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25 Jul 2007 02:33:43 PM |
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Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
Given: The Bible was written over thousands of years.
Given: Hundreds of Bible prophecies have come true.
Given: Not a single Bible prophecy has failed to come true.
Therefore, every Bible prophecy will come true.
A prophecy of the Bible says Jesus would return.
Therefore, Jesus will return.
QED
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 03:08:11 PM |
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<professor@math.christian> wrote in message
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Given: <professor@math.christian> is a certified Nostradumbass.
QED
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 03:53:33 PM |
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<professor@math.christian> wrote in message
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Given: The Bible was written over thousands of years.
Doubtful.
Given: Hundreds of Bible prophecies have come true.
Name even one.
Given: Not a single Bible prophecy has failed to come true.
Flat-out *****.
Therefore, every Bible prophecy will come true.
Sure, Skippy. Sure.
A prophecy of the Bible says Jesus would return.
Within the lifetime of those present. didn't happen.
Therefore, Jesus will return.
Uh-huh.
QED
Your "proofs" are nothing more than unsupported assertions and personal
opinions. They are not only not 'givens', they can be irrefutably
demonstrated to be false. Therefore, you are an idiot.
QED
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 06:51:50 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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<professor@math.christian> wrote in message
news:13af9b9dj04bkca@corp.supernews.com...
Given: The Bible was written over thousands of years.
Doubtful.
Given: Hundreds of Bible prophecies have come true.
Name even one.
Given: Not a single Bible prophecy has failed to come true.
Flat-out *****.
Therefore, every Bible prophecy will come true.
Sure, Skippy. Sure.
A prophecy of the Bible says Jesus would return.
Within the lifetime of those present. didn't happen.
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
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| User: "Opus-" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 11:14:22 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
I used to listen to Jesus Jones on the radio. Does that count?
--
jbuchy@hotmail.com
(Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)
"Religion is, in fact, the lobotomy of the masses"
- Thë Rìght Rêvereñd Fìdø Çhrì§T
Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at
my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 11:22:11 PM |
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"Opus-" <jbuchy@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
I used to listen to Jesus Jones on the radio. Does that count?
Never heard of him.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 10:35:19 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
But we recognize psychotics when they post. Tell your nurse to
increase your meds, Mark - the current dose isn't doing enough.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 10:52:17 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qh5ga3po2lcp9fb9tcjpv2f2nj9f2qnprr@4ax.com...
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
But we recognize psychotics when they post. Tell your nurse to
increase your meds, Mark - the current dose isn't doing enough.
There is an alternate solution, Al.
You be pure of heart.
If you don't know what that means...
....it kind of means to see things like a child.
A child would reason...if Jesus exists...I must be able to find him then,
or at least...he must be able to find me.
Think about it...if we were all pure of heart...the whole world would be
pure,
and everything in it would be wonderful.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 09:53:25 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:52:17 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qh5ga3po2lcp9fb9tcjpv2f2nj9f2qnprr@4ax.com...
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
But we recognize psychotics when they post. Tell your nurse to
increase your meds, Mark - the current dose isn't doing enough.
There is an alternate solution, Al.
You be pure of heart.
If you don't know what that means...
...it kind of means to see things like a child.
I did - then I grew up. You didn't.
A child would reason...if Jesus exists
And, at that point, an INTELLIGENT child would look for objective
evidence that Jesus OBJECTIVELY exists. At the age of 6, I arrived at
the conclusion that there wasn't any. That's when I started growing
up.
When do you start?
Think about it...if we were all pure of heart...the whole world would be
pure,
and everything in it would be wonderful.
And if the queen had balls she'd be the king.
Fairy tales are nice for children, Mark, but isn't it way past time
that you started growing up? Or do you want, like most people, to
remain a child all your life?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 08:01:55 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:51:50 -0500, Mark Earnest wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:46a7b825$0$30669$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
<professor@math.christian> wrote in message
news:13af9b9dj04bkca@corp.supernews.com...
