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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Craig Chilton"
Date: 28 Nov 2003 12:18:01 PM
Object: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!!
FIRST, there was the post, in which I made the prediction...
right after Viagra come onto the market. To which I alluded
in the NEXT item in this posting, below. But just when one
thinks they can count on "Google's" newsgroup search
engine, it let's one down, or I'd have repeated it here. Has
anyone else discovered that, once in awhile, no matter how
hard they try to finad an article that ythey, themselves, had
posted, Google couldn't FIND it? Frustrating!!! I have never
cancelled any of my own posts (and obviously, no one else's)
from Google, so I'm mystified that these occasional gaps in their
archives -- which shouldn't be there -- manifest themselves!
Anyway, on to the next step ---
THEN there was THIS post...
From: Craig Chilton (xanadu222@home.com)
Subject: Partly OFF-Topic, but FUNNY! Edell comments on
Viagra & the Porn Industry
Newsgroups: alt.abortion, talk.abortion, alt.bible, alt.christnet,
alt.abortion.inequity
Date: 2001-07-08 10:52:09 PST
Viagra Good For The Porn Industry?
by Dr. Dean Edell
July 06, 2001 --
This is a hysterical article; I don’t know if you’ll appreciate
this. This is the changing nature of an industry I’m sure most of us
don’t think about. It’s the making of X-rated films and how Viagra
has changed this industry.
They profile an old-timer here -- an actor in the industry. He’s 43
years old. I don’t want to tell you his name -- it’s printed in the
newspaper, but I feel kind of weird about saying it on the show.
One director teases him and calls him "blue tongue" because has
popped so many Viagra. The actor says, "I’m not ashamed of it.
I rely on Viagra for many shoots. People know I use it. It doesn’t
make me any less of a man or a person."
Of course, we know what the drug is supposed to be used for, but
I'm afraid it has become a recreational drug. This actor says here has
taken as much as 100 mg a day and he knows of peers of his who
use even more and with the current pace of hectic film production.
Actors are taking the pill for every shoot, turning the industry into
an unwitting mass experiment.
Some actresses and directors are getting fed-up with it, rolling
their eyes whenever they see the tell-tale signs of a Viagra actor,
which includes a glazed look. Is that one of the side effects? Can
any of you listeners out there let me know if this glazed look is a
side effect?
A veteran actress says they’re using drugs designed for men with
particular problems, and these guys don’t have that particular
problem, yet the pill has created dozens of male stars and eliminated
so many annoying production snafus that industry players say
they are willing to put up with the occasional lapses and potential
health problems.
"I put Viagra right up there with the polio vaccine as far as
making my job easier," says a director. There is another hilarious
quote that Viagra "has brought an industrial level of quality control
to a business that is notoriously vulnerable to the whims of biology."
That’s a great line.
It says here, even the best porn actor can have an off day. One
actor says he uses Viagra whenever a scene lasts for more than an
hour or if he has to use a condom because he just can’t work with
them. Yet another actor, a 34-year-old, uses the drug if he has to
perform intimate acts when he’s not in the mood or tired or sick that
day.
The top porn film studios turn out more than 30 films a month --
that’s one a day. So you can see how Viagra could push up
production and make it possible to keep up a film a day schedule.
Wow!
Source: Los Angeles Times, July 6, 2001
Copyright© 1994-2000 HealthCentral.com.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
To which I responded ---
Note the line, above, that said:
"Of course, we know what the drug is supposed to
be used for, but I'm afraid it has become a recreational
drug."
Some of you in these groups may remember that I predicted that
Viagra would lead to a NEW Sexual Revolution for many of the SAME
people who enjoyed the FIRST one so much. I'm happy to see that it
seems to be turning out that way.
Just ANOTHER thing that can ruin the whole day of the RRR Cult's
control-freaks. (Anything that accomplishes THAT is GOOD! I *LOVE*
it!!)
-- Craig Chilton
And THEN, **THIS** verification that the new Sex revolution is
INDEED underway ---
From NBC Nightly News -- Thanksgiving Day, 2003 ---
Doctors Blame Fewer Sexual Taboos on
a Little Blue Pill: Viagra.
Reported by NBC's Fred Francis
NOTE: To see this report, for as long as it's on their website,
go to: http://www.msnbc.com/news/998849.asp?0sl=-10
and click on "Play Video." The transcript of the report is
NOT yet posted there, as this is written, so I transcribed the
report below from a tape I made of last night's broadcast.

November 27, 2003 --
The Center for Disease Control says that people over 50
represent 12% of all new AIDS cases in this country, and yet,
many don't think they're at risk.
The reason -- fewer sexual taboos. And, say many
doctors, that little blue pill. Viagra has led to more sexual
freedom.
"It makes you feel alive! And it *stimulates* you! And if
you knew what was goin' on behind doors with us senior
citizens... WOW!" [ -- Unidentified but very enthusiastic
man who appeared to be around 60.]
74-year-old Sue Saunders knows. She has the virus.
And calls many older Viagra users, "Condominium Casanovas."
[She said:] "Going from Marge one night to Carolyn the
next night, Suzie the next night... take Betty on a cruise...
go over and eat pie with Joanie -- man!! THESE guys are
ACTIVE!
Sue *and* Cheryl say their parteners *refuse* to wear
condoms. [Cheryl repeats what her partner said to her
about that:] "What do I need a condom for? [You] can't
get pregnant."
[ ... ]
[A female doctor was identified by name, but it was a
name she probably was given when she lived in India, and
I was unable to guess at its spelling. The reporter said:]
"Infectious disease practice is full of new virus cases... many
were by Viagra users." [Doctor said:] "We have seen the
surge of HIV among the older population -- more so since
these enhancing dugs have come out."
Florida is trying to end the surge with education... 74-year-
old marilyn brand is known around Palm Beach as "the
condom granny." [She's shown holding up a condom in
front of a classroom of seniors, saying, "These now come
in colors..." One of her students asks, "Do you have any
*samples?*" The class laughs.] Marilyn has a basketful of
samples, and much frank advice, but it will be another year
before new statistics are out, before doctors will know if
these educational programs are working.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
People increasingly are learning that their BEST shot at
enjoying recreational/casual sex WITHOUT consequences
is by practicing Safe Sex well. So NBC just did seniors a
great service by reminding them that this is JUST important
for *them*!
UNTIL seniors have learned that sufficiently, the RRR cult's
"consequences-freaks" can hatefully drool over that AIDS rate.
But as seniors learn, that will probably taper off dramatically.
Then the RRR cult's loons will probably start wailing and
moaning again about the supposed decline of "morality."
To which I say to them: TOUGH!!! The Dark Ages of
sexual repression are EXTINCT.

-- Craig Chilton

.

User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 04 Dec 2003 08:14:04 AM
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:38:21 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

[...]

Fine, loser. I'm only 62...

No way!

YES way! (Sheesh, Kris! Did you think
I was some sort of OLD fart or somethin'?)

(LOL)

I thought you were **younger**, you OLD fart. ;-)

I do recollect that you mentioned having been in the freedom
fighting sector for over three decades -- prodigies like that often
start very,very young, and I just thought you were one of those. ;-)))))

LOL!! Well, in my case not all THAT young!
(THIS post corrects one of a few minutes ago, where I'd mixed
up the years of some events. So if THAT version shows up, just
ignore it.)
Recall that abortion became legal in New York State (where I
lived at the time) in the '60s. It had a close shave when the
legislature tried to repeal that, and it was saved only by Governor
Nelson Rockefeller... an egalitarian Republican BEFORE the RRR
cultists came along and loused up that party! -- VETOED that
measure! (All this *before* Roe vs. Wade's emancipation of ALL
American women, in 1973.)
That close call RENEWED my resolve as as a Pro-Choice
activist, from which I have never swayed. (I was in high school,
when I first became one.) By the early '60s, I was in college,
and spent much of my free time in the ranks of the Civil Rights
workers, fighting for THAT cause, in Mississippi. Where
Mafioso-appearing white thugs called us obscene names and
even threatened outr lives, right out in plain sight on the streets
of downtown Jackson. (To see modern Jackson, you'd never
guessed such mind pollution ever could have prevailed there!)
It was life on the edge... and I **LOVED** watching those
hateful losers DO just that: LOSE!
Just as much as I'm loving it as the mindless bigotry and hate
of the Anti-Choicers/RRR cultists/homophobes' agendas circle
the Drain of Extinction!

