Religions > Bible > Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary...
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31 May 2007 03:28:45 PM |
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Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
from a Catholic web site...
Saint Dominic, seeing that the gravity of people's sins was hindering
the conversion of the Albigensians, withdrew into a forest near
Toulouse, where he prayed continuously for three days and three
nights. During this time he did nothing but weep and do harsh penances
in order to appease the anger of God. He used his discipline so much
that his body was lacerated, and finally he fell into a coma.
At this point our Lady appeared to him, accompanied by three angels,
and she said, "Dear Dominic, do you know which weapon the Blessed
Trinity wants to use to reform the world?" "Oh, my Lady," answered
Saint Dominic, "you know far better than I do, because next to your
Son Jesus Christ you have always been the chief instrument of our
salvation."
Then our Lady replied, "I want you to know that, in this kind of
warfare, the principal weapon has always been the Angelic Psalter,
which is the foundation-stone of the New Testament. Therefore, if you
want to reach these hardened souls and win them over to God, preach my
Psalter."
everyone who has studied up on Asherah worship will find the striking
similarity to the Garden of Eden... many trees.the woman saw that the
tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes,
in the above text copied and pasted from a site devoted to Asherah
worship... otherwise calling itself ' Christian '... this Saint
Dominic ' withdrew into a forest '... many trees.
just as the Serpent appeared to Eve among the many trees of the Garden
of Eden, Asherah worship involves copying the setting from which the
devil beguiled Eve with the allurement of wisdom apart from Divine
revelation... " you will be like God knowing good and evil " ... the
woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the
eyes,...
tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. "
unbeknownst to our first parents, and apparently to the translators of
the Bible, the god Satan was refering to when he said " you will be
like god ... " was really him, Satan, for God knows no evil. Ps. 5:4
here we have this St. Dominic, who's name means ' of the Lord ',
retreating into the many trees, inflicting wounds upon himself ( which
is Masochism * ) to the point of falling into a coma, and then
receiving a visitation by none other than the Virgin Mary who changes
the Word of God for her own worship. Satan worship via Satan's
appearence to this Dominic fellow.
amazing.
to the elect of God, this is a visit of the Devil himself, as it was
in the Garden, among the many trees, to change the Word of God and
substitute his own.
in 1 John 5:19 the Apostle says that the whole world lies in the lap
of the evil one... ' lies in the lap ' means in the sexual embrace of
the evil one... as this masochist, St. Dominic, so proudly boasts by
way of his Papist fellowers.
to the non-elect of God, this is evidence of the call to worship the
Virgin Mary.
* ( Masochism, the sexual pleasure or gratification of having pain
or suffering inflicted upon the self, often consisting of sexual
fantasies or urges for being beaten, humiliated, bound, tortured, or
otherwise made to suffer, either as an enhancement to or a substitute
for sexual pleasure. )
" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31
" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48
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| User: "Edward Curtis" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
31 May 2007 10:52:22 PM |
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The Rosary does not claim the Virgin Mary to be a deity, demonic or
otherwise. Hence the original poster started his post, right in the
subject line, with a falsehood.
Edward
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 05:28:49 AM |
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"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
The Rosary does not claim the Virgin Mary to be a deity, demonic or
otherwise. Hence the original poster started his post, right in the
subject line, with a falsehood.
Jesus taught us to pray, OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN.
Dominic taught you how to pray to Mary. Now if you can find any christian
ever praying to anyone other than God or Jesus please show it to us in the
bible.
If God and Jesus are deities to be prayed to, is not Mary then made into a
deity by praying to her.
Seems the falsehood is your's!!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 06:03:38 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:49 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
Jesus taught us to pray, OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN.
Dominic taught you how to pray to Mary. Now if you can find any christian
ever praying to anyone other than God or Jesus please show it to us in the
bible.
Our "prayer" to Mary is to ask her to pray along side of us to her Son.
If God and Jesus are deities to be prayed to, is not Mary then made into a
deity by praying to her.
Nope. She has no divinity as I've told you so many times.
Seems the falsehood is your's!!
Nope. You won't pay attention.
Smile.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Edward Curtis" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 06:06:59 AM |
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On Jun 1, 6:28 am, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
The Rosary does not claim the Virgin Mary to be a deity, demonic or
otherwise. Hence the original poster started his post, right in the
subject line, with a falsehood.
Jesus taught us to pray, OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN.
Dominic taught you how to pray to Mary. Now if you can find any christian
ever praying to anyone other than God or Jesus please show it to us in the
bible.
If God and Jesus are deities to be prayed to, is not Mary then made into a
deity by praying to her.
Seems the falsehood is your's!!
I just looked up the Rosary on the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia which is
available online. Seems that even nearly a hundred years ago, there
was doubt cast on the idea that the Rosary *originated* with St.
Dominic.
It's a long article but here's a relevant clip:
"To sum up, we have positive evidence that both the invention of the
beads as a counting apparatus and also the practice of repeating a
hundred and fifty Aves cannot be due to St. Dominic, because they are
both notably older than his time. Further, we are assured that the
meditating upon the mysteries was not introduced until two hundred
years after his death. What then, we are compelled to ask, is there
left of which St. Dominic may be called the author?"
Full article if you care to read it: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13184b.htm
Edward
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 09:38:10 AM |
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"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
I just looked up the Rosary on the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia which is
available online. Seems that even nearly a hundred years ago, there
was doubt cast on the idea that the Rosary *originated* with St.