Given: The Bible was written over thousands of years.
Doubtful.
Given: Hundreds of Bible prophecies have come true.
Name even one.
Given: Not a single Bible prophecy has failed to come true.
Flat-out *****.
Therefore, every Bible prophecy will come true.
Sure, Skippy. Sure.
A prophecy of the Bible says Jesus would return.
Within the lifetime of those present. didn't happen.
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime. People just don't
recognize him.
Well, that's an impressive god, comes back and nobody knows...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 10:17:37 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 10:24:50 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different outwardly
every time you see him, just about.
It is how he makes you feel.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal every
hurt.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long hair,
the
beard and all that.
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| User: "Tonico" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:49:26 AM |
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On 26 jul, 06:24, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different outwardly
every time you see him, just about.
It is how he makes you feel.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal every
hurt.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long hair,
the
beard and all that.
********************************************************
Aha....and the blue eyes and the nordic type as well? Has he already
married or he he still hangs around all the time with 12 guys?
Tonio
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 08:03:04 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:24:50 -0500, Mark Earnest wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime. People just don't
recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
<SNIP>
Do you have any clue that you're a total joke on alt.atheism? You're a
laughing stock, nothing more.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 11:39:44 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's Jesus!"
Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe this?
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees. Probably because I'm just too intelligent for this nonsense.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long
hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:20:11 AM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978DC5E2FBF2vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's Jesus!"
Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe this?
That is not how you identify Jesus. It takes more than just seeing a robed
figure with a staff walking by.
You have to look into your heart to identify him.
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
You would definitely feel something if he actually came up to you, though.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees.
That is because you are an atheist, and do not accept the possibility of
spirits.
If however, he was physically there, you would perceive words rushing
through you like a river, and would perceive all hurts being healed.
Probably because I'm just too intelligent for this nonsense.
That is just the way God designed you, that you call it nonsense.
It is a quirk in the atheist's personality, so that they will guard the
importance
of knowledge of the real world.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long
hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
If he stood before you, I am betting you would know he exists.
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| User: "Tonico" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:57:01 AM |
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On 26 jul, 09:20, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
..=2E......................
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long
hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
If he stood before you, I am betting you would know he exists.-
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Wow, that looks like a pretty sure bet! May I join, please??
And I want to forward another one if I may, Mark: I bet that if you
stood in front of the Big Holy Purple Unicorn ( aka TBHPU ), you=B4d
know it exists....are we on?!
Regards
Tonio
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 02:01:18 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Tonico <Tonicopm@yahoo.com> bloodied us up
with this:
On 26 jul, 09:20, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
........................
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that
one, he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with
the long hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
If he stood before you, I am betting you would know he exists.-
*********************************************************
Wow, that looks like a pretty sure bet! May I join, please??
And I want to forward another one if I may, Mark: I bet that if you
stood in front of the Big Holy Purple Unicorn ( aka TBHPU ), you´d
know it exists....are we on?!
Regards
Tonio
To Mark, and most other christers, all other gods believed in by the rest
of mankind, are his christian god in disguise. It's the only way they
can rationalize the fact that so many gods are worshiped.
The rest of the christers are the ones we need to identify and avoid,
even lock up if we can.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Andy W" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 06:10:28 PM |
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On 26 Jul, 08:01, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Tonico <Tonic...@yahoo.com> bloodied us up
with this:
On 26 jul, 09:20, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
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Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that
one, he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with
the long hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
If he stood before you, I am betting you would know he exists.-
*********************************************************
Wow, that looks like a pretty sure bet! May I join, please??
And I want to forward another one if I may, Mark: I bet that if you
stood in front of the Big Holy Purple Unicorn ( aka TBHPU ), you=B4d
know it exists....are we on?!
Regards
Tonio
To Mark, and most other christers, all other gods believed in by the rest
of mankind, are his christian god in disguise. It's the only way they
can rationalize the fact that so many gods are worshiped.
