Christian Newsgroups of appalled visitors
commenting about demons manifesting in "anointed" churches, the Penties who
used to consider themselves so spiritual on Usenet are now obligated to
daily update their Block Sender List.
In all level of society people are laughing at Penties, on Usenet posters
are having a lot of fun with the poor Penties who have not a single safe
newsgroup to hide. Readers who may not understand why even Christian posters
are also having fun with the Penties, please take the time to read these
verses:
1 Kings 25 to 28: And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one
bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the
name of your gods, but put no fire under. And they took the bullock which
was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from
morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice,
nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. And it
came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he
is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or
peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut
themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed
out upon them.
"Mark and Bev Tindall" <m_b_tindall@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcd8c3c$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

David Matthieu P.P. ....How is Woz??? If you here from him, give him my
address, tell him I am thinking of him and having "fun with pentes" at
alt.christnet.christianlife. Woz is a great Aussie Christian artist!!!

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User: "Misty"

Title: Re: LEAVING BROWNSVILLE ASSEMBLY OF GOD 03 Dec 2003 02:15:26 AM
..,
David Matthieu P.P. wrote:

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/prod03.html

by Dr. Herb Babcock, Former Member of Brownsville Assembly Of God

I am presenting the background of our involvement in the Assemblies of God
so that the reader will recognize that we are knowledgeable, experienced,
and mature in our Christian walk. We have hidden God's Word in our hearts.

I was born into a Christian family and chose Jesus to be my Savior while I
was a small child in Sunday School class in the First Presbyterian Church in
Canton, Illinois.

In 1963 my wife and I and our infant son moved to Davenport, Iowa, so I
could attend Palmer College of Chiropractic. Intervarsity Christian
Fellowship had an active chapter there and I quickly became a part of it,
and that led me to visit several area churches. When I walked into the
Assembly of God church in Bettendorf, Iowa, I sensed the presence of the
Holy Spirit, so in 1965 I brought my family into fellowship there until I
graduated from college in 1967. The pastor was Rev. O. H. Hamilton.

Louisville, Kentucky, became our new home in 1967 and we immediately joined
the great church of Evangel Tabernacle under the ministry of Rev. W. L.
Rodgers, where I served as a deacon for fifteen years. We were totally
involved in nursery, Sunday School teaching, and choir. Since our church was
the largest Assembly of God in Kentucky, virtually all of the "big name"
evangelists and ministers came there. Many of the really large ministries of
today were in their formative stages when we became acquainted with them and
sat under their teaching. During these years I was active in Full Gospel
Businessmen's Fellowship International, also.

My wife and I took a family to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to meetings held by
Kathryn Kuhlman, and attended her meetings in other locations as well. We
visited the church in Orlando pastored by Benny Hinn, and on another
occasion attended a week long seminar in Carpenter's Church in Lakeland,
Florida. We ministered for three years in Christian Prison Ministry of
Kentucky.

Upon moving to Florida in 1983, we joined the First Assembly of God and were
steadfast there until October 1988 when we moved our membership to
Brownsville Assembly of God (BAG). It was a well established and growing
church, where we participated in many aspects of regular church activities,
especially the choir and drama presentations. We loved Rev. Kilpatrick and
were blessed by his presentation of God's Word. During our time there the
church continued to be a vital, growing facility in the city of Pensacola.
It certainly was not a cold or "dead" church and had grown steadily for
years.

On Father's Day, June 17, 1995, Rev. Kilpatrick introduced Evangelist Steve
Hill and said that he was available for one day while he was enroute to
scheduled meetings elsewhere. We had no previous announcements of his
coming. For several weeks leading up to this time; however, some changes had
been taking place, and some of the members of BAG had been traveling up to
Toronto meetings, even taking carloads and vanloads of members along. Mrs.
Kilpatrick made two trips accompanied by the wife of one of the church
officers. Rev. Kilpatrick started to drive up there one time, but his trip
was interrupted and he returned to Pensacola without making it to the
Toronto airport vineyard meeting. I saw no mention of this in his book. When
this series of meetings began in Pensacola, a lot of organization had to be
done in a hurry - namely, the formation of "prayer teams" and how to deal
with the people who came forward. The order of the day was: "That's how they
do it in Toronto."