-- Craig Chilton

.
User: "HateFeminism"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 04 Dec 2003 03:58:51 PM
Craig Chilton wrote:


On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:38:21 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:


[...]

Fine, loser. I'm only 62...


No way!


YES way! (Sheesh, Kris! Did you think
I was some sort of OLD fart or somethin'?)

(LOL)


I thought you were **younger**, you OLD fart. ;-)

I do recollect that you mentioned having been in the freedom
fighting sector for over three decades -- prodigies like that often
start very,very young, and I just thought you were one of those. ;-)))))


LOL!! Well, in my case not all THAT young!

(THIS post corrects one of a few minutes ago, where I'd mixed
up the years of some events. So if THAT version shows up, just
ignore it.)

Recall that abortion became legal in New York State (where I
lived at the time) in the '60s. It had a close shave when the
legislature tried to repeal that, and it was saved only by Governor
Nelson Rockefeller... an egalitarian Republican BEFORE the RRR
cultists came along and loused up that party! -- VETOED that
measure! (All this *before* Roe vs. Wade's emancipation of ALL
American women, in 1973.)

That close call RENEWED my resolve as as a Pro-Choice
activist, from which I have never swayed. (I was in high school,
when I first became one.) By the early '60s, I was in college,
and spent much of my free time in the ranks of the Civil Rights
workers, fighting for THAT cause, in Mississippi. Where
Mafioso-appearing white thugs called us obscene names and
even threatened outr lives, right out in plain sight on the streets
of downtown Jackson. (To see modern Jackson, you'd never
guessed such mind pollution ever could have prevailed there!)
It was life on the edge... and I **LOVED** watching those
hateful losers DO just that: LOSE!

Just as much as I'm loving it as the mindless bigotry and hate
of the Anti-Choicers/RRR cultists/homophobes' agendas circle
the Drain of Extinction!


-- Craig Chilton


Chilton makes up for his complete lack of evidence to support his position
with enthusiasm.
.
User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 04 Dec 2003 05:08:35 PM
"HateFeminism" <kill.feminism@now.org> wrote in message
news:3FCFAE1B.67E994D7@now.org...

Craig Chilton wrote:


On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:38:21 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:


[...]

Fine, loser. I'm only 62...


No way!


YES way! (Sheesh, Kris! Did you think
I was some sort of OLD fart or somethin'?)

(LOL)


I thought you were **younger**, you OLD fart. ;-)

I do recollect that you mentioned having been in the freedom
fighting sector for over three decades -- prodigies like that often
start very,very young, and I just thought you were one of those.

;-)))))


LOL!! Well, in my case not all THAT young!

(THIS post corrects one of a few minutes ago, where I'd mixed
up the years of some events. So if THAT version shows up, just
ignore it.)

Recall that abortion became legal in New York State (where I
lived at the time) in the '60s. It had a close shave when the
legislature tried to repeal that, and it was saved only by Governor
Nelson Rockefeller... an egalitarian Republican BEFORE the RRR
cultists came along and loused up that party! -- VETOED that
measure! (All this *before* Roe vs. Wade's emancipation of ALL
American women, in 1973.)

That close call RENEWED my resolve as as a Pro-Choice
activist, from which I have never swayed. (I was in high school,
when I first became one.) By the early '60s, I was in college,
and spent much of my free time in the ranks of the Civil Rights
workers, fighting for THAT cause, in Mississippi. Where
Mafioso-appearing white thugs called us obscene names and
even threatened outr lives, right out in plain sight on the streets
of downtown Jackson. (To see modern Jackson, you'd never
guessed such mind pollution ever could have prevailed there!)
It was life on the edge... and I **LOVED** watching those
hateful losers DO just that: LOSE!

Just as much as I'm loving it as the mindless bigotry and hate
of the Anti-Choicers/RRR cultists/homophobes' agendas circle
the Drain of Extinction!


-- Craig Chilton



Chilton makes up for his complete lack of evidence to support his position
with enthusiasm.

No, Fuckstain.
What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of your *****
when compared to the same stench he encountered when he marched for civil
rights in the 60's. He recognizes the same ignorance that you shamelessly
display here. It is the same stupid ***** used to keep "niggers in their
place," but with a few minor alterations to address "uppity women" rather
than "those colored people."
To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not study
history are doomed to repeat it.
Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains specifically
for black. Craig Chilton, on the other hand, saw that ***** and was disgusted
by it, especially when it was all based on the fanatical rantings of a few
influential idiots.
You fit that pattern. Just look at the clusterfuck of a handle that you use,
and your obvious dislike for women who think for themselves and do not get
your approval before making their own life-altering decisions.
Go ***** yourself, Loser.
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.
User: "Sneechres"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 05 Dec 2003 09:48:29 AM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw.com> wrote in message news:<T7Pzb.86535$do1.51308@twister.austin.rr.com>...

"HateFeminism" <kill.feminism@now.org> wrote in message
news:3FCFAE1B.67E994D7@now.org...

Craig Chilton wrote:


On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:38:21 -0500,
Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:


[...]

Fine, loser. I'm only 62...


No way!


YES way! (Sheesh, Kris! Did you think
I was some sort of OLD fart or somethin'?)

(LOL)


I thought you were **younger**, you OLD fart. ;-)

I do recollect that you mentioned having been in the freedom
fighting sector for over three decades -- prodigies like that often
start very,very young, and I just thought you were one of those.

;-)))))


LOL!! Well, in my case not all THAT young!

(THIS post corrects one of a few minutes ago, where I'd mixed
up the years of some events. So if THAT version shows up, just
ignore it.)

Recall that abortion became legal in New York State (where I
lived at the time) in the '60s. It had a close shave when the
legislature tried to repeal that, and it was saved only by Governor
Nelson Rockefeller... an egalitarian Republican BEFORE the RRR
cultists came along and loused up that party! -- VETOED that
measure! (All this *before* Roe vs. Wade's emancipation of ALL
American women, in 1973.)

That close call RENEWED my resolve as as a Pro-Choice
activist, from which I have never swayed. (I was in high school,
when I first became one.) By the early '60s, I was in college,
and spent much of my free time in the ranks of the Civil Rights
workers, fighting for THAT cause, in Mississippi. Where
Mafioso-appearing white thugs called us obscene names and
even threatened outr lives, right out in plain sight on the streets
of downtown Jackson. (To see modern Jackson, you'd never
guessed such mind pollution ever could have prevailed there!)
It was life on the edge... and I **LOVED** watching those
hateful losers DO just that: LOSE!

Just as much as I'm loving it as the mindless bigotry and hate
of the Anti-Choicers/RRR cultists/homophobes' agendas circle
the Drain of Extinction!


-- Craig Chilton



Chilton makes up for his complete lack of evidence to support his position
with enthusiasm.


No, Fuckstain.

LOL.

What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of your *****
when compared to the same stench he encountered when he marched for civil
rights in the 60's.

Well, except he never marched for civil rights in the sixties. Do you
believe whatever he tells you? That would be stupid considering that
Craig is a proven liar.
He recognizes the same ignorance that you shamelessly

display here.

Neither he nor you are capable of recognizing ignorance since you are
too ignorant to do so.
It is the same stupid ***** used to keep "niggers in their

place," but with a few minor alterations to address "uppity women" rather
than "those colored people."

No one cares about "uppity women."
The difference between you and rational people is that we can see the
similarities in the stench of YOUR ***** compared to the stench of
the ***** that went on in communist Russia. Yours is a culture of
death and destruction, because there are ALWAYS exceptions when stains
like you talk about rights. Rights for everyone except...the unborn,
people with disabilities, people who's "quality of life" doesn't live
up to your expectations.

To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not study
history are doomed to repeat it.

I always find it deeply amusing, and sad, when leftists repeat cute
sound bytes they don't understand, worse yet completely ignore.
"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a new
morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there
is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All
else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against
which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great
destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole
morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new
morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out
first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece
and Rome." --Theodore Roosevelt, state of the union address, 1905

Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains specifically
for black.