The rest of the christers are the ones we need to identify and avoid,
even lock up if we can.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Actually Mark is even worse than that. He seems to think that
practically everyone he meets is his god in disguise, or Jesus, or an
angel or something.
I just don't know what to make of the guy. Part of me wants to take
the *****. Part of me thinks that is just too easy. Part of me thinks
he seriously needs medical help. Part of me thinks he can't be so
dysfunctional and yet so lucid, and is therefore just a troll. At the
moment I just avoid responding to his nonsense.
Andy
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:45:39 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978DC5E2FBF2vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's
Jesus!" Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe
this?
That is not how you identify Jesus. It takes more than just seeing a
robed figure with a staff walking by.
You have to look into your heart to identify him.
So he shows up on X-rays? I didn't know that. I'm betting there isn't a
doctor in existence that knows that.
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
You would definitely feel something if he actually came up to you,
though.
That has never happened. You would think it would, too, since he seems
to crave our attention.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees.
That is because you are an atheist, and do not accept the possibility
of spirits.
I did, when I was a teenager, just to make sure I was right. I was
sincere to myself. I went whole hog, down on my knees to several
churches and accepted Jeebus just like you say. Nothing happened, with
the exception of feeling stupid. Why didn't Jeebus appear to me and set
me straight? I prayed to him in his name. He could have had me, if he
actually existed.
If however, he was physically there, you would perceive words rushing
through you like a river, and would perceive all hurts being healed.
Nope. Nothing. Just an intense feeling of stupidity. Bad enough to
make me cry.
Probably because I'm just too intelligent for this nonsense.
That is just the way God designed you, that you call it nonsense.
It is a quirk in the atheist's personality, so that they will guard
the importance
of knowledge of the real world.
No, it's the way I've evolved. No god gene, no superstitious memes.
Just an inquisitive nature for the truth. The *real* truth.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that
one, he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the
long hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
If he stood before you, I am betting you would know he exists.
And I'm betting you're full of steaming horse *****.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 05:17:29 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978F1B7615A8vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978DC5E2FBF2vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's
Jesus!" Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe
this?
That is not how you identify Jesus. It takes more than just seeing a
robed figure with a staff walking by.
You have to look into your heart to identify him.
So he shows up on X-rays? I didn't know that. I'm betting there isn't a
doctor in existence that knows that.
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
You would definitely feel something if he actually came up to you,
though.
That has never happened. You would think it would, too, since he seems
to crave our attention.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees.
That is because you are an atheist, and do not accept the possibility
of spirits.
I did, when I was a teenager, just to make sure I was right. I was
sincere to myself. I went whole hog, down on my knees to several
churches and accepted Jeebus just like you say. Nothing happened, with
the exception of feeling stupid. Why didn't Jeebus appear to me and set
me straight? I prayed to him in his name. He could have had me, if he
actually existed.
It is just like watching a baseball game.
To have any effect, you have to sincerely believe.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 06:14:57 PM |
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On Jul 26, 5:17 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978F1B7615A8vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978DC5E2FBF2vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <addr...@withheld.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's
Jesus!" Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe
this?
That is not how you identify Jesus. It takes more than just seeing a
robed figure with a staff walking by.
You have to look into your heart to identify him.
So he shows up on X-rays? I didn't know that. I'm betting there isn't a
doctor in existence that knows that.
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
You would definitely feel something if he actually came up to you,
though.
That has never happened. You would think it would, too, since he seems
to crave our attention.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees.
That is because you are an atheist, and do not accept the possibility
of spirits.
I did, when I was a teenager, just to make sure I was right. I was
sincere to myself. I went whole hog, down on my knees to several
churches and accepted Jeebus just like you say. Nothing happened, with
the exception of feeling stupid. Why didn't Jeebus appear to me and set
me straight? I prayed to him in his name. He could have had me, if he
actually existed.
It is just like watching a baseball game.
