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29 Jun 2007 03:54:12 PM |
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Meet God for the first time in person |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
He says he hopes eventually to use the technique to create designer
microbes, which could produce artificial fuel or help clean up toxic
waste.
Dr Venter was a pioneer in mapping the human genome.
Organic tools
The ultimate plan is to stitch together artificial chromosomes,
proteins and other building blocks with the aim of jumpstarting their
designer microbe to life. But Dr Venter concedes that this may be a
long way away, but he says he has taken an important key step towards
that goal.
His team, essentially, snatched the body of another life-form and
invaded it with a new genetic code.
This, he says, will be a key tool in testing the artificial
chromosomes - or DNA bundles - he plans to make.
"What's in this paper is the result of taking a native chromosome from
one species," Dr Venter explained.
"That chromosome was transplanted, inserted through the cell walls,
the cell membrane of a second species and, after several days of
growth and cell division, the original chromosome in the cell
disappears and we have cells containing only the transplanted
chromosome."
Concerns
But there are those who are worried about what Dr Venter is doing.
Some fear the technology could be used to create biological weapons or
simply that something unforeseen may emerge from the laboratory.
Others are concerned that his institute's efforts to patent their
research could restrict scientific advances elsewhere.
But Dr Venter says he is doing nothing that other institutes do not
already do.
"Over the last several years we have had to develop novel techniques
and approaches that have not existed before because this field has not
existed before," he said.
"The Venter Institute and the Synthetic Genomics Company are doing
what most major institutions do - that is we file patents on these
unique techniques."
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
29 Jun 2007 06:48:33 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
A genome, huh? So, life from life and claims
that it is life from non-life.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "The Highlander" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
30 Jun 2007 10:22:20 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:33 -0400, Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
A genome, huh? So, life from life and claims
that it is life from non-life.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
Far an taine ‘n abhainn, ‘s ann as mò a fuaim.
(Where the stream is shallowest, it is noisiest. Gaelic proverb.)
The Highlander
Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan,
togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus
toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!
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| User: "The Highlander" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
30 Jun 2007 04:03:02 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:33 -0400, Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
A genome, huh? So, life from life and claims
that it is life from non-life.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
What proof do you have that Dr. Venter is homosexual? Legally, you
hjave just libelled a man who might be quite pleased to take you to
court and be awarded everything you own.
Frankly, the reason your religion has pretty much died out in so many
European countries is because people like you keep making stupid
statements which offend most thinking people; in particular Scots, who
tend to be well-educated and perceptive. This is one of those
occasions.
To me, the title "Pastor" is frequently a warning signal indicating an
unscrupulous criminal exploiting the credulous for his own financial
gain.
Perhaps you would be good enough to lay out your credentials for using
the title "Pastor". Of course you are under no obligation to do so,
but it will result in some of us assuming that you are just another
crook working a scam on your mentally confused adherents.
My take on Christianity is that it is one of the more vicious
religions, which does little but stir up hatred and discrimination, as
indeed your post makes clear. It preys on the gullible and the
ignorant, and has done more damage to the world than almost any other
human action. It offers a false comfort for those whose egos refuse to
accept that one day they will simply collapse and die when some
malfunctioning organ shuts down. It's a desperate grasping by people
who will not accept or believe that one day they will simply stop and
rot away in about three days if left to Nature to take its course and
they expire in a place where the sun can reach them.
Who would want to have anything to do with a God who is claimed to be
omnipotent, yet who never lifts a finger to stop the never-ending
brutal treatment and murder of innocent children; yet who says, "Bring
the little children to me!" like some pedophile looking for fresh
flesh to abuse; a God who is so psychologically disturbed that he
insists on being praised day and night throughout eternity like some
demented Nero.
Your God makes the horrors perpetrated by the likes of Josef Stalin,
Adolf Hitler and Attila the Hun fade into insignificance. Nobody that
evil would be allowed out of a padded cell in any civilized country.
Take your God away and cut his throat before he does any more damage.
And as for the so-called Messiah, Jesus, show us one shred of real
proof that he ever existed. The Romans, meticulous record keepers,
make no mention of him at all in the vast collection of records they
left behind, despite the ludicrous stories in the totally
unbelievable, self-contradicting fantasy you call The New Testament.
For example, Matthew 1, v.1 spends an entire page plus, exploring the
descent of Jesus from Abraham via the kings of Israel through the male
line. How can he be the son of God if he has all those male ancestors?
Any worthwile judge would toss that piece of evidence out of court on
the spot. I know what the intent was; to give him an aristocratic
genealogy but any court would refuse his claims on the grounds that he
was legally a *****, as his mother was claimed to have been molested
by a ghost, which take us into the realm of fairies and black magic.
I think you're a fraud and by the way, your attempt to denigrate
homosexuals for your own glorification reeks of someone who is having
his own problems with his sexual orientation. Just keep your hands off
the kids and you'll keep your name out of the sex offenders' registry.
Good bye, Pastor Dave. Good luck fleecing your flock!
