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User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 23 Aug 2007 03:27:15 PM
Object: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts
Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...
NewsBusters ^ | 06.21.07 | Dave Pierre
Posted on 07/04/2007 5:05:11 PM PDT by Coleus
Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...
Posted by Dave Pierre
On Tuesday's episode (6/19/07) of The View, Michael Moore advocated
socialized medicine by saying that "Jesus told us that we would be
judged by how we treat the least among us." (Video at Hot Air.) The
problem? For one, starting many years ago, Michael Moore has displayed
behavior that many followers of Jesus would find offensive. Moore also
reportedly has a dubious history in dealing with "the least" around
him in his own life.
1. Back in high school, the rebellious Moore staged a play that openly
mocked Jesus' Crucifixion. Read about it on Moore's own web site:
Around that time I wrote and directed a play that included a scene
where Jesus yanks the nails out and comes down off the cross. Actors
playing locally-known bigots rose out of the audience to stab, shoot
and beat "Jesus" to death, drag him back up to the cross on the stage,
and re-crucify him. Typical drama from an ex-seminarian.
You can imagine not much of this went over very well with the local
business and Born Again establishment ...
2. Moore has openly championed pro-choice candidates and the pro-
choice cause (link).
Here's a question for Moore: Is there anything more innocent,
defenseless, and vulnerable ("the least") than an unborn child in the
womb of its mother?
Moore identifies himself as "Catholic," yet his pro-choice position is
not the least bit in communion with the Church, which teaches that
abortion is evil by its very nature (intrinsece malum). (Interesting
tidbit: The Didache (aka "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles"),
possibly the oldest known Christian document not in the Bible, says,
"[Y]ou shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is
born" (2:2). The Didache has been dated as early as 50 A.D.)
How is defending abortion in alignment with Jesus' teaching of caring
for "the least among us"? Michael?
3. One could also argue that Moore has a troubling record in dealing
with "the least" himself. Peter Schweizer's bestselling Do As I Say
(Not As I Do) book provides a number of examples:
The Writer's Guild union "had to arbitrate several complaints from TV
Nation writers who hadn't received proper payments for their work."
Adds Schweizer, "[A co-executive producer] says that Moore did not
want to give writers proper credit, thereby having to share the
profits." (TV Nation was a series created by Moore that aired briefly
in the 1990's.)
"For a man who by 2002 had a net worth in eight figures, he gave away
a modest $36,000 through [his] foundation, much of it to his friends
in the film business or tony cultural organizations ... Indeed, he
gave away just barely the minimum necessary to maintain the
foundation's charitable status."
"John Pierson, who distributed [Moore's 1989 film] Roger & Me, found
him impossible to deal with. Moore would upbraid him for how much he
was making on the film and tell him to share. Pierson could get him to
shut up only by pointing out that Moore made more money than anyone
and should perhaps part with some of his own money. Douglas Urbanski
used to manage Michael Moore. 'He is more money obsessed than any I
have known,' he says, 'and that's saying a lot.'" (emphasis mine)
"During a 2004 ceremony for [MoveOn.org], Moore's handlers insisted
that he have his own supply of imported water backstage. 'Poland
Spring wasn't good enough,' someone at the event told New York
magazine. 'They called up to make sure he would have enough Evian.'"
Finally, Moore said he doesn't want to call his hopes "socialized
medicine," but "Christianized medicine." Is it me, or ... if a
conservative ever touted "Christianized medicine," wouldn't many in
the MSM immediately hyperventilate with cries of a "theocracy" and
shrieks of "separation of church and state"? (It reminds me of how
Barack Obama openly campaigned from the pulpit in a Los Angeles church
(April 29, 2007). If there was even a peep of an objection anywhere in
the media, I didn't hear it. Now if a Republican had done this ...?)
.

User: "The_Sage"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 11:39:48 PM

Reply to article by: Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com>
Date written: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700
MsgID:<1187900835.239048.185670@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>
Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...