To have any effect, you have to sincerely believe
Spoken like a true Cubs fan.
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| User: "Opus-" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 10:01:53 PM |
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On Jul 26, 5:17 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is just like watching a baseball game.
To have any effect, you have to sincerely believe
"Sincerely Believe"..that's the key..to fooling yourself.
This reminds me of a trick that I and a buddy played on my roommate
back over 27 years ago. Back then, like a lot of people, we would
often smoke the "mighty herb" on weekends.
My buddy and I decided to have a little fun and also try a test of
something that happened in an episode of M*A*S*H where they used sugar
pills as a placebo.
We made a couple of reefers with nothing but tobacco and tea leaves.
For those who don't know, tea leaves smell EXACTLY like the demon weed
when smoked. They do nothing else but give you a headache.
About 10 minutes before my roomie came home, we lit up the fake
joints. Soon the room was permeated with a very familiar Friday night
odour. Right on cue, my roomie came home. We then put on an Oscar
winning performance. You'd swear we were totally fried, but in reality
we were strait as a board. We pass the J's on to the roomie, who took
them with great enthusiasm. Very soon, he was completely cooked...or
so he believed!!
But for me, the most interesting part was, when we told him the truth,
he didn't believe us!!! He remained wasted the rest of the
evening...and proceeded to clean us out of Doritos!!
My point is, my roomie had "faith" in the joint he was smoking. He
truly believed he would get a good buzz and his mind was happy to
oblige. This placebo effect is nothing new. What the mind believes,
the body feels. My roomie's faith didn't change the fact that he was
only smoking tea leaves.
It's no different than the euphoria that many theists claim they feel
with their religion. They feel the "Spirit of <insert deity here>"
because they so fully and completely expect to.
That, in a nutshell, is religion...just a placebo on a grand scale.
The more open the mind, the better the placebo works. That's why
children are indoctrinated so early.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
27 Jul 2007 12:00:03 AM |
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"Opus-" <jbuchy@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Jul 26, 5:17 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It is just like watching a baseball game.
To have any effect, you have to sincerely believe
"Sincerely Believe"..that's the key..to fooling yourself.
This reminds me of a trick that I and a buddy played on my roommate
back over 27 years ago. Back then, like a lot of people, we would
often smoke the "mighty herb" on weekends.
My buddy and I decided to have a little fun and also try a test of
something that happened in an episode of M*A*S*H where they used sugar
pills as a placebo.
We made a couple of reefers with nothing but tobacco and tea leaves.
For those who don't know, tea leaves smell EXACTLY like the demon weed
when smoked. They do nothing else but give you a headache.
About 10 minutes before my roomie came home, we lit up the fake
joints. Soon the room was permeated with a very familiar Friday night
odour. Right on cue, my roomie came home. We then put on an Oscar
winning performance. You'd swear we were totally fried, but in reality
we were strait as a board. We pass the J's on to the roomie, who took
them with great enthusiasm. Very soon, he was completely cooked...or
so he believed!!
But for me, the most interesting part was, when we told him the truth,
he didn't believe us!!! He remained wasted the rest of the
evening...and proceeded to clean us out of Doritos!!
My point is, my roomie had "faith" in the joint he was smoking. He
truly believed he would get a good buzz and his mind was happy to
oblige. This placebo effect is nothing new. What the mind believes,
the body feels. My roomie's faith didn't change the fact that he was
only smoking tea leaves.
It's no different than the euphoria that many theists claim they feel
with their religion. They feel the "Spirit of <insert deity here>"
because they so fully and completely expect to.
That, in a nutshell, is religion...just a placebo on a grand scale.
The more open the mind, the better the placebo works. That's why
children are indoctrinated so early.
The placebo effect does little more than prove the power of faith, here.
Faith in God works exactly the same way.
When you believe in God, you get high on eternity.
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| User: "Fun Tyme" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 12:05:50 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's Jesus!"
Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe this?