The Highlander
Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan,
togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus
toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
30 Jun 2007 11:24:23 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:03:02 GMT, The Highlander
<micheil@shaw.ca> spoke thusly:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:33 -0400, Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
A genome, huh? So, life from life and claims
that it is life from non-life.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
What proof do you have that Dr. Venter is homosexual? Legally, you
hjave just libelled a man who might be quite pleased to take you to
court and be awarded everything you own.
1) I didn't say he is homosexual.
2) If there is nothing wrong with homosexuality,
then how could I have libeled the man? Thank
you for proving that homosexuality is a bad thing.
Frankly, the reason your religion has pretty much died out in so many
European countries is because people like you keep making stupid
statements which offend most thinking people; in particular Scots, who
tend to be well-educated and perceptive. This is one of those
occasions.
And now comes the claim that Christianity died out.
To me, the title "Pastor" is frequently a warning signal indicating an
unscrupulous criminal exploiting the credulous for his own financial
gain.
Perhaps you would be good enough to lay out your credentials for using
the title "Pastor". Of course you are under no obligation to do so,
but it will result in some of us assuming that you are just another
crook working a scam on your mentally confused adherents.
When you're exposed, attack the one who exposed you.
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "The Highlander" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
01 Jul 2007 03:25:14 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:24:23 -0400, Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:03:02 GMT, The Highlander
<micheil@shaw.ca> spoke thusly:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:33 -0400, Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
Dr Craig Venter says in the Science journal that his team successfully
transplanted an entire genome from one bacterium cell to another.
A genome, huh? So, life from life and claims
that it is life from non-life.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
What proof do you have that Dr. Venter is homosexual? Legally, you
hjave just libelled a man who might be quite pleased to take you to
court and be awarded everything you own.
1) I didn't say he is homosexual.
2) If there is nothing wrong with homosexuality,
then how could I have libeled the man? Thank
you for proving that homosexuality is a bad thing.
Frankly, the reason your religion has pretty much died out in so many
European countries is because people like you keep making stupid
statements which offend most thinking people; in particular Scots, who
tend to be well-educated and perceptive. This is one of those
occasions.
And now comes the claim that Christianity died out.
To me, the title "Pastor" is frequently a warning signal indicating an
unscrupulous criminal exploiting the credulous for his own financial
gain.
Perhaps you would be good enough to lay out your credentials for using
the title "Pastor". Of course you are under no obligation to do so,
but it will result in some of us assuming that you are just another
crook working a scam on your mentally confused adherents.
When you're exposed, attack the one who exposed you.
That's right, and that's what you just did.
The Highlander
Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan,
togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus
toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!
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| User: "" |
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30 Jun 2007 01:11:58 AM |
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On Jun 30, 11:48 am, Pastor Dave <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken a major step towards
producing life from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
No it's not - the only false thing around here is you - oh evil one.
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
I am a woman and my name is Gay? Is that a crime?
Pastor Dave
g.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
Scripture is Shite
Gay Helen Highlander
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
30 Jun 2007 01:44:51 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:11:58 -0700, spoke
thusly:
On Jun 30, 11:48 am, Pastor Dave
<n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
gay.highlan...@yahoo.co.uk spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken
a major step towards producing life
from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
No it's not - the only false thing around here is you
- oh evil one.
I see. This is the part where, after making claims
about "science", you leave "science" and start
insulting me, which shows that your inference
that science backs you up, is just a load of crap.
And let us note how you immediately reverted
to insults. Now why don't you go ahead and
prove that I'm "evil". This would be a good
trick, especially considering that you call up
a label that would be Biblical, while at the
same time, trying to undermine the Bible.
Now tell us all, how does your posting to Christian
news groups, telling us all about your fantasy,
make you tolerant, as you claim you are and
Christians are not?
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
I am a woman and my name is Gay?
Is that a crime?
Committing homosexual acts is a crime in God's eyes.
But surely you decided that whatever you like to do
in life, somehow becomes agreeable to God. Thus,
you make your own god, who just happens to like
all of the things that you like. Just as I'm sure that
telling lies becomes okay with God, whenever you
think they're justified and I have no doubt that you
have told your girlfriends how committing adultery
is okay, because their husbands did not meet with
your standards and besides, you'd prefer those
women to be homosexual anyway and tell them
all about what trash men are. You see, this is
obvious by your instant hate for male posters.
Unless of course, they tell you how right you are.
<chuckle>
And your comment proves to all of us that your claims
were scientifically grounded, how exactly?
Let's face the facts. You had nothing. You found
something that you thought would help you and
that you did not even understand to begin with.
You just skimmed through it, thought it looked
good and pasted it in.
You haven't a clue and we both know that. And
if a real discussion came anywhere near you, you
wouldn't know what to do with it. <laugh>
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "Robert Peffers." |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
01 Jul 2007 06:07:54 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:jbub83tlpa527gc3f0tcta9g3jp4c264q0@4ax.com...
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:11:58 -0700, spoke
thusly:
On Jun 30, 11:48 am, Pastor Dave
<n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
gay.highlan...@yahoo.co.uk spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken
a major step towards producing life
from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
No it's not - the only false thing around here is you
- oh evil one.