There weren't that many of them, anyway.
Craig Chilton, on the other hand, saw that ***** and was disgusted

by it,

No, he wasn't. I doubt he saw a single fountain with a racist sign on
it. If he had, maybe he would have been affected enough to stop
promoting the same idea over and over in a different disguise.
It used to be "the evil white oppressor." Now, Craig's new boogeyman
is "Christian cult members." See what I mean when I say there's
always an exception? People like you learned from the race-baiting of
others and just used it to further your own purposes. It was wrong
then, and it's wrong now despite how you try to change it.
You're an ignorant troglodyte of the first order. No wonder you shill
for Craig, he's the dumbest and most dishonest hack here.
--S
.
User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 05 Dec 2003 06:32:44 PM
On 5 Dec 2003 07:48:29 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw.com> wrote:

"HateFeminism" <kill.feminism@now.org> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

[...]

What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of your *****
when compared to the same stench he encountered when he marched
for Civil Rights in the 60's.

Well, except he never marched for civil rights in the sixties. Do you
believe whatever he tells you? That would be stupid considering that
Craig is a proven liar.

Lying certainly is YOUR long suit, Screeches. Both TO people and
ABOUT them, behind their backs. Turds in wedding party punchbowls
would be preferable to the presence of a vile person like you.
DO let us know if you can ever PROVE any lie that I may have
told in a post to BE a lie. I've put up more than 10,000 posts over
the last 7 or 8 years, and Google still has MOST of 'em. So you have
a LOT of material to work with. And all you'll do is FAIL in that
effort. (What a jerk!)
Assuming you might be old enough, it's no surprise that I probably
never ran across *you* when I was in Mississippi, back then. All you're
good for, based on the way you carry on in here, is putting DOWN people
and lying about them. (Or maybe I did. With YOUR mentality, you
probably would have been one of the segregationists.)

He recognizes the same ignorance that you shamelessly
display here.

Neither he nor you are capable of recognizing ignorance since
you are too ignorant to do so.

Looks like there's ONE thing you're good at: Lying through your
teeth. Is that ALL you're good for?

It is the same stupid ***** used to keep "niggers in their place,"
but with a few minor alterations to address "uppity women" rather
than "those colored people."

No one cares about "uppity women."

You should know. From all the evidence you've given us in here,
you're probably as accomplished as a dead vampire bat.

The difference between you and rational people is that we can see
the similarities in the stench of YOUR ***** compared to the stench of
the ***** that went on in communist Russia. Yours is a culture of
death and destruction, ...

MORE of your pathological lying -- since WE who are PRO-Choice
ensure that the qualities of millions of women's lives will never again
be disrupted by hateful ANTI-Choicers like you who defend worthless
and unwanted non-sentient entities that are the equivalent in all
important ways (human, unique, and living *potential* people) while not
giving a rat's ***** for REAL people. Stalin probably would have loved
having you as a sidekick. A Russian friend of mine is the daughter of
one of Stalin's aides, and he told her what Stalin REALLY had been
like. With your attitude, it probably would have been love at first
sight between you and Stalin.

...because there are ALWAYS exceptions when [people] like you
talk about rights. Rights for everyone except... [reproductive-
process entities that are unwanted by hosts having no desire to
gestate them]...

... Which don't have rights. Don't deserve rights. No more than a
BRICK deserves rights. And never will have rights as long as SENSIBLE
people comprise the population's majority.

...people with disabilities,

Bullcrap!!!

people who's "quality of life" doesn't live up to your expectations.

Another lie. And YOU don't give a rat's ***** for people who's quality
of life doesn't meet YOUR expectations, as you PROVE just by being a
control-freakish, Anti-Choice schmuck. You don't care if women's lives
are as miserable as yours *probably* is. Nothing counts for you but
those worthless z/e/fs you so ludicrously WHINE about.

To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not
study history are doomed to repeat it.

I always find it deeply amusing, and sad, when leftists...

(LOL!!!! That's Screeches' pet -- lying -- word for sensible and
fair-minded egalitarians.)

...repeat cute sound bytes they don't understand, worse yet
completely ignore.
"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a
new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there
is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All
else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against
which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great
destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole
morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new
morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out
first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece
and Rome." --Theodore Roosevelt, state of the union address, 1905

Upon skimming the above paragraph at first glance, I thought I saw
FDR's name. Then I thought, "It CAN'T be!! FDR was **infinitely** too
intelligent to have made so cockamamie and absurd a statement!!"
And -- yep. Sure enough, it *wasn't* FDR. I'm sure glad Teddy
Roosevelt isn't President today. With a retro attitude like that, he'd
have been even WORSE (hard as that is to believe!) than our current
Warmonger-in-Thief, Bush Lite! (Hopefully, ALL out Presidents from 2005
on will be more like Clinton, who RESPECTED individual liberties *most*
of the time. (Except, in his case, for signing that asinine "DOMA" bill.)

Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains
specifically for black.


There weren't that many of them, anyway.

ONE would have been one too many. That's the problem with
losers like you... you gloss over hatefulness toward REAL people.

Craig Chilton, on the other hand, saw that ***** and was
disgusted by it,

No, he wasn't. I doubt he saw a single fountain with a racist sign
on it. If he had, maybe he would have been affected enough to stop
promoting the same idea over and over in a different disguise.

Looking back on it, I can't recall seeing such a water fountain, per
se, in Mississippi back then. But there were so many things that WERE
designated that way, I could easily have seen them without giving
paricular conscious thought to them. The problem of racism was
RAMPANT down there. (With your hateful attitude toward real
people, you'd probably have loved every minute of it. Paradise
lost, for you?)

It used to be "the evil white oppressor." Now, Craig's new
boogeyman is "Christian cult members."

ANOTHER lie. I have made it very clear that there is NOTHING
Christian about the RRR cult, or being one of its adherents. They
have NOTHING to do with the fair-minded, tolerant ACTUAL Christians.
Although the RRR cultists (i.e., "Religious" Radical Right; "Pharisaical"
would make a good substitute/synonym for "Religious" in this case)
mostly CLAIM to ro Christians, their numbers are comprised of
PSEUDO-Christians who cloak themselves in the last dregs of
respectability that Christianity has after being painted with the
RRR's brush for so long, and DELUDED Christians who have been
conned/brainwashed into believing the false and lying dogmas of
the cult. (Such as there being anything wrong with abortion; the Bible
speaks not one word against abortion. And, such as their being
self-appointed ENFORCER wanna-bes of Biblical precepts -- actual
and misperceived -- upon society in general; the Bible neither
appointed nor authorized *any* such Gestapo. The closest it comes
is "church discipline' -- which applies ONLY to **Christians** on the
part of *other* Christians.)
<tripe-snip>

You're an ignorant troglodyte of the first order.

You should get over that habit of talking to yourself in the mirror,
as you apprently are doing now. You might actually TEACH yourself
something that way. (Perish forbid!)

No wonder you shill for Craig, he's the dumbest and most
dishonest hack here.

ROTFL!!!!!!! **That** outright lie from a person who clearly
may BE just that!
-- Craig Chilton

.
User: "Sneechres"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 06 Dec 2003 05:56:04 PM
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fd422bd.31112413@netnews.mchsi.com>...

On 5 Dec 2003 07:48:29 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw.com> wrote:

"HateFeminism" <kill.feminism@now.org> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

Krisblake <Krisblakemy2luvs@aol.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:



[...]

What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of your *****
when compared to the same stench he encountered when he marched
for Civil Rights in the 60's.


Well, except he never marched for civil rights in the sixties. Do you
believe whatever he tells you? That would be stupid considering that
Craig is a proven liar.


Lying certainly is YOUR long suit, Screeches.

Considering that you can't point to a single lie I've ever told (save
accusing me of lying about your lying), I'll let my past posts about
you speak for themselves.
Both TO people and

ABOUT them, behind their backs.

Everything here is public, so nothing I say about someone else is
"behind anyone's back."

Turds in wedding party punchbowls
would be preferable to the presence of a vile person like you.

Why, have you comparison experience? Were you the one that fished the
surprise out of the champagne fountain?

DO let us know if you can ever PROVE any lie that I may have
told in a post to BE a lie.

You lie about marching for civil rights.
You lie about being a "defender of rights."
You lied about your personal appearance.
You lie about your personal success.
You lie about holding a position within your state Republican party.
You lied about being a member of Mensa.
And that's just off the top of my head.
Considering that the personal appearance, Mensa, Republican Party
membership, and civil rights lies were actually proven, your other
claims that cannot be proven are thus assumed to be lies. Once a
liar, Craig, always a liar. Until you yield to your God and reform,
and I don't see that happening.
I've put up more than 10,000 posts over

the last 7 or 8 years, and Google still has MOST of 'em.