"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.
The Sage
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:54:49 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:39:48 -0700, The_Sage <The_Sage@everywhere.com>
wrote:

Reply to article by: Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com>
Date written: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700
MsgID:<1187900835.239048.185670@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.

Except that moral people don't join groups that require them to ignore
their morals and live by someone else's supposed morality.
.
User: "The_Sage"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 25 Aug 2007 03:13:56 PM

Reply to article by: Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Date written: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:54:49 -0400
MsgID:<ld6vc3hsfgph7osfoobnc2tmefbbslaopb@4ax.com>

Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...

"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.

Except that moral people don't join groups that require them to ignore
their morals and live by someone else's supposed morality.

Your point is?
The Sage
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"It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind
with the most important social, political, and adaptive
challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years.
Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of
ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children,
our species" (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
=============================================================
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 25 Aug 2007 07:12:52 PM
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:13:56 -0700, The_Sage <The_Sage@everywhere.com>
wrote:

Reply to article by: Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Date written: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:54:49 -0400
MsgID:<ld6vc3hsfgph7osfoobnc2tmefbbslaopb@4ax.com>


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.


Except that moral people don't join groups that require them to ignore
their morals and live by someone else's supposed morality.

Your point is?

I would expect less from amoral people.
.
User: "The_Sage"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 25 Aug 2007 08:39:27 PM

Reply to article by: Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Date written: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:12:52 -0400
MsgID:<ibh1d3hud0l8ipb12kjj4rqvroa6cmf6oq@4ax.com>

"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.

Except that moral people don't join groups that require them to ignore
their morals and live by someone else's supposed morality.

Your point is?

I would expect less from amoral people.

Is there such a thing? Please give some confirmable examples of such people.
The Sage
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"It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind
with the most important social, political, and adaptive
challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years.
Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of
ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children,
our species" (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
=============================================================
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 26 Aug 2007 07:37:48 PM
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:39:27 -0700, The_Sage <The_Sage@everywhere.com>
wrote:

Reply to article by: Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Date written: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:12:52 -0400
MsgID:<ibh1d3hud0l8ipb12kjj4rqvroa6cmf6oq@4ax.com>


"Christian" is just a label that implies nothing about the person with that
label, so it is no surprize that any Christian does anything immoral. I wouldn't
expect any more or less from them than I would anyone else because they don't do
anything more or less than anyone else.


Except that moral people don't join groups that require them to ignore
their morals and live by someone else's supposed morality.


Your point is?


I would expect less from amoral people.


Is there such a thing? Please give some confirmable examples of such people.

People without morals? Anyone who has to be told by a book what's
right and what's wrong.
.






User: "Baldin Lee Pramer"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 04:46:21 PM
On Aug 23, 2:27 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts
1. Back in high school, the rebellious Moore staged a play that openly
mocked Jesus' Crucifixion. Read about it on Moore's own web site:

Around that time I wrote and directed a play that included a scene
where Jesus yanks the nails out and comes down off the cross. Actors
playing locally-known bigots rose out of the audience to stab, shoot
and beat "Jesus" to death, drag him back up to the cross on the stage,
and re-crucify him. Typical drama from an ex-seminarian.

You can imagine not much of this went over very well with the local
business and Born Again establishment ...

You're a liar, SOT. That is not mocking the crucifixion.
BLP
.

User: "Davej"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 09:00:40 PM
On Aug 23, 3:27 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@mailcan.com>
wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts

Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...
[...]
1. Back in high school, the rebellious Moore staged a play that openly
mocked Jesus' Crucifixion. Read about it on Moore's own web site:

Around that time I wrote and directed a play that included a scene
where Jesus yanks the nails out and comes down off the cross. Actors
playing locally-known bigots rose out of the audience to stab, shoot
and beat "Jesus" to death, drag him back up to the cross on the stage,
and re-crucify him. Typical drama from an ex-seminarian.

