Religions > Bible > Our first parents had free will and quickly chose Satan, just like will worshipers today...
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"old man joe" |
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25 Dec 2006 03:28:45 PM |
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Our first parents had free will and quickly chose Satan, just like will worshipers today... |
they say that by their " free will " they choose Christ unto
salvation but free will quickly chooses the devil and rejects Christ
as evidenced in the Garden.
they say they're chosen because God " foresaw " their " free will "
decision for Christ but that idea is post-knowledge and not
foreknowledge. the Bible says the elect " are chosen according to
the foreknowledge of God the Father " ( 1 Pet. 1:1,2 )
post-knowledge is a doctrine of will worship that its preachers want
in order to place conditions on the gospel of grace.
filling conditions are intended to keep lost sinners out of the
kingdom of God. it is a way to control people. it is a way to
prevent people from entering into the kingdom of heaven by grace alone
apart from works.
it seeks to dispose of grace as God's way of saving lost sinners
because you can't have it both ways. you can't be saved by grace
because of good works actual or foreseen.
condition filling desires good works as a means to salvation...
whether it be ceremonies or beating it into the head of lost sinners
that they must do some good thing with their " free will " like choose
Christ with it.
but Adam and Eve had free will and they quickly chose Satan over
Christ. just as the will worships do today.
even worse, now man is in league with Satan wanting to do his
desires because he is of the same nature as Satan. ( Joh. 8:44; Eph.
2:2 ) this is where the exercise of " free will " has gotten mankind
because of our first parents.
so to say " I chose Christ of my own free will " is to lie.
to base a religion on this idea is an even bigger lie. but doing
the desires of Satan is what free will is all about, just as the Bible
so clearly teaches.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: Our first parents had free will and quickly chose Satan, just like will worshipers today... |
28 Dec 2006 05:00:05 PM |
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"old man joe" <not@home.com> wrote in message
news:0kg0p25ji5otgqu1fveba02eja0s0ivjo9@4ax.com...
they say that by their " free will " they choose Christ unto
salvation but free will quickly chooses the devil and rejects Christ
as evidenced in the Garden.
yup, you better not USE your FREE WILL for anything other than worshipping
the MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian sky pixie.
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| User: "Shapescare" |
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| Title: Re: Our first parents had free will and quickly chose Satan, just like will worshipers today... |
25 Dec 2006 04:10:33 PM |
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old man joe skrev:
they say that by their " free will " they choose Christ unto
salvation but free will quickly chooses the devil and rejects Christ
as evidenced in the Garden.
they say they're chosen because God " foresaw " their " free will "
decision for Christ but that idea is post-knowledge and not
foreknowledge. the Bible says the elect " are chosen according to
the foreknowledge of God the Father " ( 1 Pet. 1:1,2 )
post-knowledge is a doctrine of will worship that its preachers want
in order to place conditions on the gospel of grace.
filling conditions are intended to keep lost sinners out of the
kingdom of God. it is a way to control people. it is a way to
prevent people from entering into the kingdom of heaven by grace alone
apart from works.
it seeks to dispose of grace as God's way of saving lost sinners
because you can't have it both ways. you can't be saved by grace
because of good works actual or foreseen.
condition filling desires good works as a means to salvation...
whether it be ceremonies or beating it into the head of lost sinners
that they must do some good thing with their " free will " like choose
Christ with it.
but Adam and Eve had free will and they quickly chose Satan over
Christ. just as the will worships do today.
even worse, now man is in league with Satan wanting to do his
desires because he is of the same nature as Satan. ( Joh. 8:44; Eph.
2:2 ) this is where the exercise of " free will " has gotten mankind
because of our first parents.
so to say " I chose Christ of my own free will " is to lie.
to base a religion on this idea is an even bigger lie. but doing
the desires of Satan is what free will is all about, just as the Bible
so clearly teaches.
So why did God equip us with this "free will" that automatically leads
us into the arms of Satan?
And will we have "free will" in Heaven, too?
Fatter'n
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