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees. Probably because I'm just too intelligent for this nonsense.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long
hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
He does too !....in the delusion of many.
Please keep your camera handy Mark, we just have to see a photo.
Oh - and an autograph would be a hoot on Ebay !
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:22:44 AM |
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"Fun Tyme" <fntym@wallabycock.net> wrote in message
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Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9978CE720490Fvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
It is not so much how he looks outwardly, as he looks different
outwardly every time you see him, just about.
That's convenient. You could point out anyone and say, "There's Jesus!"
Come one, really, Mark, you expect rational people to believe this?
It is how he makes you feel.
He's never made me feel anything, even when I tried to believe.
His words rush through you like a river, and work vividly to heal
every hurt.
No, they don't. I never heard his words, even when I got down on my
knees. Probably because I'm just too intelligent for this nonsense.
Yet in his purest form, if you are lucky enough to encounter that one,
he looks a lot like he does in the movies...you know, with the long
hair, the
beard and all that.
He doesn't exist, Mark.
He does too !....in the delusion of many.
Please keep your camera handy Mark, we just have to see a photo.
Just go to the video store and check out a movie about Jesus.
Nine times out of ten, it is probably a moving photograph of him.
Jesus is omnipresent, and exists in many forms.
Oh - and an autograph would be a hoot on Ebay !
It would be kind of hard identifying it as authentic, however, these days
anyway.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 01:33:24 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Please keep your camera handy Mark, we just have to see a photo.
Just go to the video store and check out a movie about Jesus.
Nine times out of ten, it is probably a moving photograph of him.
Jesus is omnipresent, and exists in many forms.
Oh, Mark. Those are actors. They're not Jesus, they make money pretending
they're him. Also, Jesus is not a part of my life, nor my wife's, or my
children's lives. Therefore he is not omnipresent.
Oh - and an autograph would be a hoot on Ebay !
It would be kind of hard identifying it as authentic, however, these
days anyway.
No, not really. People fight to pay actual money for those frauds. Just
like they happily empty their pockets in church on Sunday.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 12:10:38 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Fun Tyme <fntym@wallabycock.net> bloodied
us up with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
He doesn't exist, Mark.
He does too !....in the delusion of many.
Please keep your camera handy Mark, we just have to see a photo.
Oh - and an autograph would be a hoot on Ebay !
I want to see a jebus burrito. Or maybe a jebus omelet. Let them try to
sell that!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Bob Terwilliger" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 11:29:10 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
He looks exactly like Ted Nugent. Yup, that's right... he even plays
guitar! Not as well as Ted mind you, but he's not too bad. Perhaps if he
tried something other than Christian rock he could broaden his appeal?
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| User: "Opus-" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
26 Jul 2007 10:03:42 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:29:10 -0600, Bob Terwilliger
<RobertUnderdunkTerwilliger@noneOfYourBusiness.com> spake thusly:
Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
He looks exactly like Ted Nugent. Yup, that's right... he even plays
guitar! Not as well as Ted mind you, but he's not too bad. Perhaps if he
tried something other than Christian rock he could broaden his appeal?
I say he looks like a Klingon
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jbuchy@hotmail.com
(Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)
"Religion is, in fact, the lobotomy of the masses"
- Thë Rìght Rêvereñd Fìdø Çhrì§T
Please note: All unsolicited e-mail sent to me may, at
my discretion, be posted in this newsgroup verbatim.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Math Proof: JESUS will return! |
25 Jul 2007 11:40:32 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Bob Terwilliger
<RobertUnderdunkTerwilliger@noneOfYourBusiness.com> bloodied us up with
this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jesus returns to everyone within their lifetime.
People just don't recognize him.
How would anyone know what he looks like?
He looks exactly like Ted Nugent. Yup, that's right... he even plays
guitar! Not as well as Ted mind you, but he's not too bad. Perhaps if
he tried something other than Christian rock he could broaden his
appeal?
I guess anyone with a beard and long hair and sandals fits the description.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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