Gee aren't you one of those Christians who like to pretend they are
eating Christ's flesh and drinking his blood? Aren't you one of those
Christians who believe Jesus died as he was supposed to die?
.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:03:06 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...

Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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User: "Nebuchadnezzar II"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:25:05 PM
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.

I find it quite funny that neither STrumpet, or other so-called
"Christians" like you have failed to question his point, which was
"Jesus told us that we would be
judged by how we treat the least among us." So obviously you must
either disagree or the best you can muster is an ad hominem attack. You
can't have it both ways.
Another thing I find quite funny is morons who question other people's
"Christianity" yet continue to vote for the party of war and taking from
the poor and giving to the rich.



--

A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.

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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 11:00:24 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.

Because he REGULARLY crossposts to Christian news groups, Dave - which
you knew when you accused an atheist of crossposting STrumpet's post.
.

User: "3722 Dead"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:27:51 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.

Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:46:36 PM
On Aug 23, 4:27 pm, 3722 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.

jesus was a ***** and christians are blood thirsty murderers
.

User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:49:43 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:27:51 GMT, 3722 Dead
<zeppp@finestplanet.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.

You aren't too bright, are you? In fact, you're flat out
an idiot. You see, I am an American Christian and I
don't hate any of those people. And only an idiot would
claim such a thing.
But hey, it's the atheists that need to teach us love
and tolerance, like what you showed just now, huh?
<chuckle>
Bye now!
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:31:19 AM
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:957sc3pl8cmqsg4kqk11echvic4or5lum6@4ax.com...

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:27:51 GMT, 3722 Dead
<zeppp@finestplanet.com> wrote:


On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.


You aren't too bright, are you? In fact, you're flat out
an idiot. You see, I am an American Christian and I
don't hate any of those people. And only an idiot would
claim such a thing.

But hey, it's the atheists that need to teach us love
and tolerance, like what you showed just now, huh?

<chuckle>

Bye now!


--

we dont tolerate fucks like you.we destroy them.
frank-your such a tool and a major fool.
you fucking christ stains want a war with us atheist's?
be carefull what you wish for little boy-ya just might get it....
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User: ""

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:51:48 PM
On Aug 23, 4:49 pm, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:27:51 GMT, 3722 Dead





<ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <no...@nowhere.com>
wrote:


On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.


You aren't too bright, are you? In fact, you're flat out
an idiot. You see, I am an American Christian and I
don't hate any of those people. And only an idiot would
claim such a thing.

But hey, it's the atheists that need to teach us love
and tolerance, like what you showed just now, huh?

<chuckle>

Bye now!

--

A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

a conservative religious freak is one who will be pro life, except
when it applies to an actual human being. See Wars and Prisoners.
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User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 09:15:11 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:51:48 -0700,

wrote:

a conservative religious freak is one who will be pro life,
except when it applies to an actual human being. See
Wars and Prisoners.

Aw, did I upset the poor little liberal???
And hey, did you give away your own stuff yet?
Or did you just tell Christians to?
And btw, you might want to ask me what I believe,
before condemning me for what you hope I believe,
because you hate God, Christ and Christians.
But gee, thanks for proving how much wiser you are
than all of us poor, dumb Christian slobs, huh?!
Hmmm... It seems to me that idiots like you instantly
condemn Christians for saying that anything is a sin
and yet, have no problem posting your diarrhea with
which you claim that Christians condemn you without
any cause. <chuckle>
--
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
.
User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:33:45 AM
"Pastor Dave" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:51:48 -0700,


wrote:


a conservative religious freak is one who will be pro life,
except when it applies to an actual human being. See
Wars and Prisoners.


Aw, did I upset the poor little liberal???

And hey, did you give away your own stuff yet?
Or did you just tell Christians to?

And btw, you might want to ask me what I believe,
before condemning me for what you hope I believe,
because you hate God, Christ and Christians.