And it seems I would only need to comb a small fraction of the latest
to catch you lying.

Assuming you might be old enough, it's no surprise that I probably
never ran across *you* when I was in Mississippi, back then.

You wouldn't have because you weren't there.

He recognizes the same ignorance that you shamelessly
display here.


Neither he nor you are capable of recognizing ignorance since
you are too ignorant to do so.


Looks like there's ONE thing you're good at: Lying through your
teeth. Is that ALL you're good for?

It is the same stupid ***** used to keep "niggers in their place,"
but with a few minor alterations to address "uppity women" rather
than "those colored people."


No one cares about "uppity women."


You should know.

I don't care about them. I care that they obey the law.

From all the evidence you've given us in here,
you're probably as accomplished as a dead vampire bat.

A dead vampire bat would have done more to advance humanity in its
life than you have.

The difference between you and rational people is that we can see
the similarities in the stench of YOUR ***** compared to the stench of
the ***** that went on in communist Russia. Yours is a culture of
death and destruction, ...


MORE of your pathological lying --

Really, you're the one that cheers at the deaths of human beings if
they don't happen to conform to your standard of living.
since WE who are PRO-Choice

ensure that the qualities of millions of women's lives will never again
be disrupted

You don't assure anything of the kind. That's because you think
abortion is the only cure for people's problems. That's not
supporting choice, it's supporting abortion.
by hateful ANTI-Choicers like you who defend worthless

and unwanted non-sentient entities

See how you judge the quality of human life? "Worthless and
unwanted"...how positively Orwellian.
that are the equivalent in all

important ways (human, unique, and living *potential* people) while not
giving a rat's ***** for REAL people. Stalin probably would have loved
having you as a sidekick.

Stalin was a political leftist who did not tolerate dissenting
attitudes like mine.
A Russian friend of mine is the daughter of

one of Stalin's aides,

You don't have any friends.
and he told her what Stalin REALLY had been

like.

What a sad fantasy life you lead.

...because there are ALWAYS exceptions when [how about Bolsheviks] like you
talk about rights. Rights for everyone except the unborn


... Which don't have rights.

They should.

Don't deserve rights.

Neither do you.
No more than a

BRICK deserves rights.

You're a brick.

...people with disabilities,


Bullcrap!!!

You want to kill Terri Schiavo for committing the unpardonable sin of
being disabled.
I was in a restaurant yesterday with my husband and we were seated
next to a father who was with his son who appeared to be in his
twenties or so.
The son was severely retarded.
My husband and I watched as the father very carefully draped towels on
his son's chest so he could be fed; he carefully cleaned his son's
mouth when he drooled, and fed his son himself with food and medicine.
The son, unable to speak except for gurgling sounds, was clearly
happy when his father hugged and spoke to him (which the father did
frequently as if his son was totally normal). It was a very touching
display of love and commitment. They obviously had a very deep
relationship.
If you had your way, that son never would have been born, and even now
you'd say he should be killed.

people who's "quality of life" doesn't live up to your expectations.


Another lie.

All you've done here is pass judgements about the quality of other
people's lives, as if YOU have been granted arbitration in deciding
who is or is not worthy.
When did God die and leave you in charge?
<clip>

To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not
study history are doomed to repeat it.


I always find it deeply amusing, and sad, when leftists...


(LOL!!!! That's Screeches' pet -- lying -- word for sensible and
fair-minded egalitarians.)

You are a leftist in every sense of the word. Why don't you want to
use the terminology, since it is correct?
You can deal with "fetus" but not leftist. You're such a control
freak you feel you must have the final say over the terms of the
debate down to the words used.

...repeat cute sound bytes they don't understand, worse yet
completely ignore.


"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a
new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there
is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All
else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against
which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great
destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole
morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new
morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out
first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece
and Rome." --Theodore Roosevelt, state of the union address, 1905


Upon skimming the above paragraph at first glance, I thought I saw
FDR's name. Then I thought, "It CAN'T be!! FDR was **infinitely** too
intelligent to have made so cockamamie and absurd a statement!!"

He was so intelligent he didn't care that the United States government
was overrun with, your favorite, Russian spies and traitors including
FDR's close associate Alger Hiss.
http://www.parida.com/ddd1.html

And -- yep. Sure enough, it *wasn't* FDR.

Yes, FDR hadn't the room to preach morality while selling America to
the Bolsheviks.
I'm sure glad Teddy

Roosevelt isn't President today.

Of course you are. You'd ***** your pants with anger if another George
Washington was elected. You'd vote for Satan before you'd vote for
Jesus Christ.
<clip>

Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains
specifically for black.


There weren't that many of them, anyway.


ONE would have been one too many.

There aren't any now.

Craig Chilton, on the other hand, saw that ***** and was
disgusted by it,


No, he wasn't. I doubt he saw a single fountain with a racist sign
on it. If he had, maybe he would have been affected enough to stop
promoting the same idea over and over in a different disguise.


Looking back on it, I can't recall seeing such a water fountain, per
se, in Mississippi back then.

Duh.
But there were so many things that WERE

designated that way, I could easily have seen them without giving
paricular conscious thought to them.

You don't give conscious thought to anything.

The problem of racism was
RAMPANT down there.

Well, that is until you showed up and slayed all the hateful bigots
with one swipe of your Sword of Justice.
Thanks, God-Craig, for saving America!
LOLOLOLOLOL!

It used to be "the evil white oppressor." Now, Craig's new
boogeyman is "Christian cult members."


ANOTHER lie.

Oh, so now you like "Christian cult members" (whoever they are)?
I have made it very clear that there is NOTHING

Christian about the RRR cult, or being one of its adherents.

So now you've decided you can determine the condition of other
people's hearts.
I thought that was God's job. Good thing he's got you as his
spokesman here on earth!
They

have NOTHING to do with the fair-minded, tolerant ACTUAL Christians.

Really, like who? You and your unnamed friends?

<clip>

You're an ignorant troglodyte of the first order.


You should get over that habit of talking to yourself in the mirror,
as you apprently are doing now.

My monitor sees right through you.

You might actually TEACH yourself
something that way. (Perish forbid!)

You shouldn't encourage me to be learning new things, considering that
I already know enough to roast you and your ridiculous stories and
lies every time we meet here. You only want to make it worse for
yourself??

No wonder you shill for Craig, he's the dumbest and most
dishonest hack here.


ROTFL!!!!!!! **That** outright lie from a person who clearly
may BE just that!

I only hope that what I've contributed to your exposure as an ignorant
fraud and a liar, combined with that contributed by others, will
quickly become common knowledge to regulars and noobs alike. It's
already been documented and a search will readily reveal it.
--S
.
User: "Marie A."

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 06 Dec 2003 09:07:25 PM
(Sneechres) wrote in message news:<1414fd53.0312061556.cbab49@posting.google.com>...
Deafening applause! As usual, Sneech, you nailed this hippie-dippee,
gray-haired, wispy pony-tailed, ear ring-wearing, pompous latter day
60s leftist poseur for the Bolshevist murderer he is. What a total
fraud, what an evil ***** this guy is whilst he prances around in
bankrupt moralisms of a *Golden Age," an age so defined by his
generation, a generation which did more harm to this country than any
before it. They now sit back, most of them sipping on bottled water
and white wine congratulating themselves on their new-found health
habits, forgetting their own youthful excesses which near brought this
country to its knees.
Keep kicking their asses, Sneech. WE LUV YA, GUUUURRRL!
Cordially, Marie
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 06 Dec 2003 10:27:01 PM
(Marie A.) wrote in
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Keep kicking their asses

....
do your lies, like the one described in the appended post
often lead you to have violent thoughts?
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uterus either.
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LetEmEatWMDs@yahoo.com (Marie A.) wrote in
news:1dc521ed.0311250855.3fa5d67b@posting.google.com:

Uh, sir/madam, please keep top posting! It will get your
comments read as opposed to them being buried six pages deep
into a thread nobody is going to bother scrolling down into.
Those who complain about the practice, like this Keegan twit,
also complain about snipping

since i have been posting in this newsgroup since it was created,
you should be able to find one instance of my complaining about
snipping, right?
of course if you are just blatantly lying again, you need not
respond with such evidence.
*chuckle*
.