Dominic.
It's a long article but here's a relevant clip:
"To sum up, we have positive evidence that both the invention of the
beads as a counting apparatus and also the practice of repeating a
hundred and fifty Aves cannot be due to St. Dominic, because they are
both notably older than his time. Further, we are assured that the
meditating upon the mysteries was not introduced until two hundred
years after his death. What then, we are compelled to ask, is there
left of which St. Dominic may be called the author?"
Repeating 150 Aves.
What was it Jesus said again??
Matthew 6: 7 - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen
do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Smile.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 12:24:34 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:38:10 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
Repeating 150 Aves.
What was it Jesus said again??
Matthew 6: 7 - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen
do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Right, but he didn't say that repetition was in vain. In fact, we are told to
pray continuously.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 (New International Version)
16Be joyful always; 17pray continually; 18give thanks in all circumstances, for
this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
Smile, z.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Edward Curtis" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 09:50:11 AM |
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On Jun 1, 10:38 am, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
I just looked up the Rosary on the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia which is
available online. Seems that even nearly a hundred years ago, there
was doubt cast on the idea that the Rosary *originated* with St.
Dominic.
It's a long article but here's a relevant clip:
"To sum up, we have positive evidence that both the invention of the
beads as a counting apparatus and also the practice of repeating a
hundred and fifty Aves cannot be due to St. Dominic, because they are
both notably older than his time. Further, we are assured that the
meditating upon the mysteries was not introduced until two hundred
years after his death. What then, we are compelled to ask, is there
left of which St. Dominic may be called the author?"
Repeating 150 Aves.
What was it Jesus said again??
Matthew 6: 7 - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen
do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Read the accounts of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus Himself
repeated prayers. So repetition is not wrong in itself, only *vain*
repetitions are. Other translations render Mt. 6:7 as "babbling" or
"empty phrases", and the Ave is neither.
Edward
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| User: "Edward Curtis" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 06:02:20 AM |
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On Jun 1, 6:28 am, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
The Rosary does not claim the Virgin Mary to be a deity, demonic or
otherwise. Hence the original poster started his post, right in the
subject line, with a falsehood.
Jesus taught us to pray, OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN.
Dominic taught you how to pray to Mary. Now if you can find any christian
ever praying to anyone other than God or Jesus please show it to us in the
bible.
If God and Jesus are deities to be prayed to, is not Mary then made into a
deity by praying to her.
Seems the falsehood is your's!!
Many Catholics now regard the story of Mary giving the Rosary to St.
Dominic as 'legendary'. It is actually more likely that it developed
from earlier prayer forms.
And the way we pray to Mary does NOT make her a deity. We ask her to
pray for us to God.
Oh, and the 'Our Father' is part of the Rosary. Do try and keep up,
Zadok.
God bless,
Edward
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Making the Virgin Mary a demon deity... the Rosary... |
01 Jun 2007 09:34:48 AM |
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"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
Many Catholics now regard the story of Mary giving the Rosary to St.
Dominic as 'legendary'. It is actually more likely that it developed
from earlier prayer forms.
Legendary?? Is that like faory tales??
More Likely??
I guess that means they don't really know where it came from??
And the way we pray to Mary does NOT make her a deity. We ask her to
pray for us to God.
But the bible clearly tells you that there is only ONE mediator between God
and Man. Jeses Christ.
1 Timothy 2: 5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus,
Oh, and the 'Our Father' is part of the Rosary.
How many times do you say Our Father, compared to Hail Mary??
And the Hail Mary is in there why again??
Smile.
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| User: "duke" |
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01 Jun 2007 12:20:36 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:34:48 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote:
"Edward Curtis" <> wrote in message
Many Catholics now regard the story of Mary giving the Rosary to St.
Dominic as 'legendary'. It is actually more likely that it developed
from earlier prayer forms.
Legendary?? Is that like faory tales??
More Likely??
I guess that means they don't really know where it came from??
It is a prayer of the people. The Rosary is not technically a "Catholic Church
"prayer". Each of the 15 decades (now 20) were reflections on the suffering,
glorious, and joyful acts of Christ. The new 10 are acts of light in his life.
And the way we pray to Mary does NOT make her a deity. We ask her to
pray for us to God.
But the bible clearly tells you that there is only ONE mediator between God
and Man. Jeses Christ.
And so it remains, for we ask Mary to pray along side us to her Son. If you had
ever read the Hail Mary, you'd notice the petition as "Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us, now and at the hour of our death."
1 Timothy 2: 5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus,
Oh, and the 'Our Father' is part of the Rosary.
How many times do you say Our Father, compared to Hail Mary??
All 72 prayers invoke the name of the Lord.
And the Hail Mary is in there why again??
We ask her to pray to her son for us. It's her prayer.
Smile.
You don't stand a chance, z, in your endeavors to downplay the Catholic Church.
The more you try, the deeper you dig your hole.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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01 Jun 2007 12:08:59 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:02:20 -0700, Edward Curtis <whfastus@myway.com> wrote:
Many Catholics now regard the story of Mary giving the Rosary to St.
Dominic as 'legendary'. It is actually more likely that it developed
from earlier prayer forms.
And the way we pray to Mary does NOT make her a deity. We ask her to
pray for us to God.
Oh, and the 'Our Father' is part of the Rosary. Do try and keep up,
Zadok.
He can, but he refuses.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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