But gee, thanks for proving how much wiser you are
than all of us poor, dumb Christian slobs, huh?!

Hmmm... It seems to me that idiots like you instantly
condemn Christians for saying that anything is a sin
and yet, have no problem posting your diarrhea with
which you claim that Christians condemn you without
any cause. <chuckle>


--

whats the matter dave?cant burn those whom you hate these days?
funny that mans laws trumps your stupid god laws.
good thing too-otherwise-you would be the one that was lit up.
chuckle.
.

User: "3722 Dead"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 12:40:55 AM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:15:11 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:51:48 -0700,


wrote:


a conservative religious freak is one who will be pro life,
except when it applies to an actual human being. See
Wars and Prisoners.


Aw, did I upset the poor little liberal???

And hey, did you give away your own stuff yet?
Or did you just tell Christians to?

And btw, you might want to ask me what I believe,
before condemning me for what you hope I believe,
because you hate God, Christ and Christians.

But gee, thanks for proving how much wiser you are
than all of us poor, dumb Christian slobs, huh?!

Hmmm... It seems to me that idiots like you instantly
condemn Christians for saying that anything is a sin
and yet, have no problem posting your diarrhea with
which you claim that Christians condemn you without
any cause. <chuckle>

Couldn't give a ***** what cosmic sky muffin you use to hang your
pathology on.
Why do you hate Michael Moore.
--
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President Bush in which he gave her a presidential coin and told her
and five other families: "Don't go sell it on eBay."
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User: "3722 Dead"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 08:39:25 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:49:43 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:27:51 GMT, 3722 Dead
<zeppp@finestplanet.com> wrote:


On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Yeah, American Christians hate the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
All the things Moore stands for.


You aren't too bright, are you? In fact, you're flat out
an idiot. You see, I am an American Christian and I
don't hate any of those people. And only an idiot would
claim such a thing.

But hey, it's the atheists that need to teach us love
and tolerance, like what you showed just now, huh?

Oh, hey, great job of loving there, bubbles. Jesus must be very
proud.


<chuckle>

Bye now!

--
One of the [Gold Star mothers], Elaine Johnson, recounted a meeting that she had with
President Bush in which he gave her a presidential coin and told her
and five other families: "Don't go sell it on eBay."
--from interview broadcast on NPR
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
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For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 07:40:06 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.

Oh my, so all 2 billion and change elected you pope now did they?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:50:55 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:40:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Oh my, so all 2 billion and change elected you poop now did they?

IFYPFY
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User: ""

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:56:12 PM
On Aug 24, 7:50 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:40:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"





<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:


On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Oh my, so all 2 billion and change elected you poop now did they?


IFYPFY- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

PASTOR DAVE MUST HAVE RAPED THOUSANDS OF KIDS IN HIS CHURCH OR LET
OTHERS GET AWAY WITH IT, BEFORE HE SENT THEM TO ANOTHER CHURCH TO DO
IT AGAIN, FUCKING HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 25 Aug 2007 09:56:12 AM
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:50:55 -0400, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:40:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Oh my, so all 2 billion and change elected you poop now did they?


IFYPFY

But they didn't have to *elect* him to be that, he just is...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Can you unmasterbate to someone?"
- Bill Maher
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User: "Patrick Henry"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:23:32 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.

Someone who believes there's a little old omnipotent man sitting up in
the clouds blessing some and smiting others calls someone else an idiot?
Unbelievable.
.
User: "Mikal119"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 06:25:21 PM
On Aug 23, 6:23 pm, Patrick Henry <phen...@revolution.now> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Someone who believes there's a little old omnipotent man sitting up in
the clouds blessing some and smiting others calls someone else an idiot?

Unbelievable.