User: "Sneechres"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 07 Dec 2003 01:00:26 AM
(Marie A.) wrote in message news:<85f06f0c.0312061907.1cb513bb@posting.google.com>...

sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message news:<1414fd53.0312061556.cbab49@posting.google.com>...

Deafening applause!

*takes bow*
Thank you, thank you very much.
As usual, Sneech, you nailed this hippie-dippee,

gray-haired, wispy pony-tailed, ear ring-wearing, pompous latter day
60s leftist poseur for the Bolshevist murderer he is.

LOLOL! Good ones.
The best insult towards Craig I ever read was by a poster called
Truth. He said:
"Hit the lights! Hit the camera! It's the Craig show and his millions
of
readers adore him!
"Craig, this is not a primetime television show and maybe 15 people
will read
your posts in a day and most will giggle and say 'what a
moron/*****/dickweed/idiot/*****/girlie man'."
8lshd5$bgn$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net
I thought I would bust a vein laughing. In fact, I'm LOL right now.
See Truth's sig in the same post:
"Year 3000:
Anthropologists today discovered a tribe from the 20th century.
Scientists
say they were identified by the way their heads were firmly planted in
their
asses. They call this tribe "Pro-Choice". They were known to be
brainless
and lifeless. Most spent many hours a day gritting their teeth and
fantasizing about dead babies. Others spent most of their lives
posting the
exact same posts on primitive Internet newsgroups. Most of the posts
have
been recovered, look for them under the "Patrick L Chilton" file in
the
'Morons and Losers' folder in the 20th century USENET archive."
What a total

fraud,

He's a hypocrite and a proven liar.
Since I know he's around right now, I'll expose his latest so he can
see me beat his *****.
I was going to save this for its own thread but this is good enough.
Craig claimed to be a member of Mensa.
I emailed them. They wrote back to me a few days ago. His name does
not appear in their files.
What a shock.
what an evil ***** this guy is whilst he prances around in

bankrupt moralisms of a *Golden Age," an age so defined by his
generation, a generation which did more harm to this country than any
before it. They now sit back, most of them sipping on bottled water
and white wine congratulating themselves on their new-found health
habits, forgetting their own youthful excesses which near brought this
country to its knees.

Considering what Craig does for a living, and the hobbies he supports,
I doubt bottled water and wine are in his budget.

Keep kicking their asses, Sneech. WE LUV YA, GUUUURRRL!

You too, girlfriend! *hugs and air kisses*
--S
.

User: "golddodgearies"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 07 Dec 2003 08:48:32 AM
(Marie A.) wrote in message news:<85f06f0c.0312061907.1cb513bb@posting.google.com>...
[snip] murderer [snip]
You got it now. 'M-u-r-d-e-r-e-r', not 'liberal'.
.
User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 07 Dec 2003 11:05:45 AM
"golddodgearies" <golddodgearies@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:44e87bc2.0312070648.2da566b6@posting.google.com...

LetEmEatWMD@yahoo.com (Marie A.) wrote in message

news:<85f06f0c.0312061907.1cb513bb@posting.google.com>...


[snip] murderer [snip]

You got it now. 'M-u-r-d-e-r-e-r', not 'liberal'.

You sure are.
.

User: "Krisblake"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 07 Dec 2003 09:00:21 AM
On 7 Dec 2003 06:48:32 -0800,

(golddodgearies) wrote:

LetEmEatWMD@yahoo.com (Marie A.) wrote in message news:<85f06f0c.0312061907.1cb513bb@posting.google.com>...

[snip] murderer [snip]

She is.
.



User: "Craig Chilton"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 06 Dec 2003 11:25:30 PM
On 6 Dec 2003 15:56:04 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw.com> wrote:

[...]

What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of
your ***** when compared to the same stench he encountered
when he marched for Civil Rights in the 60's.

Well, except he never marched for civil rights in the sixties. Do you
believe whatever he tells you? That would be stupid considering that
Craig is a proven liar.

Lying certainly is YOUR long suit, Screeches.

Considering that you can't point to a single lie I've ever told (save
accusing me of lying about your lying), I'll let my past posts about
you speak for themselves.

DO let us know if you can ever PROVE any lie that I may have
told in a post to BE a lie.

NOW we all are about to be treated to one of the DUMBEST things
"Sneechres" has EVER done in here. She claimed that I wouldn't be able
to point to a single lie she's ever told. THEN she procedes to provide
with an actual LIST of many of her most blatant ones!! (Reminds me of
that story in the news a couple of days ago where a thief was holding up
a liquor store and proceeded to take both the money from the till, and a
bottle of booze. The clerk said he couldn't take the hooch because
he was to young... and proceeded to CARD the thief before allowing
him to steal the bottle. After writing the info from the thief's driver's
license down "for their records," the clerk let him leave with the money
and the booze. (And of course, the thief was then arrested in his home,
shortly afterward.)
THAT'S how dumb "Sneechres" is, for GIVING me the following
list of her most blatant and hateful lies about me.
ROTFL!!!! What an ignorant tool !!

You lie about marching for civil rights.

No I didn't. (I'll deny each lie as she tells it, and with those
denials goes THIS blanket challenge to her to PROVE the lie
she *claimed* that *I* had told.) Mississippi, 1963-4.

You lie about being a "defender of rights."

ROTFL!!!! I defend abortion rights, and the right of gays to have
EQUAL rights, in there groups constantly. (You are a TOTAL fool!)

You lied about your personal appearance.

When? Hell, there's even a picture of me on the back of
some of my books!

You lie about your personal success.

Well, let's see. I own two book publishing companies, a job
placement service, am a frequent guest on most of the radio and
TV stations across the USA and Canada (and once even in
Moscow, Russia in-studio), and LOVE every minute of my work.
How successful does a person need to BE? (ROTFL!!)
Meanwhile, we have no reason to think *you* are anything
more than a malconted and hateful LOSER.

You lie about holding a position within your state Republican party.

I am currently an elected member of the Republican Party
Central Committee of Black hawk County, Iowa, and have been
a Republican convention delegate.

You lied about being a member of Mensa.

No I didn't, although that's no big deal. One of every 50 people
in the population qualifies. As STUPID as you obviously are, your
command of English suggests that even *you* might qualify. (If so,
you are one of the best examples I've ever run across of a mind that's
totally going to waste.)

And that's just off the top of my head.

POINTED head, based on your abject IDIOCY!

Considering that the personal appearance, Mensa, Republican
Party membership, and civil rights lies were actually proven, ...

MORE of your lying bullcrap. My guess is that you are a totally
UNaccomplished, sour-grapes loser.
And therefore a complete joke.
<LIE-snip>

I've put up more than 10,000 posts over the last 7 or 8
years, and Google still has MOST of 'em.


And it seems I would only need to comb a small fraction of
the latest to catch you lying.

Knowing you, if you COULD, you WOULD. (Lots of luck!!
You'll NEED it!)
[ ... ]

From all the evidence you've given us in here,
you're probably as accomplished as a dead vampire bat.

A dead vampire bat would have done more to advance humanity
in its life than you have.

I've defended people's personal liberties from hateful bigots like
you for more than 40 years, in various ways. All you can do is WHINE
about that, and post vile rantings AGAINST personal liberties.
That probably adds up to;
Dead vampire bat -- 100
"Sneechres" -- 0

The difference between you and rational people is that we can see
the similarities in the stench of YOUR ***** compared to the stench of
the ***** that went on in communist Russia. Yours is a culture of
death and destruction, ...


MORE of your pathological lying --

Really, you're the one that cheers at the deaths of human beings if
they don't happen to conform to your standard of living.

Yeah? When?

...since WE who are PRO-Choice ensure that the qualities of millions
of women's lives will never again be disrupted...

You don't assure anything of the kind.

I didn't say *I*. I said *WE*. And we DO ensure that you
Anti-Choicers will NEVER have your way with your vicious
agenda against women.

That's because you think abortion is the only cure for
people's problems.

Wrong. There are LOTS of cures for people's problems.
Abortion is merely ONE of those. But as long as hateful loons
attack it, we'll defend it.

That's not supporting choice, it's supporting abortion.

SUPPORTING, most assuredly. Telling women that they
don't have JUST as much right to gestate to term if *that* is
their choice, no. Pro-CHOICERS don't care WHICH choice
women make, as long as it is THEIR choice, unfettered and
uncoerced.

