default wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:18:50 -0500, old man joe <not@home.com> wrote:
the fun never stops ! step aside Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote...
you've been replaced by even better entertainment !
as per usual, one must take it for granted that the universe formed
itself...
Not necessarily. The universe exists, perhaps it always did. Perhaps
it was "created." Perhaps even a god created it. I don't "know" and
you don't "know."
You expect me to take for granted that god exists? or failing to
have all the knowledge in the universe at my disposal, I must
therefore conclude that only one explanation makes sense - yours?
Science is all about finding explanations - the church held that the
earth was the center of the universe, and the sun rotated around it -
some of those infallible popes believed that.
The church also told humankind during The Great Plague when they asked
'why are we dying like flies', their response was' It is god punishing us
for our sins.
Five hundred or so years later it was science that discovered the
rat/flea/virus connection that caused the Plague.
Religion is forever adjusting the goal posts lagging always way behind the
solid march of scientific progress
that life came from elements never alive and to this day can not be
brought to life by any means in any lab anywhere...
The salient element to that statement is TO THIS DAY. It is only a
matter of time now. Scientists are now manipulating chemicals to
produce DNA from scratch, and are able to create life forms that have
no natural origin. The hard part is done.
and out of absolute sterility...
A bacteria got started. Your position that god didn't require
creation is more untenable.
from a Big Bang of a mass of matter some Atheist Catholic priest
dreamed up...
Atheist Catholic - would be mutually exclusive terms, get a grip old
man.
that despite the gravity of this mass it managed to explode...
Because of the gravity, not despite the gravity.
out into this perfectly ordered solar system of ours...
The solar system, this one or any one is hardly "perfectly ordered."
none of which can either be created or destroyed, they say...
None of which?
and along came the monkey of which Darwin... a fellow who married
his own niece after turning Atheist... desired to think himself the
off-spring... and finally, in modern times, all is made Atheistically
real by cartoons.
The monkey took a very long time to evolve - it didn't "come along."
Incestuous relationships abound in the bible.
You need to fine-tune your phrase generator - it's making less sense
than usual.
wow. to be an Atheist ya sure have to be smart to dream up all this
jazz and believe it... but ya can't believe in God 'cuz the Atheist
say's so.
You "believe" in god because someone told you to; I would need hard
scientific proof.
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