Patrick, there is no old man sitting in the clouds.Unbelievable is
what you have become as well, it seems.
Have a nice day, and wise up while you still have time.
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User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 24 Aug 2007 09:28:29 AM
"Mikal119" <adravirgo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187911521.006857.291800@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 23, 6:23 pm, Patrick Henry <phen...@revolution.now> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@mailcan.com> wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


Why tell us? Christians already know he's an idiot.


Someone who believes there's a little old omnipotent man sitting up in
the clouds blessing some and smiting others calls someone else an idiot?

Unbelievable.


Patrick, there is no old man sitting in the clouds.Unbelievable is
what you have become as well, it seems.
Have a nice day, and wise up while you still have time.

your a fucking tool.
grow a brain-no such thing as a god.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 10:58:59 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:25:21 -0700, Mikal119 <adravirgo@gmail.com>
wrote:

Have a nice day, and wise up while you still have time.

Take your own advice - Pascal was joking.
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User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 10:42:48 PM
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1860995/posts


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...


NewsBusters ^ | 06.21.07 | Dave Pierre


Posted on 07/04/2007 5:05:11 PM PDT by Coleus


Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked the Crucifixion, Supports
Pro-Choice, And ...

Posted by Dave Pierre
On Tuesday's episode (6/19/07) of The View, Michael Moore advocated
socialized medicine by saying that "Jesus told us that we would be
judged by how we treat the least among us." (Video at Hot Air.) The
problem? For one, starting many years ago, Michael Moore has displayed
behavior that many followers of Jesus would find offensive. Moore also

Funny how there often seems to be a gap between what Jesus would find
offensive, and what *followers of Jesus* would find offensive.
Personally, I think JC and MM would get along famously.

reportedly has a dubious history in dealing with "the least" around
him in his own life.

1. Back in high school, the rebellious Moore staged a play that openly
mocked Jesus' Crucifixion. Read about it on Moore's own web site:

Around that time I wrote and directed a play that included a scene
where Jesus yanks the nails out and comes down off the cross. Actors
playing locally-known bigots rose out of the audience to stab, shoot
and beat "Jesus" to death, drag him back up to the cross on the stage,
and re-crucify him. Typical drama from an ex-seminarian.

You can imagine not much of this went over very well with the local
business and Born Again establishment ...

2. Moore has openly championed pro-choice candidates and the pro-
choice cause (link).

Here's a question for Moore: Is there anything more innocent,
defenseless, and vulnerable ("the least") than an unborn child in the
womb of its mother?

God sure doesn't seem to mind aborting anywhere from 50-80% of fertilized
oocytes. Did you ever consider the possibility that God just doesn't care
about them as much as you think HE should? I didn't think so.

Moore identifies himself as "Catholic," yet his pro-choice position is
not the least bit in communion with the Church, which teaches that
abortion is evil by its very nature (intrinsece malum). (Interesting
tidbit: The Didache (aka "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles"),
possibly the oldest known Christian document not in the Bible, says,
"[Y]ou shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born"
(2:2). The Didache has been dated as early as 50 A.D.)

Even more interesting tidbit: The bible says *nothing* against abortion.
It's almost as if God doesn't care. In fact, it's *exactly* as if God
doesn't care. I guess HE had to leave SOME work for the Pope to do, eh?

How is defending abortion in alignment with Jesus' teaching of caring
for "the least among us"? Michael?

Perhaps "the least among us" refers to people who have actually BEEN BORN?
Like, say, pregnant women who may or may not want to continue the
pregnancy?
--
MarkA
(This space accidentally filled in)
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User: "GW Chimpzillas Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia"

Title: Re: Michael Moore Espouses Jesus, Yet He Mocked The Crucifixion 23 Aug 2007 04:11:40 PM
Smell of Trumpet Poop wrote:

1. Back in high school, the rebellious Moore staged a play that openly
mocked Jesus' Crucifixion.

A rebellious high schooler! He should be sent to Gitmo and banned from being
shown in theaters of all of America's Christian cities and towns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yours in Christ,
GW
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
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