...by hateful ANTI-Choicers like you who defend worthless
and unwanted non-sentient entities...

See how you judge the quality of human life? "Worthless and
unwanted"...how positively Orwellian.

I value and defend all of the human life that HAS value. Unwanted
entities of the reproductive process have NONE. And the rights of women
outrank the MISperceived rights that *you* so stupidly seek to accord to
the equivalent of gametes, by roughly infinity to one.

...that are the equivalent in all important ways (human, unique,
and living *potential* people) while not giving a rat's ***** for REAL
people. Stalin probably would have loved having you as a sidekick.

Stalin was a political leftist who did not tolerate dissenting
attitudes like mine.

With you, he'd probably have made an exception. You are as morally
hateful as he was. Your only danger probably would have come from his
possible perception of you as a rival.

A Russian friend of mine is the daughter of one of Stalin's aides,

You don't have any friends.

LOL!!! I have *lots* of friends. But I can't really imagine that
a hatemonger like you would have any. Except, possibly, among
people who are losers just like you, support-group style.

...and he told her what Stalin REALLY had been like.

What a sad fantasy life you lead.

No fantasy. I'm telling you what SHE told US. She was one of the
leaders on each of the Volga River cruises I took in 1998 and 1999.

...because there are ALWAYS exceptions when [how about
Bolsheviks] like you talk about rights. Rights for everyone except
[reproductive-process entities].

... Which don't have rights.

They should.

They shouldn't, any more than rocks and bricks should. And the
Pro-Choice majority will NEVER permit that, any more than egalitarians
will ever allow segregation to return.

Don't deserve rights.

Neither do you.

Stupid loser. What a joke!!

...people with disabilities,

Bullcrap!!!

You want to kill Terri Schiavo for committing the unpardonable
sin of being disabled.

Terri told her husband when she was still perfectly well that she
would never want to be kept alive in a vegetative state. YOU and
your fellow hateful losers want to prolong her mental ENTRAPMENT
in a useless body. You are VICIOUS.

I was in a restaurant yesterday with my husband and we were seated
next to a father who was with his son who appeared to be in his
twenties or so.

The son was severely retarded.

My husband and I watched as the father very carefully draped
towels on his son's chest so he could be fed; he carefully cleaned
his son's mouth when he drooled, and fed his son himself with food
and medicine.

The son, unable to speak except for gurgling sounds, was clearly
happy when his father hugged and spoke to him (which the father did
frequently as if his son was totally normal). It was a very touching
display of love and commitment. They obviously had a very deep
relationship.

So do people with their pets who can't do any more than that.
However, the man's son was responsive, and able to communicate
a willingness to have that relationship, rather than die. Terri has NO
such advantage. Apples and oranges.

people who's "quality of life" doesn't live up to your expectations.

Another lie.

All you've done here is pass judgements about the quality of other
people's lives, as if YOU have been granted arbitration in deciding
who is or is not worthy.

Such AS?

When did God die and leave you in charge?

YOU are the one who doesn't give a rat's ***** for people's rights.

To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not
study history are doomed to repeat it.

I always find it deeply amusing, and sad, when leftists...

(LOL!!!! That's Screeches' pet -- lying -- word for sensible and
fair-minded egalitarians.)

You are a leftist in every sense of the word. Why don't you want
to use the terminology, since it is correct?

Because it's outmoded and meaningless in today's context. It
referred primarily to Communism. A STUPID accusation to make
of people today, except, perhaps, for a handful of convicted spies.

You can deal with "fetus" but not leftist.

See above. And "fetus" is still an ACCURATE term. UNLIKE
referring to them (except in an anticipatory manner) as "babies."

You're such a control freak you feel you must have the final
say over the terms of the debate down to the words used.

Wrong again. YOU are the control freak because you don't
give a rat's ***** for people's rights. And if you don't like to have
your verbiage criticized, all you need to do is use ACCURATE
and HONEST terminology.

...repeat cute sound bytes they don't understand, worse yet
completely ignore.
"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a
new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there
is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All
else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against
which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great
destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole
morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new
morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out
first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece
and Rome." --Theodore Roosevelt, state of the union address, 1905


Upon skimming the above paragraph at first glance, I thought I saw
FDR's name. Then I thought, "It CAN'T be!! FDR was **infinitely** too
intelligent to have made so cockamamie and absurd a statement!!"

He was so intelligent he didn't care that the United States government
was overrun with, your favorite, Russian spies and traitors including
FDR's close associate Alger Hiss.

See below, about FDR.

http://www.parida.com/ddd1.html

And -- yep. Sure enough, it *wasn't* FDR.

Yes, FDR hadn't the room to preach morality while selling America to
the Bolsheviks.

FDR made mistakes at Yalta, but probably only due to his
being too ill by then to be sufficiently forceful and rational. He
and Churchill did a WONDERFUL job of managing the war.

I'm sure glad Teddy Roosevelt isn't President today.

Of course you are. You'd ***** your pants with anger if another
George Washington was elected. You'd vote for Satan before
you'd vote for Jesus Christ.

Bullcrap!!! But as presidents go, the LAST thing we need are any
more hypermoralists who don't respect and defend people's personal
liberties.

Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains
specifically for black.

There weren't that many of them, anyway.

ONE would have been one too many.

There aren't any now.

Right. Segregation is gone. Just like the EQUALLY-hateful and
bigoted movement of Anti-Choice WILL be.

Craig Chilton, on the other hand, saw that ***** and was
disgusted by it,

No, he wasn't. I doubt he saw a single fountain with a racist sign
on it. If he had, maybe he would have been affected enough to stop
promoting the same idea over and over in a different disguise.

Looking back on it, I can't recall seeing such a water fountain, per
se, in Mississippi back then. But there were so many things that WERE
designated that way, I could easily have seen them without giving
paricular conscious thought to them.

You don't give conscious thought to anything.

I defend people's rights and you're a hateful moron.
That's Craig, 100 and "Sneechres," zero.

The problem of racism was RAMPANT down there.

Well, that is until you showed up and slayed all the hateful bigots
with one swipe of your Sword of Justice.

Thanks, God-Craig, for saving America!

Many thousands of people freed the South from segregation. I was
happy to be a part of that. Something a hateful loser like you couldn't
even BEGIN to comprehend.

It used to be "the evil white oppressor." Now, Craig's new
boogeyman is "Christian cult members."

ANOTHER lie.

Oh, so now you like "Christian cult members" (whoever they are)?

There's nothing *Christian* about the hateful RRR cult, as I pointed
out before. The RRR cult is a slap in the face to Christianity. ---

I have made it very clear that there is NOTHING
Christian about the RRR cult, or being one of its adherents.

So now you've decided you can determine the condition of other
people's hearts.

The Bible says that "by their FRUITS" (actions) we shall know them.
Their fruits are rotten to the core: Hatred and bigotry.

They have NOTHING to do with the fair-minded, tolerant
ACTUAL Christians.

Really, like who? You and your unnamed friends?

Like MOST Americans. Per gallup, 83% of Americans are professed
Christians, and Americans are PRO-Choice, 2-1. Do the math.

You're an ignorant troglodyte of the first order.

You should get over that habit of talking to yourself in the mirror,
as you apprently are doing now.

My monitor sees right through you.

Apparently its vision is as myopic as yours is.

You might actually TEACH yourself something that way.
(Perish forbid!)

You shouldn't encourage me to be learning new things,
considering that I already know enough to roast you and your
ridiculous stories and lies every time we meet here. You only
want to make it worse for yourself??

All you have proven is how abjectly IGNORANT and
dishonest you are.

No wonder you shill for Craig, he's the dumbest and most
dishonest hack here.

ROTFL!!!!!!! **That** outright lie from a person who clearly
may BE just that!

<remaining hate-tripe snipped>
-- Craig Chilton

.
User: "Sneechres"

Title: Re: LOL!!! Just as I Predicted: Sex Revolution #2 has ARRIVED!! 07 Dec 2003 03:49:27 PM
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fd8b74c.4772276@netnews.mchsi.com>...

On 6 Dec 2003 15:56:04 -0800,
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton <

> wrote:

"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw.com> wrote:



[...]

What Craig notices is the distinct similarity in the stench of
your ***** when compared to the same stench he encountered
when he marched for Civil Rights in the 60's.