In an effort to authenticate these meetings and the "impartation" the
evangelist displayed a collection of newspaper clippings (or copies of them)
and made reference to his extensive library of books pertaining to historic
revival meetings of former years. Meetings such as took place on Azusa
Street in California or in the Cane Ridge Hills of Kentucky. Steve Hill
alluded to those meetings and told us that this is the same kind of event,
yet having already declared that God is doing a "new thing." Nobody asked
which was correct: a "new thing" or an "old thing" again?

My family and I hardly ever missed a meeting for the five weeks we
participated. Over and over the evangelist told how he first received the
impartation from a vicar in the Anglican church in England. When they met,
Steve Hill said to the vicar, "We don't have to talk, just pray for me."

When Rev. Kilpatrick announced that God was going to move in our church and
"do a new thing", and that we would "lose hundreds, but gain thousands"; I
immediately thought of the Scriptures in Luke 15:4-7 where the shepherd
leaves ninety-nine sheep in a safe place and goes out to rescue the lost
one. The position announced by Rev. Kilpatrick is directly opposite of the
Scripture example. Incidentally, during the last meeting I attended at BAG,
not one Scripture was used. Recently, I met a local pastor (of another
denomination) who had visited the BAG meeting and he said that there was no
Scripture presented during the session he attended.

The word I have hidden in my heart is the Scripture in I John 4:1. "Beloved,
believe not every Spirit, but try the Spirit whether it be of God!" We
attended approximately 30 meetings and never once did the evangelist or
pastor even suggest that either one of them had made any effort whatever to
obey the Scriptures and try the spirits they are dealing with. That is the
reason I could not continue to be a part of his ministry. In fact, both the
evangelist and the pastor vehemently demanded that NO ONE question the
impartation, or anything said by the pastor or the evangelist. NO ONE should
DARE to come against "the man of God!" was repeated many times,
threateningly.

It is interesting how a claim regarding a prophecy attributed to Korean
Pastor Cho changed three times, each time becoming more specific until it
identified Pensacola as the city where a "great end-time revival" would
break out and spread throughout the world. Actually, I had heard of that
prophecy years before when we lived in Kentucky, and there was speculation
that Evangel Tabernacle would be the church where it was to start. The
prophecy didn't change . . . the telling of it did.

I was included in the prayer teams until we disassociated ourselves from
BAG. While on the prayer team, we were instructed to NOT pray in Jesus'
name. We were told to NOT pray for the needs of people. The only thing we
were to do was touch people on their forehead and say, "More, Lord!" and
keep repeating that until there was an "impartation" of the spirit being
promoted in the meetings. If the person did not respond in a reasonable
time, move on to someone else. Any deviation from the limited procedure
would result in being removed from the prayer team, which did happen to a
few individuals.

I had previously heard of the practice in some belief systems of chanting,
or repeating a phrase called a "mantra." That came to mind when we were told
to say only, "More, Lord!" over and over. In Luke 21:8 Jesus told the
disciples to take heed and not be deceived by people even though they claim
to come in His Name. In other words, situations will be presented to people
in such a believable way that people may be deceived.

God's Word tells us to hide His Word in our hearts that we might not sin
against Him. When we do that, we are strong in His Word and not easily
deceived or following every wind of doctrine. That is the meaning of the
Scripture verse: ". . . the joy of the Lord is your strength." (Nehemiah
8:10). It is a joy to Him when we are strong and victorious through rightly
dividing the Word.

As a result of all this, I am more aware than ever before and want to convey
to everyone the truth that each individual is solely responsible for his/her
right relationship with God. We each will stand individually before the
judgment seat. We MUST have knowledge of HIS word and exercise discernment.
Our eternal well-being depends on our choices.

"Beloved, believe not every Spirit, but try the Spirit whether it be of
God!" (I John 4:1).

"I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth." (III
John 4).


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