I see. This is the part where, after making claims
about "science", you leave "science" and start
insulting me, which shows that your inference
that science backs you up, is just a load of crap.
And let us note how you immediately reverted
to insults. Now why don't you go ahead and
prove that I'm "evil". This would be a good
trick, especially considering that you call up
a label that would be Biblical, while at the
same time, trying to undermine the Bible.
Now tell us all, how does your posting to Christian
news groups, telling us all about your fantasy,
make you tolerant, as you claim you are and
Christians are not?
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
I am a woman and my name is Gay?
Is that a crime?
Committing homosexual acts is a crime in God's eyes.
But surely you decided that whatever you like to do
in life, somehow becomes agreeable to God. Thus,
you make your own god, who just happens to like
all of the things that you like. Just as I'm sure that
telling lies becomes okay with God, whenever you
think they're justified and I have no doubt that you
have told your girlfriends how committing adultery
is okay, because their husbands did not meet with
your standards and besides, you'd prefer those
women to be homosexual anyway and tell them
all about what trash men are. You see, this is
obvious by your instant hate for male posters.
Unless of course, they tell you how right you are.
<chuckle>
And your comment proves to all of us that your claims
were scientifically grounded, how exactly?
Let's face the facts. You had nothing. You found
something that you thought would help you and
that you did not even understand to begin with.
You just skimmed through it, thought it looked
good and pasted it in.
You haven't a clue and we both know that. And
if a real discussion came anywhere near you, you
wouldn't know what to do with it. <laugh>
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
God?
Prove she exists or shut up NOW.
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| User: "" |
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30 Jun 2007 03:43:10 AM |
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On Jun 30, 6:44 pm, Pastor Dave <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:11:58 -0700, spoke
thusly:
On Jun 30, 11:48 am, Pastor Dave
<n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:54:12 -0700,
gay.highlan...@yahoo.co.uk spoke thusly:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6251910.stm
Scientists in the US say they have taken
a major step towards producing life
from scratch in the laboratory.
And as usual, it is a false claim.
No it's not - the only false thing around here is you
- oh evil one.
I see. This is the part where, after making claims
about "science", you leave "science" and start
insulting me, which shows that your inference
that science backs you up, is just a load of crap.
And let us note how you immediately reverted
to insults. Now why don't you go ahead and
prove that I'm "evil". This would be a good
trick, especially considering that you call up
a label that would be Biblical, while at the
same time, trying to undermine the Bible.
Now tell us all, how does your posting to Christian
news groups, telling us all about your fantasy,
make you tolerant, as you claim you are and
Christians are not?
But homosexuals are always trying to undermine
the Scriptures. Thanks for proving that for us! :)
I am a woman and my name is Gay?
Is that a crime?
Committing homosexual acts is a crime in God's eyes.
But surely you decided that whatever you like to do
in life, somehow becomes agreeable to God. Thus,
you make your own god, who just happens to like
all of the things that you like. Just as I'm sure that
telling lies becomes okay with God, whenever you
think they're justified and I have no doubt that you
have told your girlfriends how committing adultery
is okay, because their husbands did not meet with
your standards and besides, you'd prefer those
women to be homosexual anyway and tell them
all about what trash men are. You see, this is
obvious by your instant hate for male posters.
Unless of course, they tell you how right you are.
<chuckle>
And your comment proves to all of us that your claims
were scientifically grounded, how exactly?
Let's face the facts. You had nothing. You found
something that you thought would help you and
that you did not even understand to begin with.
You just skimmed through it, thought it looked
good and pasted it in.
You haven't a clue and we both know that. And
if a real discussion came anywhere near you, you
wouldn't know what to do with it. <laugh>
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
Dear Pastor Dave (a Pastor by the way folks is like a priest - only
without the formal study - they just call themselves that - so that
they have control over others).
Now as I was saying oh evil one, I am not Gay, my name is Gay (that's
a first name where I come from and it doesn't make you a Lesbian).
Sorry to spoil your sexual fantasy.
Now where was I - yes he is creating life - designer life. He isn't
creating the spark of life if you want to call it that but my
manipulating chromosomes he will be able to create designer microbes -
like in engineering. It's like creating a new species - that's not bad
for a start now is it. The creation bit from nothing will take a few
more years but I am sure that will happen too - you would have a long
wait though for evolution to take it's time.
You see oh evil one, there is no God of the bible - sorry to have to
say that but it's true. Likewise there is no devil either - so don't
worry - chill out a bit man.
It's kinda hard to take that we are here for no other reason but to
spread our genes - but that's it. There are many religions and they
are all bollocks - though there are some good things that can be
taken from them. However, we were not created by a supernatural being
of any sort. If however you wish to believe in fairies then go ahead -
we live in a free country ( at least I do - not sure about you).
Gay Highlander
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Meet God for the first time in person |
30 Jun 2007 11:22:00 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:43:10 -0700, spoke
thusly:
Dear Pastor Dave (a Pastor by the way folks is like a priest - only
without the formal study - they just call themselves that - so that
they have control over others).
Thank you for proving my point.
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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