Well, except he never marched for civil rights in the sixties. Do you
believe whatever he tells you? That would be stupid considering that
Craig is a proven liar.


Lying certainly is YOUR long suit, Screeches.


Considering that you can't point to a single lie I've ever told (save
accusing me of lying about your lying), I'll let my past posts about
you speak for themselves.


DO let us know if you can ever PROVE any lie that I may have
told in a post to BE a lie.


NOW we all are about to be treated to one of the DUMBEST things
"Sneechres" has EVER done in here.

Craig, were you aware your picture is all over the internet?
http://www.pacificsites.com/~lakenews/LCFP%20Graphics/head_up_ass.gif
You should tell people to ask for permission before they post your
likeness.
She claimed that I wouldn't be able

to point to a single lie she's ever told.

You might could find something I said that was factually incorrect.
I've been here for a long time. Statistically speaking it wouldn't be
unrealistic, as a human being, for me to make a mistake or two. If
you find them, and correct them, I'll accept the correction. However,
if I said something incorrect it was not on purpose.
Feel free to comb my posts and look for something. As far as I can
remember, many of my posts are just corrections to your stupidity,
anyway.
THEN she procedes to provide

with an actual LIST of many of her most blatant ones!!

Um, no, fucktard, those are YOUR lies. You can't even spin
convincingly, you know that?
<clip>

You lie about marching for civil rights.


No I didn't.

Yes, you did. You lie about everything else. Your story about being
a "civil rights crusader," is just a little too overblown to be
realistic. Since there's not a shred of evidence of it, and you've
blatantly lied about so many of your personal accomplishments, this
one goes into the "Craig's Tall Tales To Make Himself Look Good" file.

(I'll deny each lie as she tells it,

Doesn't matter. The claim is yours to support. Since you can't, then
it's a garbage claim that means nothing.
and with those

denials goes THIS blanket challenge to her to PROVE the lie
she *claimed* that *I* had told.)

The burden of proof is on you, *****. When you claim something
about yourself as factual, you'll have proof to back it up.
I'll be waiting. I issue retractions, you know.

Mississippi, 1963-4.

Only in your addled mind.

You lie about being a "defender of rights."


ROTFL!!!!

Indeed, I can name a whole list of "rights" you don't support,
including the right to own private property, the right of association,
educational freedom, etc etc.

I defend abortion rights,

Indeed, you're pro-abortion.

and the right of gays to have
EQUAL rights,

They do, but you do nothing to defend anything about "gays" save
squawking more garbage here on Usenet.

You lied about your personal appearance.


When?

October of 2001 when you were presumably describing your hair.

Hell, there's even a picture of me on the back of
some of my books!

One of the pictures of you with your head outside of your ***** was on
the internet. I've seen it. Considering how old it is, and your
hairstyle in the photo, when compared with your claim about your hair
here:
3bc329c3.302092100@news.wtrlo1.ia.home.com
the two do not match.

You lie about your personal success.


Well, let's see.

Indeed.

I own two book publishing companies,

....whose publishing jobs you can count on one hand, none of which
would sell on the five dollar outdoor rack at Borders. Really.
a job

placement service,

You should place yourself in a job.
am a frequent guest on most of the radio and

TV stations across the USA and Canada (and once even in
Moscow, Russia in-studio),

So? Anyone can book TV airtime.

and LOVE every minute of my work.

It's a good thing.

How successful does a person need to BE? (ROTFL!!)

Successful enough not to have to lie about what great deals you get on
second-hand decade-old vehicles, maybe. Successful enough to buy a
laptop computer and a compact-disc player, maybe.

Meanwhile, we have no reason to think *you* are anything
more than a malconted and hateful LOSER.

You can think whatever you want. Your penchant for fantasizing has
been well-established.

You lie about holding a position within your state Republican party.


I am currently an elected member of the Republican Party
Central Committee of Black hawk County, Iowa, and have been
a Republican convention delegate.

No you aren't. I checked. The replies to emails I sent to your state
Republican party confirmed it.
WHERE'S WALDO, I mean, CRAIG?
http://www.blackhawkcountygop.com/?page=leadership&lvl=5
Can anyone find Craig on this website?

You lied about being a member of Mensa.


No I didn't,

Yes you did. The reply to the email I sent to them requesting a
confirmation on your membership stated that you didn't exist in their
database.

although that's no big deal.

It's a lie. And your religion says bearing false witness is a sin.
I'm frankly a bit surprised you haven't just come out and claimed to
be a decorated Vietnam vetaran considering that it's become
fashionable to be one these days.

One of every 50 people
in the population qualifies.

You couldn't qualify for the special Olympics.
As STUPID as you obviously are, your

command of English suggests that even *you* might qualify.

I have zero interest in Mensa.
(If so,

you are one of the best examples I've ever run across of a mind that's
totally going to waste.)

Not being a member of Mensa is not a waste of a mind.

Considering that the personal appearance, Mensa, Republican
Party membership, and civil rights lies were actually proven, ...


MORE of your lying bullcrap.

My email inquiries proved two of the above, and mere observation
proved one.
If you were of a mind, feel free to email

and post the response here confirming your position with them. I'm
not going to do it; I already know what the answer will be, and I've
already emailed enough people about you.
Here's a hint for next time, Craig: If you're going to lie, don't do
it in such a way that it's verifiable.

I've put up more than 10,000 posts over the last 7 or 8
years, and Google still has MOST of 'em.


And it seems I would only need to comb a small fraction of
the latest to catch you lying.


Knowing you, if you COULD, you WOULD.

Dearest Nutbar, I *have.* Spin spin spin, deny deny deny. The PROOF
of your lying is all right here in black and white for everyone to
see. And you positively cannot STAND it.
Thanks for the early Christmas present.

From all the evidence you've given us in here,
you're probably as accomplished as a dead vampire bat.


A dead vampire bat would have done more to advance humanity
in its life than you have.


I've defended people's personal liberties

No, you haven't.
<clip>

The difference between you and rational people is that we can see
the similarities in the stench of YOUR ***** compared to the stench of
the ***** that went on in communist Russia. Yours is a culture of
death and destruction, ...


MORE of your pathological lying --


Really, you're the one that cheers at the deaths of human beings if
they don't happen to conform to your standard of living.


Yeah? When?

The Terri Schiavo thread and every time you shill for abortion.

...since WE who are PRO-Choice ensure that the qualities of millions
of women's lives will never again be disrupted...


You don't assure anything of the kind.


I didn't say *I*.

You included yourself in a group you are not a member of. Again.
<clip>

That's because you think abortion is the only cure for
people's problems.


Wrong.

Really. Then why do pregnant women need abortion if it's not the
solution to their problems?

There are LOTS of cures for people's problems.

Well then abortion isn't all that necessary.
Thanks for clearing that up.

That's not supporting choice, it's supporting abortion.


SUPPORTING, most assuredly.

As everyone on here has been saying.
Telling women that they

don't have JUST as much right to gestate to term if *that* is
their choice, no. Pro-CHOICERS don't care WHICH choice
women make, as long as it is THEIR choice, unfettered and
uncoerced.

Why do you coerce women to abort?

...by hateful ANTI-Choicers like you who defend worthless
and unwanted non-sentient entities...


See how you judge the quality of human life? "Worthless and
unwanted"...how positively Orwellian.


I value and defend all of the human life that HAS value.

Who died and made you the decision maker on who has value and who
doesn't?

Unwanted
entities of the reproductive process have NONE.

Says who?
<clip>

...that are the equivalent in all important ways (human, unique,
and living *potential* people) while not giving a rat's ***** for REAL
people. Stalin probably would have loved having you as a sidekick.


Stalin was a political leftist who did not tolerate dissenting
attitudes like mine.


With you, he'd probably have made an exception.

No he wouldn't. I'm a political conservative, which means I favor
smaller government, free market capitalism, and the right to life.
Stalin was a leftist who wanted to control businesses, the political
process, farmers, everyone. I would have ended up in a death camp or
starving. The prospect of which, I'm sure, gladdens your miniscule
heart this Christmas season since I'm sure you've already judged how
little my life is worth.
You are as morally

hateful as he was.

Really, Stalin killed millions of people.
Whereas, you just promote the killing of millions of people.
Where do I fit in?

Your only danger probably would have come from his
possible perception of you as a rival.

Stalin killed his rivals. Sort of like you wish you could kill yours.

A Russian friend of mine is the daughter of one of Stalin's aides,


You don't have any friends.


LOL!!! I have *lots* of friends.

Really, post their pictures and names here. While you're at it, tell
us details about their "Christianity" so we can compare it to the
"cultists" and learn what not to do. ;)
<clip>

...and he told her what Stalin REALLY had been like.


What a sad fantasy life you lead.


No fantasy.

I bet.

I'm telling you what SHE told US.

Or rather, what your imaginary friends pretend said.

She was one of the
leaders on each of the Volga River cruises I took in 1998 and 1999.

Sure, sure.

...because there are ALWAYS exceptions when [how about
Bolsheviks] like you talk about rights. Rights for everyone except
[reproductive-process entities].


... Which don't have rights.


They should.


They shouldn't,

It's not up to you to decide. Public opinion sways in the breeze.
Fetal rights are becoming a more-and-more popular idea right now,
apparently.
<clippies>

Don't deserve rights.


Neither do you.


Stupid loser. What a joke!!

You don't. At least, not according to the reasoning you've (never)
given defending why you should be given rights.
After all, in my opinion you're a worthless glob of cells. A pile of
bricks is more worthy than you, at least it's useful.

...people with disabilities,


Bullcrap!!!


You want to kill Terri Schiavo for committing the unpardonable
sin of being disabled.


Terri told her husband when she was still perfectly well that she
would never want to be kept alive in a vegetative state.

According to what evidence?

YOU and
your fellow hateful losers want to prolong her mental ENTRAPMENT
in a useless body.

She is not mentally trapped in anything any more than Christopher
Reeve, Stephen Hawking, or the below named young man in the
restaurant. YOU want to deny her the rehabilitation she deserves, and
instead of even having the decency to promote injecting her with a
large dose of fast-acting barbiturate, you'd starve her to death over
a period of weeks.
You wouldn't do that to a stray dog. (Of course, it's illegal to do
that to a stray dog.)

I was in a restaurant yesterday with my husband and we were seated
next to a father who was with his son who appeared to be in his
twenties or so.

The son was severely retarded.

My husband and I watched as the father very carefully draped
towels on his son's chest so he could be fed; he carefully cleaned
his son's mouth when he drooled, and fed his son himself with food
and medicine.

The son, unable to speak except for gurgling sounds, was clearly
happy when his father hugged and spoke to him (which the father did
frequently as if his son was totally normal). It was a very touching
display of love and commitment. They obviously had a very deep
relationship.


So do people with their pets who can't do any more than that.

So now you compare disabled human beings to pets. I'm sure that's
very compassionate.
Would you starve a pet to death?

However, the man's son was responsive,

So is Terri Schiavo, not that it matters; if she were in a coma it's
still wrong to kill her. Look up Patricia White Bull and get back to
me.
and able to communicate

a willingness to have that relationship, rather than die. Terri has NO
such advantage.

Her parents say they communicate with her.

people who's "quality of life" doesn't live up to your expectations.


Another lie.


All you've done here is pass judgements about the quality of other
people's lives, as if YOU have been granted arbitration in deciding
who is or is not worthy.


Such AS?

Now you're so stupid you need an example even after the above exchange
about Terri Schiavo???

When did God die and leave you in charge?


YOU are the one who doesn't give a rat's ***** for people's rights.

Again, when did God die and leave you in charge? Seriously. When did
you get the idea that you're allowed to judge who and who is not
worthy of life? When did you become God?

To idiots like you, I offer an old expression: Those that do not
study history are doomed to repeat it.


I always find it deeply amusing, and sad, when leftists...


(LOL!!!! That's Screeches' pet -- lying -- word for sensible and
fair-minded egalitarians.)


You are a leftist in every sense of the word. Why don't you want
to use the terminology, since it is correct?


Because it's outmoded and meaningless in today's context.

No it isn't. It's still used all the time.
It

referred primarily to Communism.

It refers to people on the left.
PS: Communists usually don't value human life either.

You can deal with "fetus" but not leftist.


See above.

I take it back. You're not even using the word fetus anymore,
apparently.
And "fetus" is still an ACCURATE term. UNLIKE

referring to them (except in an anticipatory manner) as "babies."

They are babies. Look it up.

You're such a control freak you feel you must have the final
say over the terms of the debate down to the words used.


Wrong again.

Really, why do you go around lying by changing the words that other
people say when the attribution is clear and archives record it? Why
do you get so upset when people don't choose to use the same
terminology you choose? If they did, they'd be YOU, and apparently
you won't be happy until everyone thinks like you.
You should give up the publishing companies and instead run a
reeducation camp. You can smack people with rulers and scream at them
for daring to use the term "unborn."
YOU are the control freak because you don't

give a rat's ***** for people's rights.

I care deeply about rights; among them the right to life. Whereas,
you have redefined moral offenses as "rights."
And if you don't like to have

your verbiage criticized, all you need to do is use ACCURATE
and HONEST terminology.

Leftist, fetus, and baby are accurate. The dictionary says so.
What's your source?
And since when do I need to bow to your wishes to use YOUR preferred
wording? The first amendment covers my right to choose what words I
use. So there's your PRO-CHOICE, *****.

...repeat cute sound bytes they don't understand, worse yet
completely ignore.


"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a
new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there
is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All
else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against
which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great
destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole
morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new
morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out
first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece
and Rome." --Theodore Roosevelt, state of the union address, 1905


Upon skimming the above paragraph at first glance, I thought I saw
FDR's name. Then I thought, "It CAN'T be!! FDR was **infinitely** too
intelligent to have made so cockamamie and absurd a statement!!"


He was so intelligent he didn't care that the United States government
was overrun with, your favorite, Russian spies and traitors including
FDR's close associate Alger Hiss.


See below, about FDR.

See link:

http://www.parida.com/ddd1.html


And -- yep. Sure enough, it *wasn't* FDR.


Yes, FDR hadn't the room to preach morality while selling America to
the Bolsheviks.


FDR made mistakes at Yalta, but probably only due to his
being too ill by then to be sufficiently forceful and rational.

FDR ignored the warnings from Elizabeth Bently, Whittaker Chambers,
and others that some of his closest advisers were spies. The Venona
papers, recently revealed fifty years too late, prove it.

He
and Churchill did a WONDERFUL job of managing the war.

Yeah, ask the nine hundred Jewish refugees who came here and were
returned to Nazi Germany to roast in Hitler's ovens whether FDR did a
great job.

I'm sure glad Teddy Roosevelt isn't President today.


Of course you are. You'd ***** your pants with anger if another
George Washington was elected. You'd vote for Satan before
you'd vote for Jesus Christ.


Bullcrap!!!

Really, Satan loves abortion, promiscuity, adultery, etc. Jesus
doesn't. Jesus believed in decency, self-control, and what's now
referred to as Conduct Becoming Saints (a concept taught in Sunday
schools and Christian Character Club at many churches).

But as presidents go, the LAST thing we need are any
more hypermoralists who don't respect and defend people's personal
liberties.

You mean, you don't want someone telling you your behavior is immoral.
No one who is immoral does.

Personally, I'm not old enough to remember the water fountains
specifically for black.


There weren't that many of them, anyway.


ONE would have been one too many.


There aren't any now.


Right. Segregation is gone.

No thanks to you.
Just like the EQUALLY-hateful and

bigoted movement of Anti-Choice WILL be.

So far, it doesn't look that way.

Looking back on it, I can't recall seeing such a water fountain, per
se, in Mississippi back then. But there were so many things that WERE
designated that way, I could easily have seen them without giving
paricular conscious thought to them.


You don't give conscious thought to anything.


I defend people's rights

No you don't.

and you're a hateful moron.

Yeah, okay.

That's Craig, 100 and "Sneechres," zero.

*chuckle*

The problem of racism was RAMPANT down there.


Well, that is until you showed up and slayed all the hateful bigots
with one swipe of your Sword of Justice.

Thanks, God-Craig, for saving America!


Many thousands of people freed the South from segregation.

No, the south was freed from racism because it became unpopular with
the general public, and then came the civil rights act (brought to you
by Republicans in congress who voted for it). Segregation still
exists. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with
self-segregation; forced integration was one of the ideas pushed on
people by control freaks of your ilk. People like you love to promote
failed public policy, especially since you've never valued freedom of
association or any other freedom for that matter.
I was

happy to be a part of